From memory she blocked everyone apart from Vardy, and a (fake I think) story that she posted got out anyway
Yep, I meant presumably she documented that somehow (or Insta have backed her up).
Yep, I meant presumably she documented that somehow (or Insta have backed her up).
Even if they can prove that (which I don't think has been confirmed), Vardy has already said that her PR person had access to her account so it could have been her that leaked the stories... It's a tricky one.
Vardy has already said that her PR person had access to her account so it could have been her that leaked the stories
Look at my previous post about how Rooney worded her bombshell to cover that.
That got some nods of admiration from journos at the time, and I wonder whether a lawyer had helped her with it.
Well, as a lawyer has apparenlty said:
"What a wonderful case: absolutely nothing at stake and enough fees to retire on!"
Good for them (the lawyers), i can only envy the potential income they'll get from this, and hope they put it too good use recirculating it round the economy.
Wonder if there's any argument about if RV allowed her agent to have access to her account then she is still responsible for it usage in that respect anyway?
they can’t prove it beyond reasonable doubt without evidence.
Civil cases are on the balance of probability so I assume that applies here.
Qui facit per alium facit per se
I reckon.
Regardless of the result Rooney will come out of it far better than Vardy. If that matters.
FWIW Rooney does seem a bit smarter than the average WAG.
FWIW Rooney does seem a bit smarter than the average WAG.
Which is quite ironic or a very low bar.
FWIW Rooney does seem a bit smarter than the average WAG.
Football players are not typically very intelligent so why would their wives be (on presumption that people generally marry other people with similar levels of intelligence)
FWIW Rooney does seem a bit smarter than the average WAG.
Colleen Rooney left school in Croxteth with 10 GCSEs (that's more than most people I guess).
Article by Marina Hyde - who's normally busy ripping into Boris Johson:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/13/phone-north-sea-rebekah-vardy-coleen-rooney-libel-case
" <Rooney> has always prized loyalty above almost anything else. And, as you might expect from a proud Liverpool girl, she is not particularly crazy about the Sun. "
That article is worth it for the opening line:
There are battles. There are libel battles. And then there is … Wagnarok.
Writers are having fun with this
Being honest I don’t see what Colleen has to lose. Win or lose she has in my opinion come across as fairly decent and normal. Somebody in her “close circle” was selling private stories about her. She discovered who fairly cleverly and called them out. This case has shown that the leak (and others) were made by Vardy or someone who Vardy was working with to sell leaks.
Vardy has come across as an absolute horrible human being.
Being honest I don’t see what Colleen has to lose.
There is a pretty decent chance she will lose the case and will have to pick up both sides costs and pay damages.
If she does (and I hope she doesn't) then hopefully she's a deal in place with some magazine/paper to pay for it.
Irony not withstanding!!
W00dster +1 anyway.
Moral Victor though I think.
There is a pretty decent chance she will lose the case and will have to pick up both sides costs and pay damages.
With that being £3MM+ then quite a bit to lose. Or quite a bit for most of us anyway.
The bit that I can’t get my head around, as a normal person. Vardy had/has more than enough money, Jamie is not on minimum wage in a factory. So WTF did her getting a few grubby quid matter so much? The stories didn’t ‘raise vardy’s profile” at the time, so what was in it for her?
It’s like me leaking non-important stuff from work for the equivalent of £1, it’s completely pointless.
She must have better things to do with her time surely? I know I would if I had millions.
^^^
Same reason John Terry hawked stadium visits undercutting his own club.
Guttersnipes made 'good'.
The idea that any of the vacuous narcissists involved thinks they have a reputation that could be damaged by the leak of some rumours, true or false, is....well I just couldn't give a sausage. Perhaps Peter Andre could.
Wagnarok FTW!
Guttersnipes made ‘good’.
Of course, only working class women who have come into wealth are capable of such behaviour.
Even If Vardy wins, She will not be able to 'clear her name' unless she can prove Watt acted without her consent. Does anyone know if she has any experience as a North sea diver?
Of course, only working class women who have come into wealth are capable of such behaviour.
Hence the reason I mentioned John Terry.
Let's face it, if Jamie Vardy wasn't minted, she wouldn't be with him.
It’s like me leaking non-important stuff from work for the equivalent of £1, it’s completely pointless.
She must have better things to do with her time surely? I know I would if I had millions.
Just like Sam Allardyce doing dodgy deals when being the part time England Manager on only £1million a year?
Just like Sam Allardyce doing dodgy deals when being the part time England Manager on only £1million a year?
But why. That’s the bit I can’t understand. I’ve never been worth millions, and am unlikely to be. However, I very much doubt that if I was I’d do this shit. I’ve not done it so far so why do it now.
Mr Oldschool, I see you’re worth xxx million. Can you tell me what Dave did last Saturday night???
**** knows, I was busy with my own life.
The thing is I don’t think they have better things to do with their time- I think they spend most of the time bored out of their skins, when you have everything, nothing has value…
But why.
Money-grubbing habits that can't be kicked. It really is that simple.
But why. That’s the bit I can’t understand. I’ve never been worth millions, and am unlikely to be.
Yes, as said above by gardentiger, they are just money grabbing, and a million isnt enough, they want £10m. When they have £10m, They want £100m.
I've done some work for a really well off guy recently. Amongst the other things he has tried to sell was an old radiator. I asked if he wanted it put in the skip, he said he'd keep it and try to sell it. At most it was worth £10, but was just scrap really. I just CBA selling junk for a possible £10, whereas he was well off and tried to sell it.
It's just "friend" circle bitchiness but by people with too much time and money. Where it's not played out in the pub but on the front pages. And part of their self worth is how many times they appear in the glossies.
It's quite sad that they will think this is normal. But a magazine will pay big money for an exclusive and that will perpetuate the myth of personality.
"I just CBA selling junk for a possible £10, whereas he was well off and tried to sell it."
There may be a lesson there...
Yeah, if you're rich then there's a very good chance it's because you really really really LOVE money. It's not like we all stop riding and acquiring bikes once we've reached some arbitrary upper limit of miles ridden/bikes acquired 😁
We use the ice cream analogy in our family. The one successful/wealthy uncle always bought the shittest ice cream. Or to put it another way, part of the reason he was wealthy was that he didn't spend £££ on ice cream 🙄
Just wonder if the magazines have some sort of interest in a big silly court battle, could Vardy and Rooney almost be 'sponsored' to drag this out and make it all as tawdry as possible? (I notice they managed to drag magazine/housewives favourite Peter Andre into it as well!)
It was bad news reporting by the BBC, when a piece about Deborah James (now a Dame), known as bowel babe, who has raised more than £5,000,000 for her charity, was followed by a piece about that utter tosh court case. Petty bitching and a waste of money, time and energy imo.
Dame Deborah is now fighting to stay alive and those two idiots make me ashamed to be a woman.
We use the ice cream analogy in our family. The one successful/wealthy uncle always bought the shittest ice cream. Or to put it another way, part of the reason he was wealthy was that he didn’t spend £££ on ice cream 🙄
Proof money can't buy you happiness
Final day.
Vardy has walked out of court whilst being torn apart by Rooneys barrister in his closing statement.
And she's seen fit to have an 'angry' conversation with a Sun reporter outside the court about a story that's just been published about the Vardy's moving abroad!
Epic amounts of irony right there!
What I don't understand is why it matters whether it was Vardy or Vardy's PA/publicist/whatever that did the dirty deed using Vardy's account details and password. Surely if she sets up an account there is an acceptance that she owns everything and anything done by people to whom she has granted access...
I can just imagine the look on my boss's face if the bank was ****ed over using my login details and I turned to her and said " it wasn't me, it was the person i shared my login with"
< apologies in advance if I haven't been following closely enough>
@generalist your take on it seems to be as good as anyone else's!
The issue with The Sun this morning is interesting - a not very subtle reminder that of you play with fire, it can burn you?
Surely if she sets up an account there is an acceptance that she owns everything and anything done by people to whom she has granted access…
This should be obvious - a small cycling brand had a new media person in charge of their social media accounts during lockdown and they put up a pretty insensitive "yay it's Freedom Day" post and got absolutely roasted for it, but the owners took responsibility for their employees mistake.
anyone fancy playing Judge Judy and hazard a guess on the verdict?
What I don’t understand is why it matters whether it was Vardy or Vardy’s PA/publicist/whatever that did the dirty deed using Vardy’s account details and password. Surely if she sets up an account there is an acceptance that she owns everything and anything done by people to whom she has granted access…
I don't think she does own all actions taken on the account, however, Rooney said "it was her account" not "it was her" - isn't the fact it was vardy's account
a) demonstraitably true
b) not slanderous even if it wasn't true (as it doesn't infer a person has done anything)
I think Vardy has shown herself to be a lying waste of space and should lose everything - but I've no idea about whether Team Rooney have done enough to satisfy the legal side of it.
I certainly hope so.
anyone fancy playing Judge Judy and hazard a guess on the verdict?
Is the judge allowed to knock their heads together and tell them to buck up?
Hang on, is this the one where one of them allegedly crapped on a bed? I get very confused.
Hang on, is this the one where one of them allegedly crapped on a bed? I get very confused.
No, that's the other semi final. The winner of that one will meet the winner of this one in the final. It's in the car park outside Aldi on Church Road at 2am on Sunday
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I don’t think she does own all actions taken on the account, however, Rooney said “it was her account” not “it was her” – isn’t the fact it was vardy’s account
a) demonstraitably true
b) not slanderous even if it wasn’t true (as it doesn’t infer a person has done anything)
That makes sense to me, but I read that an earlier ruling was that “Vardy’s account” means “Vardy”. I am not a lawyer - thank god.
My non-learned opinion is that La Rooney has come out of this looking a lot better than Ms Vardy. Not that that is a very high bar.
The case has now ended and the judge will reserve her ruling to a later date.
Awww.... I want to know now!!
😤
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All the money wasted on this is a disgrace. The millions could have been used to fund food banks (or maybe for rehab therapies for daft people with crap cosmetic surgery like the two idiots who fell out)
As long as (UK) tax is paid on it and it's recirculated into the economy I'm quite happy for daft rich people to be relieved of their wealth.
Is anyone that interested or really care?
4 pages worth so far 😉
Is anyone that interested or really care?
I have absolutely LOVED this story. I don't watch football, I don't follow celebrities, I don't watch reality TV and until last week I wouldn't have recognised either of them if they walked passed me in the street.
In the current time of totally depressing news, countries being invaded, people not being able to afford heating, a corrupt moral vacuum of government, Wagatha trial has been a welcome tonic. It is totally pointless, generally harmless and there has been a morbid fascination with watching Vardy just implode her own case. There has also been some wonderful Twitter commentary from the journalists covering it, all of whom seem to be treating it as a bit of a break from reporting serious stuff. I am genuinely sad it is almost over.
I've ignored this thread until now assumed it was entirely football related. Had to google what it was about. Learnt* about their different hair styles at high court. Got bored.
*using the word learnt in the sense where absolutely nothing was learnt whatsoever.
@franksinatra sums it up for me too. I have no real interest, but what a distraction. Those terms and conditions are somewhat damaging.
Who won?
Is it over yet?
Yes hopefully. It exposes how the lumpen proletariat likes to spend our money.
Who won?
What do they win if they do win?
Who wins? Some high end restaurants, probably a car dealership, estate agents, possibly a cleaner or two who has to tidy up afterwards.
As already suggested, I think they play the winner of Heard v Depp in the final....
Not a lawyer, but as a former news (and showbiz) journo - one thing that stuck with me was the test of libel being that the offending statement must lower the claimant "in the estimation of right-thinking members of society".
So to take a current example, I'd have a good defence if I called Elon Musk a hypocritical bully with a massive ego - because that's a commonly held opinion based on established evidence.
I'm not bold enough to predict the outcome, but I'd put my money on Rooney if I had to.
Any idea when the verdict is going to be announced in this case? I miss it and am looking forward to Season 2.
Holy thread resurrection!
In a failure to answer the question - no idea.
I miss it and am looking forward to Season 2.
Box set should be available soon:
Looks like the Judge is a STWer and has read this thread. After yesterdays complaint about lack of verdict, it has been announced that verdict will be published at 12pm tomorrow. Bit disappointing they won't give verdict in court for additional drama, just a clinical publication online.
Vardy's claim has just been dismissed.
Discuss... 🙂
Incredible.
Money well spent then!....
The Court found that it was necessary to treat the Claimant’s evidence with very
considerable caution, determining that significant parts of her evidence were not
credible. There were many occasions when the Claimant’s evidence was manifestly
inconsistent with the contemporaneous documentary evidence, evasive or implausible
The Court determined that the loss of both the Claimant’s and Ms Watt’s copies of their original WhatsApp conversation was deliberate rather than accidental
Court confirming that Vardy basically imploded her own case.
Rooney vs Depp in the final, Vardy vs Heard in the play-offs, then.
Money well spent then!….
All three million of it, apparently
Horrible spoiled people behaving in a horrible way
The lawyers must be laughing all the way to the bank.
Excellent outcome.
I was somewhat annoyed that the BBC decided that this was their main story for today's 1 O'clock News, trumping the murder of a 9 year old girl, a counter-offensive in Ukraine and a number of other, clearly much more important, stories.
Was there anything in the judgement about the behaviour/culpability of The Sun? I don't suppose I should be surprised by the British tabloid press.
the legal profession milking the stupid, should the court of appeal protect Vardy from herself and refuse an appeal?
Court confirming that Vardy basically imploded her own case.
And more impressively "Box" doesn't seem to get it.
Is she really that thick - or narcissistic?
L
Horrible spoiled people behaving in a horrible way
Vardy yes. But what has Rooney done that is horrible in this case?
Taking herself so seriously that she needs to go to court rather than just let it go
ElShalimo
Free MemberTaking herself so seriously that she needs to go to court rather than just let it go
She offered 4 opportunities to settle out of court. The judge made that pretty clear too, it was Vardy that dragged it through court
Rooney vs Depp in the final, Vardy vs Heard in the play-offs, then.
Ha ha. Excellent.
She offered 4 opportunities to settle out of court. The judge made that pretty clear too, it was Vardy that dragged it through court
This 100%. You can't let people push you around. I admire her for having the balls to see this all the way.
