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That doesnt sound offish to me, if it gets you mobile for 12/24 months and helps in any way i would say its done its job.
Keep it for a year then get rid, once you get back on your feet again.
Dont think anyone will think anything other than that.
Its a short term measure to assist in the immediate future, which I’m sure it’ll do admirably.
But sure you’ll get a year out of it, maybe pass it on to someone in a similar position next year.
if you can get 12 months ticket and all safe and reliable without spending silly money then that would be great.
Ditto to the above. And it will help you to build up a no claims bonus.
Yes agreed, old cars are a lottery. I small bump thats not your fault and it will be written off, you will get next to nothing. Just enjoy it while its going. The underside does look bad tho, ours is mint but had an easy life in a garage.
I can honestly say I hadn't thought of it as a year or two car, I was thinking of it as a longer term car. Maybe that was over thinking it on my part. I understand what your all saying, and it does make sense. Hopefully it will be motable next year too without many issues, that would be great.
Sorry for the previous post, just a bit panicky after a really difficult and stressful day.
Thankyou all again. Your kindness and efforts are genuinely appreciated.
Damp patch on fuel tank. No idea what’s going on, garage told this to the wife, I didn’t get chance to look. Fine at the moment, may be an MOT issue in Feb, may be fine. (New fuel tank is about £80)
I had a Y reg yaris and the fuel tank was metal and rusty, but worse than that one, it also had a couple of patches where fuel was very slowly leaking through giving a damp patch. if it's not failed the MOT it'll be fine for a while and as above replacements aren't much, maybe have a look again after winter, mine got to the stage where you could smell the fuel standing near the car. The underside of mine was also very crispy but it had lived in Scotland for many years where the roads are mostly salt for half the year. Great little cars!
I might have a 55 polo going free in a month or two if you want a second set of wheels! It is also a bit crispy underneath and tbh I preferred the yaris.
I can honestly say I hadn’t thought of it as a year or two car, I was thinking of it as a longer term car.
TBH, whether it lasts six months or six years, it still resolves an immediate problem, n'est-ce pas? If and when it dies we can cross that bridge again.
As a friend of mine once said (in defence of a shedded Mk2 Escort), "second-class motoring is better than first-class walking."
Drive it until it needs work or fails it’s mot. At that point make the decision as to whether it is worth spending money on.
The answer will probably be ‘no’ but that decision point will be 3,6,9 months away etc. In the meantime you and the kids will have dry, warm relatively economical transport.
Also, two Yaris wheel trims on the way to Marko to hopefully replace the trashed ones.
I completely agree and feel foolish for my previous posts. Unfortunately, a difficult and stressful day all round and nothing today has been easy.
I am extremely grateful and will be glad of having the car as an option, especially with the winter months ahead.
As a friend of mine once said (in defence of a shedded Mk2 Escort), “second-class motoring is better than first-class walking.”
This is very true. I like that quote. I had a mk1 escort, it was my first car. Would love another one, best car I have had. On that subject, if anyone has a mk1 or mk2 escort lying around needing a home.....
Don't push your luck (-:
I don't think anyone thinks you're being ungrateful. Text is a difficult medium. Reading back, my post could be interpreted as implying that and that's not the case. Point was simply, run it into the blummin' dirt, it didn't owe anyone anything when it left its previous home.
+1 Cougar.
I didn't think for one moment that you're ungrateful. The car will see you through, and when it's cream crackered we will sort something else out.
Life is tough, I'm not experiencing what you're going through, but I have lost a number of close family members (both Mum and Dad in a short space of time plus aunties and uncles) so I can appreciate the pain you're feeling.
But from the pain comes hope - as each new day dawns the pain recedes a little. Bit by bit. Each day gets a little better.
I wish you luck my friend 🙂
I think we'd already established that it wasn't ideal for you (mainly a bit small) but was much cheaper to insure than Rich's Primera so entirely understand it being a short-term stop-gap.
The reason we got rid is that it wasn't worth spending nearly the value of the car to fix and it was becoming far too small for us with the arrival of the wee one. When it eventually reaches the end of it's time with you it would be great if you could pass it on to someone else, or post up here and see who knows someone who needs it, MrsH would love for it to become a 'good kharma car' and get passed around to whoever needs it. If there are kind people like Marko out there it hopefully becomes feasable to keep it alive, labout costs meant it wasn't worth us spending the required amount. She would be dead chuffed if we could type it's reg into tge online tax checker thing in four or five years time and find it still is going somewhere.
I have little to add to this that's not already been said, apart from "jolly good effort all those involved in the idea and the logistics, top work all around"
One brief thought for Mr Gnusmas, based on having owned an identical model a few years ago. If you're over 5ft 10in, and happen to be squatting down near the open tailgate, then stand up without looking carefully, it's all too easy to open your scalp up on a sharp corner of that tailgate. Just beware. (By 'squatting' in this instance, I mean I was wringing a sponge out in a bucket, not laying cable) Great little cars apart from that booby trap.
This is an amazing thread. I keep dipping in and feel a bit uplifted each time. People are good, especially here.
I bloody love our Yaris; comfy, reliable, great visibility and if you stay in gear and change quickly they're almost fast to 60.
Get under it with some underbody wax. Most parts, like bearings, can be replaced easily with scrap items from a donor car. Looks like this one has got a lot of salt on it. Give it a good wash underneath, inspect, undercoat and repair and you'll be grand.
OEM Denso plugs (very cheap), air/oil filter and new semi syn (consult the manual carefully, the oil spec/temp chart is backwards as hell) and the motor will sing.
Collected the parts yesterday.
Crikey Toyota bits are expensive! 2 springs and 2 front wheel bearings £206. These are quality ones - FAG and Lesjofers. (I don't fit the cheap junk supplied by a well known national parts chain BTW).
I'm trying to fit the work in around the day job, but I'm aiming to have it already by the end of the weekend at the latest.
Sits back and waits for 'I could have got then for half the price'. type comments.
Marko
Great work Marko. No-one will dare criticise your efforts whether they can buy the parts cheaper or not... You're doing over and above the normal
Morning all
Think I'm up for the Chepstow to Cardiff leg, sounds like Sunday or Monday evening might suit?
Marko - do you want to let me know when you're done and she's ready to roll again, and I can pick up and drop over to molgrips...
Big fan of decent parts here.
Question re the rust underneath though - would a coat of Waxoyl not help protect what's left?
‘I could have got then for half the price‘
Brother works for Toyota.. so maybe 😉 But no way I could've got them to you! More donations needed to the gofundme?
I'm going to chuck a couple of quid in the pot on Friday when i get paid.
How much would i cost to get the bottom waxed to prevent further rusty penetrations?
Yes, you could have got them much cheaper. But also probably not as good so hey ho.
Spawn, cost me £80 to get the underneath of a Transit waxoyled so I guess something a bit less than that.
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Reminder for all those who might need to drive it: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">AS OF TOMORROW, 18 OCT, IT WILL NO LONGER BE INSURED!</span> As I understand it, it has to be insured 'properly' somewhere for people to use their 'drive other cars' bit of their policy so this will no longer be the case, you will need specific insurance. Marko is covered to drive anything so that's fine (PM'd you regarding SORN)
'How much would i cost to get the bottom waxed to prevent further rusty penetrations?'
Nothing.
I've got some trade type stuff here somewhere I think. I'll do it if I have time - disgusting job though and the car will stink for weeks.
Nothing.
How about if i sort you a nice case of beer for all your efforts?
Re the insurance - any mileage in insuring it for Gnusmas wef Thursday, and that allows the rest of us to just use our own "drive another car" where applicable...?
I like the smell of Waxoyl, smells like traditional Nikwax or dubbin you put on boots. Marko's stuff may be different tho.
I don't mind applying it if you just toss the tin in the car Marko. Seems as if it might help.
It is in cans that fit a Schutz gun. So you'll need one of these and a compressor for the air.
(I need to find the cans yet though).
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Re the insurance – any mileage in insuring it for Gnusmas wef Thursday, and that allows the rest of us to just use our own “drive another car” where applicable…?
Don't know, would make it easier but because of this silly new continuous insurance rule we are going to have to declare it SORN, we''ll get a refund for November onwards, anyone who taxes it before 1 November will have to pay October again, stupid rule, means the government gets another month's tax out of anyone who buys another car. Anyway, not immediately relevant to insurance but if it's ready 31st/30th/29th... it might be worth hanging on a couple of days and saving a months tax.
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Brilliant news re decent parts, it's the same labour fitting cheap ones. Also, waxoyle is tops i get my cars done in uk.
Lawman - thanks or yaris boot tip, not happened yet.
Well done everyone concerned
Ha ha I'm 5-9 so never hit me head on the missus Yaris boot lid. We sold ours a couple of years ago having owned it since new in 1999 - 17 years old it was. Very few things go wrong on these cars.
It had had a water pump under warranty and that was it. The 'radio' stopped receiving FM etc, so I just swapped out the 'unit' for another via an ebay purchase (dash out job). 1 central locking motor went, off to the scrappy for a part. That was about it, other than services.
We sold it when the fuel pump went, but that only cost a couple of hundred for the local garage to repair (including their labour) and my missus wanted a bigger car.
No underbody corrosion, but I always rinsed the car off in winter (and we were not in scotland).
Coating the rusty bits should slow getting much worse. They are very reliable cars. The engines pretty much bomb proof.
get the bottom waxed to prevent further rusty penetrations
Best not get too distracted... 😳
The Primera has found a new home with an ex-mtber who's had a run of bad luck recently. I suspect it'll be still around in many years time.
Update on the repairs
Exhaust leak sorted. Before:
After:
Broken spring out:
Problem we have is the corroded nut on the bottom ball joint. I had to drag the complete arm out with the hub and then cut off the nut. The threads are all intact, but I think we'll need a new ball joint. Plus the anti-roll bar drop link is pants (I think he missed it on the MOT or decided it was OK).
Upshot is I might need to order up the ball joint and anti-roll drop links if I can't get them locally. This will alter the completion date.
Anybody used 'Mister Auto' for parts? Moog brand ball joints are £10.
Marko
Top effort Marko.
Awesome in fact.
👍
I have used Mister Auto for parts before on my old Renault Modus, never had any issues with them stuff has turned u when its supposed to and in good order.
Had MOOG parts as well which seem decent enough, my preference for droplinks and the like is the MEYLE HD.
Just caught up on this. Fantastic story and well done to everyone for helping out here!
I had to hunt a bit for the gofundme page so here is another link
https://www.gofundme.com/wheels-for-gnusmas
Top job, Marko and great to have photos of progress!
It is in cans that fit a Schutz gun. So you’ll need one of these and a compressor for the air.
I have neither of those things. Anything I can borrow or I could look at ebay maybe.. Or I could just buy a few spray cans of Waxoyl myself.
Quick update from this end for anyone who might need to drive it - <span style="text-decoration: underline;">THE CAR IS NOW SORN</span>
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I am slightly concerned that we were driving around with a broken spring and didn't notice! When the rear one broke a couple of years ago it was the banging sound rather than any sort of iffy handling which gave the game away. How can I not notice these things? Is this normal or is it just me (and MrsH?)
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Anyway, top work Marko. Fingers crossed for the emissions test now the exhaust is sorted. It always had plenty of margin previously so can't see there being any problems, but as just discussed I may not always be aware of them...
[EDIT] Must have been TJ or Chew, it was fine when it left here 😉 If in doubt, pass the buck!
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Easily done. I had two broken and didn't notice, although I did notice all the signs separately and didn't put them all together.
I heard a loud spang, then another some months later, but thought I'd just hit a stone or something. Then I noticed that the rear wheels looked a bit low in their arches, but still wasn't sure why. Then the rear tyres developed a whining noise, cos the inside edge became saw-toothed. Eventually, about 3 MOTs in a tester eventually picked it up.
Broken springs are very common and invariably they break at the top coil so hard to see/detect. In fact a lot get missed because only the MOT guy with a torch ever goes up there.
I had two go on my hardly used roadster last year (it is now 14yrs old, so hey) and before that I had a series of A Class Mercs for the wife that the springs were made of chocolate swirls covered in rust coloured paint and had two full sets in one year! (All replaces FOC by Merc, rightly too)
Potholes innit.
Anyway, this story has to be one of the best stories on STW. Heartfelt thanks from me, to all involved however large or small capacity.
It wisnae me! 😉
Marko - top work!
Top job...this is better than wheeler dealers
Holy shit! How have I missed this thread? What page is the go fund me link on? This place never ceases to amaze me. Big virtual hug to everyone of you.
Is anyone else getting a total man crush going on Marko? I mean, top dude.
LINKY FOR DONATIONS
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LINKY FOR DONATIONS
Quick update from this end for anyone who might need to drive it – <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>THE CAR IS NOW SORN</span>
Just a bump
Potholes innit.
That is literally what suspension is for, it should be able to cope 🙂
On the Waxoyl:
I don't think this is actually worth the effort. This is a car that needs driving until the next MOT, putting in for a new MOT when the current one expires, assessing the work required and then doing the maths.
On the springs:
It might be an urban myth, but they break more these days because of the amount of recycled steel in them. Nothing to do with pot holes. True? False? Myth?
Springs are unlikely to be affected by recycled steel (awaits a resident materials engineer to confirm or refute this) as they need a certain hardness to do their thing.
Most likely the state of the roads or one of the drivers ragging it around 🙂
Our work Vivaro has a regular replacement for front knuckle joints, made of cheese and thumped through holes by our resident Timo Makkinen.
It's like DIY SOS this place! A massive pat on the back to all concerned in making this happen. It restores your faith in human nature and I can't think of a more appropriate beneficiary.
Gnusmus, you really do deserve a bit of good fortune and I hope this car helps in whatever way to help you through these tough times.
Donations have just hit £1000!
Marko, keep us posted on how the budget is going please?
SP
Nice work Marko - after you've finished that perhaps some work on a new car would be nice!...
thanks for posting the link to the donations page, couldn't find it in this, or t'other thread.
Marvellous effort folks, great stuff.
Now you tell me....
You could tell something wasnt 100% but still totally driveable. Hopefully its all fixable.
Anyone noticed this
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201810171574462?make=TOYOTA%26model=YARIS%26utm
😀 just a joke!! Sorry!
26 model? It's all about 27.5 and 29 these days Dez.
Where's the car now?
Trying to get things tied together and organised:
The car is currently with marko, being repaired, in Chepstow.
Once the work is complete (and it seems to be moving on apace) we need to get it to Gnusmas or vice-versa.
Molgrips has offered to get the car from Chepstow to Cardiff.
I can get Gnusmas to Cardiff.
I am available from 3:00PM most days and half-term is soon although I have a load of commitments I cannot get out of, sorry.
Insurance is running out soon.
Gnusmas needs to arrange childminding etc.
Can I suggest that we work for a handover in Cardiff in the evening of either Wednesday 24th or Thursday 25th October. Venue to be confirmed, hopefully involving pies and cider.
Ambrose
Marko, presuming you work in a garage, which one? I grew up in Chepstow (prob rode bikes with you too if you were riding in that area in the 90/00’s!) and my parents are still there. When I visit next, if I can I’ll swing by with some beers/cake/biscuits.
Top work everyone.
Update number 2.
Sorted most of the work now. I bit the bullet and ordered up the additional parts locally, as I need to get the Yaris sorted before next week. More expensive than mail order, but earliest delivery was the middle of next week.
Both bottom ball joints replaced as I couldn't get the hubs in the press with the lower arms attached. And the anti-roll bar drop links disintegrated when I removed the control arms.
MOT retest later today and then I'll have a look at the 12v socket and central locking at the weekend.
Full portfolio of invoices and pictures to follow.
Alpha1653
Working on the drive at home. I stopped working on the Spanners full time years ago, but I ran my own classic back street garage in Bristol for years. I sit here and write about them now. I'm more Tintern than Chepstow BTW.
Then make it a slab of cake and a cuppa from the Filling Station near the Abbey! I’m up around there every now and again so I’ll see if you want to pair it with a bike ride.
Thankyou, just thankyou. Thankyou all so much. All this is unbelievable and means so much to me.
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I'm in Amsterdam Tuesdays to Thursdays currently. I get back home about 6 on Thursdays so I could handover after that but there's unlikely to be much time for a social. But I also have to collect the car.. I was hoping that we could do something on the weekend?
I'm also available some evenings for car collection/delivery, if it helps...
You could bring it to mine if you like. I may not be here but you could leave it parked up.
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insurance ran out yesterday, so the car is now SORN. It might even be worth waiting until Nov 1st so that it can be taxed and insured without having to pay a month's tax just to cover a few days
Happy to do that, molgrips.
@marko - could you let us know when it will be ready? I could do Sunday or Monday evenings?
Ah, forgot - we need to sort tax and insurance before the next leg.
Who's holding the purse strings?
^^That will be me. I am waiting for TJ and Marko to give me numbers and then I will know what can go to tax/insurance. The pot is currently £990 after the processing fee gofundme apply^^
Could it to be towed to Cardiff? If left early on a Sunday morning would miss most of the traffic.
Alternatively I am in Chepstow and would be happy to go and collect Molgrips from Cardiff if the car was insured ready to drive.
Sounds like there are plenty of options to get it to Cardiff, we just need to sort the tax and insurance.
Is it @ambrose who knows Gnusmas? Can we find out the cost of the tax/INS in his name, so we know what we need?
If it's a weekend I might as well ride to Tintern and get the car. Nice spin out at this time of year especially.
I get what's being said about the insurance and tax and starting it from next month and sounds like a good idea. But, if it needs to happen before then that is fine also. I need to arrange someone to be with the kids for the evening so a lot also depends on friends working.
As far as costs go, don't know about tax yet, but a quick quote on compare the market showed the cheapest was around £480 for the year. I will get a proper quote with the number plate. I need to put an insurance start date on it too. A lot of things to be worked out to make the final stages of this happen.
Lean on your friends, Gnusmas, I think I can say for everyone here that we'll happily help organise stuff with/for you...
Looked up and tax is £155/yr or £13.56/mo if paid monthly.
IDK if there's any technical reason why I couldn't - but if it is possible I'll tax it monthly for you for the first year. Or if I can't and you have to do it, send bank details and I'll set up a SO for the same amount into your a/c so it can then go out again.
I'm not good with spanners, too far away to help with logistics, but I can forego 3 pints a month.
I do wish there were "like" buttons for posts! I've been following this and thinking what a fantastic bunch of people there are on here. I'm over t'other side of the country so unable to help, but well done everyone! Brilliant stuff!
Soom extra footage from TJ's delivery run.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ben-reid-spindrift-propain-enduro-video.html
So... If an artwork of this magnificent VOTGM were to be made ...
The Yaris would figure prominently, along with pies. And a star in the sky, of course.
What would you suggest?
PS, Binners rocks! Just sayin'
Update Number 3
Car now has a new MOT.
I just ran out of time today to fix the 12 volt power outlet. Nearly there fitting a USB socket to replace the old style fag lighter type socket. I'll put the radio etc back in tomorrow and it will be then good to go from around noon?
I've replaced:
Both from springs.
Both front track control arm ball joints.
Both front wheel bearings.
Both front ant-roll bar drop links.
Both rear tyres
USB socket.
12 month MOT.
I might get a chance to look at the central locking tomorrow.
Can whoever is in charge of the fund please email me (email in profile) and I'll scan in the receipts for the parts and MOT and send them over.