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Is that a penalty now?
Wow
Galascum - its expected. Brutally assaulted by Szoboszlai (arm brushed his chest, went down clutching his face as if someone had leathered him, gets the penalty - stands up smiling). As my son said watching it, if this is what football has become, he hates it.
Champions League? More like the soft penalties league - if either the Man City or Liverpool pens had happened elsewhere on the pitch or if they were attacking players & not defenders nothing would've been given.
I think the man city penalty would be given 99% of the time in the PL or CL, the free kick it came from absolutely shouldn't have been a free kick, Monaco were throwing themselves at the floor all through the game and the ref was buying every bit of acting going, but from the moment I saw the replay of the penalty it was obvious it was going to be given.
I see Big Ange has seen Amorims win record and said “hold my pint”
Sacking Nuno looks even more mystifying than ever
Ange and Potter will become this era’s Bruce/Pardew/Hughes, frequently getting jobs, getting sacked then fading away to the lower leagues.
Ange has a big task on if he wants to change a very negative team to a swashbuckling attacking one. I expect also Nuno will face the wrath of the West Ham fans for not playing ‘the West Ham’ way.
Does anybody know what ‘The West Ham Way’ actually is?
I’ve heard it referenced for decades, but never seen any evidence of it.
I expect also Nuno will face the wrath of the West Ham fans for not playing ‘the West Ham’ way.
Such complaints tend to surface during runs of poor results, for example the last half season under Moyes. I remain of the view that Potter is a decent coach, but was poorly suited to West Ham.
Such complaints tend to surface during runs of poor results, for example the last half season under Moyes. I remain of the view that Potter is a decent coach, but was poorly suited to West Ham.
Looking at how well Brighton were set up I am of the view that Potter is an average coach who was fortunate to be at a club who had discovered a great formula for identifying talented players.
De Zerbi was a far better coach for Brighton than Potter imo.
Today is the embodiment of our continual decline as a club. My Sunderland-supporting mate is quite keen to find a pub with a dodgy feed we can watch the match together in.
He’s confident that they’re going to pick up an easy 3 points at Old Trafford and on present respective form I can’t see that confidence as misplaced. We’re languishing in 14th and look utterly dismal, they’re up in 6th and absolutely flying.
I’ve applied the kiss of death to them by sticking a fiver on them at 6-1, which are crazy odds given our respective form. This is what it’s come to…. betting against United, at home, against a side that have just come up.
The first match I ever took my daughter to was Sunderland, when Moyes had just been sacked, Giggs was standing in, and they beat us comfortably then. Back then I don’t think anyone could ever envisage how far we’d fall. It really is quite something.
Greggs has a pub now, The Golden Flake. I'm guessing it'll have a very flat roof.
Reading FC entertain Mansfield, not too much I hope.
My kids of death bet worked. Money well spent 😃
Well that should keep Amorim in a job for a while longer, so we can all continue to have a good old laugh.
Slottage time backfires again!
Several players look woefully out of form - Konate, Mac Allister, Kerkez, Salah, Isak clearly not fit, Wirtz looks lost. Weird to say given they’re second but Arne’s got a job on!
Well that should keep Amorim in a job for a while longer, so we can all continue to have a good old laugh.
its all academic anyway. I don’t think anyone believes another chuck of the managerial dice is going to improve matters. The rot goes far deeper than that. We’re at the point where winning at home to Sunderland is actually a relief
Yep, Liverpool made Chelsea look better than they should be. They've got 6 first luck defenders out of action.
New signings really off the pace.
Probably one of the nastiest rivalries in world football today, the old farm derby. Second only to Reading Oxford.
Probably one of the nastiest rivalries in world football today, the old farm derby. Second only to Reading Oxford.
Live on ITV, club ride I was leading finished in time. First goal disallowed just to add to the atmosphere. Commentator apologising for the crowd 🤣
Second only to Reading Oxford.
Burnley v Blackburn is another absolutely mental one! I have no idea why a couple of junctions on the M65 can elicit such vitriolic hatred. 🤷♂️
I don't buy in to the hatred in derby games, and I find the mates who go that far are usually the first to say how great the atmosphere is at WSL games without that excess testosterone.
Great second goal for Ipswich, not convinced we'll actually beat them for the first time in 16 years.
In Reading's case boat diver and father of dodgy daughter Robert Maxwell, tried to merge the two clubs.
Blimey, and we've got a game in hand, after that convenient flood at Blackburn the other week.
Blimey, and we've got a game in hand, after that convenient flood at Blackburn the other week.
Fair play to you and Ipswich deserved the win ...boy that hurts as a Norwich fan (but at least we have fond memories of the last 16 years 😉 ).
Sadly I can see that kick starting your season whilst we could be plummeting to league one unless some serious changes are made!
OTBC
Meanwhile in Scotland, watching my brother's utter incomprehension as Hearts go top of the league and Rangers spend the entire season falling down stairs has been pretty fun. Hearts fans are not configured for this sort of thing, they are a plucky underdog/maybe we'll qualify for europe/ah well it's still better than Romanov sort of a population and it is fun to watch them disassociate as things go well, in the certain knowledge that they're about to wake from a dream and learn that the entire first 11 have just fallen down a mineshaft or Tynecastle's been eaten by Godzilla or something more normal like that.
I wish my dad had lived to see this, it'd have been like watching someone take LSD for the first time.
Ah, the Romanov era, when George Burley had Hearts top of the league after ten games and Romanov sacked him. Happy days. Looking forward to the west coast media doing their best to upset Hearts apple cart by insinuating that McInnes is in talks with Rangers over the next few days.
Lovely stuff. Give him a pay rise too please Jim.
Re Hearts. I think they have a real chance. Celtic have relied on several last minute winners recently to keep in touch and there seems to be plenty of grumbling from the fan base and internally. It doesn’t seem a happy camp.
Oh dear lord! At the present rate of return, in that time he’ll have spent the best part of a billion quid and got us up to 12th
I bumped into a mate last night and we were discussing the present shambles. I told him that last season was the first where I’d not been to OT once.
He said he’s knocked it on the head too as they don’t do Childs concessions any more so the cheapest tickets for both him and his son are now 67 quid each. So it’s the best part of 150 quid to watch that dross, so he’s not bothering any more
You're 10th, 3 points shy of the top five. Not sure why it's the crisis of the century, when the mediocrity of everyone else may yet save you. Apparently the Saudis are now sniffing around Man Utd, which will make some of your fanbase suddenly shelve all the 'oil money' taunts aimed at City/Newcastle etc.
On a brighter note, nice to see the Hojland revival continuing at Napoli. Amazing what a decent midfield support can do for a striker.
Not sure why it's the crisis of the century
You know the rules…. According to the meedya at least one premier league club needs to be ‘in crisis’. It’s just our turn at the moment. It’ll be somebody else next week
You're late, it was West Ham last week and it's already been handed over to Forest
Beating Greece at home isn't for everyone.
It was quite astonishing to see Scotland snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. The most one sided victory I think I’ve seen - maybe Liverpool beating PSG away last season is comparable.
we're away to Portugal on Saturday - really hope the referee steps in and stops it before it's a massacre. I expect Engerland have a home fixture against Sri Lanka under 14's.
Arne Slot flies to Baghdad to watch a young Iraqi boy play football. Slotty is suitably impressed and arranges for him to come over.
Two weeks later Liverpool are 4-0 down to Man City with 37 minutes left, Slot gives the young Iraqi striker the nod and on he goes.
The lad is a sensation, scores 5 goals in 37 minutes and wins the game for Liverpool. The fans are delighted, the players and coaches are delighted and the media love the new star.
When the lad comes off the pitch he phones his mum to tell her about his first day in English football.
'Hello mum, guess what?' he says 'I played for 37 minutes today, we were 4-0 down but I scored 5 and we won. Everybody loves me, the fans, the media, they all love me.'
'Wonderful,' says his mum, 'Let me tell you about my day. Your father got shot in the street and robbed, your sister and I were ambushed, and our handbags were robbed and now your brother has joined a gang of looters, and all while you were having such great time.'
The young lad is very upset. 'What can I say mum, but I'm really sorry..'
'Sorry?!!! Sorry?!!!' screams his mum, 'it's your f#cking fault we came to Liverpool in the first place!'
So farewell then, Big Ange. No chance of winning in his second season. Hope he gets another job very soon. As a Chelsea supporter ideally it would be Sunderland because we are playing them next week.
Forest no longer a crisis club!
Ange gone, bring in O'Neil for an European party whilst looking for a successor to Nuno... please....
I think they’ll never be too far from a crisis with the owner calling the shots. What a tool. I’m no Ange apologist but did Maranakis really expect instant results from the polar opposite of Nuno style/tactics wise?
Well, as its my scouse mates birthday and he wants to go to the pub to watch the match, short of faking my own death I'm going to be enduring watching the Liverpool game where we will no doubt get absolutely battered! 😫
Watched the Arsenal game yesterday. We were very average throughout. I really don't see what some people see in us, I can't see us winning the league this year on what I've seen after 8 games. I'd say 3rd after City and Liverpool.
stcolin - it was a pretty stodgy watch. But your defence is immense and I think will win you the league. It’s a very settled side too, with a deep squad now too.
Bwahaha. Err..Amorim out?
Well, as its my scouse mates birthday and he wants to go to the pub to watch the match,
In Liverpool, or Manchester?
How’s the birthday boy Binners?
I know it's early days but it would be great to see Hearts do a Leicester.
Well I wasn’t expecting that!
I’m just savouring winding up some pretty pissed off scousers! 😂
Liverpool lose four on the bounce. CRISIS CLUB.
#SlotOut 😂
It’s like season 2020/21 when after winning the league they had a poor season. Missing Trent massively and Kerkez has been underwhelming too - delivery is poor. If that’s Isak now fit then I’ll go with theotherjonv’s theory of him being a one and a half season wonder. As for Salah - I think they’ll be hoping for a Saudi bid in January! Touch and pace has deserted him massively. Wirtz looked decent though when he came on - time to build the side around him?
United held firm and should have scored more in the first half especially.
Maguire does seem to score a lot of key goals. Maybe they should start him up front?
England’s top scoring defender! Harder chance than the one Gakpo spurned.
Maguire does seem to score a lot of key goals. Maybe they should start him up front
Big Virge (who was seriously off the pace today) does exactly the same for Liverpool at set pieces
Amorim played Slabhead as striker a few times at the back end of last season, mainly as our alleged striker couldn’t hit a barn door with a shovel
Does anyone know why Savage is getting a hard time, the beeb’s not particularly forthcoming?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8r0jzj5p2vo
I've found several articles about it - but nothing that details the chants.
Not a good look for Slot when he is blaming his woes on how other teams play - the low block and the temerity to play long balls.
Trent only played in half the games last season and when he did he was very average - its Diaz they are missing more as he chased from the front. Look at his form in Germany now.
Agree Diaz is a loss, but he wanted to go. His forms great, but the Bundesliga is a farmers league, remember 😁
Sean Dyche to Forest? Makes sense with the general trend to more direct tactics!
Not a good look for Slot when he is blaming his woes on how other teams play - the low block and the temerity to play long balls.
To be fair to him, it sounds a bit better than “other teams have sussed out how to play against us and beat us, but I don’t have a plan B”
I also loved his moaning that the game should have immediately been stopped when Mac Allister went down.
Great, so when the opposition breaks on the counter, just get one of your own players to elbow one of his team mates in the head and the ref will stop everything?
If the refs were stopping games every time a player went down, rolling around like they’d been shot, every EPL game would last for approximately 6 hours and nobody would bother watching it
#SlotOut 😂
You joke but there are lots of scousers on the internet saying exactly that, and not just on twitter where you find most of the nutters. Have to say I'm hugely enjoying Alexander Isak looking completely lost and bereft of confidence while his German replacement looks like a 6ft 6in Messi in comparison.
I always thought Isak to Liverpool was an odd move for Liverpool, it's not like they bought him to stop him going to City, Utd or Arsenal.
It has been notable in the European games this year that players are going down clutching their faces/heads for any minor contact, I am not sure what the solution is, its right that refs should treat potential head injuries seriously, but too many teams are deliberately trying to game that duty of care there does need to be some more severe punishment for simulation, maybe there can be some retrospective cards for simulation, I think it is to much to expect the ref to reliably judge it at match speed, but some are so obvious on the replays.
MOTD 2 made the valid comment that the Liverpool recruitment policy in the Summer was a top heavy and the goals against column so far would appear to confirm that. As we have noted with England managers, when you have a much larger pool of decent players to chose a team from it’s a matter of picking the best blend of players to play in a cohesive way rather than simply the eleven (or sixteen) best players. As for Man U, I’m not sure a corner has been definitively turned but up front they seem better able to keep hold of the ball and make something out of the possession.
Well, we’ll see as we’ve got Brighton next weekend and they’re a bloody good squad who’ve had a very good record against us for the last few seasons. They’ve given us a few kickings. They battered us 3-1 at Old Trafford last season.
Consistency has been our problem. We put in a good performance one week, then it’s back to being an absolute shambles 7 days later, hence this being Amorims first ever back-to-back win
So - it appears Sean Dyche is off to Forest. Do you reckon he has a plan and believes he can turn them around, or is he just thinking 'stuff this, I'll get paid a bit then get a massive pay-off when I inevitably get sacked by that idiot'.
Have to say I'm hugely enjoying Alexander Isak looking completely lost and bereft of confidence
+1
I haven't actually seen anything of him playing for Liverpool so far but it sounds like he's carried on in exactly the same way he played for us in the 10 premier league games after the cup final last season
Apparently Big Ange’s payoff for getting sacked was 7 million quid.
Not bad for a few weeks work.
Sean Dyche will probably take the job so he can get a similar sum in time for Christmas
Dyche similar style to Nuno. Organised, defensive, hoof it to the wide areas. It’s a good fit in terms of the existing squad I guess. Rumours on 5live this evening that the players told on Ange to Marinakis and got him sacked.
It's hard to see West Ham staying up, and the weird thing is I'm not even that bothered.
Dyche similar style to Nuno. Organised, defensive, hoof it to the wide areas. It’s a good fit in terms of the existing squad I guess. Rumours on 5live this evening that the players told on Ange to Marinakis and got him sacked.
Dyche would seem to be a better fit for the team/system that Nuno left than Ange ever was. Looking forward to being in the office tomorrow to hear the entitled Forest fans bitching that a club like theirs deserves nothing less than Pep or Klopp.
The key question is who will throw the first punch, Dyche or Maranakis. Strikes me as being a fiery combination that might be great or might turn into a soap opera script.
Nah Dyche sounds like a brawler but he'll keep his head down & crack on.
I think the Hammers are done for - wonder if Nuno will last as long there as Ange did at Forest.
Ange will be in charge at West Ham before the end of the season - he plays the West Ham way
Not a good look for Slot when he is blaming his woes on how other teams play - the low block and the temerity to play long balls.
That is what Pep has faced for years and one of the main reasons some of City's football lacked excitement at times. Slot was very fortunate to join Liverpool when the main issue that hampered Klopp in latter seasons - aging midfielders who no longer had the legs - had been solved by the previous Summer's spending. He won the title with a points total that would not have been enough in any season bar 2017 (Leicester 81 points) and 2011 (Man United 80) since 2003.
Slot has been anointed by the media as some sort of genius and that led to him being handed an incredible war chest which may prove to have been an error. For the first time he is under pressure and his big, established players are looking their ages.
Glad to see the lozenger dodger back in the prem league but cant help feeling its not the manager who's the problem.
This seems especially fitting, given the thread title this season
BBC News - Meet the Sunday League team with 1,800 Premier League appearances - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2emr7per0mo
Ere that Rashford looks a bit of a player - would love to see him in the Prem.
On a more serious note - delighted to see that the Spanish footballers protest at the weekend (not doing anything for 15 seconds after kick off) has led to them dropping the ridiculous notion of playing a league game in Miami.
That was a powerful display by Arsenal, if predictable. Keep it tight, score via set piece etc. But they rammed home their dominance thereafter.
Chelsea absolutely wiped the floor with Ajax.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I see Isak's dodgy groin* has done its thing again. Couldn't happen to a more deserving player. Probably a good thing for Liverpool TBH, they'll do better now.
*or is it a chronic case of CBA?
rammed home their dominance thereafter
steady on now, this is a family website
@dazh - Isak needs to be 100% to perform. He has had numerous issues with his groin and never looks on form when coming back or just before he's off for a few matches.
Clearly demonstrated by his start to this season.
His problems are mounting as the pressure on him to perform is only going to increase.