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Paint stripper. Tried to strip a door frame today with new improved (non toxic and hurty) paint stripper.
WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!
They've taken out the chemical that actually made it work, and now you have to use two coats and leave it for 1hr before trying to scrape the single coat of paint it has blistered. Great, except there are eight coats on the doorframe. Whatever happened to the stuff that used to blister the paint in ten seconds, and also your hands if you weren't careful?
Proper mans paint stripper. Anything else from the "olden days" which was far better than it is now?


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:06 pm
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Anything else from the "olden days" which was far better than it is now?

My wife.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:07 pm
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Being a Health and Safety inspector used to be a piece of pish.


 
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Chip wrappers, always were better in newspaper!


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:09 pm
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Masturbation.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:11 pm
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Gigs - much better when a little crowd surfing and stage diving was still allowed.

Simone


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:11 pm
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Do you remember when we used to be able to work with asbestos?

Those were...*cough*...days.

Bloody *hack* killjoys.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot about Wanmankylung's wife.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:13 pm
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White paint

The top tube gear stick on choppers

Wanmankylung's wife 😉


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:14 pm
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Do you remember when we used to be able to work with asbestos?

I remember my father servicing the drum brakes on his Ford Anglia and brushing the accumulated asbestos dust out of the drum for us all to inhale - happy days!


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:27 pm
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My job


 
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Using and removing asbestos
Working down the mines or offshore
Working for unscrupulous bosses used be brilliant

In short, making more money by cutting corners was bloody great. Obviously it was only great if you didn't get hurt, but it fuelled our sense of adventure didn't it?

OP - just get your door dipped and stripped. So much easier and cheaper.


 
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firestarter:

My job

To be fair, you did keep starting those fires.


 
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White gloss paint that stayed white for more than 10 minutes.


 
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Creosote.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:33 pm
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Might have trouble with dipping the door frame.
Not the door that needed stripping.
As an aside, what do companies who dip doors use?
They must have special dispensation to use the stuff that made you high?


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:35 pm
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That is true jamie 😉


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:36 pm
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Can we have a picture of your wife wanmankylung, so we can be the judge?


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:36 pm
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That is true jamie

Just put down the matches, mate, and we can talk.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:37 pm
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Just put down the matches, mate, and we can talk.

You're aware that reads like you want to bugger him into discussion?


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:53 pm
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In an interesting turn of events this evening, the wife mentioned above looks like becoming my ex-wife in the foreseeable future. (It was always going to happen, just a matter of when).


 
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😳 and 😕


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 7:58 pm
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[quote=firestarter ]My job

+1, been told we to have a risk assessment for sharpening chinagraph pencils 🙄 🙄 REALLY!!


 
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Gigs - much better when a little crowd surfing and stage diving was still allowed.

You've been going to the wrong gigs! Constant flood of tubby fliers at the last few I was at, quite a lot of comedy droppage too.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:05 pm
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Gigs - much better when a little crowd surfing and stage diving was still allowed.

Not so much at Coldplay gigs these days...


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:13 pm
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1.1.1


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:28 pm
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Colman's English mustard. Used to burn your nose hair, now it's feeble. Bet it was those H&S meddlers 👿


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:32 pm
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They've taken out the chemical that actually made it work, and now you have to use two coats

H+S ? or marketing ? 😉
bit like the "rinse+repeat" on shampoo (I bet nobody does)


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:33 pm
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I'll name the brand. Nitromors. Used to be awesome. Paint would blister for miles around just by taking the lid off. The new stuff is like rubbing toothpaste into the paint just not as volatile.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:39 pm
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Pantomimes aren't as good as they used to be.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:42 pm
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Oh yes they are!


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:44 pm
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The mosh pit is certainly one place the H&S man or woman hasn't interfered with; I can attest to that :mrgreen:


 
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Oh no they're not


 
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Life, life was better.


 
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Cars


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:48 pm
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I work on the motorways - I used to wear a short sleeved hi-viz vest, hard hat, shorts and riggers in summer. If I wanted to get to the other side of the M1, I legged it across 6 lanes. Occassionally, I may have had a cheeky spliff at lunchtime. And what was a risk assessment?

Now, I wear head to toe hi-viz, flame retardant overalls, gloves, glasses, no riggers (that's probably not a bad thing). If I even look at a traffic cone, never mind set foot outside one, I'll probably be off site. I can't even have a cheeky spliff in my own time at weekends, as I'm always facing the prospect of a drugs test. I hear next week, they are risk assessing taking a dump.

A lot of the work I do is for a major construction company - they have banned the use of Stanley knives - this is a real PITA being a sparky working with armoured cables.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:50 pm
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Can I be the first?

Are you defending getting stoned on the motorway?!

😉


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 8:56 pm
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Personal responsibility. 🙄

In answer to the OP.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:15 pm
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May I be the first to defend his right to get stoned on a [s]motorway[/s] weekend.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:16 pm
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Spray Mount ozone friendly. Crap.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:21 pm
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Children's playgrounds. When I were a lad you could fall off a badly maintained roundabout onto hard concrete. Now it's all soft surfaces. How's a kid to lose a tooth?


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:21 pm
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The baby Jesus.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:24 pm
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Bikes.
Nowadays they're all really good and put together with the forks on the right way round. In the olden days you'd get one with the wheels on backwards or it'd be a Raleigh chopper just waiting to go round a corner before losing control and throwing your knackers onto a gear stick.

Remember those god-awful full-suss Klein's that rammed you up the arse every time you put the brakes on?
Or those disk wheels that wobbled sideways under load?
How about those adjusta-stems?
Rear suspension only bikes?

They don't make dangerous kit like that any more.


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:32 pm
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The HSE haven't really ruined anything, it's the people who are "health and safety experts" with no hands on experience or legal knowledge, employed by our firms who do little but impose PPE rather than tackle the real issues.

RCD's have taken the fun out of things somewhat, especially when popping some toast on whilst having a bath. Never were the stakes so high.


 
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Kia-Ora


 
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[i]In an interesting turn of events this evening, the wife mentioned above looks like becoming my ex-wife in the foreseeable future. (It was always going to happen, just a matter of when). [/i]

We're still looking for a picture 🙂


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 9:59 pm
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Weedkiller - you used to be able to get some that would kill weeds in an area for a few years. Now it wears off in a couple of weeks. Ironically prompting me to consider dumping fuel down or salt...


 
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Job done!


 
Posted : 27/05/2014 10:06 pm
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WCA back on a ladder?


 
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Last time I was at Brixton academy they had those lovely no crowd surfing signs up, not that I took any notice of them of course :0).

They did start putting up those barriers between the crowd and the stage in various small ish venues (lived in holland then, but I am sure they started doing the same here) in the 90's, made stage diving much harder!

Last festival I went to was in Belgium, much more relaxed on H and S over there. We had a great time, managed to crowd surf all the way around one of the tents. They even had the campsite on one side of the dual carriage way, and the festival site on the other side with 24h lollipop type people?! Belgium is great!


 
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"Belgium is great!" That is the first time I have ever heard that said!


 
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Apparently the guy is 84...

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Posted : 27/05/2014 11:31 pm
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Forks without the lawyer lips on the dropouts! 😡 You could actually use the quick release as intended; open lever, remove wheel. No unscrewing the nut a bunch of turns, then the reverse when putting the wheel back on. 😡

It won't matter pretty soon as everything is going to thru axles, though.


 
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Chip wrappers, always were better in newspaper!

Not a health and safety choice, surely?


 
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Any kind of beeping "alert" in a car is a step-backwards in my opinion.... particularly relating to seatbelts not done up.

We had a hire-care in the alps, put the back seats down, loaded-up with skiing gear.... and beepbeepbeepbeep. The weight of the luggage was making it think somebody was sitting on the rear seats (without being belted-up).

Couldn't figure-out how to cancel the beeping.

Unload car, unfold seats, do-up seatbelts, re-fold seats, reload car.... beepbeepbeepbeep. GAH!

Unload car, unfold seats, do-up seatbelts INCLUDING MIDDLE SEAT, re-fold seats, reload car.

Although to be honest - that's probably more to do with French cars than "advances" in health and safety.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 3:11 am
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The removal of dcm from paint strippers for use by joe public ( it can still be used by professional companies with correct control measures) is part of the e.u.REACH regulstions to remove products whic contain known carcinogenic/ toxic/harmful/ environmentally damaging materials etc... the problem with dcm is that is was very good a killing people whos idea of adequate ventilation was to open a small window whilst stripping an entire door in a garage or basement, assuming that they actually read any instructions in the first place to even see the ventilation bit!. Pretty much all the "hse gone mad" stuff mentioned in this thread is litigation and insurance based rather than hse, caused by fkwits who sue for their own stupidity and kack of personal responsibility

anyway, don't let facts get in the way of your daily mailesque rantette.


 
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Any kind of beeping "alert" in a car is a step-backwards in my opinion.... particularly relating to seatbelts not done up.

But it works to get dickheads to wear their seatbelt...


 
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The HSE haven't really ruined anything, it's the people who are "health and safety experts" with no hands on experience or legal knowledge, employed by our firms who do little but impose PPE rather than tackle the real issues.

Hang on...this isn't about police road safety campaigns aimed at cyclists


 
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Rolfs Cartoon club!


 
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Samurai

Remember those god-awful full-suss Klein's that rammed you up the arse every time you put the brakes on?

I'll be riding mine at the Bristol Bikefest in a couple of weeks 🙂 You're right, mind, it does do that...


 
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I got reported at work by an officious ground handler for not wearing ear defenders. I pointed that I turned off all the stuff that makes noise before heading outside, and since I was the sole authority for turning it back on I was fairly confident it would stay off.

Didn't wash, unfortunately. Now I just try not to get caught.


 
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Flaperon,

surely you feign deafness at that point and the wind is taken out of his sails?!
I feign blindness below 100'. Avoids having to apologise for heavy landings....


 
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[quote=Ambrose ]"Belgium is great!" That is the first time I have ever heard that said!

Can't be. Belgium is pretty cool, in a no-nonsense kind of way. They just get on with stuff and tend not to get involved with other people's stuff. The place ran for years without a "proper" government, just civil servants getting on with things.


 
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Changing front wheels before lawyer lips


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 8:26 am
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Being a kid - conkers and The Bumps.


 
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[url= http://www.paintstripper.com/welcometochemica.html ]You need to find someone to sell you some Paramose Professional Paint and Varnish Remover[/url]

Cheeper than Nitromors and still full of Dichloromethane goodness but as tazzymtb says be carefull you will need one of these [url= http://www.3mdirect.co.uk/respiratory-protection-2/3m-4251-maintenance-free-reusable-half-mask-ffa1p2rd-1-Pack.html ]Organic Vapour and Particulate Respirator [/url] plus googles and gloves


 
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Safety glasses, took all the fun out of cutting and grinding metal.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 9:13 am
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lead out of solder for most applications, talk about a change for the worse...


 
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Going for a pee after a morning spent with Ye Olde Worlde Nitromors


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 11:20 am
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Wham bars. I'm sure they're smaller and considerably less chewy.

I blame [s]The Tories[/s] Health & Safety.


 
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Gobstoppers


 
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I think I have a mid-80s vintage can of nitromors in the garage, perhaps I should put it on ebay...


 
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Outward Bound Instructors


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 12:07 pm
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Petrol lawnmowers.
Mine won't stay running when you empty the grassbox.
Pain in the butt.
Manufactures probably worried about the advantages of users still having two hands after cutting the grass?
Lightweights!


 
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toolstation, all staff must wear gloves at all times, even trying to get money out of the till, was bad enough now thyre told not to carry anything, even a box of screws must be transported in a noisy plastic tub on nylon wheels, that you cant hear what is being said over the noise and the radio.

Fit rubber wheels.


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 5:29 pm
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Its called "paint brush restorer" these days, but you can still get it.

We did some work for a roofer who "didnt believe in elf and safety, its all twaddle, i dont need scaffolding". the following visit we did he had fallen out of his van and bust his leg. I pointed out that ANY height you can fall from comes under working at height regs. He didnt get it.


 
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Why do Tool station staff have to wear gloves?


 
Posted : 28/05/2014 5:43 pm
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incase .they injure their hands putting dangerous tools into plastic bags for us customers.

They seriously should have cup holders for the free tea and soup they have sometimes, very hot.


 
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Trichloroethylene degreasing plants.
Hods (for carrying bricks).
Twin tub washing machines, where the spinner used to carry on after the lid went up.!!!
Train doors with drop down windows. Nowt like arriving at Euston with a 100mph hair style.
Terracing at football grounds.
The odd ruckus at away games. (Not 10 on to one, mercilessly stamping some poor sod to death).


 
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You been in the Chester branch project, the coffee is like lava!. I get it, buy stuff and then sit in the car for an hour waiting for it to cool!! 😯


 
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