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When looking at the OS map of Kent for bike rides I always thought it odd that the Isle Of Oxney was called an isle. Just assumed it was because it’s higher than the surrounding area.
Now I know why. Must have been absolutely horrific.
https://www.villagenet.co.uk/history/1287-storms.php?fbclid=IwAR2Pxju71h96OrCh4ddri37OMeiz9QVRb4THRM0_XOVu47havGDqIZ13KS0
Interesting! I knew nothing about that, must have been a brutal storm.
Thanks, a happy hour whiled away examining costal geography 🙂
Hastings Castle on Google Earth is very clearly half gone.
Very interesting - MrsMC is a Sussex lass so I knew the coastline had moved but never realised quite how dramatic some of it had been.
Interesting, thanks! 🙂
Bet they didn't have thundersnow though, or the Beast from the East or any of that other calamitous shit. Middle-age softies.
Similar story up here in Northumberland where the storm was so ferocious it moved dunes and the course of the river at Alnmouth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Alnmouth
Bristol Channel Tsunami..
https://www.burnham-on-sea.com/history/1607-flood/
Which was the one that submerged Doggerland?
Edit: just looked, that was 6000BC, and it was a tsunami caused by 300km of underwater shelf collapsing off Norway. Can't get my head round it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storegga_Slide
Which was the one that submerged Doggerland?
To think you still see refugees from that event huddled at night in the wooded car parks of the south east.
@cloudnine - the current thinking is that it was a storm surge rather than a tsunami as there's no evidence elsewhere on the coasts of France, Ireland and Wales to support a tsunami.
Doggerland had been shrinking and drowning for thousands of years. The writing was always on the wall, the tsunami or other inundation probably just wiped out the last of the inhabitants after their land had become too low lying.
Even as recently as 53 we were reminded that the North sea does whatever it wants and there is very little we can do about it.
As @Molgrips says. In the few cores from Doggerbank, there are high energy sands, which potentially record the tsunami, that are concurrent with the drowning of the terrestrial landscape. However there was quite a lot of coastal barrier movement at that time so it’s not a simple story. See recent work by one of my PhD students:
Storegga tsunami dates to c. 8.1 ka. There was also a period of rapidly rising sea level around 8.2 ka, due to the final melt of the North American ice sheet - so a lot going on at the same time to lead to the final submergence of the North Sea.
At @whitestone - modelling by a colleague at York (unfortunately not yet published) shows the wave likely did hit the Netherlands (previous models weren’t run for long enough) but the wave was probably only 0.1-0.3 m, so any sedimentary record would be very limited and patchy, if present at all. The wave wouldn’t be expected to hit Ireland with any significant height due to it having to work it’s way round northern Scotland.
I might leave STW now, as this is literally the only topic I can contribute to with any authority, and it’s never going to happen again 🙂
OP - this is a database of UK storm events put together from historical records, by a colleague from Uni of Southampton, that you might find interesting.
I was referring to the Bristol Channel event in 1607 so a little later than the Storegga event and the 1287 storm.
From the article
<b><span style="font-size: small;">The old harbour is where the Shopping Centre in Hastings can be found.</span></b>
Well that might explain why everyone in the vicinity looks like they've been dredged up from the bottom of the sea.😊
Sorry @whitestone - my bad. Got carried away with Storegga and didn’t cross check.
Some interesting stuff on the 1607 storm https://www.surgewatch.org/events/7532/
That Wikipedia link is fascinating. The supposed temperature related events are interesting, and worrying.
The supposed temperature related events are interesting, and worrying.
This is a well written piece on why storm surges might be a greater hazard under warmer temperatures (hurricanes are a specific issue with warmer ocean temps, which are the source areas for such events) https://www.pnas.org/content/114/45/11806
Well if Tenerife finally blows we’ll see what a Tsunami can do to the US East Coast.
From the Wikipedia link... What about the cloud of poisonous gas from Iceland that floated over and suffocated the locals! What a rubbish day that must have been.
What about the cloud of poisonous gas from Iceland that floated over and suffocated the locals! What a rubbish day that must have been.
I was reading that and then though 'if it can happen once...'
It happened somewhere I think in Asia, but it wasn't even a volcanic eruption. The local lake was fairly deep and stuff had been falling into it for centuries or millenia and decomposing, releasing CO2. But the pressure had kept it in solution all that time. Then something happened - perhaps a land slip, which disturbed the layers and the CO2 saturated water rose to the top, all the CO2 fizzed out of the water and flowed down the valley asphyxiating all the people and animals.
EDIT sorry, it was in Cameroon in 1986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster