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God, it drags doesn't it and it's only Monday. After getting the role at the back end of 2021 and thinking this is great, 4 days a week decent holidays and a small team. It's gone to 5 days a week, not being able to get the promised holidays in (contract never made an appearance, yes my fault for taking it on, but small company etc.) and pretty much not doing what I thought I was being employed to do. Backwards thinking, biggoted views are rife, horrendous commercial decisions on a daily basis, getting in consultants to tell them exactly what I told them 6 months ago. Happy to be leaving and taking on a mammoth task at a recently closed cheesemaking site to bring it back up to spec.
4 days to go!
Anyone else moving on this week or have any tales of leaving a job where the grass seemed greener and it went spectaculalrly wrong?
Not a bad experience as such but after 14 years I finally got a promotion 6 weeks ago, last week I finally found out my start date is at the end of June.
19 weeks to go!
Last shift at a part time job this Wednesday. Just leaving to cut my income below the SNP 42% tax band. Once I add the NI and superannuation my hourly take home rare is about £5 or £6 an hour. I,d rather have the time to do ther stuff than the extra money.
Anyone else moving on this week or have any tales of leaving a job where the grass seemed greener and it went spectaculalrly wrong?
Every job I've had has been worse than the last in some ways. Always been glad to move on. I'm starting a new job in April, working with people I've known for 15 to 20 years. They're very nice people, great to go out for drinks with, but spectacularly incompetent. Sales have plummeted to an unsustainable level so they want to refresh their product line, I'm a product guy, not a sales guy. Pay is ok but I don't see this ending well, their product line isn't the problem, their incompetence is the problem. I'm guessing this will last one year, two years tops.
Yeah. I jumped ship from a Midlands automotive role (2008) for a pharmaceutical role in beautiful North Devon.
That went spectacularly wrong and 2 years later I was back in the Midlands in an automotive role (I'm still there).
Pharma' company had bullying management with entrenched views and resistance to the changes I'd been brought in to manage. The area was beautiful but the crappy job plus family issues (all back in the Midlands) killed it and we moved back.
Such a shame :o(
Yep.
Handed my notice in last week - got 2 emails: MD - work your full notice period; CEO - immediate gardening leave.
Me: FFS.
Got given a list of jobs that had to be done before I could exit.
Me: emailed this one in Sept with no response, this one in Oct with no response, this one.... etc.
Went in today (I am normally remote) and was told I could go home and start "gardening leave".
Idiots.
management with entrenched views and resistance to the changes I’d been brought in to manage.
This is pretty much it for me, I can't fathom why you'd take someone on to carry out a role and then when you don't like the answers, ignore everything!
So you moving to the place next to the high school Ben? You're going to have to create a longer commute 🙂
@mick_r, Yep I'll be running the technical function at Singletons. We'll be producing brie and goats cheese as well as running a packing facility for export.
That should keep you busy for a bit....
It is the 30 year anniversary of Leyland DAF going into receivership - that was a very strange time for people hanging around in limbo at work waiting for things to happen.
After 9 years with Network Rail I'm working my last 4 weeks. I'm sad to leave but cannot reconcile with the direction being taken within the Western routes capital delivery (projects). On a brighter note, I'm really excited with the new role and it's 11min walk from my front door!
No gardening leave, no reduced notice period which is a shame.
Got my job offer today, apprehensive in a way of the new place, but things have got so bad where I am a lot of long term staff are leaving, so the new place will have to try very hard to be worse. I’ve only been there since spring 2022. I knew it wasn’t the best place but thought I could bring in a fresh attitude to the place, but it’s apathy has swallowed me whole. Also when I started compared to now management has changed and things have got worse.
Happy to be leaving and taking on a mammoth task at a recently closed cheesemaking site
Should be in the fulfilling jobs thread 🙂
any tales of leaving a job where the grass seemed greener and it went spectaculalrly wrong?
Well nothing in my career would ever be described as spectacular (or spectaculalr)... but...
A few years back I got a secondment into a more senior role within my organisation. I should probably have identified from the recruitment process that it was going to be a disaster. One of the interview panel was someone I was going to be managing and the boss to be failed to turn up.
After I accepted the job i contacted the boss and offered to come in for a meeting on a day off to find out what the plan was, how we were going to work together, etc. No response.
On my first day in the role I see said boss in the corridor and he stops for about a minute to tell me he wants me to do a particular job, about a million miles from my skillset and what my RD was. I then discovered there was a team of PWC ****ers that were being paid a fortune to do (amongst other things) a lot of the tasks I was apparently there to oversee. OK, I said, i'll manage their contract then. Turned out the boss was ex-PWC himself, one of them was living in his house as a partner of one of his kids (!) and there was a lot of lily gilding going on.
After a few months of utter misery I wrote a resignation letter detailing all of the things that were going wrong, and cc'ed the most senior person of relevance. On my final day when I said goodbye to the team, it turned out he was 'resigning' too. Effective immediately. That was weird.
Is disappointed
Was expecting ideas on funny pranks and harmless japes to pull on your last few days.
But alas no, its al " see ya suckers I'm ooot."
When I left teaching i got the job offer and rand round my department hi fiving people, I was delighted to be leaving.
Then realized that due to teaching notice periods I had a 5 month notice period.
Which was quite the disappointment.
I once had to work 6-months notice.
A small pharma company bought over by our licencee. Made us redundant to relocate the office to Oxford, and we kept our share options if we worked the 6 months.
Absolutely soul destroying.
However, during this time we set up a small contractor company that immediately went to work for our main rivals.
And then all we did was drive down the share price for the original company: selling shares every time the price bubbled up. We were so successful in this that we got blamed in a press release put out on the US stock exchange.
Idiots.
Paid off half the mortgage though.
After 19 years at the same company decided it was time to leave otherwise I was going to retire there. Found another company, looked great, was given a very rosy picture by the interviewing team (company growing, all these great products), quickly after joining found out the financials weren't as good as I'd been told + most of the products were aspirational, 4 months after joining got made redundant, along with the other 2 Product Owners, in a cost cutting exercise. Similar story of you must work your notice, followed by my boss going - don't worry just spend you're time looking for a new job.
I'm now on gardening leave (or job hunting - which seems to take up more time than working).
If anyone knows of any software Product Owner roles going I'd love to hear from you 🙂
Not last week, but almost last month!
44 days left from working 3 months notice and I had the stupid idea of telling them early so it is actually 3 months and 3 weeks notice.
And boy is it starting to drag.
When I left my last job just over 7 years ago, the week before I finished my new company credit card arrived nobody collected my work car and the new Audi 3 turned up.
The same week 3 of the HR teamed left which meant I didn’t get the redundancy payment for another month.
I’m starting to look again right now but in general (not just everyone’s replies above) the workplace seems a bit of toxic place across the board
I can’t fathom why you’d take someone on to carry out a role and then when you don’t like the answers, ignore everything!
Scapegoat for when things go wrong - it's the fault of the guy we didn't listen to, he didn't speak up loudly enough.
I left my job of 25ish years during lockdown and the furlough scheme so not a lot of people even knew I was leaving.
I just switched my laptop off at 5pm on the last Friday and sat out in the garden with a beer. No cards, collection, leaving speech or leaving do. A strange end to such a long time with a company but then it was a strange time in general.
I have about five weeks left in my current job. Joined in January 2017 and it was a good place to work with a mainly local workforce. Some small company issues, not much appreciation for hard work in delivering projects and some bizarre working practices but, after years of working remotely or on customer sites, it was great to have a local office with good colleagues.
Company was acquired in mid 2019 by another company in a related field and they really did not have a clue how to get the companies working in a manner that complemented each other - there should be synergies but they have never been leveraged.
New management were hostile to training and development so people gradually started to leave and the migration grew in pace during lockdowns.
I am the last person of my pre-covid team and have secured a role with a competitor who have a reputation for good staff management. I will again be working remotely which is not great but needed to move as the area I focus on had lost focus at my current employer. They are making me work two months of my three month notice period and I am trying to finish things I am working on but have also been told that I cannot tell customers I am leaving so trying to get things moving quicker is tricky.
Last shift at a part time job this Wednesday. Just leaving to cut my income below the SNP 42% tax band. Once I add the NI and superannuation my hourly take home rare is about £5 or £6 an hour. I,d rather have the time to do ther stuff than the extra money.
Are you sure you've worked this out correctly?
And move to England, you'll be a couple of percent better off...
@StuF we have an opening for a product owner position. I'll DM you the link.
I think we've all had at least one sh1t job. I lasted 6 weeks in one, phoned from site and resigned there and then. Two of us started at about the same time, my colleague had resigned withing two weeks. We'd been head hunted to work for an Accountancy Firm, performing the role of Financial Controller for a number of clients. We'd go in each month and do a complete month end and balance all the accounts and reports. Sounded great, but it was a nightmare in reality. Every month the staff had mucked up the accounts and you spent ages fixing them - bank recs not done etc. Just a mess. Then your line manager was asking why it was taking so long - if things were done, it would take a day, not three. No pension scheme, just 4 weeks leave, and just constantly working late. Literally told him to stick it, and I wouldn't be back.
I left a job I'd been in for 14yrs back in august. left on good terms and my last week was probably my most productive for a long time as I had to actually finish all the things I'd promised people.
no cards/present. asked for charity donations to Bliss. lunch with a couple of the people I'd work with the most in the pub just down the road and that was that.
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I left my job of 25ish years during lockdown and the furlough scheme so not a lot of people even knew I was leaving.I just switched my laptop off at 5pm on the last Friday and sat out in the garden with a beer. No cards, collection, leaving speech or leaving do. A strange end to such a long time with a company but then it was a strange time in general.
my wife left like this after 38 years at the local council. she said it was perfect.
Moved companies at the end of 2021 after 20 years as I was bored and wanted a change. Not gone well, the guy I moved to work under has been forced out in some kind of coup. I'm now pigeonholed into a role I don't really want to do and my wife got cancer at the start of 2022. I would have much preferred to be in my old safe boring role which I could do in 3 days a week and still get paid for 5. Still money is good, just need to now decide, do I stick or twist. Coming up for 50 I recognise job options may start to slow down. Good luck to you and hope your move works out.
"I jumped ship from Midlands automotive role (2008) for a pharmaceutical role in beautiful North Devon."
The one in Wrafton or Whiddon valley?
And move to England, you’ll be a couple of percent better off…
I,d be 22% better off in England. Between £43k and £50k I pay 42% income tax. 13%? NI. 9% pension.
In England it is 20% tax.The job I am giving up is entirely in the 42% band as a pension and another part time job get me to £43k.
I,d be 22% better off in England. Between £43k and £50k I pay 42% income tax. 13%? NI. 9% pension.
Slightly misleading.
It's 22% of 7k (£1540) if you earn just the whole range in that job.
So if your total income is £50k, you'd only be 3% better off down here.
Although if you're only working part time or ad-hock jobs then sometimes it feels a bit pointless this time of year because your effective salalry nosedives if you're not on PAYE and haven't been paying the 42% all year.
I think i'll be finding out about this in the next year or so.
I've got a safe job in Engineering which pays pretty well after 16 years but we were taken over a couple of years ago and i do not like what the place has become - shocking staff retention and some very poor hiring choices lately is making it difficult to enjoy + leadership are absolute sh*ts.
I'm 50 so aware if i stay another 3-4 years i'm heading toward being here until i retire, which i don't think i want as TBH i'm bored - been doing exactly the same job/contract since 2016 and the only future for me here is more of the same.
I'm doing a really good APM course which finishes in Aug, which feels like a springboard to move.
Its a tough decision though as after 16 years i get 30 days leave, a company car, etc.
Wherever i move to, it'll be for some sort of pay/benefits cut, which is a difficult pill to swallow right now.
Many years ago the week before I left a job and HR came to talk to me" people have noticed that you are just wandering about and not doing much work, there is nothing we can do so can you make it less obvious "
Many years ago the week before I left a job and HR came to talk to me” people have noticed that you are just wandering about and not doing much work, there is nothing we can do so can you make it less obvious “
Reminds me of when I got made redundant. My job was billable by the hour so unless there was a client I was expected to do departmental development work (writing procedures, programing spreadsheets, etc). Now as it was a downturn there was none of the former and no hours budgeted for the latter, so I had to book 40h/week to the last resort "unbillable overheads" timesheet code.
Which lead to it being flagged with management.
So I told them to give me something to do.
But there were no clients (hence I was being made redundant) and they had no budget for overheads work.
So I booked to the last resort code again.
Which lead to it being flagged with management.
So I told them to give me something to do.
But there were no clients (hence I was being made redundant) and they had no budget for overheads work.
Repeat every Monday morning for about the last 6 weeks of my time at the company. They wouldn't even pass me some departmental work under the table to keep me busy.
I left a job just before lock down they asked for my laptop so someone else could WFH. Told me to enjoy the time off.
New company postponed my contract start 6 months! Ended up WFH from the previous place during lockdown. It was great. Best period of work I've had. Couple of big projects, only me working on them. All I had to do was deliver in a few months. I got lots of riding in as I planned my days around that and fitted in the work - no politics, no hastle, interesting work then just bikes, queuing at Sainsbury's for bog roll and baking.
Lasted 18 months in the next job. Was a change in direction that was wrong, learnt a lot, great team of people, sad to leave them.
Current job is "interesting". I'm on my second MD, HSE manager and HR director, 3rd operations director and third finance director. It's been 15 months! No plans to hang around. Everyone I came to work for has gone, as is the job I was sold.
Slightly misleading.
It’s 22% of 7k (£1540) if you earn just the whole range in that job.
So if your total income is £50k, you’d only be 3% better off down here.
It isn't misleading at all. The point is that for that job, should I keep doing it, I would be working for a take home of around £6 per hour while paying more than £6 per hour in tax and NI. I prefer not to. In England I would keep £2/3rds. In Scotland less than half.
It isn’t misleading at all. The point is that for that job, should I keep doing it, I would be working for a take home of around £6 per hour while paying more than £6 per hour in tax and NI. I prefer not to. In England I would keep £2/3rds. In Scotland less than half.
True, but by that logic a (well off) full time worker is paying >50% of their wages as tax in March, and paying zero tax in May?
You could in principal make the job your 1st income, have it tax free and pay 42% on a portion of your pension?
(although I'd still agree with the principal that it's not worth turning upto a part time minimum wage job if you've already got ~£40k of other income!)
Had a day off yesterday to use my last days holiday, which was great, went to my new employers site for a look round as well. Back in today and it's very frosty. Same old **** ups happening, which I'm rectifying for the benefit of the customer. Thankfully, (I suffer from misophonia) they've all decided to eat dinner in a different office. It's all a bit weird! The commercial "director" (not an actual director on the books, just calls herself that, a glorified PA otherwise) is off for the next 2 days, which is a bit of a blessing because she's a prat.
there should be synergies but they have never been leveraged.
Oh dear... House! 🙃
Happy to be leaving and taking on a mammoth task at a recently closed cheesemaking site
Should be in the fulfilling jobs thread 🙂
I was a cheesemaker many years ago. It wasn't fulfilling and I wasn't blessed. 😀 It was mainly because of the large company I worked for, and hopefully it will be better for the OP. I made the lunatic decision to leave that job to work in the bike industry, which was even worse, but without that change I wouldn't have met my wife. Buying my first MTB in the early 90s led directly to where I am now in my home and work life, and I'm happy with that! 😀
As a blue sky thinker - I pluck the low hanging fruit, achieve metrics, lean in as a development opportunity and escalate whenever colleagues circle the wagons.
The commercial “director” (not an actual director on the books, just calls herself that, a glorified PA otherwise)
Relative of the owner? I hear so often of useless folk like this.
Relative of the owner? I hear so often of useless folk like this.
Not a relative, just lives round the corner, but yeah, I've seen similar at other companies.