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Perhaps my OCD is kicking in too much, maybe I'm in a minority, but what the **** is going on with the state of the nations' Pies I ask?

Pubs seem to be the worst offenders - they tempt you with a delicious sounding Pie offering on the menu...only to deliver a bowl of stew with a puff pastry lid on top of it. THAT IS NOT A PIE!!!!

Let's be clear - a Pie has a top, a bottom and sides. Preferably shortcrust, not puff pastry (Even a quiche has a bottom and sides).

Can't the lazy ****ers be bothered to cook? Is there a pastry shortage? Why do they think it's acceptable to deliver a non-pie...agghhh

Discuss!!


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 7:07 pm
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Joe Cocker liked pies.

He's dead now, you know.


 
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Posted : 03/05/2016 7:13 pm
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and this has what to do with biking exactly?


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 7:14 pm
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Discuss!!

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/oi-binners-what-have-you-started ]OK.[/url]


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 7:14 pm
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It's just lazy. Easy to warm up a bit of meat stew and pop a lid on it for the last few minutes. Much harder to cook a pie from scratch. Get over to Australia.. There's proper pie shops in every town


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 7:18 pm
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Wise words HTS

GavinB - They fuel the ride


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 7:19 pm
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There's proper pie shops in every town
Oh, matey, that sounds like heaven


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 7:19 pm
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Pubs..wtf is a pub?

Never mind one that sells pies, all these ****s keep voting tory and then it comes as a suprise we turn into a mock plastic US.


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 8:13 pm
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Colne valley lad, the home of pies.


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 8:13 pm
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I'm just tucking into one of these bad boys. Good pastry matched with a good meaty filling.

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Posted : 03/05/2016 8:22 pm
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What about Shepherds Pie/Cottage Pie?


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 8:34 pm
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I don't even have an opinion on this. 😉

Edit: Forgot that myself and Fidel Gastro collaborated and made some actual art together....[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 8:40 pm
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What about Shepherds Pie/Cottage Pie?

Exception to prove the rule


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 8:41 pm
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And why the ckuff would I want a burger in a brioche hu****ing bun?


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 8:44 pm
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Get over to [s]Australia[/s] Wigan

FTFY


 
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Try living in Healthy freaks Ireland,you really have to search out the pies here.
As for PORK PIE they are just UNEDUCATED ,don't get me started on FAGGOTS !


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 9:23 pm
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Come the glorious revolution comrades, casserole pastry toppers will be the first with their backs to the wall!


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 9:35 pm
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Get over to Australia.. There's proper pie shops in every town

Pretty sure you can buy pies almost everywhere in England too.


 
Posted : 03/05/2016 9:49 pm
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Stoner must be asleep.


 
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I'm just tucking into one of these bad boys. Good pastry matched with a good meaty filling.

Yum, use by 8th March. Enjoy!


 
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+1 OP, I've taken to questioning the bar staff before I order.

I'm a bit suspicious of windydave's specimen too. Stilton in a pie?

Off to Spain now, where I'll have to be content with (wait for it)...

Pae-ella!

APF


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 2:52 am
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The butchers at the bottom of Wessenden next to Crowthers mill does the best pies in the whole of the Colne valley, they are going to retire soon and it'll be a sad day. One of there pies could make even the dampest cold in in Marsden feel like the sun will never go down.


 
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Get over to Australia.. There's proper pie shops in every town

Pretty sure you can buy pies almost everywhere in England too.

True but here they are kicking arse on the pie front. Your basic meat pie puts most of the Greggs/Chip Shop shit to shame. Most bakers shops will have a choice of 6 or 7 minimum and you always get the offer of a bit of sauce.

Then of course there is the Pie Floater
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I'm sorry to admit this but my new adopted home is taking what was great about the UK and doing it better
http://craftypint.com/news/1163/Hottest_100_Aussie_Craft_Beers_of_2015_The_Results


 
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Oooh in that pic of the beers. Have you tried Feral's Hop Hog? Current fave beer it's lush and brewed up the road in Swan Valley. Get it!

Pie floater... Mmmmm


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 4:49 am
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Hop Hog is great but I prefer the Karma Citra 😉


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 5:02 am
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It's been a while since I was there but I believe Australia and New Zealand have some sort of regulation for the meat content of pies, and it is very high. Still remember coming back from a biking trip on South Island (with .303 rifles on our backs to blat at feral goats) in 2005 and stuffing a venison pie with a blob of home-made jam in it in Newtown. Bliss.


 
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What about Shepherds Pie/Cottage Pie?

I covered that on the previous thread.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/oi-binners-what-have-you-started/page/4#post-7565463

I think we can make an exception to names of pies that aren't defined by their ingredients. That is to say, a pork pie is a pie with pork in it. A shepherd's pie does not contain shepherds, and similarly a cottage pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ie, "shepherd's pie" is the full name of a dish that is not actually a pie, in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake. See also, beef wellington.


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 7:56 am
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I believe Australia and New Zealand have some sort of regulation for the meat content of pies, and it is very high.

Their cheese and onion pies must be a bit grim. Come to that, their apple pies.


 
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I think we can make an exception to names of pies that aren't defined by their ingredients. That is to say, a pork pie is a pie with pork in it. A shepherd's pie does not contain shepherds, and similarly a cottage pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ie, "shepherd's pie" is the full name of a dish that is not actually a pie, in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake. See also, beef wellington.

Thank goodness you've cleared that up.

I was getting a bit nervous about the Coq au Vin. 😯


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 7:58 am
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similarly a cottage pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ahh. I think I need to re-read the recipe for Toad in the Hole

[puts fishing net away]

I was getting a bit nervous about the Coq au Vin.

And the Spotted Dick


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 8:04 am
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Yum, use by 8th March. Enjoy!

Its been in the freezer since then so all good. Still got 5 emergency pies left 🙂


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 8:11 am
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I was getting a bit nervous about the Coq au Vin.

Not as much as this guy was.

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Posted : 04/05/2016 8:16 am
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Never again. I can still taste the Diesel.


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 8:18 am
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Off to Spain now, where I'll have to be content with (wait for it)...

Pae-ella!

You could always have an empanada.

Not that Spanish pies are very good, too much pasty / too little filling.


 
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+1 OP, I've taken to questioning the bar staff before I order.

I thought I was the only one...

Went out on Monday night with Mrs Skydragon, to a local eatery with a good reputation. On the specials chalkboard they had 'Homemade Steak and Ale pie'. Sounded great, so I asked at the bar as to whether it was an actual pie, or a pastry-topped stew (which it was). The bar staff found it most wierd that I'd even ask - blatant Pie-Discrimination at play.

You'd think in Calderdale such underhand cooking tactics would have been rooted out a long time ago, but I'm afraid the practice seems to be rife.

We need a 'British Standard' kitemark for proper pies, to avoid this sad state of affairs.


 
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We need a 'British Standard' kitemark for proper pie

the Campaign for Real Pie; [i]CARP[/i]

Does Fish pie fall under the same exceptions category as Shepherd's?
What about [url=http://]Stargazy Pie[/url]


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 8:52 am
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Joe Cocker liked pies.

He's dead now, you know.


Whaaaaaat??? Someone should start a thread. 🙁


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 9:00 am
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I have no say, I don't mind a top crust only pie. Maybe that's because I make them, they are indeed easier

My issue with pies is when there's too much sauce, I want a very thick meaty pie, cooked for a long time so the sauce has reduced and is flavoursome. I don't want to cut my pie open and have it fall apart

Same goes for lasagna, cottage pie, shepherds pie etc


 
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I have no say, I don't mind a top crust only pie. Maybe that's because I make them, they are indeed easier

Yes, well thats as maybe. Its probably 'easier' for me if I didn't bother getting dressed in the morning. And thats the problem. If we all go around doing whats easier, you end up, ultimately, with me wandering the streets in my pants. Is that the kind of world you want to live in?[b] IS IT?!!!![/b]


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 9:18 am
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For once...I have to agree with you Binners 🙂

There are standards that have to be maintained. Non-pies are just another symptom of a failing society. Enforce an appropriate Pie standards regime and the rest of the world's problems will fall into place!


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 9:25 am
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That's quite a convincing argument. I'm going to go home and have a word with myself

If I'm buying a pie, then it definitely needs a bottom, unless it's VERY meaty and not very saucy

I would also have a problem with you walking around in pants, if you walked around in boxer shorts then that might be acceptable


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 9:28 am
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Its probably 'easier' for me if I didn't bother getting dressed in the morning. And thats the problem. If we all go around doing whats easier, you end up, ultimately, with me wandering the streets in my pants. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? IS IT?!!!!

I was under the impression that we didn't get to choose the kind of world we get to live in. That decision was to made for us by our pastry overlords 😉

Comrade Binners pants, pictured yesterday......

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Posted : 04/05/2016 9:30 am
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Oh its far far worse than that....

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Pubs, pies and bike rides can still be had this side of the Pennines

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Posted : 04/05/2016 10:15 am
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Stoner must be asleep.

He is - but he's not in bed - he's under a duvet in a tin bath full of gravy.


 
Posted : 04/05/2016 10:33 am
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He is - but he's not in bed - he's under a duvet in a tin bath full of gravy.

😆 actually laughed out loud too...


 
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