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Yesterday evening I bought a game on Steam. all 76 GBs of it. Began downloading immediately. I have left it running ever since and here I am 24 hours later 19 GBs in to the download with another 3 days to go before I can start shooting people. I wouldn't mind, but I still have to pay the same as everyone else for the connection.

So how long would your connection need for a 76 GB download? Go ahead, make my day!

EDIT: They have promised us a fast connection by March 2022, but I will believe it when I see it.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:03 pm
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A few weeks back, on 25mbps = 7hrs or so.

Now, we've changed to 5G broadband and getting *runs speed test* around 100-150mbps, so about 1.5hrs.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:07 pm
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If it's any comfort I bought and downloaded Red Dead Redemption 2 the day before taking a business trip.

Arrived nice and early in my Premier Inn and loaded it up... another 4gb download was required on the spot. Premier inn's WiFi was giving me an eta measured using the years on Uranus. Ended up driving up the road for a few miles to get 4G and downloading the lot in a matter of half an hour or so (can't remember).


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:08 pm
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Was on 60mbs at our old house. Teaching guitar online 3 days a week so good internet is a must.

Now living on a farm and a good day is 1mbs, so basically pointless. Had to get an unlimited data sim (luckily we get decent 4g) but still not good enough to teach on so I've had to rent a space at a local music shop.....which means it'd have probably been easier to just sack it off and go full time as a delivery driver!

Allegedly we're getting super fast in June.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:11 pm
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We're on allegedly the fastest talk-talk can do round here. It runs between 10mbps and 15mbps on a good day.

Just about enough to stream Netflix, etc. But god forbid I try to do a video meeting on Teams at the same time.

I tried to upload 100mb of files to dropbox the other evening, it said it was going to take 4 hours.
I put it on a memory stick and drove it round instead!


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:11 pm
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76GB for a game!! Is that usual?


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:14 pm
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A few weeks back, on 25mbps = 7hrs or so.

Now, we’ve changed to 5G broadband and getting *runs speed test* around 100-150mbps, so about 2.5hrs.

~5 times faster, so... nearer 1.5 hours?


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:16 pm
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I put it on a memory stick and drove it round instead!

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/20jlv3/never_underestimate_the_bandwidth_of_a_station/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:18 pm
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^^^

years ago I was involved in some ‘big data’ exchange with the US. Hard drives via DHL was quicker than the internet. not sure if it’s still the case.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:21 pm
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~5 times faster, so… nearer 1.5 hours?

Yes, 1.5hrs, miss typed.

I was hitting nearly 200mbps at one point (but with a slightly unstable connection) and I saw 1gb download in 45 seconds, and a 63gb game take around 50 minutes.

Prior to that, a 58gb game took 8-9 hours....


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:27 pm
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76GB for a game!! Is that usual?

These days, yep.

Normal is 50+GB, and it's not uncommon to see some games hit 100GB.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:32 pm
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Dunno what ours is - I poked a cable through a small hole in the wall from our house to my friends printing business next door that has a (free) megafast connection!


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:36 pm
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So how long would your connection need for a 76 GB download? Go ahead, make my day!

About 13 minutes.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:38 pm
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We get a consistent 25mbps, which is fine for most stuff.

A friend of mine recently upgraded to gigabit (I think that's what it's called).
He gets something like 980Mbps!!
So could probably download the game in under 2 mins!


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:44 pm
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My youview telebox hd thing has thrown a strop and no refuses to to talk to the router. Tried the utterly useless online ( no) help page. Pressed their respective reset buttons, tried different cat5 cabling, tried a usb cable.
Freeveiw juzt blame the bb connection, when a ping often reveals 56mbs and a stable wi fi the laptop and mobile are more than happy to talk to.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:44 pm
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OP
Living in the outback,that'll learn yea 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:50 pm
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100mbps here, just checked and have 1Gig available in my area now


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:51 pm
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We get less than 1mb most days...they advertise at 4 but we've never got that high.

open reach just haven't bothered with the 392 houses in our 'village' so we are taking our broadband from over a mile away.

This isn't in the middle of nowhere, right between Stourbridge and Wolverhampton.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:54 pm
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76gb ?? dear god, better be worth it.
Which game incidentally ?

If youre interested you can download Planetside 2 which rather than being actual game files its (I think) an app, with all the info stored on their side so you can pretty much get straight into it.

Good game, 4 main servers and very fast connections so even US servers(I find West coast USA to be one of the busiest) and theres always something going on, and always really intense battles no matter the time.
Plus the game zone is split into segments, so if you find yourself having a bad day and getting killed a lot, you can redeploy to another sector.
It is often like this - Vid and they have night and day battles

I am the king of the claymores. Double them up and its a guaranteed kill, and im really sneaky about where I place them


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:55 pm
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76 seconds if I plug in via a good Ethernet cable


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 7:59 pm
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According to an online calculator at the 1.5mbs we have here it would be similar to the OP's download time - 4 Days 21 Hours 27 Minutes 0.61 Seconds to be precise.

Supposed to be fibre broadband coming in the autumn...


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:02 pm
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A couple of years ago on the BT supplied "Broadband" I was usually on less than 1mbps. It was too slow to watch anything streamed so had to download anything we wanted to watch so we didn't bother.

But one week I missed Ski Sunday so downloaded it.

A 45 min SD programme.

It to 27hrs to download.

I now have a 4g router and can stream stuff but I'm limited to 200gb per month.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:02 pm
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Now living on a farm and a good day is 1mbs

If you're in their catchment area, go talk to B4RN.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:07 pm
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In our little village, we’re on 900mbs so fast I can download my own future.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:27 pm
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A few years ago my partner used to have to transfer large data sets to other places, her IT dept made up a suitcase for her, with 500tb capacity. Still took a day or so to load it up on their network. Then they bought 2x Cray XC40s.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:33 pm
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Last Destiny 2 “update” for PS4 was 70 odd GB and took 8 days as they patched it a few days into the download and had to start from scratch. Local exchange is fibre enabled but in our village we are 2.5 miles away on decades old copper. No plans for BT to improve in next 5 years. Neighbour trying to gather numbers for community grant application but half the village are over 70 and not exactly data hungry users. Only 45 homes in village and 4 business so need most of that to get anywhere.
4g signal variable and would need outside aerial on wrong side of house.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:36 pm
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^ we've just got over the line for the rural broadband scheme... Took a lot of door knocking and convincing!


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 8:38 pm
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76GB? 10-15 minutes? We’re on 1Gbps at home but I find that with PS4 game downloads the server seems <span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">to be the bottleneck.</span>

for massive data transfers like multi-terabyte sequencing data or petabyte collections don’t folks move the analysis to where the data are? <span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Irrespective, back in the day (2010) we used HDDs and couriers to move multi-gig or terabyte immunohistochemistry and radiology collections. Even with fat pipes it was just easier that way. </span>


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 9:05 pm
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7mb here, for some bizarre reason when we went to fibre it got slower so they moved us back..

Ended up upgrading my phone Sim to ultimated data at fastest speed so the kids use that as a tethered hotspot to download games and updates. Haven’t been pinged for any fair use violation either. 4G gives me a consistent 35mb download


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 9:14 pm
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In a fairly remote highland glen - we have a 20MB 4G package with EE, and despite having been snowed-in for most of the last month, we'll struggle to use it all. If my browser logs me out of STW, half of it is probably consumed waiting for pages to load...


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 9:22 pm
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How much are people paying for their 1Gbps connections?  I love the idea but I'm not sure I would like the price


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 9:32 pm
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£51pm. Hyperoptic


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 9:52 pm
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2hrs 25mins, apparently. Which means that, by the time you are able to read this as your download chugs your bandwidth, I'll be done. 🙂

Of course, the game will launch and immediately require another 30gb patch...


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 10:02 pm
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51squids doesn't sound as bad as I thought it would be


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 10:17 pm
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According to some internet calculator thingie - 49 minutes and 27 seconds.

If it makes you feel any better, my parents (Cornwall) were told they'd never have decent broadband and got a grant for satellite broadband. That was ok but pricey and the satellites got overloaded regularly which hampered speeds.
Then they went to an EE 4G router which was much cheaper, just about as fast and more reliable.
Then, out of the blue, they get FTTP last year and 150mb all day long - to a village of 20 houses.

So there is some hope of your internet connection speeding up.

If all else fails there's always Starlink.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 10:26 pm
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We hopefully move to the sticks in summer and will be on B4RN so rather bizarrely umpteen times faster than we are now in civilisation :-). £150 connection fee and £30 / month which seems pretty reasonable for Gigabit. And as a community venture you can go on dig days to help expand it out of the village.


 
Posted : 16/02/2021 10:27 pm
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Bloody hell. Signed up a month ago with Zen, mainly because ee pissed me off and to get a better router (16mb on fibre so trying to eke out every cubic cm of interweb).

This thread made me go check bt openreach to see what I can get - FTTP! Gigabit. So now I'm going to have to ring Zen and see if I can swap with less than 1 month gone. They don't seem to be offering 900mbps but I'll happily take 100 or 300 right now. Finally I might be able to complete pornhub.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 7:18 am
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I'm on Zen 500/70Mbit FTTP or so - a bit of an upgrade from the 2-3Mbit we got before. We all spent months following the progress of the van and digger as the ducting and fibre was installed by Openreach.

It really is night and day difference. Gone are the days of getting the kids to put all devices in airplane mode when we want to watch something or FaceTime the relatives.

@Rich_s, I was on an old 330 package from them before but they were quite happy to switch me over to the faster one (which was actually cheaper). I had to restart my contract period but not worried about that as I'm pretty impressed by them. You're not resetting yours by much if you're only a month in anyway.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 8:06 am
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I have Zen gigabit, get these speeds, but it still takes 20-30 minutes for a 90GB game. Past about 350mbps it's the 'other end' that throttles you.

I've just switched from Virgin as this is actually cheaper but for real world use there's no practical difference between this and the 150mbps Virgin offered.

It's actually dropped out a couple of times mid call of duty which is harrowing. 🤓


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 8:15 am
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We're also rural, so at the start of lockdown we contracted an additional broadband connection with our neighbour via long-distance WIFI - BT was +10MB down and +1MB up. The new WIFI is +20MB up and down.

https://www.borderlink.co.uk/

The idea was to drop our existing BT telephone cable line when it was due for renewal.

But, we're going to keep both to ensure we've contingency as my OH has been WFH for about 3 years and I'm expecting no more than 50/50 office based once all the lock down lifts.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 8:38 am
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Download it at work then play at home?

We have 150+ in the office.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 8:55 am
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76 seconds if I plug in via a good Ethernet cable

Not unless it's a 10Gbps connection...


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 8:59 am
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5mb on a good day, which is apparently 36 hours. That's on Virgin 4G. Still, better than the phoneline that preceded it.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:01 am
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I’m very rural here. BT reluctantly provided us with less than 1mbps do and and about 0.1 up. Absolutely useless. Now use an unlimited 4G EE Sim at £45 per month for part of the site and a local company Locheilnet who provide us with an over the air solution for similar cost. Both very reliable and pretty much the same price. Speeds are 40mbps up and down.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:06 am
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Download it at work then play at home?

True, he could be getting 70-80mbps in the top field.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:11 am
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Thanks @euain

Job jobbed! Going to be a while before it gets installed, but I'm quite excited!


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:25 am
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We used to have sub 1meg. Often got better internet offshore in Africa .....

They built a large commercial stables down the road and they brought in fibre.

We now get 25 meg which is fine for me....better than alot of my buddy's in town 🙂


 
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There's always a bottle neck at the other end, but assuming not.

About 10mins in work, 30 mins via 5G at home, although it would take me 16Gb over my monthly allowance or about 75 mins via Virgin at home. In reality though, it's going to be a couple of hours because Xbox stores at least can't seem to squeeze out more than 40-60Mbps anyway.

I know the OPs pain though, our, old, old place was a brand new house with FTTP, but OpenReach didn't upgrade the cabinet until about 3 weeks before we moved out. We used to get about 4Mbps, or close to 0 when Jnr was watching YT on his Tablet. 6 years I lived there with a fancy little fibre connection coming into the house, connected to a cabinet from the 1800s.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:47 am
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You can sign up for Starlink now in the UK

https://www.businessinsider.com/starlink-first-uk-resident-set-up-spacex-internet-service2021-1?r=US&IR=T


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:49 am
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Are Switch games much smaller then? We seem to fit loads on the memory card which I think was only a couple of hundred gig.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 9:55 am
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I sent off the token we got through the door a while back to get connected to FTTP but didnt notice you actually needed a contract to get connected, thought it was more a note of interest thing. looked at some reviews and zen looked promising but the 900mb service is about 90 a month. we are getting 50-60 with plusnet for I think £25 a month and it's been good for years so probably stick with that.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 11:25 am
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Ahhh back in the days of original ADSL when it went from 2Mb to 8 (ADSL II?) I was with Virgin Media and all of a sudden my Upload was faster than my Download (500kpbs 300kbps down IIRC). Usual calls to Virgin Media it was all about my router, cabling, filters etc. I provided my own router at the time.

Moved to Zen. Same router. Problem went away got close to the 8Mbps down at the time.


 
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Are Switch games much smaller then? We seem to fit loads on the memory card which I think was only a couple of hundred gig.

Yeah, Nintendo typically focus on gameplay rather than flashy graphics.

A Nintendo title, like a Zelda game or something will be around 10GB, some of the 3rd party titles are as big as 25GB to 30GB.

30GB is about the starting point for a current Xbox or PS game (PS4 or 5 era) but that would be a fairly basic one. RDR2 was the first one I knew of to break the 100GB barrier, although some earlier games could easily break that will add-ones and DLC. I think one of the newer COD games is well over 150GB, although lord knows why, they're not exactly huge maps or massively interactive environments. It's probably because they seem to need to bang out another rehash of the same game (or even a polished up version of an old one) every year, when some big titles are 5 years in the making.


 
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I'd very much be jumping on a big fat FTTP connection the moment I can throw money at it, but have to admit I've had a line fault for the last 10 days that has dropped me from 60mpbs to 24Mpbs and it has made very little difference to my life.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 1:06 pm
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openreach were on my street yesterday putting in a fttp link. Their website recons I can get 1gbps, but I just signed up to another year at 30mbps (not even the limit of our fttc connection) as I have no use for anything faster than that. Would be good for bragging rights, though 🙂

edit : bt will give me 900mbps estimated for £60/month (450mbps guaranteed). bit spendy for me


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 1:19 pm
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31 minutes. We are on Virgin 350Mb service at £36 a month. Apparently we could go up to 1Gb but 350 is more than enough for us - me working from home on zoom/team video confs most of the day, 2 kids playing online and talking to mates on houseparty, wife browsing/facebooking.


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 2:13 pm
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4g here at 24mps approx

Landline internet sub 1.....

Giffgaff paye sim unlimited data 35 quid


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 2:31 pm
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Same. Landline 3 or 4. 4G - 60/70 down 14/18 up. Three £22 unlimited 🙂


 
Posted : 17/02/2021 2:44 pm
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Well that is just over 4 days of downloading done and dusted. Home straight now. Less than 1 GB to go and showing about 1 hour 15 minutes at current speeds. I had hoped to get it finished by midnight so I could call it a birthday pressie to myself. Unfortunately looks like I will just miss out 🙁


 
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65 seconds here ish on three 5G - regularly manages over 1gig. £14 a month at the moment but there’s a fair usage limit of 1 terrabyte 🙂

They are just about to upgrade the cell site to 10Gbps...


 
Posted : 19/02/2021 11:30 pm
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A few folk here getting their MBps and Mbps confused.

If you have 1Gbps (1 gigabit, small b) then that's 1000Mbit (1024 megabits) which divides by 8 to give you 1024/8 = 128Megabytes per second. That's theoretical max, as a rough guide divide by 10 - so 1 gigabit gets you 100megabyte a second. Which would be 13 minutes ish, not 65 seconds ish.

Of course if you're on wifi, that's probably a bottleneck on a 1gig connection.


 
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IA - correct! My ability to do simple maths seems to have vanished during lockdown


 
Posted : 20/02/2021 9:42 am
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30mbps here in the middle of nowhere’ish on a microwave thing as opposed to an allegedly virgin 200mbps.

I was going to upgrade to 100mbps but interestingly when you get the consistent speed that you’ve signed for it’s not that bad.

I’m currently awaiting my Starlink dish as I’m sorta wanting to go off grid with a solar powered setup not reliant on the local power grid 🙂


 
Posted : 20/02/2021 10:04 am
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IA – correct! My ability to do simple maths seems to have vanished during lockdown

I suppose the big issue is whether your porn feed is streaming like a bad vhs movie , where they’ve stretched the tape by the constant pausing of the good parts.:-)


 
Posted : 20/02/2021 10:12 am
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Have flip-flopped on my opinion of BT. Ordered Wednesday with Zen; BT-O came to survey where to dig on Thursday! Amazeballs. And confirmed we should be priority as we are <30mbps now... mind you, they did say that the usual date for digging the trench would be April.

NB, I reserve the right to change my mind on BT at any time and without notice.


 
Posted : 20/02/2021 11:09 am
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15 down .4 up been in contact with OReach who will happily run FTtp if all 678 houses in area form a legal entity to give them £250k so stuck with what we get do you 4/5G guys get decent uploads ?


 
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Happy Birthday (for yesterday) Welshfarmer!


 
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