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I’m losing the will to live
I'm sure binners could help out there
i think Perchy's gag "Fake Brews" counteracts the personal abuse imo. Thus no ban should be enforced.
If you ban PP you’d have to ban me for calling myself a nobhead too
Happy to take one for the team, Sergio Ramos style, for being a nobhead
strictly speaking, as it was a misleading newspaper article about a beverage production facility that itself wasn't what it was made out to be, it's fake fake brews news.
And if anyone does a deliberately ironic catcall at reading that, that would be fake fake fake brews news boos.
I'll get my coat, the one without iron crosses on the collars.
if we're banning people for being nobheads, it'll be a quiet week.
"if we’re banning people for being nobheads, it’ll be a quiet week."
if a bomb went off in here though, frankly we'd all be better off.
Are you advocating genicide?
And if anyone does a deliberately ironic catcall at reading that, that would be fake fake fake brews news boos.
If it was zero alcohol beer it would be fake fake fake fake brews news booze boos.
If that doesn't deserve a ban i'm gonna flounce.
If it was zero alcohol beer it would be fake fake fake fake brews news booze boos.
Or in NZ
fake fake fake fake brews news booze boos bro
If it was zero alcohol beer it would be fake fake fake fake brews news booze boos.
If it was being made by a man dressed up in a cartoon bear costume it would be....
fake fake fake fake fake boo-boos brews news booze boos.
what if that man was an Indian mystic?
What?..... Like a swami? 😉
denying that there is a problem with illegality from travellers is as bad as denying that there is a problem with British Asians grooming young girls...
denying that there is a problem with illegality from travellers is as bad as
Did any one do that TG?
Well, seeing as it was already in my clipboard...
Yeah man. We're doing our best here to derail this thread down a bizarre tangent.
Don't try and harsh our buzz.
Edit: Cougar showin' some mad chair skillz there ^^^^^^^
Sorry, missed a page. Has binners been to The Hague yet?
I think we should deal with the bad element of the mobile community by stealing all their wheels. How you gonna travel now?
denying that there is a problem with illegality from travellers is as bad as denying that there is a problem with [s]British Asians[/s] [b]people[b] grooming young girls…
That the Yaxley-Lennons of this world only live tweet or whatever from the trials of the brown-skinned ones doesn't mean that the white skinned grooming gangs don't exist too. They're just a bit inconvenient for certain people's bigoted narratives so they ignore them.
That the Yaxley-Lennons of this world only live tweet or whatever from the trials of the brown-skinned ones doesn’t mean that the white skinned grooming gangs don’t exist too. They’re just a bit inconvenient for certain people’s bigoted narratives so they ignore them.
spoken as someone who is part of the problem...
Fear of being accussed of racism has allowed situations like this to arise, and fear of critising travellers and treating them as untouchable is going the same way.
Yep, who is doing that here tg? People are pointing out accusing an entire group of being the same is a bad thing and just as unhelpful Do you decide what somebody is like just by looking at them?
The biggest crime I see is using nobhead. Tsk tsk. **** is the correct spelling as in cranium like the male genitalia. Nob refers to the aristocracy
It was obvious to me Binners was in jest pointing out the absurdity of the statements some had made
Nob refers to the aristocracy
Wot Binners is not.
Cougar - why not ask Mark what to do about this thread? That way, if it ever came to trial you could claim that you were just following orders.
All afternoon? Hardly, how shit is the back end that it would take that long to delete the offending post? Sure as hell didn't take any of you that long to ban me, think it was something in the region of fifteen seconds.
Equal treatment. Not a hard ask. Is that clear enough?
I seem to remember Hitler and his cronies did have a bit of a reputation for turning up on other people’s property uninvited and trashing the place....
Just sayin...
The biggest crime I see is using nobhead. Tsk tsk. **** is the correct spelling as in cranium like the male genitalia. Nob refers to the aristocracy
I believe the correct spelling is "enob" (bone backwards). "Knob" is a corruption of that.
Can we use the term cheeky tinkers rather than pikey? It sounds more loveable. Just been Googling other terms and it would appear the equivalent to Chav or Ned for the Irish is Knacker. So let’s call them Knackers!
There’s the Wigan option?
Dobbers.
hence Sports Direct being referred to as Dobber Clobber
You not banned yet?
Dobber means something very different where I live.
Far as I know it's a large marble.
Right.
I'm not reading all that.
I've tried a bit of page 4, so I get that someone's done something and the vultures are circling.
Could someone just give me the condensed version?
Ta.
Right.
I’m not reading all that.
I’ve tried a bit of page 4, so I get that someone’s done something and the vultures are circling.
Could someone just give me the condensed version?
Ta.
<span class="bbp-reply-post-date">Posted 2 minutes ago</span>
Travellers / Knackers did bad. Binners is Hitler. Some people got upset. Perchy made funny. Cougar is getting unnecessary stick as usual
Ah, thanks for that.
So........?
Right RS ..... A load of ...erm... charming Romany folk.... trashed a brewery because... well... because they were probably misunderstood, or something, and looking for their place in society, and it was, like, a howl of frustration.
I'm Hitler or Mussolini, or Goebbels, or all 3. Something or other. But definitely a nobhead. We're all agreed on that
Cougar is little better. Think of him as a French collaborator. We should shave his head.
And somewhere there's a laundrette doing 24/7 to cope with all the bedsheets that need washing. It's been emotional for the more sensitive amongst us
And all the people rushing to the defence of the .erm... charming Romany folk as simply misunderstood.... will all no doubt be getting in touch with them shortly offering them the chance to set up camp on their front lawns, so confident are they that its only a tiny minority of them who don't spend most of their time dedicated to charitable acts and helping kittens
I think that just about covers it
Anyway.... I've not got time for this. I'm off to invade Poland
^^reported for breaking the sarcasm filter
Lol @ Binners! 🤣🤣🤣
Binners is absolutely right.
He is a nobhead 😉
Could someone just give me the condensed version?
Binners went drinking with some Nazis, and got trashed by some Pikeys..... I think......
^^CATAPOSTROPHES^^
barrrrrrrrrrpppp''''''''''
Binners, is this about that lucky, hair restoring heather you bought from the fair last year?
And all these experts on racism queueing up to help and you've not taken them up?
Hmmm?
Just bloody ungrateful, some people.
Perchy, of course he's a nobhead. 🙂
I'm surprised anyone needed more evidence than he's already provided over the years. Bloody weirdos.
Cougar is little better. Think of him as a French collaborator. We should shave his head.
The Scarlet Pimple more like - you think you've pinned him down then there he is, gone. I'm genuinely not sure he actually exists..🙂
So not Drac's fault then? Not even a little bit?
A load of …erm… charming Romany folk…. trashed a brewery
Irish, seemingly.
Cougar is little better. Think of him as a French collaborator. We should shave his head.
Don't you [swear filter avoidance]ing dare.
*Reported for swear filter avoidance*
Maybe everyone should go on a team camp
Good idea Mike.
Baggsy not on cleaning up duty.
I'm not first in the shower though
in 100 years this group has gone from being valued members of the rural economy to ostracised outcasts. Why?
Quite probably, and this should be obvious to anyone with the ability to think, there were far, far fewer travelling people, maybe no more than two, possibly three families in each group, in horse-drawn caravans, who would stay for no more than a few days, maybe a week then move on, leaving little trace of their passing. They would almost certainly have been Roma, not Irish tinkers, although there ‘may’ have been some of those, most Irish over here would have been the Navigators building the canals and railways.
FFWD to today, and the travellers have access to money, huge caravans, big cars and vans to tow them, and the means to easily travel in large groups all over the country, pitching up anywhere that takes their fancy, because, they’re travellers, and they have an absolute right to do so, because to deny it is to deny them their rights.
The other issue is sites for them to pitch on; once upon a time travellers travelled, that’s what they did, with possibly somewhere to winter over, but otherwise staying in one place would be almost anathema, it’s what the Geyri, non-Gypsies, do. But now it seems that a permanent sites are almost a requirement, which is fine, nobody should have an issue with this. Except that whenever proper hardstanding sites with full facilities are provided, these new style travellers seem to consider such facilities as something to plunder and sell, and trash whatever can’t be sold, then expect it to be replaced without question. Swindon borough council built one such site which had a cycle route running alongside, and I rode past and checked it over after it had been trashed by one traveling group. It had, quite literally, been destroyed, all fittings in the toilets and showers had been ripped out and stolen, doors ripped out, walls smashed, and burned-out cars and other trash littered the whole area. What’s the saying about not shitting in your own nest?
It’s this behaviour which causes so much bitterness, coupled with a modern malais, a sense of entitlement that carries its own postcode, something that didn’t happen 100 years ago. It’s certainly true that there was, among settled folk, suspicions about Roma, and their welcome was always guarded and wary, probably with some good reason! But they’re a people with a genuine different ethnicity and a very long and proud history, which deserves to be respected.
Unlike the tinkers.
Caveat: none of the above is as a result of detailed research, it’s what I’ve gleaned from stuff I’ve read for years, seems to make some sort of sense, though.
and Count Zero the bigger question or way forward is how do you break that cycle? How do you give the kids growing up there a chance to change.
No Binners - you are a [size=20]k[/size]nobhead. Nowt to do with the nobility you. Plenty to do with male genitalia. tsk tsk
Countzero - the ones on my family farm were certainly tinkers - Irish travellers. Well known for their work as metalsmiths and so on.
TJ - talk to Irish natives about tinkers and you will find their views, based on personal experience, are diametrically opposed to yours.
I go with their view.
and Count Zero the bigger question or way forward is how do you break that cycle? How do you give the kids growing up there a chance to change.
Kidnap them and give them to middle class families to raise? Volunteers from the forum please step forward.
frank - the difference between 100 years ago and now. I suggest a little research would help you understand. there is no doubt at all that tinkers were mainly irish travellers and highly skilled metal workers and tinsmiths and welcomed in rural communities like my families farm because of the skills they brought. This is a historical fact.
Tinkers were the travelling tinsmiths mainly Irish travellers. Not all tinkers were irish travellers, not all irish travellers were tinkers.
Teej, you know that thing you weren't going to do when you came back?
I suggest a little research would help you understand.
This is a historical fact.
You're doing it again.
A few years ago I worked for a manufacturing company in Bradford. One day a small number of travellers appeared on our staff car park. Police were phoned, typical response - nohthing. So one of the production managers round up a dozen of the biggest hardest looking guys from the factory floor and went over to the car park to “have a word”
they were gone by closing time
I shall go and stand in a corner rusty. 🙁
in 100 years this group has gone from being valued members of the rural economy to ostracised outcasts. Why?
Hmmm, rose tinted glasses? Hansard debates 1923:
Sir T. BENNETT
asked the Home Secretary if his attention has been called to frequent complaints of the delinquencies of gangs of gypsies, especially in the south-eastern counties, involving loss to farmers, damages to allotments, and theft of the produce grown thereon; whether he is aware that branches of the National Farmers' Union in other parts of England have passed resolutions complaining of the nuisance; and whether, seeing that the police are unable to protect the public against the depredations of these people, he will consider the advisability of introducing legislation for the accomplishment of that purpose?
TJ - the tinkers that travelled the roads of Northern Scotland regularly right up to.the 1970s were as Scottish as me. There's an excellent book called The Summer Walkers that you should read. It gives a good insight into both the reality and the myths surrounding the tradesmen and artisans who sought out work on the road.
I note that in SSTW it's ok to be offensive as long as you can claim it's just a joke. I look forward to even-handed modding of this sort from now on. Meanwhile, a new logo for the magazine..
Maybe everyone should go on a team camp
I'm sure there's a joke to be had here - if I concentrate hard enough I'm sure I'll think of it.
I note that in SSTW it’s ok to be offensive as long as you can claim it’s just a joke.
Didn't you get banned for doing something similar? I'm sure the threads must be around somewhere...
Perhaps Binners could change his user name and pretend this never happened?
Ok with you?
I note that in SSTW it’s ok to be offensive as long as you can claim it’s just a joke.
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Doesn’t a lot of comedy do exactly that though. South Park springs to mind.</span>
Just when you think you’ve cracked this new forum it does things like this.
Meanwhile , the residents of Cromer are really looking forward to August.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-40990174
All hail the thought police! Must be lovely to have enough time on your hands to be able to spend it getting offended by words on the internet. I say we just censor the entire thing and enforce lobotomies for anybody who upsets anyone, ever.
People forget Hitler loved a good book burning.
All hail the thought police!
Did you manually type that, or cut and paste it from the Daily Mail comments section ?
Censorship!
Who has been banned then? Genuine question I’ve only skimmed the thread looking for the quips amongst the bickering!
Scotroutes - aye the summer walkers - I have read about them a bit. I know they were scottish. the last of them were the folk who played bagpipes and sold heather at the viewpoint just south of glencoe? I did say not all irish travellers were tinkers and not all tinkers were irish travellers. I was trying to keep it simple.
Didn’t you get banned for doing something similar
Thank you for helping to make my point.
I don't know about crimes against humanity scrotroutes, but your crimes against typography have offended me enormously
I recall the travellers that used to go round the houses where I was brought up*, looking for old clothes, the 'rag man' was an affable fella, who's swap your clothes for whatever he had to give, which was mainly new clothes pegs.
A million miles from the only travellers I experience now.
*and what about the Mormons? Anyone recall the young guys in suits that used to chap the doors, sent from the states? We used to play football with them, they were always super nice guys. I felt quite sorry for them, as most folks in a council house in saltcoats would've told them to get tae ****.
Who has been banned then?
Hora, beer, theprawn and Jimmy savile. Oh, and Jamba too.
*and what about the Mormons? Anyone recall the young guys in suits that used to chap the doors, sent from the states? We used to play football with them, they were always super nice guys. I felt quite sorry for them, as most folks in a council house in saltcoats would’ve told them to get tae ****.
When you get to an age you are sent off to do a mission, Tasmania is quite high on the list of easy ones, there are a lot of tough ones though I think they have moved from the door to door in a lot of places. Know quite a few through my previous work, the ones I met loved the travel and challenge of it all and if your SLC based they through a nice party at the airport when you get back.
binners- where did you find that video of the SSTW mods meeting?
SSTW mods meeting
The Thirsk Reich?
Didn’t you get banned for doing something similar
Thank you for helping to make my point.
Different though, as you kept making the same tasteless joke again and again didn't you?
What, half a dozen times?
I thought you'd be pleased that a more sensible approach had been taken this time.
OK - I'm confused. I don't I'm thinking of the same post at all.
The ones about Nigg.
There was a post. It was deleted. I got a temporary ban. Before it was deleted a few folk chipped in with an explanation. I wasn't to know the mods were so geographically challenged....
That reminds me though - it's June so the ferry should be running again.