[Closed] The ultimate NIMBY?

People in my village campaigned to have the yorkshire air ambulance moved from our local airfield due to noise disruption.

Baffles me when i see things like this and the school above.

Song abour similar people

THere are occasions when eff off you effing mingebag should be the correct legal/technical response from official bodies

Easter Soccer....what day was the complaint about. Sunday?

Residents near us once complained about the match day crowd at the local rugby club. Didn't they notice the enormous rugby club when they bought their houses or did they think it was a just a nice big lawn with a couple of stands?

Pillocks.

You cannot live next to a school and object to noise

The best I heard was woman complaining about an unsightly wind turbine that had been sited atop of Europes biggest rubber factory - it spoiled the view apparently.

When I lived on my boat someone bought a canal side property and then came to complain about my boat being parked on the canal and my car being on the road - they had not though that purchase through. interestingly they also said it ruined the view - my car was parked in front of a protaloo!!! Mt belly laughing at them did not help diffuse the situation

Residents near us once complained about the match day crowd at the local rugby club. Didn't they notice the enormous rugby club when they bought their houses or did they think it was a just a nice big lawn with a couple of stands?

Last time I was there I spotted cones outside a couple of houses. Maybe they were waiting for delivery of skips too?

Some years ago a local farmer received a noise complaint from a newly moved to the area city type who found the moo-ing of his cows troublesome.

I seem to remember it made it as far as court before being thrown out.

Some years ago a local farmer received a noise complaint from a newly moved to the area city type who found the moo-ing of his cows troublesome.

I seem to remember it made it as far as court before being thrown out.

Oh pull the udder one..........

Some years ago a local farmer received a noise complaint from a newly moved to the area city type who found the moo-ing of his cows troublesome.

I seem to remember it made it as far as court before being thrown out.

Some people will cause a beef over anything.

Our local pub (that's been there for well over 100 years) keeps having to deal with noise complaints from folk who have recently moved in. To the point that after 930 patrons who are drinking outside on a summers eve will be thrown in to the pub. Because the doctor over the road has an early start.

Reminds me of the guy who's bought a flat near Manchester's Night and Day live music venue.... and complains about there being live music at night.

Croft Race Circuit has had to dramatically reduce it's number of race days and track days because of newcomers to the area complaining about noise. They move next to a race circuit - what do they expect?!

Some people will cause a beef over anything.

Yes, but there is a lot at steak.

Some bits of the story are really intriguing:
a) that a Councillor was supposedly involved in the complaint - and has not been named and shamed (yet)
and
b) the staff running the event for the kids did not feel in a place or supported enough where they could tell mrs_miggins_NIMBY to do one.

A few years back now they tried to get permission for a skatepark & trails/jumps near us. Despite the site being directly under a 70mph flyover, adjacent to a large sewage works and a main line railway and no less than 150m and four lanes of 40mph traffic away from the nearest dwelling, somehow the plans were objected to by 'local' residents on grounds of noise. 😆

That was way back though, similar (no, bigger and better) plans for same location are progressing nicely now. 😀

Oh and the residents of a new and 'a bit' nice (ie houses sell for 30% more than equivalent size houses nearby but not exactly posh) estate, built a full thirty years after the primary school it is situated next to are always complaining about the noise and parking of the school that was clearly there before anyone put a spade in the ground let alone when they moved in. In fact two or three of them went there as children.

Noise is the industry I currently work in. All new developments (or change of use) should have a noise impact assessment done by someone like me. However in my experience these are rarely acted upon or even read. They're merely a box ticking exercise. Anyone can do one so the depth and quality can vary. There also isn't a robust method of assessment, although work is being done on this but will probably end up being watered down to the point of being useless

*cue a career guidance thread to be started by me shortly!

[quote=julianwilson ]A few years back now they tried to get permission for a skatepark near us. Despite the site being directly under a 70mph flyover, adjacent to a large sewage works and a main line railway and no less than 150m and four lanes of 40mph traffic away from the nearest dwelling, somehow the plans were objected to by 'local' residents on grounds of noise.
That was way back though, similar (no, bigger and better) plans for same location are progressing nicely now.

is that marsh mills?

Whispers of drug dealing and muggings from old retired angry-types probably stopped it.

Some friends who live nearish us were told by the Council of plans to bring in free (FREE) residents only parking which would stop Man U fans block-parking in their area/etc on match days.

A couple of angry old bloke-types thought there was a hidden agenda and the scheme for their area was cancelled. Thus keeping match days-chocker.

Ours went ahead and its brilliant.

Hora, who was there first? Man Utd or you/your neighbours?

jam bo -yes.
Although now i think about it, it has gone a bit quiet since they finished consulting on it in Plympton (library) a couple of summers ago. Lots of the other smaller improvements have happened or are happening like the legs of the main line railway bridge over the Plym being done up, those funny heritage trail signs and the flood defences towards the campsite, much of the site is now cleared (other side of the railway from old step-ups and current dirt 'jumps') but on reflection that might have been for works access when they were fixing the railway bridge: no trail digging there yet.

I worked in a factory many moons ago which was situated on the edge of an industrial estate. Houses were built the other side of estate fencing a whole 5 years after the factory was built. The residents then complained about the noise we were making. 🙄

Hora, who was there first? Man Utd or you/your neighbours?

Man United is 1.2miles from my house. Tight wads would park anywhere that was free. Blocking residents access, drives even etc etc.

So should a sports venue have >2mile radius ownership/ability to spoil the area for everyone upto twice a week dropping takeway boxes, cans in distance streets and pissing against walls?

Thought not. Trafford Council drove the initiative. That says something.

Or the lady who used to complain about the light pollution the distribution centre I worked at caused. Her bedroom faced the rear doors of the warehouse that had to be lit up. Not only was the industrial estate there a long time before the houses but behind the warehouse was a motorway with more, much brighter lights.

When the warehouse manager got sick of the complaints he asked if he could pay for a blackout blind for her. Turns out she likes to sleep with the curtains open as she prefers it.

Turns out she likes to sleep with the curtains open as she prefers it.

Thats me, I love being woken up by natural light/blue skies

I worked in a factory many moons ago which was situated on the edge of an industrial estate. Houses were built the other side of estate fencing a whole 5 years after the factory was built. The residents then complained about the noise we were making

This is a prime example. It's not the fault of the residents, it's that of the local authority allowing either the housing to be built there in the first place or not ensuring a noise barrier or similar is put in place. A noise impact assessment was probably done (although may not have been) but then ignored.

failedengineer - Member
Croft Race Circuit has had to dramatically reduce it's number of race days and track days because of newcomers to the area complaining about noise. They move next to a race circuit - what do they expect?!

People a few doors up the road objected to our plans to build a single-storey extension at the back of our place because "it would spoil our view". Your view of what? Our house? Needless to say, their objections were ignored. 😀

Friend dealt with a couple who complained to the planning department about a ferry terminal next to their block of flats - apparently they 'had not been aware' when purchasing the property that it adjoined the terminal and wanted action taken to reduce vessel noise and disturbance.

Terminal had been running for 160 years

I live in a street just down from a school. I have no issue with the school.

The oblivious parents pissing about on their iphones while driving their 4x4's with complete disregard for anyone caught under their wheels is a different matter

Croft Circuit came to mind too.

Man United is 1.2miles from my house. Tight wads would park anywhere that was free. Blocking residents access, drives even etc etc.

So should a sports venue have >2mile radius ownership/ability to spoil the area for everyone upto twice a week dropping takeway boxes, cans in distance streets and pissing against walls?

Dont get me wrong I would not like it but this is sort of the point. Its not a new thing you are objecting to its just new that you have been there.

Croft Race Circuit has had to dramatically reduce it's number of race days and track days because of newcomers to the area complaining about noise. They move next to a race circuit - what do they expect?!

It's not as simple as that.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/4076123.Croft_Circuit_loses_noise_appeal/

The objection by the Watsons and Mrs Wilson was not to car and motorbike racing events, which take place on the track on about 45-50 days-a-year, but to "vehicle testing days" and "track days", when members of the public drive cars around the track all day long at high speed.

Same issue over at Mallory park

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=42&t=1356798&nmt=RE%3A+New+operator+for+Mallory+Park

Read the comments from the dyed-in the wool petrol-heads. A lot are with the "Nimbys".

A friend at the council is dealing with someone who has been complaining about the larger numbers of native birds waking her up in the morning. Being that she lives next to a wildlife sanctuary that has been there for 14 years dedicated to breeding native birds must have escaped her attention. He says she is absolutely oblivious to the fact that when she bought her property she might have wanted to think about that.

Let's not forget the sanctimonious Sting. Who complained about the noise of planes flying out of boscombe. The RAF had been there long before him.

Let's not forget the sanctimonious Sting. Who complained about the noise of planes flying out of boscombe. The RAF had been there long before him.

Really?! Sod all used to fly out when I lived/worked their.

Guess the flights don't have to be that frequent for Sting to get annoyed.

Nothing worse than being 7 hours into a serious bit of tantric trouser maneuvers only to have a tornado come over just as you're approaching Billy mill roundabout.

I bet that they did a few low ones over his house once they knew that he didn't like it.

The local primary is only a few hundred metres from our house. Our two children used to go there and some of their classes were in Portakabins. Cold and leaky in the winter and they had been in situ for over a decade.

They replaced them with a permanent brick structure however a neighbour asked me to sign a petition because you could see the single story structure from his house about 60m away over his back fence.

I must have upset as he has never spoken to me since. The t***

Similar to the Sting story was Patrick Stewart having a minor grump about his house in the Dales being affected by aircraft entering and exiting Wensleydale in the early 90s.

Didn't take long for the pilots to work out where he lived and fly just that little bit closer... Probably why the RAF only have 4 and a half planes these days.

Probably why the RAF only have 4 and a half planes these days.

Photon torpedoes?

Didn't take long for the pilots to work out where he lived and fly just that little bit closer

Seriously?

😆

Let's not forget the sanctimonious Sting. Who complained about the noise of planes flying out of boscombe. The RAF had been there long before him.

Should have just been happy that he moved in after the Vulcans moved out!

I done a bit of motocross back in the day, and that sport has been devastated by this issue - tracks, even long-standing, well established tracks, have been shut down all over the shop. The pity of it is, they don't normally get massive amounts of use (I'm hazy on this but think there's a 12 day annual limit on using the land for that kind of thing, I dunno, without planning permission or something).

In all fairness, the sport didn't help itself because there was a big push towards four strokes mebbe ten or twelve years ago, and the noise from them things travels further - especially the earlier ones that weren't as well silenced, and before noise was so clearly such an issue.

Also have a very shady recollection of a race track (Cadwell springs to mind) that faced closure or restriction based on noise complaints from a family (or relative of a family) that moved to the area because one of them WORKED at the circuit. Crazy.

You're all wrong. Noise/light/smoke is either a public nuisance or it isn't. It doesn't matter when the people affected by it became affected by it. You wouldn't put up with a neighbour treating you badly just because the old sucker put up with it.

built a full thirty years after the primary school it is situated next to are always complaining about the noise and parking of the school that was clearly there before anyone put a spade in the ground

Thirty years ago, yeah - last week? Not so much.

My "neighbour" appeared at my door about a month back asking me to sign a petition to stop them building houses in the field behind the field opposite my house.

I said well 2 things , i dont think i have a right to sign that as i did my research before i bought and those plans were lodged before i bought and 2. i think it will be good for the area as it will bring in services - the builders have been told they have to bring in mains sewarage from the village(communual) septic tank atm for us , new water mains and upgrade the electrics as the transformer on a pole is at the end of my drive and is strained with just the 15 of so houses we have on it ....

Im not entirely sure he was actually a neighbour as ive never seen him before and like i said there are only 15 or so of us....

Tbh i thought this was going to be about the land owner chunt in stirling putting up screw topped fences to keep folks off his estate. Dick

I used to work at a national sports stadium, which was established well over 100 years ago. It used to take over 140K fans (wikifact)and now does around 52K. Depsite the stadium predating all of the local residents many still called the stadium each and everytime there was a match or concert to complain about the noise!

A local nightclub thats been there since the 1970's had various nights ruined as it was deemed too noisy.. by the (probably deaf) residents of the old peoples home newly built behind it.

Quite a common one that. Ooh, it's a great, vibrant, city centre location, let's buy the flat opposite the club and then petition to have it closed down 😈

See: Ministry Of Sound

Yes, but there is a lot at steak.

Stop milking it...

A friend at the council is dealing with someone who has been complaining about

I used to work for the council parks department, and couldn't believe the number of complaints people made about crazy things like "the tree over the road from my house is dirty", or "the leaves are landing on my lawn", etc, etc. Every one required investigation, visits, and so on, it just sucked up so much time and money. Then there were the serial complainers who were basically full time finding things to complain about. Bit sad really.

I done a bit of motocross back in the day, and that sport has been devastated by this issue - tracks, even long-standing, well established tracks, have been shut down all over the shop. The pity of it is, they don't normally get massive amounts of use (I'm hazy on this but think there's a 12 day annual limit on using the land for that kind of thing, I dunno, without planning permission or something).

I've taken up Enduro/hares and one thing that strikes me as odd is the disregard to noise by some people who turn up. There are time-limits when engines can be turned on yet quite a few take no notice of it and get warming up their engines on the limiter the moment they arrive. It's not like these courses are dedicated racetracks, they're private estates and farms.

I've also heard that noise wasn't really an issue until 4t became the norm; i'll take a lungful of 2t smoke over an earful of 450 4t fart-cannons any day.