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Listening to the spokesman for Rio mention them over and over and over in an interview, repeating them parrot fashion, surely they have to be 'Olympic Legacy'
What does that mean other than West Aaaaam getting a new ground on the cheap, and a load of taxpayers asking 'It cost how much?!!!!!!' as the politicians immediately lose interest and wander off to their next vanity project, and the IOC moves on to its next utterly corrupt biding process.
Are there any other 2 words that are so meaningless, thats its amazing anyone can say them with a straight face?
Donald and Trump
Legend - Rarely applied to anyone who is even close to legendary status.
"Literally"
Awesome - now used to mean anything that isn't totally rubbish.
Iconic
Integrity.
Socialist.
🙂
sorry
Epic in the context of a bike ride.
No, it was a bit rainy...
"Hard working"
Hero, sports people doing their well paid jobs are not Heroes , possibly inspirational but definitely not heroes.
Binners I won't contribute to derailing your thread by arguing about 2012 ! Some good ones above
Recyclable (Hugh's War on Waste)
Environmentally Friendly (so many examples, VW diesels etc)
Corporate Social Responsibility
tragic. Mainly used to describe a wendyball team losing some pointless match rather than the deaths of hundreds.
Hero / Heroic.
Now more often used to describe an overpaid wendyballer scoring a goal rather than an individual going above and beyond any normal expectations under difficult circumstances to save lives.
Also "Northern Powerhouse" which has become a meaningless phrase trotted out verbatim by politicians who have no real idea of what it is supposed to be or how on earth they're supposed to be achieving it.
Honestly
Quality, awesome, amazing and insane.
Meaningless these days. 😕
Steak bake.
Amazing how adding that second word can completely and utterly destroy any memory of the existence of the first.
Incredible - no, I can believe that.
Labour. Got me there.
With respect...
Genius
Gutted - why the **** is everyone gutted by any ****ing setback. No-one is desolate or distraught or disappointed or even properly pissed off anymore. Just gutted. Lazy gutted. Limited vocabulary gutted.
Are you gutted love? Good, now bugger off.
Lifetime warranty
Edit: just 'warranty'
Quite unique!
Brexit.
I'll bite.
The Olympic Legacy isn't bricks and mortar. It's about enthusing people to take up sport, and then supporting them in that. There are a few on here that have stepped up and coach kids or organise teams or events, some have had a big hand in creating facilities, etc. And others will just go on about how the 'legacy' was wasted without having made any attempt to fuel it in the meantime, and have just reverted back to those dark days in early July 2012 when it was all going to be shit.
If you think it's all gone shit now - look in the mirror. What did you do to make sure the legacy of those brilliant few days wasn't wasted?
binners - MemberAre there any other 2 words that are so meaningless
In the mouths of this government, "only right", they say it all the time and it's basically just an alarm that says "we're talking shite". See also: Fair.
It's 4 words but similarly "long term economic plan".
theotherjonv - MemberI'll bite.
The Olympic Legacy isn't bricks and mortar. It's about enthusing people to take up sport, and then supporting them in that
Which didn't happen- participation in sport has fallen. There was a brief spike in 2012, but it didn't last, and it wasn't enough to offset the damage caused by pulling all that resource and funding out of UK sports in the run up to the olympics.
Long story short; if you want to encourage sport participation, you have to actually do something practical. If you instead stop doing that and do an olympics instead, mostly people just watch the olympics. It's inspirational but it's not practical.
'Exciting', when used in a work context.
Where I am at the moment is particularly bad for this. This is a building society ( that may or may not have woods behind it) you morons, nothing you do here is exciting. Interesting, maybe. Challenging, possibly. But exciting? We're talking about launching a savings account, not putting a man on the moon...
"Like" as in "I was.... like...." The laziest and most stupid way of describing an event.
Northwind.
Inspirational - for sure. But the practicality has to come from within. Yes, the government can always do more but as i said it relies on ordinary people getting off their arses to get involved. The world's best facilities are worth diddly if people still prefer to lay on their settee watching X-factor and eating a doughnut. And that starts with kids, which in turn means adults sacrificing a bit of time.
Just about the most annoyed I've been recently was with a friend whose son wants to start football. The trouble is that his age group sessions are at the local park at 0900 on a Saturday, and that'll mean Dad doesn't get a lie in. I suggested he could rota with other parents so he gets a lie in every other weekend? But that'd take effort. As a result the kid's not going.
Invariably.
Hard-working families.
uber
theotherjonv - MemberNorthwind.
Inspirational - for sure. But the practicality has to come from within.
That's not the lesson of the olympics- the reason for the decline before and after is the redirection of funding, it's not something that changed in individuals. (we have the exact same thing having locally, sports scotland are targeting a few specific sports to boost them, but the big picture is that other sports are falling behind- overall participation will fall)
This isn't knocking the olympics btw, they were incredible, and I came into it cynical. We just need to be honest about the legacy. You can't fix the damage til you admit it exists.
Pound sterling
International sport is utterly corrupt and just there to keep the masses down, which, the Romans worked that out 2000 years ago. I struggle to see it as a inspiration to anyone.
Not quite a word but the faux apology. I can't stand it, Blair, Green just **** off, you knew what you are doing and aren't sorry in the slightest. Conversely if you are a sportperson who just failed to win a trophy / gold medal that's your problem there is no need to apologise to the nation.
Sustainable
Sustainability
Really abused and miss used
Pounds Sterling
The Olympic Legacy isn't bricks and mortar. It's about enthusing people to take up sport, and then supporting them in thatIf you think it's all gone shit now - look in the mirror. What did you do to make sure the legacy of those brilliant few days wasn't wasted?
Are you for real? Seriously? Or a government spokesman?
I don't know if you noticed or not, but at the same time the government was spaffing absolutely vast quantities of taxpayers money on its massively over-budget vanity project, they were also overseeing an austerity agenda where youth services, including grassroots sporting facilities for kids, were bearing the brunt of it, and hit harder than anything. Resulting in involvement in sport actually being reduced, but London (and absolutely nowhere else, as per...) got some nice shiny new buildings, so thats all absolutely brilliant
Thats your 'Olympic Legacy' for you. Like I said: utterly worthless. So spare us the sanctimonious lectures please? Though I appreciate the viewpoint may be slightly different from up on that high horse
but London (and absolutely nowhere else, as per...) got some nice shiny new buildings, so thats all absolutely brilliant
Binners in "having a pop at London again" shocker.
Governments seem unconcerned about spending taxpayers money on vanity projects such as this and the likes of the millennium dome, but then magically get the jitters after the event over providing "value for money" for the tax payer. They then promptly sell the legacy off to the private sector for a pittance.
Funny that.
Actually, I know its two words, but "Value for money" uttered by Governments and the like...have no value.
Diverse
Enriched
Offensive
Conviction politician
[s]anthropogenic global....[/s] peer reviewed
The Establishment
binners - Member
The Olympic Legacy isn't bricks and mortar. It's about enthusing people to take up sport, and then supporting them in that
If you think it's all gone shit now - look in the mirror. What did you do to make sure the legacy of those brilliant few days wasn't wasted?Are you for real? Seriously? Or a government spokesman?
I don't know if you noticed or not, but at the same time the government was spaffing absolutely vast quantities of taxpayers money on its massively over-budget vanity project, they were also overseeing an austerity agenda where youth services, including grassroots sporting facilities for kids, were bearing the brunt of it, and hit harder than anything. Resulting in involvement in sport actually being reduced, but London (and absolutely nowhere else, as per...) got some nice shiny new buildings, so thats all absolutely brilliant
Thats your 'Olympic Legacy' for you. Like I said: utterly worthless. So spare us the sanctimonious lectures please? Though I appreciate the viewpoint may be slightly different from up on that high horse
Commonwealth legacy is actually alright up here, got a mountain bike track, velodrome, hockey stadium and some of the worst parts of the east end domolished and a few other bits and bobs. Could have been worse.
just found out yesterday we're co-hosting the 2018 European championships with berlin anawl so should get some stuff from that too.
Think the crux here is that you need to actually be the host city to get anything though! 😆
Democracy.
I'm not sure what Binners means when he talks of a 'devaluation' of the word [i]legacy[/i]. Because the word itself can have negative as well as positive connotations. 😕
As for the Olympic 'legacy' itself, well, I don't think there's any real surprise that things haven't turned out as advertised. And I don't know why any intelligent person would have believed the claims and false promises in the beginning anyway; it was always going to be an enormous costly white elephant. The sole purpose of the Olympics is to line the pockets of corporate interests and corrupt officials/politicians. The sports are just part of the marketing fluff.
The true legacy of the Olympics, is £9+ billion spent for very little visible benefit, thousands of displaced people moved out of the Olympic site (and many not adequately rehoused if rehoused at all), massively increased traffic congestion and pollution in the local area, a huge increase in crime locally, the destruction of natural habitats of several rare species, and two human lives lost. I suppose the sports stadia are quite nice. I'm not sure how the rest of the UK benefitted.
I'm not sure how the rest of the UK benefitted.
Indeed Clodhopper.
For the mountain biking they shipped all those big rocks down from Derbyshire, at an enormous cost. As someone more clued up about the emperors new clothes asked at the time 'why not just have it in Derbyshire?'
😆
I wasn't bothered about the mtb race, but I did think it strange that if you could have sailing etc down in Weymouth, why you couldn't have the MTB race somewhere a bit more appropriate than a farm in Essex.
So... Why the hell does every sentence have to start with "So..."???
And "two times"... What the hell is wrong with the word "twice"??? Bloody Americanisms...
And "One Pence"... It's "ONE PENNY, TWO PENCE"!! (or tuppence)
Phew... That was quite liberating...
Something else that annoys me, and I'm not sure if it should, but when people describe things a "for free" as though free is an actual amount, rather than a contraction of "free from"...
Professional
Celebrity. Seems to refer to anyone who uses appeared at any point in any media ever.
Engineer. Usually used to refer to the bloke with a screwdriver who replaces the toner cartridge on the printer, or replaces drive belts on washing machines. Should refer to the highly educated person who designed the machines/ bridges/ aeroplanes/ cars in the first place.
[i]Professional
Celebrity
Engineer[/i]
3 excellent choices.
I'd go with 'Politician'.
baby robin?
"Reality" TV.
Awesome
Preorder (no, one is merely ordering. Preorder doesn't exist, it was invented to appeal to the feeling of exclusivety!)
Celebrity
As Cyclingweakly rightly says; any form of Americanisms. They're not welcome in my vovab!
Costed policies (which bugs me because costed isn't really a word) because if you're a politician you decide if you want to do something then you get the money for it, either by taxation or by investing. There isn't am arbitrary size of the nation budget, it is whatever you choose to do.
Enduro Specific
renewable energy (I struggle to believe it)
green (I know, we've had sustainable)
passionate (see the apprentice, etc)
why not just have it in Derbyshire?'
It was the London Olympics! The athletes live in the Olympic village and don't want to travel to Derbyshire.
Clearly if it was the GB Olympics, that would be different. They did try for Manchester a few years back, but don't think it was taken seriously by the IOC, so went for one that had a decent chance.
Expert
Narrative.
"It was the London Olympics! The athletes live in the Olympic village and don't want to travel to Derbyshire."
But what about the sailing? That was in Weymouth!
And the MTB race wasn't 'in' London anyway.
clodhopper - Member
And the MTB race wasn't 'in' London anyway.
and not near any mountains (though Mountain Biking is perhaps candidate words here also as Mountain is often missing from the activity).
If I was an international level MTB competitor, I reckon I'd be much happier being in Derbyshire than ssaaaaaaaaarf laaaaaahndaaaan, then shipped out to Essex for the day, whether it had the biggest Macdonalds in Europe or not.
As with the Weymouth example, surely it would be sensible to have a mountain bike race somewhere thats not as flat as a witches tit, and you didn't have to ship a Derbyshire hillside in (at enormous cost) to stop everyone dying of boredom?
To me it just sums up the whole 'Olympic Ethos' they're so dramatically demonstrating in Rio at the moment - lets spaff loads and loads and loads of other peoples money, because we can. Without giving any thought to where we actually should or not.
At the end of the day, the 'Olympic Legacy 'in this case is a field in Essex with some very expensive rocks in it.
And has anybody stopped to think about what geologists or anthropologists make of it all in thousands of years. They'll think they're found a 21st century Stonehenge. Thats going to throw them a bit, isn't it?
The only Olympic Legacy I see is Ride London, which is ever more popular each year (if a bit cocked up this year and a bit tragic again).
Hero
Fact
"My"
"bad"
Innovative
A Level
Any figures for the [i]enormous cost[/i]? The whole site only cost £800k so I doubt shipping the rocks was very much. And the result? Now Essex has a fantastic, world class, trail centre where there was none before as a result of the Olympics. That's a legacy. If you want to improve the MTB facilities in Derbyshire maybe Matlock could bid for the next games.For the mountain biking they shipped all those big rocks down from Derbyshire, at an enormous cost. As someone more clued up about the emperors new clothes asked at the time 'why not just have it in Derbyshire?'
World Class indeed. Puts our local trails to shame, thats for sure. And a snip at just shy of a million quid. Must make a point of planning a trip down there. Can't think why I haven't done so already. A glaring oversight 😉
Awesome.
Why couldn't they have built something in the Chilterns
1:20mins from London ?
Yes, it is, they did an olympic race on it. Have you ridden it or just found an unflattering image on google? The point being compared to what was there before, or anywhere in the area, it is a massive step forward and an excellent example of legacy. Whether you think its value for money is up to you but £800k isn't a lot for something that is now used by hundreds of thousands of people.Truly 'world class'
TBH with Hadleigh, it's just that most people don't understand that it's an mtb race course not a trail centre.
"Have you ridden it "
I confess I haven't. But people I know who are keen mtbers, have, and have said it's shit (compared to other places they've been in the UK). I have heard or seen nothing to make me want to visit the place. I suppose it's ok for families and kids, but I don't think we had to have a £9 billion Olympics to create it.
Perhaps Binners and I should make a special trip down there, to see for ourselves, just how amazing it is. 😆
I've ridden it and it's not bad. It's not Snowdonia, or Afan, or even the Chilterns, but it's got technical bits and it is possible to take people of all abilities round it. It's even got a kids pump track and a cafe. For the money, even including shipping fees for the prime Derbyshire rock, I think it is worth it.
If you need another reason to go there, Ikea is just down the road. They do meatballs and cheap furniture.
Is there a Greggs nearby? That might swing it for Binners. 😉
Anyhooters, back on topic:
'Solutions' added to the end of any sort of business
