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How on earth were these idiots allowed into a partially closed stadium?
Surely great practice for a well placed sniper, no?
Gatling Gun....
theses idiots
Given the location, quite literally racist cockwombles.
Racist cockwombles
Bravo
****ing disgusting should be banned from any sporting venue.
Its unbelievable. They should just be banned from having any fans in or even banned altogether.
There's no need to tarnish Wimbledon's finest recyclers with that brush.
Kind of odd that the main racist group all wore ancient flannel tracksuits not seen in the UK since 1979. I wouldn’t have thought it would too much trouble to film them, then fine and ban them
Surely even the thickest of racists must be pondering the fact that a team with four (was it?) black players just crushed their team - and the black players scored three of the goals. Where's your racial superiority now then, cretins?
The only answers to this are to make them play their next match in an empty stadium, or even better a neutral stadium with none of their supporters allowed, or best of all make them lose home advantage and play both matches away. Fines won't stop it, they just get paid and forgotten, but if the fans hear racist chants and realise they might not get to see the next match they could put a stop to it.
Not sure what the answer is as what's the betting most of the racist chanters couldn't really give a rats arse about the football.
They'd probably call it a victory if they stop a match.
Probably the best thing to do is remove them from the stadiums quietly, identify them and prosecute the individuals accordingly alongside a lifetime ban.
Or better still, remove them from the stand and place them all in a holding pen underground until 3 hours after the match. Could even put some 'colours' into the pen for them to taunt - perhaps a couple of lions, a rhino and a few black mambas.*
*suspect this will be slightly against human rights
The camera caught one Bulgarian fan shaking his head at the goings on. You'd have to be pretty brave to challenge it though, racism is pretty endemic over there I understand.
Judges in MegaCity One used (will use?) a foul smelling, permanent green dye they sprayed on hooligans. Initially it stank for a few weeks before washing off and if the trouble carried on, the dye and stench went up to 3 months persistence.
The camera caught one Bulgarian fan shaking his head at the goings on. You’d have to be pretty brave to challenge it though
Hopefully, but you have no idea what he was shaking his head at, might have been for completely the opposite reason?. Altho, as the main group left just on haft time, there did appear to be one or two wave them away in disgust and I dare say many others might have wished to be as brave.
It is the denials and protection the manager of Bulgaria has afforded the racists that has irked me. He should be banned from all footballing activity. At least their captain looked like he was trying to help and pleading with the fans to just stop.
should be banned from any sporting venue.
Yes, and that’s what we have done in the UK. Doesn’t mean the idiots disappear, just means that they are not in the public eye, and that’s ok isn’t it ?
Yes, and that’s what we have done in the UK. Doesn’t mean the idiots disappear, just means that they are not in the public eye, and that’s ok isn’t it ?
Well kind of, yes. This is partly about not giving the racist tossers the publicity that the tv affords them. Last night was probably seen as a victory for them, just take a look at the guy waving the ***** UEFA top. Shouldn’t give them the air time IMO, although it does need reporting.
Yes, and that’s what we have done in the UK. Doesn’t mean the idiots disappear, just means that they are not in the public eye, and that’s ok isn’t it ?
Not really sure, my OH is a Chelsea supporter so we occasionally go to a game.
I have to get her to translate the racist chants! English football still has a problem too.
Yes, and that’s what we have done in the UK. Doesn’t mean the idiots disappear, just means that they are not in the public eye, and that’s ok isn’t it ?
Well, I think it is better of parents can take children to football matches, without having to hear racist chanting, and have them think it is normal behaviour. It might take a few generations but PC culture can help to change attitudes.
Unfortunately twunts like Trump, Farage and Bojo have tapped into a vein of pathetic white imbeciles who feel threatened by not being allowed to be racist arseholes. Hopefully it is the last gasp of such pathetic behaviour and in a few years we will look back at now with embarrassment.
What would the result of the match been, if it had been abandoned?
If it would have been a draw or a replay behind closed doors, then the fans had an incentive to get it stopped once it was obvious who was going to win - so a bad planning
decision on the part of UEFA if that's the case!
Award the game to England and then there's no incentive to continue (apart from racism/facism propaganda).
There’s no need to tarnish Wimbledon’s finest recyclers with that brush.
Are you kidding? The is a reason why they all try to shut Uncle Bulgaria up....... and he voted for Brexit.
Are you kidding? The is a reason why they all try to shut Uncle Bulgaria up……. and he voted for Brexit.
respect! 🙂
You’d have to be pretty brave to challenge it though, racism is pretty endemic over there I understand.
yes, they're all like that
The fact is that UEFA don't take racism even remotely seriously. they seem to regard it as just par for the course and one of those things that happens at the match, so what's all the fuss about?
They go through the motions, issue a cursory fine and carry on as if nothing happened. Move along now. Nothing to see here...
Nothing will change until they hit them where it hurts... their revenues. Make an example of one of the usual repeat offenders and just turf them out of the tournament
I think you have to understand the vast cultural differences at play here. My wife is Bulgarian, but came to live in the UK when she was only 19, so has grown to fully understand racism and its consequences. Unfortunately her parents are more influenced by their communist roots where racism is part and parcel of the culture. They just don't get it, even after living in the UK for over a decade. They are decent law-abiding professional people (doctor and uni lecturer), but some of their racist comments are just shockingly embarrassing. So I would imagine there are a lot of native Bulgarians who have a similar outlook, especially the less educated masses. So I really wasn't that surprised at this news.
Maybe a ban from all sporting activity for 12 months would educate them a bit then if they are so backward.
It is shocking, but I think we need to get off our high horse a bit.
The UK is full of rascists. We've managed to broadly push it out of top tier football but it's still there.
@moshimonster not just the Bulgarians I found the Swiss were a pretty racist bunch too, especially to non Europeans.
@moshimonster not just the Bulgarians I found the Swiss were a pretty racist bunch too, especially to non Europeans.
Yes, I've been in a group of UK mtbers in a small bar, post ride, and our (bi-lingual) guide took a Swiss guy to task on the next table - apparently he was whingeing about 'outsiders' cluttering the place up.
It is easy to forget that the UK is probably the least racist place in Europe. Bulgaria and much of the former Soviet Eastern Eu nations have nowhere near the history of openness and have a lot of catching up to do in general with Western, liberal ways.
The UK is full of rascists. We’ve managed to broadly push it out of top tier football but it’s still there.
the proportion of rascists might have gone up now all those rascist eastern europeans have been allowed in unchecked 🙂
sold my car to a muslim guy in east london who was desperate to move out because his whole block was now occupied by Romanians !
sold my car to a muslim guy in east london who was desperate to move out because his whole block was now occupied by Romanians !
that's very progressive of you! where either of them (Romanians or the Muslim guy) migrants?
It is easy to forget that the UK is probably the least racist place in Europe.
No it really isn't.
No it really isn’t.
So what is?
I don't know if the UK is the least racist but it's definitely on the lower end. That's not to say there is still not plenty of racism but but I find it quite surprising the level of casual racism in many other parts Europe among the under 30s which is a fairly good indicator as view tend to be less liberal in the older generations.
It is the denials and protection the manager of Bulgaria has afforded the racists that has irked me
So the president of the bulgarian FA has resigned, the prime minister having said its unacceptable and he needs to go.
Scapegoat maybe but even at that I can't imagine the same happening here to be honest.
I don’t know if the UK is the least racist but it’s definitely on the lower end. That’s not to say there is still not plenty of racism but but I find it quite surprising the level of casual racism in many other parts Europe among the under 30s which is a fairly good indicator as view tend to be less liberal in the older generations.
Yeah, knew a female academic from Valencia - when she came to London she was shocked and worried by all the black people because apparently they are criminals in Valencia.
Same lady wondered why we voted Brexit because the EU is “white” - I was more than tempted to reply “Haha you aren’t in America”. I thought I’d keep my trap shut though.
Well, the players seemed to handle it really well and, as far as I am concerned they have done all they can do.
Maybe next time they should make it loud and clear by traveling in with just enough time for a warm up and a kick around, play the game, win and then piss off on the first available plane.
They can then just say “we don’t want to play you but we have to, we rock up to your shithole little country, thrash you and then leave as there is nothing to see here and, frankly, you can keep it”.
It is up to FIFA and UEFA to act, not players or teams.
The Bulgarian captain should have taken his team off. They were losing anyway,
Last night’s racist behaviour was disgraceful. However, I’m not sure that England fans have got anything to crow about. Not on the same level as monkey chants etc.. but the (section of) jingoistic English tossers who believe it’s ok to boo and jeer an opposition’s national anthem (again) should look at their own ****ttish behaviour too.
we rock up to your shithole little country,
Perfectly pitched on a thread about how racism is bad and should be dealt with
...I found the Swiss were a pretty racist bunch too...
From my experience they are a very insular nation.
It's alright though. When SC Bern came to Nottingham a few years back for a Champions Hockey League game the fans sat behind the SC Bern bench chanted "Nazi Gold" for a fair while.
For my bother, who has only attended NHL games and was sat the row behind the SC Bern bench, it was quite an eye opener.
This is how you do it.
An FA Cup tie was abandoned after Haringey Borough's manager took his team off the field amid accusations of racism, bottle throwing and spitting.
Home keeper Valery Douglas Pajetat was reportedly spat at and hit by an object thrown from the Yeovil Town end.
Defender Coby Rowe was then "racially abused", according to Haringey boss Tom Loizou, who said "there was no way I could let him continue".
"If we get punished and thrown out, I don't care," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50111754
Indeed, hat off to both teams for walking off. The sooner this becomes the norm the better.
This gives a fairly good idea as to the thinking of Bulgarians...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/20/bulgaria-sofia-racism-roma-everybody-hates-us-anti-gypsy-abuse