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Really? You are questioning my honesty because you are projecting your views onto football fans you’ve never met but I have?

56 years old and it’s happened to me countless times. “What! Really? You don’t like it!”, “But you must follow some team, where are you from” etc.

I was in the army for 23 years, posted to a new unit, going on a course etc. it was guaranteed I’d be asked within 5 minutes. I have genuinely been asked “what the **** is wrong with you”? or “are you some kind of (insert homophobic insult)” multiple times

It’s happened twice this week FFS which is why I posted it. Your not expecting others to like it is commendable, rejecting someone else’s experience out of hand because it’s not the same as yours and calling them a liar is not.

Fair enough then. You win. Have a nice (football-free) day.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:20 am
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I get a fair amount of what the OP is talking about.
I don't care one way or the other about football.
If someone likes it good for them if they don't also good for them.

I visit a lot of different factorys in a lot of different industrys up and down the country and always get the your lot played well/shit last night conversation starters.
Even from people that know I don't follow football.
Some of them just can't help themselves.
Some of them seem to genuinely not believe me that I don't follow a team.😂
I've had people say well you must at least follow a local team even if you don't like football?
Seems a little odd to me that they can't accept that someone doesn't follow the same sport they do.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:26 am
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Yup the worst thing is when you tell them you don’t like football they still talk at you about it


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:39 am
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I know someone who lost their job because they didn't like football. Their director said that you cant be a sales person and not like it !


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:43 am
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I walked out* of a job interview after 10 minutes due to the 3 interviewing me talking about football and asking me about my team

(*not really walked out, said thank you for their time and told them that I didn’t think the job was for me)


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:46 am
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I've no real interest, I'll happily go see a live game though when mates with season tickets invite. But I don't support a team or follow any matches, I'll only watch England if they get to semi finals - this really pisses people off.

I've better things to do with my time (like posting on MTB forums), than following that. I will religiously watch the MTB DH though which my football following friends think is nuts.... I just rattle off the UK wins that year and they shut up.

I went to uni in Exeter and watched a fair few live matches their as a mate had a house overlooking the grounds, so I usually tell people in a work situation I support them but don't follow it any more as I've moved away, usually gets them to shut up as they have no idea who plays for them and where they are in the tables, and I get respect for 'supporting' a smaller team.

I also don't drink so have little reason to watch it in a pub.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:48 am
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This:

Quite like playing it, no interest in watching it.

Don’t drink alcohol either which thoroughly confuses a large part of the population.

And this:

You should try living in Wales and not being bothered about rugby!

Have been to the odd rugby game and it just doesn't hold my interest. I only watch the Six Nations as to admit you don't here is akin to admitting some heinous crime!


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:49 am
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I bloody love football.

I’d rather remove my own kidneys with a teaspoon than watch a game of rugby

That interests me though.

Have you ever thought about why that is? Because at a purely mechanistic level in the big scheme of things (when compared to say ski jumping or cricket) they are incredibly similar. 2 teams of some people on a rectangular bit of grass trying to get a ball/vaguely ball shaped object to the opponent's end of said field with nothing but their bodies to propel it. To like one and hate the other to me is a bit like someone saying they love spag bol and loathe laragne.

It's even stranger when rugby league/union fans can't fathom the love for the other version.

It has to be down the tribal aspect or the intimacy with a known culture. If you LOVE football in this life but were reborn into a world without football but rugby still existed I can't imagine you wouldn't gravitate to that if the actual game was the most important aspect of your current attraction.

To that end I bet a lot of us who 'don't get' football largely came from non football households. It was never ingrained in us. Exceptions to every rule but it does seem not dissimilar to religious indoctrination. Most Jews were born into Jewish families and most Liverpool fans grew up with a Liverpool supporter father.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:58 am
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You on the other hand, as is clear from your wise and incisive words are incredibly interesting

Well, I at least can have a conversation with some-one based around what interests them rather than me. If that's football, cool. I'm not a huge fan, but I'm also not self centered enough to realise that regardless of my opinion of it, it's still pretty popular, and as binners points out, imagine! The trauma of some-one engaging you in conversation...Oh the horror!

Mleh, everyone's different (shocker), but this strikes me as particularly idiotic. It's like Judge Pickles asking "Who are the Beatles?"


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:05 am
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Most Jews were born into Jewish families and most Liverpool fans grew up with a Liverpool supporter father.

& most Man Utd fans were born in Surrey


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:06 am
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& most Man Utd fans were born in Surrey

For that very reason I didn't say most Man Utd fans were born within sight of Old Trafford!

My father was actually born within earshot of Old Trafford but his father didn't like football and never took him. And my father never took me as he had no interest and I too have no real interest.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:12 am
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Well, I at least can have a conversation with some-one based around what interests them rather than me. If that’s football, cool. I’m not a huge fan, but I’m also not self centered enough to realise that regardless of my opinion of it, it’s still pretty popular, and as binners points out, imagine! The trauma of some-one engaging you in conversation…Oh the horror!

I don’t get this line of thought, maybe I’m just self centred. I wouldn’t want to talk about football, last nights tv or the latest celebrity gossip so why would I show an interest? Why the hell would I read up or have knowledge of something I don’t give a shit about? Life is way too short for that and having no knowledge of things I have no interest in hasn’t affected me in any way. Are we supposed to have a base knowledge of everything, just in case some random person instigates conversation?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:14 am
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It's comparable to:

(1) simply not believing in god

or

(2) being actively atheist.

Being number 1, ie no interest in football, or god, gets little or no reaction.

Many people, unwittingly or otherwise, are actually option (2) in life. This gets a reaction. As you're posting on about it on an Internet forum you may be straying into number 2.

If someone asks you about the game last night and you simply say "you didn't see it, get up to anything good at the weekend with the family? then that's done and moved on.

If you reply "no, I don't like football" then I you're responding to natural small talk about the national game rudely. They don't actually care about your opinion on the weather or football, just don't want to stand in silence. You're being a football militant atheist.

Think about being asked "muggy weather today isn't it"

And responding

"I don't really like weather"

It's just a bit rude and lacking social skills. Just move on to talk about something else, they're making conversation and it's often a bankable opener, and should be if you like it or not!


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:14 am
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Don’t drink tea coffee or alcohol and ambivalent about football. If you listen to 5Live you can’t help but know about football, I really don’t like how it is the major sport in the country to the detriment of others ie press coverage etc.

Went to see Everton last year with a mate who was visiting from America. Throughly enjoyed it, Goodson being an old ground felt some how authentic.

Don’t understand how people get so into a team they want to fight other fans.

Hey I like Baseball which really confuses people, went to Fenway last year just to see it, an amazing ballpark, Babe Ruth played there, incredible


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:18 am
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As a game/sport I like it, the professional game does attract the tribal bellends. Stopped playing in my mid 20s and lost any interest in it until Junior decided he wanted to get involved. I ended doing a coaching course with the FA, I find this side of it really enjoyable


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:19 am
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It’s comparable to:

(1) simply not believing in god

or

(2) being actively atheist.

Being number 1, ie no interest in football, or god, gets little or no reaction.

That’s a good way of putting it and I firmly fall in camp one 99% of the time. There have been occasions, like others have mentioned, where somebody pretty much won’t accept it though. They either carry on talking football or can’t comprehend someone not liking it. Very odd and thankfully rare behaviour.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:23 am
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Why the hell would I read up or have knowledge of something I don’t give a shit about?

Yeah, why would you, after all; what's important to you and only you exclusively is the only thing that matters, right?

Y'know what? I've spoken to lots of blokes who say they can't do small talk, that they hate the social events that their wives and partners "make" them go to...This thread is full of these people. I feel sorry for you, I really do, there are hundreds of interesting people out there, and they do endlessly fascinating things, some of them even like football...


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:26 am
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If you reply “no, I don’t like football” then I you’re responding to natural small talk about the national game rudely.

Hardly rude is it. If I said to someone did you see the last stage of the tour and they said "No, I don't like cycling" I would just think fair enough and not see it as rude at all.
I would just see it as honest rather than pretending to have interest in something and to me it is rude to assume that someone else likes something and wants to talk about it just because you do.

And football militant, little bit dramatic.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:29 am
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. I feel sorry for you, I really do, there are hundreds of interesting people out there, and they do endlessly fascinating things, some of them even like football…

Thanks, but that’s a tad over dramatic and a waste of your emotions. I have an active social life and will happily chat to anyone I meet. All of this without ever having to discuss football. It’s possible for people to find something in common without having to be knowledgable about something that doesn’t remotely interest one of the parties. I don’t expect strangers to have a base knowledge of mountain biking, skateboarding or the Clutch back catalogue. I know! How crazy is that?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:35 am
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What annoys me are the loud mouthed england rugby fans that cant id half their own team or players with around a hundred caps like Richie Mcaw or AW Jones etc.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:38 am
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I do however know what football is, have an understanding of the structure, the culture around it and so on but I still didn’t know who that bloke was who couldn’t lie to save his life

This was my point earlier. You may hate it, but any semi aware adult in the UK will have a basic understanding of it.

Nope cant see the attraction whatsoever, hated playing it at school and have zero interest in watching, talking or reading about it.

So just because you hate something and have zero interest in it you can't understand why someone else would enjoy it? Do you feel the same about everything you have no interest in?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:41 am
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It is not about understanding why someone else may like something it is about the people who are saying everyone should know about football just in case someone wants to discuss it, see how silly that sounds?
And if I MUST know about football what level of knowledge do I need to have, all the team in Premier league or lower leagues? Which key players do I need to be aware of? How much time should I spend on gaining this knowledge in a subject I have zero interest in? and again - all because someone I may or may not know may want to discuss the topic in a casual conversation.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:45 am
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It is not about understanding why someone else may like something it is about the people who are saying everyone should know about football just in case someone wants to discuss it, see how silly that sounds?

Bingo! I have somebody feeling sorry for me and thinking I’m missing out on the rich wonders of the world. All because I don’t discuss football. Very bizarre mindset.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:50 am
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I've been accused of being unpatriotic because I wasn't interested in the world cup or how England would do in the world cup. I did point out they were right I'm not patriotic, but it's got bugger all to do with football.

I don't hate football I just have zero interest in it, the same for rugby and cricket.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:54 am
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I have zero interest at all. When I have watched it the behaviour and attitude of the players put me right off

I couldn't name a single current professional player apart from Gary McGuir (only because he is all over the news right now). Couldn't tell you who he plays for though.

Not found it to be a problem though and I have no issue with other people enjoying it


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:01 am
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Y’know what? I’ve spoken to lots of blokes who say they can’t do small talk

Ah so a working knowledge of football is required for small talk?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:04 am
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I spent 8 years or so as a service engineer, visiting aerospace and materials manufacturing plants over the UK and the world. Football is an almost universal language and topic of conversation - I found that being able to chat on even the most basic of level about what was happening in the English Premiership (the most widely watched league around the world) would go great lengths towards building a rapport with the guys on site that I was working with, which in turn meant they were that much more willing to help you out, lend you a hand, tools, whatever. Made every job that much easier and more pleasant.

I think sometimes people wear their difference from the masses too much like a badge of honour, as though it somehow elevates them above the hoi polloi. You're not better, just different. Our time here is short and fleeting, and if you can't understand why the first topic of conversation with a stranger might be the most popular and widely played/followed sport in the world then I think that says far more about you than it does them.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:05 am
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If I said to someone did you see the last stage of the tour and they said “No, I don’t like cycling” I would just think fair enough and not see it as rude at all

Then we're different. I think this is abrupt, unfriendly rude and lacking social ability.

If I wasn't interested in cycling and someone asked me about the last stage of the tour then I could say:

"I didn't catch it, was it good?"

This allows me someone two speak passionately about something they're clearly interested in, which I enjoy and I might learn something. It makes it about them, not me, always good in life. Only talking about about things you like is basically selfish.

Or

"no, I didn't catch it. I saw you went to xyz at the weekend. It looked great, what was it like?"

Again, about them, not only responding to things you like. Take an interest, learn something, this is how conversations work and friends are made.

If you see other people's interests as things you have to endure and "pretend to take an interest in" then no wonder you're struggling with speaking to people and feeling alienated.

I'd you only respond to things in conversation you personally like in a positive way then, I'm afraid to say, the problem is likely you.

And football militant, little bit dramatic

I'm happy with this. You're posting publicly about how people don't like you after you're rude to them about something they enjoy when they're only making small talk. Militant is reasonable.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:10 am
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It is not about understanding why someone else may like something it is about the people who are saying everyone should know about football just in case someone wants to discuss it, see how silly that sounds

I wasnt disagreeing with you..

My comment was aimed at an earlier poster


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:14 am
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Ah so a working knowledge of football is required for small talk?Ah so a working knowledge of football is required for small talk?

No, just the cliches:

"You wus robbed"

"He played a blinder"

"That ref was blind"

"Sick as the moon / over a parrot" or whatever.

I have no interest in it whatsoever, but a blunt 'I don't like football' when someone tries to open a conversation with you comes across as being rude. I usually resort to "I don't really follow it" which doesn't cut the other person off at the knees.

As regards tribalism - I think humans are programmed for it. If it wasn't football, it would be something else.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:18 am
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You’re not better, just different.

Well that cuts both ways.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:18 am
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In or work place there's it and sales. All of sales are footie fans. All of it are not. Sales morning meetings are almost an hours worth of football talk. In it we are vastly more efficient having reduced it down to ”did you see the game last night? "Yes great goal want it!?"

Talking of IT computers play a huge part in culture these days don't they? Yet no one starts small talk with an opener about binary or logic gates.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:19 am
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When people find out I'm from Glasgow, almost without fail if the person is male, the question is, 'So are you blue or green?' said with the same knowing condescending smile because the only thing Glasgow has going for it is heroin addicts and a fanatical devotion to a sport that has also managed to seamlessly intertwine politics and religious bigotry.

I used to say I supported Partick Thistle but as I've become comfortable with people assuming I'm homosexual/effeminate/whatever-masculinity-challenged-label-applies, I just say I don't like football.

If people feel comfortable assuming I follow a football team and subscribe to all the political bullshit that goes along with it I have no problem hurting their feelings by saying I don't like football.

Yes, it's rude to say, 'I don't like football' but it's also rude for people to just assume you follow their chosen sport.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:29 am
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I don't think its rude to say "I don't like" or don't have an interest in something. I personally think it's ruder to lie or bullshit about something.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:33 am
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'The Glasgow problem' is also another huge example of why those of us on the outside struggle to come to terms with football support and why 'liking football' is so different to enjoying following most other sports. I just can't imagine ever wanting to get involved in that regardless of how fascinated I was with it as a sporting spectacle.

Genuine question - your support of Celtic or Rangers is pretty much decided at your conception, but does the 'paid talent' on show care or know what's what and which side they have picked before they sign up? Or are they just overseas guns for hire paid to do a job for the highest bidder?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:38 am
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That’s where I stand tbh. Honesty is the best policy. Faking an interest in something is just plain odd behaviour to me. Best to just be truthful and say “Sorry, but I don’t watch / like football” and then everyone knows where you stand on the subject. Feigning interest and then having to keep that up would be bloody exhausting. Fair play to those that do like it though. It’s not like they’re going to be short of folk to discuss it with.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:40 am
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Ah so a working knowledge of football is required for small talk

If you don’t have an opinion on how the game is being adversely effected by VAR’s draconian interpreting the offside rule, then what’s the point of being alive?

Seriously...

😃


 
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Yup, the Glasgow problem as you put it is something few folk on here appreciate outside of the ones that have lived in its vicinity. That's not to say everyone is a full 11 on the Mason Boyne scale but when you meet the ones that are it somewhat tempers your opinion.

As for small talk, I've managed to kill hours of my life chatting with colleagues, tanker drivers and whoever else I'm trapped in a room with and not one has reacted negatively when I said I don't follow football. I think some of you are rather thin skinned and lacking in imagination if you think thats the only way to make small talk. Oh and nobody likes a bullshitter.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:54 am
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When I've been asked who I support, I've given answers like "Z Vetements" or "Kent", or "London Irish", and they look at you like you're from another planet.
My old flatmate used actually answer with a footy team, but having a fairly posh English accent and answering "Kircaldy" (some remote ancestry there) he also looks as if he was an alien from another planet. There certainly are people that assume that you must support a team that typically play in the top 1-2 English divisions (plus the 2 Scottish teams that people have heard of)

It's when they say "we" that cheeses me off. OK, I didn't realise you played for them... what position do you play? And you get looks as if you're an alien from another planet 😉

In the olden days when every town had it's club and it was the only weekly social thing I can understand "we" but sorry, now it's purely business, and town names in club names are purely historic leftovers. If it's not amateur then sport exists purely for the purpose of moving money from lots of people to a few elite rich.


 
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If you don’t have an opinion on how the game is being adversely effected by VAR’s draconian interpreting the offside rule, then what’s the point of being alive?

Well I suppose I could counter by asking for an opinion re. bolting on grit or some such. Or maybe the struggles surrounding oboe reeds. But I don't.


 
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I wonder if this is a age thing or a part of the country thing? I haven't had this since I was in my early 20s.

Now 39 live down south. If I do get asked it's more along the lines of "Are you interested in football?" Rather than "What team do you support?".


 
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Reading, writhing, arithmetic, football...

Doesn’t matter if you like it or not. Spending 1min a day reading the sport pages gives you an additional language / skill that will aid you for life.

The alternative is to spend more effort fighting you way around social situations with the masses globally in the office, lab, taxis and basically everywhere. Working overseas it is often the first thing that will bring you into a new group, while the person that doesn’t like football but has researched local culture is sat in the corner on their own. The benefits far outweigh the cons 😂


 
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I don’t think its rude to say “I don’t like” or don’t have an interest in something. I personally think it’s ruder to lie or bullshit about something.

Even ruder is after telling someone you have no idea or wish to have any idea they insist on talking to you about it and won't accept it.
I had a manager who continually used football analogies .. despite both his two direct reports having no knowledge or wish to have any knowledge about it.

It's as much the expectation as anything... my mate/colleague is big into kayaks and outdoors... I like bikes and outdoors... I can talk to him about bikes without being condescending and likewise with kayaks... I don't expect him to know what the WC is or who the people are... let alone team managers or mechanics ... he lives a mile in a straight line from Okeford Hill bike park.. but I don't expect him to know where or what...


 
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@markgraylish:

The CFL games went on for 4 hours…I think it was a ruse to make punters buy overpriced, shite beer…

I think you are absolutely right about ice hockey in Canada. I love it, but I have a brother who grew up hating it and feeling ostracised for it.

That said, in defence of North American football, I realised at some point that you had to think of it less as an action sport, and more as a living chess match. When you do that, and start to observe the strategies involved, it becomes more interesting.

Still super long and boring, but at least slightly more interesting...


 
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If you don’t have an opinion on how the game is being adversely effected by VAR’s draconian interpreting the offside rule, then what’s the point of being alive?

Id counter with if you know what any of these things are, then what's the point of being alive? 🙂


 
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Doesn’t matter if you like it or not. Spending 1min a day reading the sport pages gives you an additional language / skill that will aid you for life.

Never read a paper, never mind the sports pages. I suppose there is no way of knowing if it has helped, but I definitely don’t feel like I’ve been hindered in any way.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 12:08 pm
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I'm with you OP. When I started work I soon came to the conclusion that I'd best at least pay attention to the football results or be excluded from all conversation.

That being said, I don't really "get" spectating at sports at all and that includes all forms of cycling.


 
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Feigning interest and then having to keep that up would be bloody exhausting.

It certainly was for Roy and Moss in The IT Crowd.

"Did you see that ludicrous display last night!?"


 
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Never been interested in football, no longer drink alcohol (got bored of pubs, hangovers etc.. in my 20's) no longer smoke, no longer do drugs and people think its weird!

Now for the non tea drinkers, you guys are pure scum and all of you should be shot!! what the hell do you dip biscuits in???

Ive nothing against people who watch football but what does confuse me is some people can be so passionate about a sport to the point they will watch any match being played on TV, they will fight, slag off and abuse supporters of other teams yet they never have a kick around themselves

How can people be so passionate about a sport yet not play it yourself (especially as football is cheap to just have a kick around with mates etc..)


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 12:42 pm
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you could be passionate about formula 1 racing and never drive one. Or even drive at all.
I did play but amongst my football-liking mates, I never went to matches as I was usually playing.


 
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I find it odd that people follow teams religiously. That their mood is affected by how well their team preforms. This idea of them an us.

I don't understand why so much of the news is given over to a team sport. It annoys me that other radio broadcasts are interrupted to give you live updates about a game.

Don't mind the actual game of football, but don't follow it.


 
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I lost interest in football when I was about 10 I think. Used to go with my dad who never really had much interest in it either. I think when I was young it was expected you were just into football. It was probably later I realised the ridiculousness of constantly being asked "who do you support?" and the answer could have a negative impact on the rest of your day.

My brother in law is properly into football and bases his family meal times around what games are on, last time we were there he was getting stressed out over which team his son (7 years old) was going to play with on a Saturday morning and having serious conversations with the boy over his commitment.

It seems to turn people into twonks


 
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Spending 1min a day reading the sport pages gives you an additional language / skill that will aid you for life.

So now I have to start buying a paper as well?

Which one do I need to buy to fit in?


 
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I find it odd that people follow teams religiously. That their mood is affected by how well their team preforms. This idea of them an us.

Bread and circuses...


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 1:45 pm
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So now I have to start buying a paper as well?

Which one do I need to buy to fit in?

pssst - if you don't want to look like a dick - just remember that websites have 'pages' too - no mention was made of 'newspapers'. And some of them are about sports AND you don't have to pay for some of them. I know, mental isn't it!


 
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I've never been massively bothered by footie.

I feel no stigma as a result.


 
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Irrespective of your lack of love for football, some of you in here just sound like miserable sods who want to feel superior to people and make sure they know about it. You're very very bizarre


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 2:54 pm
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Irrespective of your lack of love for football, some of you in here just sound like miserable sods who want to feel superior to people and make sure they know about it. You’re very very bizarre

we need a 'like' button.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 3:04 pm
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The thing is, yes the fact that you are expected to like football is annoying, and it's ubiquity/overhyped-ness - but being a smug, superior dick about not liking it really isn't doing anyone any favours.

Edit: weeksy beat me to it


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 3:09 pm
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some of you in here just sound like miserable sods who want to feel superior to people and make sure they know about it

You must be new to the internet 😂


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 3:38 pm
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I think it's mainly the "We" thing that I can't quite understand. No, it's "they", you are not in the team.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 3:53 pm
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I think it’s mainly the “We” thing that I can’t quite understand. No, it’s “they”, you are not in the team.

Football fans are not in the team but they're part of the match.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 4:06 pm
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Not seeing the smug or superior thing tbh. If anything, quite the opposite - people being made to feel inferior because they don't conform to the "norm" of liking football. There are examples in this thread of people losing their jobs, being ostracised and their masculinity, sexuality, patriotism etc being questioned because they don't like a particular type of game. I know they are extremes and most fans wouldn't do that, but plenty do as experienced by me and others. That's not healthy.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 4:09 pm
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I have to admit that my enjoyment of football has been greatly diminished by Liverpool actually winning stuff.

I bloody love football.

I’d rather remove my own kidneys with a teaspoon than watch a game of rugby

That interests me though.

Have you ever thought about why that is? Because at a purely mechanistic level in the big scheme of things (when compared to say ski jumping or cricket) they are incredibly similar.

My hatred of rugby in all its forms is deep-seated and very real. I’m from Warrington and went to school in St Helens, where it’s taken as a given that you like watching men play with funny shaped balls. My PE Teacher was an enormous Welsh psychopath who insisted we play rugby every week. Horizontal rain? Rugby. Blizzard conditions? Rugby. Sub-zero temperatures? Rugby. Heatwave? Rugby.

To compound this, I was about 7 stone, dripping wet through in a donkey jacket and was in the same form as a bunch of huge, incredibly violent, hairless apes. Every PE lesson was like running a terrifying gauntlet of psychotic Neanderthals trying to kill me. Eventually one of these knuckle-dragging thugs tackled me like being hit by a train and I actually heard all my knee ligaments snap. The pain was excruciating!

As the doctor showed me my destroyed knee he said “well, that’s your rugby career over”.

It was the happiest day of my life!

So Rugby can * right off! And when it gets there it can * off some more!

My hatred of it, and everything to do with it, is truly limitless. And people on here saying they don’t like folk talking to them about football should try raising the topic of egg-chasing with me. It brings on a red mist of utter and complete loathing. It’s quite possible I might assault you.

I do like football though. Which I obviously never got the chance to play at school

Has that cleared it up? 😃


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 4:12 pm
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OP,

I don't see a problem in not liking football. Perhaps you want to join different crowd? No?

Nowadays I just watch the score and table ranking with occasionally watching a few match here and there but never into it any more. If someone wants to talk football I can but I rather they keep it short. 😃


 
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My hatred of rugby in all its forms is deep-seated and very real. I’m from Warrington and went to school in St Helens, where it’s taken as a given that you like watching men play with funny shaped balls. My PE Teacher was an enormous Welsh psychopath who insisted we play rugby every week. Horizontal rain? Rugby. Blizzard conditions? Rugby. Sub-zero temperatures? Rugby. Heatwave? Rugby.

To compound this, I was about 7 stone, dripping wet through in a donkey jacket and was in the same form as a bunch of Huge, incredibly violent hairless apes. Every PE lesson was running a terrifying gauntlet of psychotic Neanderthals trying to kill me. Eventually one of these knuckle-dragging thugs tackled me like being hit by a train and I actually heard all my knee ligaments snap.

As the doctor showed me my destroyed knee he said “well, that’s your rugby career over”.

It was the happiest day of my life!

So Rugby can * right off! And when it gets there it can * off some more!

My hatred of it, and everything to do with it, is truly limitless. And people on here saying they don’t like folk talking to them about football should try raising the topic of egg-chasing with me. It brings on a red mist of utter and complete loathing. It’s quite possible I might assault you.

I do like football though. Which I obviously never got the chance to play at school

Has that cleared it up? 😃

But surely that doesn't mean you have to hate Rugby Union?


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 4:44 pm
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I don’t have to

I choose to

I’m an equal opportunities hater. I don’t discriminate


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 4:51 pm
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you could be passionate about formula 1 racing and never drive one. Or even drive at all.
I did play but amongst my football-liking mates, I never went to matches as I was usually playing.

I'm a Formula one fan and watch every race, if i could afford to do it (or do any form of motorsport really) then i would, other than F1 there really isn't any other sport i watch or follow

I can understand watching a sport and not doing it if its an expensive sport to get started in but a football costs £10 and you just need a few mates to have a kick around

I'm not really a sport watching person and the only sports im interested are the ones i do (mtb, bmx, road bikes etc..) i don't actually watch or follow any of it as i just enjoy riding bikes

Have a few die hard football fans at work (Pompey supporters) and that's all they talk about and they will watch any football on TV including foreign leagues, yet if you say to them why don't you have a kick around they always say nah im too old (they are in their mid 30's) or they come up with some excuse/injury and look at you like your mad for suggesting they do something they are passionate about!


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 4:57 pm
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A stranger like a cabbie asking you what team you support is say "I dont know anything about you, you dont know anything about me, most people like football so that's a safe bet, id like to have a conversation with you, let's start here"

If you reply that you're more of a rugby, cricket, motor racing, hamster porn kind of guy then you can start there instead.

Responding simply with "I dont like football" is a sort of socially awkward conversation killer, if you are shooting down football as a topic then suggest something else. It's probably the awkwardness of I don't like football as a response that you see make people act strange in response


 
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Responding simply with “I dont like football” is a sort of socially awkward conversation killer

Having lived with aspergers for 52 years, socially awkward is my forte so killing a conversation comes naturally to me. I don't see aspergers as all negative as in most situations I would rather sit in peace than listen to someone talk to me about football.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 6:03 pm
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@Steve-g, you make a fair point which others have also made in the thread. I will try to take that on board. I don't think I've ever deliberately cut anyone dead with a stark "I don't like football" followed by a moody silence! I would usually say I'm sorry, I don't follow football and try to talk about something else. Works fine most of the time, but not always. As I said earlier I've been a bit prickly about it as I've had two fairly extreme "what is the matter with you"? type reactions to it this week, hence the OP. Believe it or not despite my OP I am generally interested in people and quite chatty with strangers!


 
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In which case yeah it sounds like you've just been unlucky this week.


 
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Doesn’t matter if you like it or not. Spending 1min a day reading the sport pages gives you an additional language / skill that will aid you for life.

Oddly enough, I’ve managed to reach the age I am, 66, along with a close circle of friends, along with work colleagues across the years, without needing to know, or care, about football. I actually manage to have conversations with an even wider range of people outside of my work and social circles that never, ever get onto the subject of football. I’ve also never read the sports pages of newspapers.
So, I’m struggling to see how my life has been diminished in any way, shape or form through not having any interest in this one activity.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to enlighten me on how my life could have been improved, especially seeing as none of my friends have ever had any more interest than I have.


 
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Just checking back in, there was me thinking Shirley no one actually has an issue with people not following football, certainly not on STW.

Nope, seems it’ll only take me 5 mins a day to study “the National game” in order to help out those with limited horizons make small talk, bless ‘em, but I just can’t any more than I could spend 5 mins a da reading about gardening or horse riding. Thankfully there’s always the Weather to talk about!

As for drinking tea because it’s ingrained in British society or whatever, no thanks. I’ve however let many a glass / cup of water sit motionless in front of me so calm the nerves of people I meet.

We’re funny animals aren’t we!


 
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I don’t get football and how obsessed people get about it. I had a boss who was a season ticket holder and we all used to know his teams results so we knew if he was going to be in a good or bad mood for the next 2 days.

its not even the game itself I don’t get. It’s the 3 days of build up and then another 3 days of post match waffle that I really don’t understand


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 8:37 pm
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I don’t really enjoy watching much football and it is a bit annoying how all the sport pages are dedicated to it with very little interest shown to other sports that would benefit from the exposure. Ignore the business aspect and ridiculous money involved. The level of cheating that goes on saddens me and the faking of injuries baffles me.

However it’s the national game and a passing knowledge of it is useful as others have mentioned. I’m sure it’s clear to many that my level of knowledge is pretty limited and can move conversation on to other subjects. My son wanted a football strip as was going to an after school club. He now ‘supports’ Barcelona as that was the strip he liked the look of in the shop.

I last played some 5 a side about a year ago as a stand in for a mate really into his football and really enjoyed it.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:16 pm
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A stranger like a cabbie asking you what team you support

I had this at school and replied "Team Lotus". That caused some consternation.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 9:56 pm
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The level of cheating that goes on saddens me

Steer clear of the Tour de France then.


 
Posted : 30/08/2020 10:03 pm
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Looking back at the OP - I have no knowledge, desire or ability to talk about football, so just dive in first and ask what the cabbie thinks of his taxi*. Coversation sorted for the rest of the trip 🙂

*Slight disclaimer that I've had occasional involvement in taxi R&D over the last 25 years so actually have a genuine interest in their opinion.


 
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Soccer is shite and not worth knowing about. Rugby on the other hand........


 
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