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£10k, 1.6 petrol, 100,000 mile warranty and a seat folding system thats magical as a second /sometime family car mostly work motorway / bike car.....
So what's the catch apart from they look awful and are a Vauxhall?
Your kids will become fat, you'll end up getting some tribal tattoos and look Like a miserable sod knowing you have to drive it for the next few years.
You think 10k is cheap for a 1600 petrol engined people-carrier with 100k on clock?!
they look awful and are a Vauxhall?
If the looks and badge bother you you could try the Chevrolet Orlando instead. Its the same car but still in its crate. And the drivers seat is comfier.
[quote=patriotpro said]You think 10k is cheap for a 1600 petrol engined people-carrier with 100k on clock?!
Errrrr....
The new ones have a 100,000 mile warranty Patriatpro.....
Where are they 10k? I'd have a new one for that price.
And just in case he hasn't got it yet...
£10k, 1.6 petrol, 100,000 mile [b]warranty[/b]
Aye, that's worth a look. Even though it'll rattle and squeak to the point of insanity like every other Vauxhall I've experienced.
Where?
Where are they 10k? I'd have a new one for that price.
A few places, Bristol Street Motors is where I first saw them though.
Might go down and do a bit of time wasting at Arnold Clark later.
Yep ^. And some garages are calling it the Capital model. I'm thinking though, the 1.6 might get a bit annoYing on long motorway journeys. And it'll fall to pieces.
Kick some tyres 🙂
My wife bought one in March and to be honest it's been great.
For the money. I don't think you'll get a bigger brand new car.
The one complaint I would have would be that it revs quite high if on the motorway and could do with a 6th gear. Not a problem for us though as we don't have motorways on the Isle Of Man.
I wanted us to get a Berlingo to he honest as I think it's got more room in the back and is certainly wider. It's my wife's car however and she would rather walk than be seen In a Berlingo.
There are a lot of folk quick to criticise Vauxhall's, but I drove an Astra patrol car for a few years and it never missed a beat; not like some of the current Ford Focus which have needed visits to the workshop.
I love kicking tyres at Arnold Clark, that and fobbing them off with made up contact details.
This one should be amusing, as a primary concern would be whether I could sleep in the back.
You think 10k is cheap for a 1600 petrol engined people-carrier with 100k on clock?!
In your haste to be critical, you seem to have missed the whole point.
Congrats 😉
We was so close to buying a Transporter a few months ago, I should really get a stable income source. Or be more reckless.
Sigh
And it'll fall to pieces.
So do VW's.
I'd love to read the T&C's of the 100k warranty. For instance if in a service they include the 'critical free safety check'* items as essential to be fitted by them to get a service stamp (that ensures the warranty remains valid) I'd bawk.
*You're tyres/pads etc are 70% worn sir.
Plus knowing Arnold Clark -they'll probably pre-reg the car thats new to you and you'll only find out when you receive the V5 a few weeks later.
reviews look good: http://www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/used/vauxhall/zafira-mpv/full-review/25479-7
it's the 'old' model zafira so i would imagine thats why the prices are good.
Main concern would have to be interacting with a vauxhall dealer. They may just be particularly bad round here but they are terrible for customer service (IMO).
we have vauxhalls at work and to keep the warranty they must be serviced at or before the scheduled dates, and then the warranty must be validated by a vauxhall dealer.
can't say I love mine and the 1.6 is underpowered, BUT it has been reliable and is great for lugging stuff around build quality ain't great but for £10k you really can't go wrong!
The road fund licence at £170 might make me think, our Cee'd is only £30. But you'd be saving over £8k!
Cheers,
Jamie
The [s]road fund licence[/s] vehicle excise duty at £170 might make me think
corrected!
😉
doubt your ceed is going to last 57 years longer than a zafira....i also doubt youll keep either beyond the length of the warrenty.
They are quite thirsty cars.
Clutch, dual mass fly wheel,and gear box are not covered by warranty. and are made of cheese.
when did they start putting dual mass flywheels into 1.6 petrol cars.
must have missed the memo.
gear box is horrible - its so bad it actually dissuades you from changing gear - i think thats the only reason they last any length of time.
I think the 1.6 might struggle out of town, and I hope you don't have the same 150k miles of annoying roof rattle that I had from a Vauxhall. It's probably the perfect car for the school run, though.
Having driven several Zafiras it's an experience i'd never like to repeat. Not only is it a Vauxhall and therefore held together with spit and sticky tape, but it's actually the worst Vauxhall they do.
Let me put it into perspective for you. If cars are countries you would be buying the equivalent North Korea or maybe the Democratic Republic Of Congo.
We bought an ex lease diesel V70 estate with full dealer service history for less than that and it's a million times bigger and better than the Zafira. Don't do it... ever.
Surely the worst Vauxhall was the Frontera - consistently last in every customer satisfaction survey for over a decade!
im a frontera OWNER currently(not through choice)
i concur the zafira is worse.....
the fronteras actually quite good if you take it for what it is ... its not a land rover BUT its surprisingly capible in snow and seeing as mines the diesel thats largely an isuzu then that probably accounts for that .... how ever bad it is it beats our golf into a cocked hat - it squeeks alot less than the golf and it has alot more go about it since its not powered by a rubber band.
ALL the petrol ones were woeful in power , fuel , and headgasket failure.
Surely the worst Vauxhall was the Frontera - consistently last in every customer satisfaction survey for over a decade!
Fair point.
might be wrong on the fly wheel but the rest still stands.
I had a astra and had nothing but issues with it mechanicaly and electrical. my local garage runs a 1.6 astra petrol same engine and transmission as the zefira and the only reason he has it as he has so many issues and poor fule economy that he wont sell it to a valued customer.
I am fully converted to the never buying a VX Again, as i had mine replaced 3 times,and had the same issues with all 3
I've been in a Zafira taxi - it was all falling apart. You get what you pay for I guess and (cliche no2) if its too good to be true....
Yey, we have a winner 😀Imabigkidnow
Cheers,
Jamie
I've had a few company Vectra's, never had a problem at +35k pa.
And at £10k, you'll get nothing else near as that's basic hatch money.
Oops - I'd not had my first brew of the day. 😆
*Takes a bow to all the perfect people in the house*
And at £10k, you'll get nothing else near as that's basic hatch money.
Although what I havn't told you, is that I'd be trading practicality with my paid for '52 330i saloon. Seems though that I'd be swapping that impraticality for a short lived nightmare. Obviously the 330i is a nicer place to be, but the fuel / bills won't my much cheaper (mines capped at £260). I'm pretty sure from the above comments it'd be 10k badly spent.
10k for 100k of motoring/warranty?
Its hardly a shit car. Its just not as fancy a place to be as some VW dashboards.
My boss just bought one.
It has its faults, but for his 20 mile round trip to work each day (and requirement for a 7 seat bus) it is perfect.
It isn't great on fuel, it is a sea of slightly cheap looking plastic inside and it isn't the greatest drive, but 10k for a new 7 seat car with a 100k warranty is a great deal.
If it suits your needs - then why not?
ever driven a zafira.... the seat and the steering wheel and pedals dont even line up you end up sitting slumped to one side.
Another thing about the Zafira...
We once had someone collect a table and chairs from us. He limped out of his Zafira and, whilst balancing on one crutch, managed to flip the seats in order to make it fit. It really was that easy. Spectacularly easy.
Possibly not a game-changer but that seating system is very good.
At work we had few Zafiras for shuttling duties, they were rather allright. Much better than LDV vans we used to have, and still better place to be than in our current new Renault Megane Scenic. But those were diesel automatics racking 30k miles pa.
Zafiras aren't aggressive lookers but very practical for family use, I rate them higher than Megane Scenic.
ever driven a zafira.... the seat and the steering wheel and pedals dont even line up you end up sitting slumped to one side.
And my Sciatic cannot stand them after 20 mins...
£10k is a lot of money for a warranty. Because thats what seems to be the selling point - a 1.6 5 speed poverty spec Vauxhall Zafira certainly isn't.
sorry but a dealer offering £8341 off a car points to the imminent death of a brand...
Oh, and I forgot to add that its a model that was effectively replaced at least a year ago.
So you're paying £10k for a warranty and getting a free out of date, boggo spec, 1.6 petrol 5 speed Zafira.
I rate them higher than Megane Scenic.
I hope nobody takes this to mean the Zafira is a good car.
I've got an older 1.8 petrol.
Had it for 5 years and it's OK.
good for round town with the family.
Bikes inside aren't great. Front wheel needs to come off even with the seats forward, 'cos they slide forward and don't fold flat.
Longer journeys are a bit thirsty, but overall it's been very good to us.
sorry but a dealer offering £8341 off a car points to the imminent death of a brand...
Skoda UK offered boggo 1.6 petrol Octavias for 10k new about a year ago (a cancelled taxi deal?).
The Zafira is a run out model- they probably had loads unregged still parked up in storage allover.
No ones claiming they are amazing cars. The Touran aint exactly sparkling and the Altea was 'ok' to drive.
I'm test driving a Zafira tonight.
I would rather spend my £10k on second hand car of better spec, comfort, practicality and future value.
I'll see. I'm in two minds. I need a new car soon, its got to be reliable (or have a warranty), be practical and no hassle.
I don't even use A/C- if the windows mist up I open a window slightly....and my car has a/c fitted as standard.
really what we are seeing here is that small petrol engines in big heavy cars are unpopular.
thus manufacturers are getting lumbered with them.
hora: I'm test driving a Zafira tonight.
It'll be in the classifieds next week. 😉
Trail rat - they're doing the diesel for another couple of grand ( still surprisingly cheap) if petrol don't work for people. They are of course pre-reg not new. If you care.
After 3yrs I wonder how much they'll be worth? 5.5-7k?
Less
3-4k. - quick look at autotrader indicates that before the price drop they are selling for 6k with 40k on the clock at 3 years old - and thats a dealer price with free servicing and warrenty .....
Hello folks. I'm thinking of buying one of these £10k Zafiras next month, either the 1.6 petrol or the diesel (it's about £12k). If I buy a Zafira for £10k and then, after 3 years it's worth £5k (I think that's doubtful - probably more like £6k), then I've lost £5k (£1,667 per year). If I don't buy a Zafira then I could buy a rival model (Galaxy / Touran etc) for about £20k. After 3 years I will have lost a lot more than £5k - probably more like £8k-10k maybe. Am I right, or am I missing something obvious? Surely it's not about the percentage depreciation, but the cash depreciation? And if this car is basically a 1-year old model (pre-reg to 2013) isn't that still a good deal for £10k? The last two cars I've bought new (Daewoo Matiz & Hyundai Getz) were both run-out models and I wasn't aware that I was missing anything!
I don't need a fun car, just a car!
Any advice welcome.....
Buy to keep say 5yrs? I actually don't think they are bad cars. They aren't ugly, they aren't exciting but then again if you bought an Audi you'd suffer depreciation, or if you bought a used one and the turbo (and annual servicing?).
A new proven car for 10k? Show me any new car that isn't worth 50-60% retained value after 3yrs?
The fact that these bargain Zafiras are still knocking about 7 months after the thread was started tells you all you need to know IMHO.
I reckon that your valuation of a 3 year old 'bargain' Zafira is erring on the optimistic side as well.
To contradict all the usual STW experts who don't actually own one: I'm on my fourth Zafira and have had 1.6, 1.8 petrol and currently have a 1.7 TD.
They have all been great cars - hence why I get another every 3 years!
I have had no major mechanical issues on any of them. The best thing is they are like having a small van when it comes to biking but can switcheroo to carrying a load of people in seconds. I've looked at other similar mpvs but price and design have yet to match the Zafira on any I have seen.
I take it back. It seems 3 year old petrol Exclusivs are knocking about at main dealers for £7k so px price would be somewhere between 5 and 6k probably.
I just get my head around a 1.6 petrol 5 speed manual in a Zafira sized bus.
Not so long ago Skoda UK was knocking out 1.6 Octy's for <10k
Dacia Logan ?
A friend of mine bought one of these 1.6 petrol runout Zafiras, not to replace his 53 plate petrol Zafira, which is still going strong after 100,000 miles but his wife's Mitsibishi Colt that was falling apart after 4 years. If you need a simple, affordable 7 seater for kiddy ferrying around town, want to avoid 2nd hand risks and don't mind a basic spec car with a less than sexy badge, these really are a no-brainer.
I just get my head around a 1.6 petrol 5 speed manual in a Zafira sized bus.
I've a 1.6 petrol c-max, so a similar size/power. It only ever feels underpowered when completely laden and trying to go up some of the trickier roads in the yorkshire moors. It'll happily sit at speeds sufficient to lose your licence on the motorway and acceleration's never been a problem unless you really have to reach the back of the next traffic jam first.
Worth buying to take the back seats out and use as a day/weekend car with the bikes.
After 3 years it will be worth about £2.5k according to this - [url= http://www.lovemoney.com/news/cars-computers-and-sport/cars/15479/car-depreciation-ten-hold-value?source=1009001 ]http://www.lovemoney.com/news/cars-computers-and-sport/cars/15479/car-depreciation-ten-hold-value?source=1009001[/url]
Which is bollocks.
Show me average mileage 1.6 Zafiras that are for sale at 2.5k/3yrs old.
Again national search 5yrs/60k:
Of course they are trade sellers on there but still. Where can you buy a Zafira for peanuts?
I'm also interested in a cheap Zafira for lugging family, bikes and house stuff about in. My current car is an Astra, and having only owned Golfs previous to this I have no concerns over Vauxhall build quality. Nothing has gone wrong in 6yrs.
Sure, it isn't exciting or sexy, but a new car, with a lifetime warranty for sub £10k seems like a good deal... Unless I'm missing something. Plus we do 8k miles pa so petrol is fine with me.
Can what little street cred I have left survIve Zafira ownership though... That is the main question.
Buy a black one?
Hmmmmm have been eyeing up used zafiras atoning the 6k mark as we need to expand on the focus 5 hr drive back from the in-laws with 2 kids and a load of presents was enough to convince me
They may not be pretty but look a shit load better than a berlingo or a multipla !
Which is bollocks.
Possibly! The 1.6 Zafira seems to depreciate steeply. But if you scroll down the link the 1.8 Zafira appears in the least depreciating cars list.
The current values seen on Autotrader aren't discounted end of line models bought 3 years ago. Maybe a £10k end of line Zafira would be around £3k after 3 years? In-laws bought a 'new' Renault Scenic just before the latest model came out, after 3 years it wasn't worth a lot at all, hence we have it!
Ah thats the thing CAP/buyers dont say hang on three years ago that was on special offer! Berlingos were knocked out on citroen offers but CAP etc goes on RRP for %??
Weve looked at them purely for load capacity,and doing a house renovation,so builders van and bike n teenage taxi .
Here in Eire plenty of 1.6 about as resonable road tax n cheap ,pick up a 2002 for under 1000.euro.
Weve looked at them purely for load capacity,and doing a house renovation,so builders van and bike n teenage taxi .
Here in Eire plenty of 1.6 about as resonable road tax n cheap ,pick up a 2002 for under 1000.euro.
Had the 1.6 Active for 4yrs.
Nothing ever went wrong, huge lifespan on tyres, massive inside.
BUT 1.6 engine struggles at motorway speeds needing a sixth gear.
Bench seat doesn't come out so can compromise load space.
That's about it though!
They are awful things to drive- gutless, mushy brakes, mushy steering, mushy gearchange etc, etc.
BUT, they are practical and pretty reliable. We get very few problems with the petrol ones, unlike the diesels which have all kinds of issues.