[Closed] The Suarez nearest the bull ban length game

What is so particularly heinous about it?

If you have to ask - you're never going to understand the answer..... 🙄

edit: I'll try to explain. Biting is wrong - it's something animals do.

his grandmother, Lila Piriz Da Rosa, said her grandson had been treated like "a dog".

They put down dogs that bite.

If you have to ask - you're never going to understand the answer.....

edit: I'll try to explain. Biting is wrong - it's something animals do.

So is raking someone with your studs, kicking someone, elbowing someone etc etc, what makes biting so [b]heinous[/b] (your word) it needs to be treated in some special way.

It really is just an excuse to come over all outraged

A player will cheat in the final to get the winning penalty and they'll all be lauding his achievements!

Gordon Strachan has called it about right on Football...

“We give Uruguay/Liverpool stick about defending [Suarez], but every manager defends his player.

“People talk about morals – we don’t have any morals in football. Let’s get that right.

“Over the years I have played there has been wife-batterers, drink driving incidents, infidelity, Eric Cantona jumping into the crowd and kung-fu-ing someone in the chest.

“The clubs stand by them.

“The supporters themselves, when these guys come back, they stand up and applaud them on the pitch.

“So don’t anybody start talking about morals – we don’t have any in football.

I'm not outraged more than with any of the other bonkers things that happen in football. But this is clearly THE most bonkers, as the other stuff is normally explicable for whatever reasons eventually. The whole thing just really intrigues me.

To me, the biting is as totally fruit-loop as walking up to someone random and gaving them a wedgie! Or a Chinese burn. Its just completely hat-stand behaviour.

I sometimes suspect he's some form of elaborate installation artwork, and social experiment, rolled into one. The whole thing is just decidedly odd

“We give Uruguay/Liverpool stick about defending [Suarez], but every manager defends his player.

“People talk about morals – we don’t have any morals in football. Let’s get that right.

“Over the years I have played there has been wife-batterers, drink driving incidents, infidelity, Eric Cantona jumping into the crowd and kung-fu-ing someone in the chest.

“The clubs stand by them.

“The supporters themselves, when these guys come back, they stand up and applaud them on the pitch.

“So don’t anybody start talking about morals – we don’t have any in football.

If that's an accurate quote, amen to that.

Don't get me wrong, I abhor biting in any sport, and it does "seem" worse than a dodgy tackle, but the levels of hypocrisy shown in the outrage, especially of players like Mills and Shearer who were dirty bastards when they played (although, Shearer was targeted by every defender he came up against so had to stick up for himself...which is some kind of mitigation) and moreso on this thread, using it as a platform to slag off the team who employs him with faux-apoplexy and ridiculous melodramatic over-statement is hilarious.*

* not in a funny ha-ha sense.

I think Uruguay were getting stick because they denied it even happened. Liverpool didn't defend him when he did it to Ivanovic. He apologised to Ivanovic and Brendan Rogers said he had let down everyone and that he owed it to the club and supporters to prove his worth and change his ways. Which up until Tuesday, he had done quite well.

I must admit I applauded Eric Cantona for kicking the Palace prick. You often hear of people saying about footballers "if he did that in the street......." Well if you stood there verbally abusing someone in the street, you may well get a kicking. It's the same to all these fragile supporters that make complaints about players sticking their fingers up at them or celebrating in front of them when they've been hurling abuse at them all game.

Worse he wasn't even provoked just bit the defender for no reason at all.

I just can't see how you can defend a guy who has no bitten 3 people on the pitch, it's just wrong.

Worse he wasn't even provoked

Did you watch the game? He'd been provoked all game, just not in that instance. Which is strange really - one would never expect the Italian football team to employ such tactics...they've never really done that kind of thing. Provocation is no excuse, of course, unless it's a supporter hurling abuse...it seems.

I just can't see how you can defend a guy who has no bitten 3 people on the pitch, it's just wrong.

I haven't seen anyone defending it, per se. I see some people trying to see through all the faux-outrage and melodramatic ranting though.

If Suarez had just turned round and punched him, there'd have been much less outrage. Yes, it may still have been wrong of him, and yes, he'd have still got a suspension, but I personally don't feel it would have caused as much controversy. The biting thing is just, well, weird. Sorry I can't come up with a more descriptive way of putting it, but it instils a kind of revulsion, a WTF response when you see it.

I must admit I applauded Eric Cantona for kicking the Palace prick.

Same here. He was asking for it! Why the hell should he have to take that? He did it, and accepted the punishment he got for it. He's since always steadfastly refused to apologise for it, said he deserved it, and he'd do exactly the same thing again!

And it was worth him doing it just for this piece of enigmatic genius....

Compare and contrast.... 😀

Thanks for educating me you lot.

Interesting thoughts from those informed, me I don't follow footy, just suprised by the reaction(s) to this.

@MSP - those offenses are not condoned in rugby (nor is biting), there is a fairly long list of players with 3-6 month bans as a result and its common in rugby to cite players after the match based on video evidence. In fact the sport has special citing-officials who watch the video for that purpose. Football and footballers could learn a lot from Rugby in terms of conduct and respect for the officials.

If that's what Stachan actually said then I say "very well said sir".

using it as a platform to slag off the team who employs him

I see some people trying to see through all the faux-outrage and melodramatic ranting though.

FWIW I have no idea why it is so forbidden compared to the other things tbh but it is. Suarez and everyone else knows this. It may be a strange rule [ like the headbut one] but we all know it.
I am also struggling to name a player who has ever bitten another player never mind a three time offender

Football and footballers could learn a lot from Rugby in terms of conduct and respect for the officials.

How to use fake blood effectively being one of them then?

Rugbyists dont argue with the ref but they cheat at least as much.

Same here. He was asking for it!

Calling someone some naughty words does not merit a violent assault.

Calling someone some naughty words does not merit a violent assault.

While I admire your zen-like take on the world, if someone ran the length of a road to get up in my face and deliver a tirade of abuse at me, I'd say they wouldn't have many grounds for complaint if they got a slap for their trouble.

Bravissimo - You must have been watching a different match to me. The Italian defence weren't provoking him, they were doing their job. Pretty effectively, as it happens. He got no more grief than any other striker got in any other game. They weren't taking his legs out, putting in crunching challenges, or sneaky elbows, or owt. They were just stopping him playing.

Italian Team in Having a Quite Good Defence Shocka! Who'd have thought that eh?

Thats why the reaction is just so frankly bizarre.

I don't think anyone could argue with him retaliating, for me, it's not the retaliation, it's the biting thing. Christ, I applauded Cantona when he kicked that supporter, and would have been ok had Suarez just turned round and chinned the bloke. Either man up, chin him or walk away, don't bite somebody, for Gods sake. I'd expect it from a kid, but from an adult, not so much. I don't even see how he could claim it was done in the heat of the moment, seeing as how he's got previous, the slaaag 😮

While I admire your zen-like take on the world, if someone ran the length of a road to get up in my face and deliver a tirade of abuse at me, I'd say they wouldn't have many grounds for complaint if they got a slap for their trouble.

Except he didn't get in Cantona's face. We know this because Cantona had to leap into the crowd to get at him.

He ran down 11 rows of stands in the terraces screaming **** off back to France, you French mother****er [ you have intimate relations with your mother] allegedally

I am not defending what he did but lets at least describe it accurately

Cantona reacted like a silly child because he had been sent off. Let's at least describe it accurately.

Charlie bit me...

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For sure he was cross with the sending off and he is responsible for his actions childish or otherwise
Nonetheless had the fan not done what he did it seems unlikely Cantona would have randomally attacked someone.
Its worth noting the fan was also prosecuted and found guilty of using threatening language and behaviour for his role in the incident

Neither person behaved well that day.

I reckon much of the 'outrage' over this isn't so much because a single instance of biting is apocalyptically bad, but more that he's done it three times now, which might be seen as pushing his luck somewhat, plus doing unusual stuff at the WC finals (for example England winning a game) delivers a massive effect.

Also, his previous history of pisspoor behaviour at WC finals means that plenty of people are looking for any opportunity to enjoy a bit of karma in action.

Biting is like spitting it is just not acceptable or normal behaviour, even in a fight

*or more likely a road rager

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Take that you dishonourable Uruguayan bounder

27/06/2014

Now inside me there's no feelings of joy, revenge or anger against Suarez for an incident that happened on the pitch and that's done. There only remain the anger and the disappointment about the match.

At the moment my only thought is for Luis and his family, because they will face a very difficult period.

I have always considered unequivocal the disciplinary interventions by the competent bodies, but at the same time I believe that the proposed formula is excessive. I sincerely hope that he will be allowed, at least, to stay close to his team mates during the games because such a ban is really alienating for a player.

-[url= http://giorgiochiellini.com/site/newsdetail/Eng/My-words-after-Italia-Uruguay.html ]giorgiochiellini.com[/url]

Awwwwwwwwww bless

Its worth noting the fan was also prosecuted and found guilty of using threatening language and behaviour for his role in the incident

Neither person behaved well that day.

I'm not suggesting otherwise. Others however seem to think violent assault is an acceptable response to being called nasty names.

Its an instinctive reaction thing. Almost subliminal. You learn these things young. Depends on where you went to school, and what you get used too, I suppose? 😉

I'm not suggesting otherwise. Others however seem to think violent assault is an acceptable response to being called nasty names.

It wasn't that bad. He barely touched him. Now this is what you should do if someone calls you a nasty name.

I think he'd just called Lyoto a big fairy.
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Depends on...

How much of a keyboard warrior you are.

So is raking someone with your studs, kicking someone, elbowing someone etc etc, what makes biting so heinous (your word) it needs to be treated in some special way.

I wouldn't disagree with any of that re studs ,kicking etc, however biting breaks a particular part of moral & social code that the VAST majority find unacceptable....except you that is.

I can't help but wonder why?

Its an instinctive reaction thing. Almost subliminal. You learn these things young. Depends on where you went to school, and what you get used too, I suppose?

Yep, that's why every time a professional footballer takes a corner or throw in, he wades into the crowd to assault the people calling him nasty names.

Oh, wait.

The bullshit generator is kicking in early. Suarez to Barcelona, apparently.

except you that is.

I'd been following your discussion with MSP for a bit...can you point out where he said it was acceptable? I couldn't find that bit.

The bullshit generator is kicking in early. Suarez to Barcelona, apparently.

cannot see that he did actually bite the guy. He was going to but pulled out of it at the point of pushing his teeth against the guy and didn't clamp down. The guy of course made a big deal of it so Suarez felt he needed to do the same to counteract. If he had of told the truth at that point he would have go off a lot lighter.
LFC sell him - no way not for 100 million he's a genius and anyone who says diff is just jealous.

Others however seem to think violent assault is an acceptable response to being called nasty names.

Joepose such a weak troll and just as the thread ends

Junkyard - jealous
Bite has been digitally enhanced, there was bugger all when it happened. If the truth is weak so be it.

He was going to but pulled out of it at the point of pushing his teeth against the guy and didn't clamp down.

ah the Edinburgh defence, nice

Chiellini was mortally wounded Im sure, or was it just a few stiches or a mark that needed a bit of digital magic to stand out. Bring on the rugby world cup I say!

School holidays early in Liverpool this year?

Indeed. Manchester too I think.

Yep and in the FIFA HQ

This is what the victim of the bite has to say on the matter:

Now inside me there's no feelings of joy, revenge or anger against Suarez for an incident that happened on the pitch and that's done. There only remain the anger and the disappointment about the match.

At the moment my only thought is for Luis and his family, because they will face a very difficult period.

I have always considered unequivocal the disciplinary interventions by the competent bodies, but at the same time I believe that the proposed formula is excessive. I sincerely hope that he will be allowed, at least, to stay close to his team mates during the games because such a ban is really alienating for a player.

http://giorgiochiellini.com/site/newsdetail/Eng/My-words-after-Italia-Uruguay.html

This is what the victim of the bite has to say on the matter:

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/the-suarez-nearest-the-bull-ban-length-game/page/8#post-6121527 ]*ahem*[/url]

I struggle with long sentences. 😉

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I saw the change from what I wrote and thought it was pretty funny so left it. It reminds be of another forum where any reference to female genitalia was replaced with "bearded clam" 😀

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Suarez's own fault yet Uraguay is potrayed/the manager is behind him/the injustice.

Beckham does a little gay back kick and hes vilified as ruining Englands chances.

Its Suarez's own fault the pillock. If he believes he was wronged...he'll bite again

failed attempt, seems any one will do! team mate opposition he just wants to nibble

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I lost my balance, making my body unstable and falling on top of my opponent," wrote Suarez in his defence to Fifa.

"At that moment I hit my face against the player leaving a small bruise on my cheek and a strong pain in my teeth."

His comments to FIFA

posted two weeks ago...
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Indeed, it will all blow over eventually, although I'm pretty certain he will now go to Spain for a cut price £75m. It would have been around £90m before the bite![/i]

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