I hate myself for reading the coverage but it's fascinating how Vardy seems to have pursued a case in which she is looking like the defendant (and appears to be massively incriminating herself?). Bizarre. Is this simply over inflated egos and opportunistic lawyers at work?
I'd say it's a first world problem for the very elite but I'm not interested. I still answered the thread though, stupid me.
I'm more interested in how Wayne Rooney appears to be Wayne Rooney inside Wayne Rooney.
They both should be given a million hours litter picking community service, and the lawyers while we are at it...
I gather from overhearing it on the news that the judge has told them to stop wasting money and sort it out between themselves. Does seem to be a storm in a D cup
Absolutely hilarious but also absolutely petty and being played out in court due to being very rich...
Everyone involved can get in the sea.
At a time when working people can't afford to feed their families it's just offensive.
It's utter crap but strangely interesting!
Vardy currently looking well dodgy.
Admitting to sending 'gossip' to her agent, requesting payment for said gossip and then 'losing' her phone in the North Sea a few days after a court said it was to be turned over to the defendants lawyers (not just dropped it in the loo.... lost it in the North Sea FFS!!)
What's the actual crime in this case?
Cynical perhaps, but I thought the whole thing seemed a bit publicity stunt.
Bizarre. Is this simply over inflated egos and opportunistic lawyers at work?
Yes. Well, mostly, we can't deny there's a lot of money to be made by being a 'WAG' and you can't sell so many diet and exercise DVDs if the public don't like you so much, but it taking the piss really.
Neither of them would give the General Public a moments notice, if it weren't for who they were married to. I don't think either of them are particularly nice people and only add to the social problems we have in the UK due to the misuse of Social Media.
We have a court system in tatters, people on remand for months, years even waiting for a court date and it's only getting worse, whilst these pair of vacuous tarts get to use the High Court to have the WAG equivalent of a hairpulling match outside a flat-roof pub.
I'd turn a hose on the pair of them an tell them to sulk back to their gastly marble palaces until they learn to grow up a bit.
Vardy thinks she's been libeled by Ms Rooney (who was probably right all along)
They both should be given a million hours litter picking community service, and the lawyers while we are at it…
Posted 4 minutes ago
Stop lawyer bashing! If the stupid rich c''''ts want to pay lawyers then let em it's not the lawyers fault
(A lawyer)
What’s the actual crime in this case?
There is no crime but she is being sued for libel.
It did give us the Wagatha Christie headline so I'm OK with it.
Utter waste of time and money in reality of course.
What’s the actual crime in this case?
Cynical perhaps, but I thought the whole thing seemed a bit publicity stunt.
Lible, which is a civil offence, rather than a crime. Vardy allegedly gossiped 'private' information that Rooney posted on her private (aka not Public facing) Instagram account to her Agent, who in turn leaked it to the Sun. Rooney managed to work it who it was and said unplesant things about her online. It's pure teenager stuff, but they've got money and influence so real criminal proceedings will have to wait.
It's a job for Judge Judy or Jeremy Kyle really.
What’s the actual crime in this case?
Oxygen theft...
Apparently they're up to over a million quid in legal fees already EACH! 😳
Imagine if they'd donated that 2 million to food banks, or Ukrainian refugees or anything that wasn't so spirit-crushingly pointless
On the news footage last night, the look on Shreks face said "Seriously... FFS?!!" I see Jamie Vardy was nowhere to be seen. I'd love to hear his thoughts on it when his missus wasn't around too 😂
I read that, realistically, the most compensation either could claim if they 'won' (a dubious term, given the circumstances) was around £80,000. Obviously that wouldn't come close to covering their own legal fees, let alone the other's. So it's not a direct money-making scam, even for the winner.
So it's either: A) a serious grudge match between two idiots with more money than sense or B) a way of boosting their collective visibility via a media circus, that they can somehow subsequently monetise. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity... I imagine "Cards on the Table: The REAL Story of Colleen Rooney's Suffering at the Hands of Rebecca Vardy" has already been written. I'm not sure whether it's for Hello! mag or perhaps as a paperback to be released just in time for chrimbo. And we'll lap it up.
I have a question for legal people here, with such a backlog in the legal system for actual crimes how does this get to the high court?
I'm not totally giving the Lawyers a free pass on this one. They have a choice whether to take this sort of case or not. They generally choose to take the money, they could say no 🤷♂️
I have a question for legal people here, with such a backlog in the legal system for actual crimes how does this get to the high court?
I'm not a legal expert but I'd say that in this country you get the 'justice' you can afford
I have a question for legal people here, with such a backlog in the legal system for actual crimes how does this get to the high court?
It's a civil case so totally different system.
It’s a libel case, London sees hundreds of them so not really wasting time, reality is they’re both just as bad, I’d probably say that mrs Rooney is slightly worse as she saw herself as the lead wag and loved that whole show.
Feel sorry for jamie vardy though, he always seems decent, I believe they’ll be off to the states soon though, so someone else’s problem!
I reckon this one will end up as nominal damages, each side standing their own fees.
But yes, I am struggling to give a **** about their petty little world. Despite posting on here about it.
If this story has made you feel cheap and tawdry so far, wait until you read this...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/peter-andre-rebekah-vardys-chipolata-26931483
The complete breakdown of the justice system is not down to these two ladies, though I can see the Justice Minister trying to spin that line - The Secret Barrister's book is a little nearer the truth.
@cha****ng an informative article certainly.
If this story has made you feel cheap and tawdry so far, wait until you read this…
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/peter-andre-rebekah-vardys-chipolata-26931483
/blockquote>Yes I'm sure that Mr Andre is delighted that the story is not just known to Sun readers. I read about the poor little sausage in the Guardian today.
Gives a whole new meaning to '...poor little sausage'
I’m not totally giving the Lawyers a free pass on this one. They have a choice whether to take this sort of case or not. They generally choose to take the money, they could say no 🤷♂️
Not really, if you advertise yourself as a libel lawyer and someone comes to you with a meritorious case and is prepared to pay your fees then you can't unreasonably refuse to act
I really enjoyed the Mash's take on this...
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/wayne-rooneys-courtroom-diary-20220511220870
Is anyone that interested or really care?
More important things going on to be concerned about!!
Light relief in all honesty.
And the fact I can be amused by the antics of two 'pseudo-celebs' AND still be concerned about tories trashing my country AND by a Russian invasion of Ukraine AND the ongoing fallout of Brexit I have to deal with every single day in my job.
The good thing is that you can keep up to date on this one and the Johnny Depp case at the same time due to the time difference 😁
Could they combine it with the Depp/Heard thing? Get Judge Judy and Trisha in?
No Jeremy Kyle it....true entertainment then.
We could then hear the unfabricated fabricated truth....er I think!
Does show how shallow some people are...a public social media account and a private one. The private one appears to be a collection of posts about stuff people don't really want know - how have we as a society become so needy of other people's attention and likes?
I don't get it, but then I rarely share stuff with my family so perhaps I'm the one who is broken.
Feel sorry for jamie vardy though, he always seems decent
Almost went over my head that one 👏
Since I'm right in with the social meejas, I'm saying #WAGF
Need their heads banging together, the pair of them.
I’m not totally giving the Lawyers a free pass on this one. They have a choice whether to take this sort of case or not. They generally choose to take the money, they could say no
Why would they? A business that turns down this sort of business won't be in business as a business for long.
Why would they? A business that turns down this sort of business won’t be in business as a business for long.
Fair enough, but let's not hear anymore talk about clogging up the justice system and those more deserving not getting their time in court. Let the girls spend their money, makes no difference to me.
Haven't a clue what it's all about and have no intention of finding out.
Haven’t a clue what it’s all about and have no intention of finding out.
Put it this way. It has me actually coming down on the side of Coleen Rooney. That is ****ed up enough to know that I need to avoid any coverage as best I can.
Self-obsessed twunts.
Fair enough, but let’s not hear anymore talk about clogging up the justice system and those more deserving not getting their time in court.
Are the criminal bar involved, the cps, the crown and magistrates courts, police? Any of the criminal justice system that is currently falling apart? Did you read any proceeeding posts? The answer seems to be no to all of these questions
Vardy had been reduced to tears twice by the defence council..... I bet she wasn't planning on it being like this!
It's an absolute car crash for her! Scumbags the lot of them.
I see the judge had to suspend proceedings a number of times due to Mrs Vardy breaking out into crocodile tears.
Mrs vardy appears to be particularly loathsome.
I'm sure the two protagonists see this as an opportunity; tabloids and sleb mags will be lapping this up.
Two different versions of...How she ruined my life.
Two publicity obsessed, money grabbing, talent free, vacuous airheads.
Vomit inducing.
Mrs vardy appears to be particularly loathsome.
She is. An utter oxygen thief.
Vardy is an absolute car crash in court. She pursued the case and she is imploding under questioning. She really is embarrassing herself.
It did give us the Wagatha Christie headline so I’m OK with it.
The Scousetrap?
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Magnificent stuff. As an advocate chum says: ‘What a wonderful case. Nothing, but nothing, is at stake and the fees will be enough to retire on’.
I have/had no real interest in this - came to this thread for a condensed version, as I've been seeing some headlines. Seems to be a victimless crime really - two toxic individuals escalating a twitter spat to a court, spending their own money to do so. Meh.
It did give us the Wagatha Christie headline so I’m OK with it.
Same, but for the following quote:
"It wasn't even worth the train fare. The smallest trouser equipment I've ever seen"
It did give us the Wagatha Christie headline so I’m OK with it.
I've also heard it referred to as Scousetrap as well which, if I'm honest, deserves a round of applause
I fear Mrs Vardy is exposing herself for what she is.
Genuinely feel sorry for her husband. I'm sure opposition fans will lend him their vocal support in the next few matches.
As much as it is hilarious finding out about this school playground spat, it is an absolute waste of time, but it just shows how sad a society we have become - when something like this is so prominent in the news (admittedly no doubt being encouraged to get important stuff off the headlines) and our society is largely lapping this up.
Shows how disjointed we have become - people with the ability to kick a ball around with a lot of skill and getting paid way too much money which then attracts the partners and all the trappings they now have access to - but without the apparent 'education' of doing things sensibly...
Lawyers are going to be waking up every morning with a huge smile on their face watching the fees rack up, I suspect the footballers are cringing as this progresses...and I'm really hoping the 'suspects' are having a serious think about how shallow and childish they actually are.
Right, got that off my chest...I'll get back to my ivory tower now!
Vardy asked the court: “Who is Davy Jones?” The judge intervened to explain the reference. 😂
and our society is largely lapping this up.
If by that you mean most people are pointing and laughing, then I agree, if you think that there's a group of folks for whom this is serious, then no, I don't think there is. 99% of folks can see this for what it is:
I read a piece recently about a different subject, but the point of it is well made here: The age at which you come into enough money so that you don't have to work anymore is roughly the age you'll stay at for the rest of your life. For these two, it's high school.
Nope, I'm not thinking there are people looking at this seriously, more that it is being considered light entertainment and worthy of all the headlines to help the comedy show carry on. Our society seems to get enjoyment from this type of car-crash story, I don't quite understand it, but I'm happy not to be following it in any detail - I'm seeing the headlines on BBC News so I'm aware it is going on.
I read a piece recently about a different subject, but the point of it is well made here: The age at which you come into enough money so that you don’t have to work anymore is roughly the age you’ll stay at for the rest of your life. For these two, it’s high school.
That is interesting and definitely proving to be true in this case!
Our society seems to get enjoyment from this type of car-crash story
Because, as someone pointed out up thread, it's a real life soap-opera that has literally no consequences and no impact, it's pop-corn material. Watching two idiots spending days in court revealing to the world how idiotic they are.
It's like watching Eurovision, no one watches because of the music, we watch it because it's great excuse to get together with a few beers with your friends and point and laugh.
Same thing
They should settle it by being made to run up a greased incline whilst being blasted with water jets and dressed as penguins.
First to the top wins. Loser launched by trebuchet into a vat of beans.
Televise it pay-per-view as an alternative to the Jubilee.
Proceeds to charity.
Our society seems to get enjoyment from this type of car-crash story
It's no different to watching Coronation Street, Emmerdale, Eastenders, I'm a Celebrity, etc. - just more random!
Our society seems to get enjoyment from this type of car-crash story
Of course it bloody does, it's a brilliant story.
You can just sit there being all superior while the rest of us enjoy it.
Following on from DickBarton’s mention of the BBC, I noted with no amusement that the case was being covered by their entertainment correspondent rather then their legal one.
Makes a change for the top libel lawyers not to be instructed by Russian oligarchs.
I noted with no amusement that the case was being covered by their entertainment correspondent rather then their legal one
Nothing unusual about this, despite what Vardy's lawyer insinuated.
All news journalists should be capable of covering a court case, and this is a fundamentally a celeb story not a legal one.
You can just sit there being all superior while the rest of us enjoy it.
Not really superior, just confused and not understanding...
Vardy asked the court: “Who is Davy Jones?” The judge intervened to explain the reference. 😂
Why are The Monkees involved? Did the judge tell her to stop being a daydream believer or get on the last train to Clarksville?
This will probably be the only time in my life that I will defend Rooney. Lots of people piling in saying they are both terrible people
Vardy leaked private stories
Vardy got called out for it when caught
Vardy then launches civil case for libel
Vardy then implodes in court
Rooney is not the baddie in this pathetic drama.
Vardy seems thicker than a Boxing Day turd. Almost feel sorry for Jamie.
their legal teams must be making a fortune out of these idiots
Estimated to cost each of them £1.5MM so yes the legal teams won't be doing badly out of it I suppose.
Vardy leaked private stories
Vardy got called out for it when caught
Vardy then launches civil case for libel
Vardy then implodes in court
This seems to be the crux of it for me...it's like Vardy was hoping Rooney would apologise when threatened with libel but didn't and now Vardy can't back down and leave it. From what I've read everything seems to indicate her and her assistant did this full time.
Does Rooney have any hope of winning (or not losing), given all the possible sources of proof that Vardy is guilty seem to have unfortunately been lost, destroyed, or are otherwise unable to be presented?
However poorly Vardy’s turn in the box may have gone, there’s no proof she’s done what Rooney alleged?
I read a piece recently about a different subject, but the point of it is well made here: The age at which you come into enough money so that you don’t have to work anymore is roughly the age you’ll stay at for the rest of your life. For these two, it’s high school.
Doesn't work with Mrs Vardy, this is her second marriage (pretty sure she has two kids from the previous fella, a non league footballer (so, semi-pro).
Does Rooney have any hope of winning (or not losing), given all the possible sources of proof that Vardy is guilty seem to have unfortunately been lost, destroyed, or are otherwise unable to be presented?
However poorly Vardy’s turn in the box may have gone, there’s no proof she’s done what Rooney alleged?
I think you are probably correct - it isn't for Vardy's team to prove she is innocent, it's for Rooney's team to prove she is guilty and they can't prove it beyond reasonable doubt without evidence.
Rooney famously wrote "it's Rebecca Vardy's account".
Which was acknowledged at the time as being a surprisingly smart way of pointing the finger, without actually saying it was RV.
She can presumably prove that only RV had sight of the leaked stories, so I'd guess there's enough evidence to defend the libel claim.
It's a long time since I studied libel law, but I would put my money on Colleen here.
it isn’t for Vardy’s team to prove she is innocent, it’s for Rooney’s team to prove she is guilty
Isn't this back-to-front? It's Vardy who needs to prove Rooney is guilty (of making an unsubstantiated accusation), except it's all gone a bit pear shaped and Vardy (who's admitted her PA did it) is looking like the perpetrator!
She can presumably prove that only RV had sight of the leaked stories, so I’d guess there’s enough evidence to defend the libel claim.
From memory she blocked everyone apart from Vardy, and a (fake I think) story that she posted got out anyway
Isn’t this back-to-front? It’s Vardy who needs to prove Rooney is guilty (of an unsubstantiated accusation), except it’s all gone a bit pear shaped and Vardy (who’s admitted her PA did it) is looking like the perpetrator!
Sorry you are right, Vardy brought the case however she can prove that Rooney made the libellous comment (this isn't being contested) so Rooney has to prove that it was Vardy that leaked the story and that is the bit that might well be impossible as all the evidence appears to have been 'lost'.
From memory she blocked everyone apart from Vardy, and a (fake I think) story that she posted got out anyway
However she needs to prove that this is the case, not just claim it's so. Does she have any evidence that only Vardy had access to the account or is she just claiming that to be the case? One of them is lying (Vardy I expect) however without actual evidence Rooney is going to find it difficult to prove that to be the case.
