[Closed] The Suarez nearest the bull ban length game

So it sounds like it's 9 world cup matches so if Uruguay qualify for the next tournament he would miss some of that too from what the lady reading the statement was saying

good work FIFA! 🙂

Suspended for 9 world cup matches

And 4 months from all football!

Can't wait to see Gus Poyet's face when he's next on ITV. 🙂
Colombia will be pissing themselves over this.

Seems reasonable for a starting point, whens the rest of the ban desicion going to be made? 🙄

yeah but its suarez bite now not 'bite' so it must be true!

Must be lots of British media on the FIFA disciplinary board!

9 match ban from WC means qualifiers too I assume however given his age I cannot see him being at the 2017 quali's or 2018 WC - so band is meaningless outside the current tournament.

4 months from all football actually means 2 months of actual competitive season. Whilst banned from stadiums (so he cannot come to the knockout match and embarrass FIFA) I assume he can still train.

I think this is quite lame.

Is 4 months enoughto stop him from doing it again ?

How many matches will he miss?.... The world cup game ... OK ... then lets say his ban starts 1 july ... no matches in july or half of August... that leaves 2nd half of August then Sept and Oct.... So how many games is that 12/14 ???

Does seem enough to me ... if the last ban got him 10

what no anger management? what no therapy? its gonna happen again.. he cant help himself.. lucky the chinese never make the major tournaments as they'd be proper tasty..

It's all a bit fishy to me.. smacks of seb bladderism ( we dont need goal line technology)

Physchologist said he will always do this, the repeated offending shows it's pre-programmed. A response to stress and frustration. This is why he should banned and for life.

If ban starts today his 1st game for Liverpool will be 1st Nov. That seems enough to me.

HtS - So who was nearest the bull?

Physchologist said

One (or a few) psychologist saying it does not mean it should be taken as FACT, no matter how much you want it to be.

Banned from training too.

Back in time for Hallowe'en 😀

I think he needs to be made to wear a gum shield or similar to stop him/protect others..perhaps act as a reminder to him?

Not meaning to be an anti liverpool thing as I dont think he ever goes on the pitch wanting to hurt folk - unlike Roy Keane- he just does it and cannot help himself.

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So he misses 9 Liverpool games. Do they still have to pay him his salary during this time?

Seriously though; with all the corruption in world football, peoples killed during construction of stadia (due to poor working conditons and negligible concern for workers' safety) not to mention the enormous waste of money in a country where health care and education are desperately starved of resources, does it really matter that one overpaididiot bit anotheroverpaid idiot?

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Rol on Qatar 2022...

If it stays at 4 months he will miss approx 9 LFC league games, approx 3 Champions League & Maybe a cup game. 😐

Their placards are better spelt than most of the ones we get in the UK, maybe Brazil should be sending [i]us[/i] money to improve [i]our[/i] education?

Twas a mid-match snack, no more - Get over already

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Seriously though; with all the corruption in world football, peoples killed during construction of stadia (due to poor working conditons and negligible concern for workers' safety) not to mention the enormous waste of money in a country where health care and education are desperately starved of resources, does it really matter that one overpaididiot bit anotheroverpaid idiot?

Have you done anything to help the people of Brazil?

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I find it sad that companies are using this as an opportunity for advertisement. It's utterly bizarre and I've laughed at the GIFs and memes, but it is ultimately a man with some mental health problems and I think companies should be a bit more tasteful about it than some teenagers with photoshop and the internet.

timc - Member
If it stays at 4 months he will miss approx 9 LFC league games, approx 3 Champions League & Maybe a cup game.

Thats ok yeah? Isn't there a rumour knocking around about him being sacked from LFC?

HtS - So who was nearest the bull?

No idea. Can't be arsed working it out.

@bikebouy - they will never sack him, it makes economic sense. Sell him yes perhaps.

@chambord - zero sympathy for him, he's got more than enough money to pay for his own therapy and through all these incidents (3 bites and a racist slur) he's never truly admitted he was wrong or apologised

I find it sad that companies are using this as an opportunity for advertisement. It's utterly bizarre and I've laughed at the GIFs and memes, but it is ultimately a man with some mental health problems and I think companies should be a bit more tasteful about it than some teenagers with photoshop and the internet.

This. The situation could be used as a wonderful opportunity to highlight mental health issues, and football is an excellent vehicle for promoting ideas. Instead, everyone hs a cheap laugh and we ignore wht's important in our society.

but it is ultimately a man with some mental health problems

bollx.. He is an idiot with a bad temper. Some people hit, some kick, some spit, he bites. It doesn't mean he has a mental health problem. Th

"he's never truly admitted he was wrong or apologised"

^this is what really grates my helmetdale. Something so blatantly obvious in all instances with clear video evidence. Not even the decency to apologise. I hope he proves me wrong on this occasion but he seems to think he is bigger than the game and can just do as he pleases.

bikebouy - Member
Thats ok yeah?

What? Im just clarifying what games he will miss

bikebouy - Member
Isn't there a rumour knocking around about him being sacked from LFC?

Sack a £75m asset? you pissed? 😉

@bikebouy - they will never sack him, it makes economic sense. Sell him yes perhaps.

Nah. Sack him and take the hit to save face after backing him when he was being a racist shitebag.

He had been denying it because he was probably told that would be his best defence. He's a brilliant footballer but also a very horrible man. The celebration when Ghana missed the penalty which his blatant handball on the line has conceded, his racist comments and subsequently refusing to shake Evra's hand after his ban . the previous 2 biting incidents. Then after his fellow professionals and the UK press both make him the player of the year. So after he scores 2 against England, he says that it's payback for the disrespect that he's been shown by the English media.
He's just a horrible little shit.

I wonder what would happen if i walked into a competitors business and proceeded to bite somebody there on the shoulder... an assault charge followed by being sacked I imagine, unless they liked it 😉

The guy should be made to wear a muzzle while playing, that or just castrate him and see if that helps - they would do it to an agressive dog after all.

Awe I dunno, watched that comment on the BBC earlier this morning.. So he's worth, well was worth, £75m?
Noiice, shame he's devalued himself overnight.

WOuld a team really be interested in him now?

Just askin, pissed I'm not, I may write like I am though 😉

WOuld a team really be interested in him now?

Yes

He had been denying it because he was probably told that would be his best defence. He's a brilliant footballer but also a very horrible man. The celebration when Ghana missed the penalty which his blatant handball on the line has conceded, his racist comments and subsequently refusing to shake Evra's hand after his ban . the previous 2 biting incidents. Then after his fellow professionals and the UK press both make him the player of the year. So after he scores 2 against England, he says that it's payback for the disrespect that he's been shown by the English media.
He's just a horrible little shit.

+1.

A skilled player without doubt, but not a very nice person!

Surely he has massively devalued himself. A club pays millions because they want a player. evidence would suggest that he will carry on getting lengthy suspensions, that therefore makes him an expensive spectator.

And given that said clubs make millions from their sponsors, I doubt many will be wanting to be seeing him with their names emblazoned across his kit

I am especially glad of this outcome given all those surrounding the Uruguayan national team defending him and accusing others of having agendas and claiming pictures were Photoshopped.

I saw earlier that since august 2010 he's been suspended for a total of 34 matches and not once been shown a red card.

Perhaps they could all wear matching T-shirts sporting his image when they come out for the next match, as a sign of solidarity for their persecuted brother 😆

perhaps you should design them 😉

*fires up the Mac*

As a serious note though; that whole t-shirt 'he's not a racist' business left King Kenny looking like a prize plum, and I'd imagine Brendan Rodgers is presently feeling more than a tad miffed that he's been left looking a fool for all the support he's given him, only to have it thrown back in his face.

With that track record, what manager is going to want him on his squad now? Goal scoring prowess or not. Given his apparently limitless potential for leaving you looking like a right tool!

Unfortunately they are a little like women that date playerz.... They will think they can change him.

Remember - this is the PFA player of the year we're talking about here. I love the stunts that he pulls.

Every single manager in any league would still want him playing for them. He scores goals, goals win games. I don't agree with the logic but this is football.

Indeed, it will all blow over eventually, although I'm pretty certain he will now go to Spain for a cut price £75m. It would have been around £90m before the bite!

With that track record, what manager is going to want him on his squad now?

This is football you are talking about binners. There's not a manager in the premiership that wouldn't have him.

@binners his goals nearly won the PL for Liverpool, they knew he had that potential impact which is largely why they overlooked his racist / biting tendancies. They knew he was a biter when they signed him. As others have posted pretty much any club would gladly have him and try to manage the biting fall out.

they overlooked his racist / [s]biting[/s] tendancies

Had he had previous for racism?

I find it sad that companies are using this as an opportunity for advertisement.

I think Bill Hicks may have had a point

Given his apparently limitless potential for leaving you looking like a right tool!

Professional football doesn't seem (as an ignorant outsider) the most moral/altruistic/shining example of businesses

Professional football doesn't seem (as an ignorant outsider) the most moral/altruistic/shining example of businesses

I think how outraged/apoplectic/tumescent/aroused one gets depends a lot on the team for which the offending player plays and how you feel about that team.

wasn't there a city player who kept screwing up off the pitch, did he get dropped for embarrassment or did they keep him on/sell at a profit?

Which one? There are so many...

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wasn't there a city player who kept screwing up off the pitch, did he get dropped for embarrassment or did they keep him on/sell at a profit?

You can't compare Suarez to Super Mario. He was, and still is, a total nut job, who was pretty handy on the pitch. But he's genuinely, naively funny, and quite charming with it, whereas Suarez is just a thoroughly unpleasant human being

Randomly giving out money to strangers in Manchester city centre, entering random pubs and buying everyone a drink, setting fire to your house while letting off fireworks from your bathroom window, then turning up on spec to ask for a tour of a women's prison, is quite a bit different from racially abusing the opposition, then repeatedly sinking your teeth into people for no apparent reason, all while being thoroughly unapologetic for it all. If you wanted a suitable comparison, then the delightful and charming John Terry at Chelsea might be better. Another player thought of with warmth and affection throughout the land

@deadlarcy - I meant they didn't sell him on after the Evra ban

Guardian reporting that Suarez is not allowed to train with Liverpool under the terms of the ban. Interesting that meeting between players lawyers and club is in Barcelona

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/27/luis-suarez-ban-liverpool-legal-advice ]Grauniad[/url]

Randomly giving out money to strangers in Manchester city centre, entering random pubs and buying everyone a drink, setting fire to your house while letting off fireworks from your bathroom window, then turning up on spec to ask for a tour of a women's prison

And lets not forget the time his mum came to visit, and sent him out to buy some cleaning supplies, and he came back in hire van containing two mopeds and a trampoline.

Interviews with Liverpool fans on the BBC were hilarious, still supporting him like this wasn’t a big deal.

Strange people.

Interviews with Liverpool fans on the BBC were hilarious, still supporting him like this wasn’t a big deal.

Strange people.

I think there is a reasonable case to be made that while Suarez's actions are rather pathetic and embarrassing, there were more dangerous and violent actions even in that match. There has been a lack of perspective in the screaming moral outrage being made by many and lead by the media.

Fair point, well made.

But all of that angst on the pitch is normal, so is deemed normal, biting isn't normal.

Interviews with Liverpool fans on the BBC were hilarious, still supporting him like this wasn’t a big deal.
Strange people.

Its the persecution complex. They can't see past it. Alan Hanson said this morning on 5 Live that he should be told he has one absolute last chance, then thats it!

It was then pointed out to him that that was exactly what he said the last time it happened. 🙄

*sits back and awaits yet another angry response, by text or email, from Liverpool Fayns* 😉

@ MSP spitting in your face is not very dangerous either
Neither are the myriad of "headbuts" you see.
No one is saying he endangered anyone they are saying is that he deliberately bit someone for the THIRD TIME.

I think only Urugayians and Liverpool fas are defending/minimising this.

DD is right some are using tribal football reasons to attack him but he has issues with his anger/frustration.

@ MSP spitting in your face is not very dangerous either
Neither are the myriad of "headbuts" you see.
No one is saying he endangered anyone they are saying is that he deliberately bit someone for the THIRD TIME.

Exactly other rather unpleasant and pathetic but ultimately harmless actions that get moral outrage frothing over the top. Even when Roy Keane admitted deliberately breaking another players leg (although he later retracted his admission when he realised how stupid he had been in making it) there was far less outrage displayed.

You can't compare Suarez to Super Mario.

There has been a lack of perspective in the screaming moral outrage being made by many and lead by the media.

He's a repeat offender of a particularly heinous form of assault - I don't know why you can't understand this?

I say assault but you know what I mean. The point is he's got previous for biting - 3 times now & there's no place for that in sport. PERIOD.

Even when Roy Keane admitted deliberately breaking another players leg (although he later retracted his admission when he realised how stupid he had been in making it) there was far less outrage displayed.

While theres no way I'd endorse Keane's behaviour (who's also a pretty unpleasant individual), his actions involved what he considered revenge, in a spat that had history going back some time between the two of them. Also... he didn't repeat it three times.

The mystifying thing about the racist chompers behaviour is that its not like it was targeting someone who'd been rattling in heavy challenges on him all game. Or like Keane, someone who'd injured him in a previous game. His victim/lunch appeared to be selected entirely at random. Same as last time. And thats just weird!

MSP I am not agreeing with you 🙄
I dont think anyone can call being bitten or spat at "ultimately harmless" and well done for managing to have a go at a Man U player when we are discussing Suarez.
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Offers pathetic defence because he played for a team i support

His behaviour is indefensible unless you support one of the teams he plays for ...even then you need to have a word with yourself as your "loyalty" has broken your moral compass.

@binners - I think he just get's wound up and cracks. He was getting the (to be expected) rough treatment from the Italian defenders all match and Uruguay where going out at 0-0 and they couldn't make the 11 vs 10 men pay. He was getting the normal jostle for position and he just flipped out.

I also imagine Liverpool told him "absolutely last chance" last time.

I wonder what his contract says about being paid his wages if he's banned.

But Suarez isn't an embarrassment to Liverpool he is a disgrace. Liverpool's defence of him was awful last time, but then they do have a weird persecution complex.

Suarez and Gerrard both leave the world cup with their reputations ruined.

Still there are always winners in these situations and I bet Rickie Lambert is enjoying a celebratory drink tonight.

It's a tricky one. As has been said, on here and elsewhere (by no less of a paragon of virtue than joey Barton for one), biting someone is nowhere near as dangerous as some of the other stuff that happens such as over the ball leg breaking tackles. However, there's something so deeply taboo / disgusting about it, and spitting, that really causes such a response.

I mean you could call verbal abuse the same - doesn't cause any physical harm, and most players will have seen and experienced it enough times that they are relatively immune to it - but when racist abuse arises, then it again stirs a huge outrage.

The problem is not that biting, and spitting, and abuse are overpunished in comparison to physical offences; it's that the physical offences are underpunished. To many people there's a fine dividing line between an 'honest' British / PL style challenge that causes serious injury, and a malicious one. That's where i think we need a review panel of ex-players who are far more likely to know that a tackle was deliberate in its attempt to cause injury, and start handing out bans like the Suarez one for those offences too. 3 games is far too short for someone who has deliberately set out to injure a fellow professional in a way that has the potential make them lose their livelihood and all they've ever known and worked for in an instant.

I agree with MSP's point.

Completely over the top moral outrage.
Sportsman gets frustrated and reacts in a silly childish manner while playing a silly childish game with lot's of other silly childish sportsman. End of.

The ban seems fair.

Sportsman gets frustrated and reacts in a silly childish manner....

Good point.

...while playing a silly childish game with lot's of other silly childish sportsman. End of.

Oh. It was going so well 😥

To clarify. All sports are silly and childish (doesn't stop me loving many of them :oops:)

Interviews with Liverpool fans on the BBC were hilarious, still supporting him like this wasn’t a big deal.

According to the Grauniad, Liverpool are consulting their lawyers with a view to an appeal. FFS, he has got off pretty lightly. If you insist on employing such a deplorable specimen, at least take your punishment without whining!

Amen to that theotherjonv

Could we get you running the FA please?

Sportsman gets frustrated and reacts in a silly childish manner while playing a silly childish game with lot's of other silly childish sportsman. End of.

Perhaps if certain individuals hadn't been indulged like spoilt children in the past, and constantly allowed to do whatever they like without criticism from their [s]doting parents[/s] manager, their behaviour might have changed by now...

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I am not defending Suarez, and I don't support Liverpool or Uruguay, I am questioning the legitimacy of the outrage being displayed. It reminds me of the rugbyists taking the moral high ground while ignoring the stomping, raking and eye gouging in their own sport.

He's a repeat offender of a particularly heinous form of assault

What is so particularly heinous about it? It is pretty minor, just rather pathetic and unexpected. Honestly please explain it to me, what makes this so much worse than anything else?

According to the Grauniad, Liverpool are consulting their lawyers with a view to an appeal. FFS, he has got off pretty lightly. If you insist on employing such a deplorable specimen, at least take your punishment without whining!

It's probably the reverse of what you say. If the deplorable specimen is free to play domestic football, they can de-employ him for considerably more. If a successful appeal could be worth £20-30m extra in transfer fees, it's worth a stab, isn't it?