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Just noticed the local cinema is showing the 20th Anniversary 4K remaster tonight - one showing, one night only! Just booked tickets. Actually really stoked, one of my all-time favourite films (I just pretend the sequels don't exist 😂). It blew me away seeing it first time round in the cinema, will be great to see it on the big screen again!
20 Years already..... makes me feel old
A lot of films/cinemas are doing this. I took my daughter to a 40th anniversary showing of Alien a short while ago. (I’ve never seen it on a big screen - too young!)
Apocalypse Now is showing soon. I’m hoping that Blade Runner gets a showing as well, but that will be 2022.
Great film. I remember writing an essay on the action sequences when I was at 6th form college doing A Level Film Studies.
After watching the Matrix I really wanted a sequel and when they did, I wished they hadn't of bothered.
I’m hoping that Blade Runner gets a showing as well, but that will be 2022.
Making it a historical film as opposed to futuristic.
I bought it on 4K the other day it is absolutely beautiful.
There is something about those old Sci-Fi films and the realism of their practical effects in 4k that just looks so much better to me than some of the CGI from just a few years ago.
Poor CGI is like poor pratical effects they look poor and date quickly.
Blade Runner 2049 is an example of CGI done well.
Twenty years! That has flown by. Not watched it for a long time and wonder how the effects have aged. I have a feeling they won’t have faired too well. It was a brilliant film, but started an unfortunate trend of overuse of bullet time and slo-mo. Not to mention the terrible sequels.
Still need to watch the new Bladerunner.
Oooh! £7.99 on Apple TV for 4k
After watching the Matrix I really
wanted a sequel and when they did,I wishedtheyI hadn’t of bothered
I was pretty stoned when I first saw it and it blew my mind.
Kuco
After watching the Matrix I really wanted a sequel and when they did, I wished they hadn’t of bothered.
Yep - Even now I occasionally think 'hmmm maybe I should watch them with my kids - they can't be that bad' and then I start remembering all the reasons why they shouldn't exist!
I have a feeling they won’t have faired too well.
In many ways not to badly. The technology used though eg the mobiles etc do come across as rather dated.
Shame they never made any sequels.
I’ll have to give it a watch one evening. Never thought of the phones. Were they Nokia or Motorola flip phones?
Not watched it for a long time and wonder how the effects have aged. I have a feeling they won’t have faired too well.
For or the most part it’s aged very well because lots of the effects are practical rather than CGI and well done practical effects are pretty timeless.
It’s the same reason why, for example, C3PO is still more believable as a robot than Ultron from the Avengers.
It feels more real, because it is more real.
Once the Wachowskis had the budget for more computers, it showed and not in a good way
The sequels are very much on a par with the Star Wars films from the same era. Shitty effects and I tend to try and forget they exist. Practical effects win every time.
Errrr!! The original is full of CGI but done well.
Thought id missed this but the local showing starts at 10 which means i wouldnt be home until about 1am, might just stick the bluray on instead.
Great film. I remember writing an essay on the action sequences when I was at 6th form college doing A Level Film Studies.
All the stuff going on in that film and you chose to write an essay on the action sequences! 🤦🏻♂️
Thought id missed this but the local showing starts at 10 which means i wouldnt be home until about 1am, might just stick the bluray on instead.
Are you 12?
Don't worry I'm sure the 4th one will be just as great as the first
😱
Oooh! £7.99 on Apple TV for 4k
get it on 4k bluray if you are actually after the best picture...
Errrr!! The original is full of CGI but done well.
Never said it wasn't but the CGI is limited to the stuff that they couldn't use practical effects for, like the sentinels.
Where there's are direct interactions between the live actors and CGI it's usually only a very quick transition like when they enter the construct or an agent changes body.
The bullet time effect was a practical effect for the most part using massive camera rigs with dozens of still cameras. The only CGI bit of it is the bullet trails.
If you want more Matrix, but want it to be pretty good - check out the Animatrix.
I showed it to my philosophy class at the end of term. You know how cynical 16 year olds can be about 'old' films. Those guys were determined to hate it but by the end I don't think spellbound is too strong a word. They loved it.
Another reason it stands up so well is that the effects are for te most part subservient to the story rather than the other way round.
I watched the original version again a few weeks back, didn't think it had aged badly at all. Pretty decent film.
Superb film. Still looks good today.
The one very minor irk I have is that I really wish they'd stuck with the 'CPU' explanation of what the machines wanted humans for, the battery explanation is weak. I suppose Morpheus could simply have been wrong about that explanation though 🤔
Cracking movie the original was (and is), but also responsible for so many questionable fashion choices by IT bods.
get it on 4k bluray if you are actually after the best picture…
That would involve buying a 4K Blu-ray player too and increasing my stockpile of Blu-ray and DVDs.
The bullet time effect was a practical effect for the most part using massive camera rigs with dozens of still cameras. The only CGI bit of it is the bullet trails.
Well that and he wasn't on a rooftop.
Watched it recently, it stands up well, for the reasons above. Hard to think how it could have been improved upon.
PS, the sequels stink.
I don't think the sequels are that bad, sure they bear pretty poor comparison to the first one and a load of word salad from a Jeremy Corbyn lookalike doesn't help.
If the Star War prequels have been give the benefit of hindsight then i think the Matrix ones probably deserve to be given a bit of slack.
Were they Nokia or Motorola flip phones?
Nokia 8110. Cue lots of disappointed customers when the retail version didn't have the cool spring effect and, well, they were just a bit crap really.
Indeed it was. He's just opened a few minutes ago now they're taking a bug out of his umbilical.
and then I start remembering all the reasons why they shouldn’t exist!
What! Your kids? A bit harsh.
If the Star War prequels have been give the benefit of hindsight then i think the Matrix ones probably deserve to be given a bit of slack
The SW prequels were stinky doo-doos, too.
Cue lots of disappointed customers when the retail version didn’t have the cool spring effect and, well, they were just a bit crap really.
Unlike the 7110 which was teh awesumz.
Cue lots of disappointed customers when the retail version didn’t have the cool spring effect and, well, they were just a bit crap really.
7110 did...still got mine albeit haven't used it for years, probably still got charge though
:Edit: beaten to it
If the Star War prequels have been give the benefit of hindsight
Have they? Not on my watch!
Some clever use of effects as also discussed in previously posted videos
Yup. It was ****ing awesome in fact on the big screen 😂I watched the original version again a few weeks back, didn’t think it had aged badly at all.
It stands up really well after 20 years. As has been mentioned above, most of the special effects are largely practical e.g. gunfights, explosions, bullet time, the chopper crash, etc so still look great. The whole film has that cool grainy look of something filmed on a proper camera, not the super smooth, glossy look of e.g. superhero films today.
The only scene which looked noticeably pants is the big explosion after the lobby shootout, where the lift door flies towards the "camera". IIRC this is 100% CGI and it really shows.
The not 100% convincing/aged CGI actually works great in the context of the matrix being a virtual world, e.g. the scene where Neo tries to jump for the first time but falls, and then kind of goes through some spongy asphalt. It doesn't look real, but then it [I]isn't[/I] real, so it still works!
There was a big wave of retro nostalgia at the start with the green-screen CRTs and those split ergonomic keyboards that were everywhere in the 90s, but I don't think that the dated tech is a problem, as the matrix was always meant to be contemporary, not futuristic. In fact the aesthetic was retro even when it was released, most of the cars used are old 50/60s style ones, there are rotary telephones, 50s style TVs, all the furniture & building internals etc are very retro.
The soundtrack is ace too (which I'd largely forgotten about), works brilliantly.
The definitive cyberpunk movie (not that there are many decent ones to pick).
Watching the end now as went out for tea.
It really hasn't aged the some and picture on 4K is amazing.
Oh and yes some of the CGI does look a bit poop, the silver liquid oozing over Neo for example but overall it's stands up.
yeah, however that one gets a pass from me as it's taking place within the matrix so actually makes sense for it to look a bit computery and unreal!Oh and yes some of the CGI does look a bit poop, the silver liquid oozing over Nero for example
Even though everything else in The Matrix looks real?
Do you guys really care if the CGI looks dated or not? Would it make the movie worse for you if it did?
Not being argumentative, genuinely curious.
Shoddy CGI really can date a movie and if I’ve not seen it for a while can make a difference to my enjoyment of it. The memory glosses over the shit bits. When you watch again it can be jarring. Not the best example (as they are rubbish), but the Star Wars prequels are made worse by the fact that they look like they were made last week by the sci-fi channel.
yes... the things that look real are computer representations of real things... this is a representation of an [I]unreal[/I] thing... makes sense to me 😂Even though everything else in The Matrix looks real?
It would be jarring, I think. Like the way everything in the Phantom Menace looks plastic-y and fake. The Matrix still looks (as intended) dirty, gritty and real. So having to put your believability on hold is one less thing to think about!Do you guys really care if the CGI looks dated or not? Would it make the movie worse for you if it did?
I think I tend to give older movies a pass on naff CGI, especially if I saw them when new. Unless they're annoyingly bad, obvs.
Do you guys really care if the CGI looks dated or not? Would it make the movie worse for you if it did?
Yes bag CGI looks horrendous as it ages.
yes… the things that look real are computer representations of real things… this is a representation of an <em class="bbcode-em">unreal thing… makes sense to me 😂
Haha!
Two observations about the sequels.
Firstly, if they stood alone we'd probably think better of them. Its just that in comparison to the original...
and, there are some really good ideas in them (like the whole cast of sentient programs) as well as the shit ones (like the Zion rave).
Just watched the Matrix in 1080p, CGI looks great 😉 10/10 will watch again in 10 15 years time.
and those split ergonomic keyboards that were everywhere in the 90s
I'm typing on one now...
I watched the whole trilogy recently. The first one is awesome, still one of my favourite films, but I'd overlooked just how bad the acting is. Keanu is absolutely terrible.
I then watched the second, not too bad, overboard on the CGI, but kind of watchable.
The third, completely atrocious.
Matrix was the second DVD I ever bought - import from Canada from (was it) DVD Box office, as R1 had more content. Probably looks really dated now but might be worth a watch again.