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You know what's ridiculous is that something is challenged and it literally is throw-the-teddies-out because it doesn't fit posters' expectations or understandings.
Even more hilarious the idea that "the six" (it's a STW western) are controlling the STW political debate when there are dozens of other threads full of the same noise (Farage, Trump, Tories on and on) and it be okay to spout hours and hours of the same stuff.
I've been told to bore-off, give it a rest, shut up etc and not once have I cleared off crying and felt the need to set up a thread complaining about those people that they're killing the forum.
Instead of taking your Starmer frustrations out on people who challenge your rigidly held ideas (sometimes without zero evidence other than what the Guardian has said.) maybe go to the source of your disappointment - the government itself. The fact that you may have given up on the Starmer thread proves you maybe cannot find the words to defend him and that's fine too. Kudos to certain posters who are still doing that - I enjoy their company.
And let's not talk about ideological purity. It's bloody embarrassing that you've not noticed.
Get on your bike and it all melts away - care a bit less about what others say.
and they’re just permanently angry and unpleasant
I mean. Seriously.
Back on topic - things change, maybe MTB is not as popular these days in the form it was. Most of my mates have given in to the 50's fade.
To stretch the pub metaphor to breaking point, what this place needs is a group of tipsy and over emotional partners to scream "Leave him, 'e ain't worf it!" at the appropriate moment and maybe it would calm down.
Or there could just be a settling of scores in the carpark that is another thread after closing time.
I like to think of this place as a pub. If someone walked into any pub and announced, "There are 5 or 6 people in this room who are utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling ****s all competing in their Taliban-esque way, for some inexplicable reason, to signal how idealogically pure they are" then I'm not sure why anyone would expect there to be no response from anyone in the room.
I think I'd probably cock an eye sideways out of my cosy snug, wonder what sort of bad day they'd had, then go back to my pint and chatting to my mates or anyone else vaguely convivial. I guess if they came and sat down at the table with me, I might respond, but probably only by ignoring them.
The main difference between this place and a pub is that it's far easier online to be drawn into some sort of pointless spat, not least because you're not risking being smacked in the gob.
TLDR: why bother responding at all? Spotting grumpy nutters and avoiding them is a useful life skill 🙂
Been here since 2011 but was present before the great hack
I'm obviously older and do think this is a less pleasant place. My experience around Christmas backed that up. Had a tough but ultimately less bad experience and really just needed to speak but one of the usual know it all voices came rumbling in to say I'd done wrong then to say that their post had been misquoted.
I left for 4months and won't be renewing my membership, when it runs out that'll be it.
This forum has been supportive of many, some of the cancer threads have been truly inspiring and heartbreaking.
Very funny, like laugh out loud funny.
Helpful, I've solved problems I didn't even know I had, seals around double glazing.
But it's more of a trudge than delight and really who has time to reread the same argument on seemingly a dozen different threads.
I just skimmed back through my emails. It's probably not a comprehensive account due to time, but you got a week off for telling someone to go **** themselves. Which you acknowledged and quite graciously apologised to us for via email. That was in 2019.
Oh, I remember, don't worry about that - he was being gratuitously offensive and I got the ban, no warning, just straight out the door for a week. No complaints from my side, but it did spring to mind after reading this thread - I just don't engage any more.
I've hardly been on since the last update. I just found it really clunky and difficult to use so I stopped visiting.
I did wonder why someone with clearly such a keen and deep interest in UK politics should suddenly and abruptly stop posting on the UK government thread.
and
The political threads used to be both more interesting and useful imo because at one time there was a genuine diversity of political opinions, and as scotroutes points out there was much more "banter"
..surely you must recognise yourself as one of the "six" identified by posters on this thread as one of the reasons why they don't contribute to some threads; being that your singular activity on this site is the 3-4 current political threads? And yet at the same time you seem to be unable to identify the common denominator, and accuse others of a lack of awareness.
kettle black pot something something.
This is the only place on the Internet that I regularly visit and has been a great source of information for me for many years and I'm sure that will carry on.
My interest in social media in general has passed, thankfully, it's boring.
As has been said previously, I often begin to type but then think, am I really adding anything of value, and delete and move on. And no way would I ever comment on a political thread but I do enjoy reading them.
I'm sat here in my camper posting this, where I've been reading the actual magazine while drinking my coffee, still lots to love about Singletrack 😎
I was just wondering if instead of complaining about the demise of the forum we could look at the postitives and build on those to try and make it a better place to be.
The things that stand out for me are the willingness of people on the forum to help others, this is a massive positive. This place helped me when I had a toxic work situation and problems with depression and stress, It didn't post about it but a bit of bike therapy and some fun on the forum distracted me for a bit and help me get through my problems.
The articles/ posts I have enjoyed are people travel tales examples that stand out are Amanda's trip to Spain and TJ's recovery ride.
May be the mysterious Singletrack overlords could look at broadening the sites offerings to be a little less "hard core bike park" and "summits of mountains"
They have done this from time to time with bike packing and inclusive cycling articles.
Can we try to move on and be positive.
This place just needs more silliness and piss-taking in general, it's a forum, it's supposed to be a bit undignified and anarchic. There is nostalgia for 10+ year-old 'classic' threads but not a lot of sign of the right conditions for next one showing up or enough energy to sustain one if it does.
Meh, you can’t manufacture such things, dare I say it this place is falling prey to the same issues as the rest of the internet.
The online safety act has already caused other smaller sites to get out of the game, compliance measures will have a chilling effect on this place.
And for all of STWs storied history, it’s never been the most controversial corner of the internet. I only ended up here as I’m not Canadian enough for pinkbike and very sadly the (MTB focussed) chocolate foot forum (don’t google it) died in the late 00’s. STW was always the tame place for IT managers to discuss XTR and their mortgage rate for us real Edge Lords 😉
I probably post less now and that is mainly due to how slow the forum was and how clunky and problematic it is still. Eight seconds to post a reply just now and quoting or posting a picture seems to be a lot harder than it was.
The Starmer thread is easy enough to avoid but the underlying pita to use the forum less so.
6percent but useable forum you takes your choices pinkbike and mtbrvhave both been around as long as this forum it appears and at least has a diverse range of users
head over to eMTB forum there’s thousands
On a forum for eMTB’s? Honestly, are they really the sort of people you’d like to engage with on the wide range of topics that we’ve discussed on here over many years?
How's the weather up on that high horse? There are a more than a few people who are members of both forums, would you like a list so you know who to dismiss on here?
I just found it really clunky and difficult to use
I try to see it as part of the slightly ramshackle hipster charm....
Forums do come and go. Magicseaweed was my fave back in the day (I was johnjohn, hence john times two on here), once mega active and I still surf with folks I met via the forum, but it was dying for a long time - no idea why - before the owner put it out of its misery.
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I like to think of this place as a pub. If someone walked into any pub and announced, "There are 5 or 6 people in this room who are utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling ****s all competing in their Taliban-esque way, for some inexplicable reason, to signal how idealogically pure they are" then I'm not sure why anyone would expect there to be no response from anyone in the room.
My response would be to buy them a pint 🙂
Forums need big characters to bounce off each other whether nicely or less nicely. I'm not one, obv, and am well behaved partly as I have real life friends who lurk on here sometimes and I'd rather they didn't think I was more of a **** than is actually the case. But I do like to see a bit of drama as long as it's not too real life. I avoid the real life problems threads and am quite happy to post something vaguely pro-govt and stay for a short discussion/get called a "centrist", neo-liberal or worst of all "moderate" for my pains. Going around being moderate (I'm not fwiw)... But that's okay isn't it?
I guess my point is that it takes a bit of grit (I'm thinking surfmat/matteeboy on msw), characters I don't have to like but who add to the entertainment/merriment?
Anyway that's all just chat, the bikes threads are pretty handy.
This is the only place on the Internet that I regularly visit and has been a great source of information for me for many years and I'm sure that will carry on.
My interest in social media in general has passed, thankfully, it's boring.
As has been said previously, I often begin to type but then think, am I really adding anything of value, and delete and move on. And no way would I ever comment on a political thread but I do enjoy reading them.
I'm sat here in my camper posting this, where I've been reading the actual magazine while drinking my coffee, still lots to love about Singletrack 😎
You've just described me too (minus the camper).
I'm typing this and already thinking about deleting it rather than clicking 'add reply' as I don't know if my reply's adding much value, but I won't - I'll post it anyway.
I'm not a prolific poster anywhere online but STW is the ONLY place I still feel comfortable posting on. There's no user on here I'd not be comfortable meeting in person for a coffee or beer, or even a bike ride. There's nowhere else online I can say that about.
Take it elsewhere Ernie you’ve just demonstrated why some people don’t interact on the forum.
The platform is hopeless, I've got older and have a busier life, and certain loud mouthed bullies get a free pass. None of this is a complaint, just an explanation of why I CBA with it most of the time.
Awww, I missed it.Take it elsewhere Ernie you’ve just demonstrated why some people don’t interact on the forum.
The platform is hopeless, I've got older and have a busier life, and certain loud mouthed bullies get a free pass. None of this is a complaint, just an explanation of why I CBA with it most of the time.
But well done for sticking to the new forum guidelines:
Ensure you make oblique references to individual characters for best effect.
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I just lurk most of the time, the STW slogan thing "came for the bikes, stayed for the bollocks" sums me up nicely. 😀
This thread is fairly depressing and strangely fascinating in equal measure. Dunno about you lot but I ran out of popcorn on page 2.
(Do I have anything helpful to add? No I do not.)
Take it elsewhere Ernie you’ve just demonstrated why some people don’t interact on the forum.
And you think that describing people with different personal opinions to yours as "utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling ****s all competing in their Taliban-esque way" encourages people to interact on the forum?
Well if that is the attitude of a moderator I guess it helps to explain why the once political diversity on STW, which reflected wider society, no longer exists.
And that particular rant was directed at Lefties, can you imagine the hyperbole in a rant directed at any Tories on STW....... should they exist?
I don't post as often as I did solely because the forum is technically and cosmetically the worst web page/forum I have ever used and I can't be bothered with it.
And you think that describing people with different personal opinions to yours as "utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling ****s all competing in their Taliban-esque way" encourages people to interact on the forum?
It seems to have 🤔
This thread is fairly depressing and strangely fascinating in equal measure. Dunno about you lot but I ran out of popcorn on page 2.
In my head it's become "the long standing spite and grudges thread". No different to the real world where events over the last 20 years influence who is most likely to ride alongside whom on my MTB club rides. The difference here is that it's not 7 or 8 separate private conversations going on, everyone is listening in on everyone else's conversation and throws in a grudge based spiteful remark when the occasion presents. We've got to know each other a bit too well and some family feuds rage on.
"utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling ****s all competing in their Taliban-esque way"
This is why there's no political diversity on here, not because someone has pointed out they exist.
Nowt much to add except I've never understood why do folk get so upset over words on a screen?, I've never reported anything mentioned/said/implied on any forum as its far easier to have a wee giggle/laugh/shake of the head as to the mentality of some folk hiding behind a keyboard.
I'm quite happy being called all the ****s under the sun and my response would be "crack on, your obviously winning at life" or summit similar, having lived in a fishing town most of my life and worked in a local pub from the age of 20 probably helped me develop a very thick skin as to pretty much daily verbal abuse and fights etc.
I'm not sure if I'm comfortable sharing a space where so many seem convinced there is a secret cabal of 'utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling *s all competing in their Taliban-esque way' controlling the direction of discourse on here.
Are these 'utterly Joyless, humourless, sanctimonious, self-righteous, holier-than-though, virtue-signalling *s all competing in their Taliban-esque way' people in the room with you now?
Edit: I have no idea why there is red in my post.
This forum seems unhappy with copy/paste.
And that particular rant was directed at Lefties,
The politics or having alternate views is not the issue, it's the way some people debate that is the issue. I wouldn't say it in quite the way it was said above, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that the MO and constant hectoring in the end made me walk away from the politics threads, so I'm disappointed that unable to get the argument they want there it now spills over into any viable thread.
Nowt much to add except I've never understood why do folk get so upset over words on a screen?, I've never reported anything mentioned/said/implied on any forum as its far easier to have a wee giggle/laugh/shake of the head as to the mentality of some folk hiding behind a keyboard.
A comment often made. And yet some people do take those words seriously. In the end sufficient to make them walk away.
Some say that the politics threads are poorer place because of the lack of engagement, yet when it's explained why the response is to put the problem on the recipient. Get over it, it's not real life. It's just words on a screen. Have a giggle and shake your head. Stop playing the victim.... not a hint of moderating the way they behave.
That's my opinion, and why I'm out.
Edit: I have no idea why there is red in my post.
Bracketing text with three asterisks either side.
Get over it, it's not real life. It's just words on a screen.
Yeah, this is a bugbear of mine. Of course it's real life. It might just be "words on a screen" but it's actual real live people at the other end of those words, not a chatbot (for now anyway😁).
To recycle the 'pub' analogy, we wouldn't say "get over it, it's not real life, it's just a bloke in the pub," that would be nonsensical.
Nowt much to add except I've never understood why do folk get so upset over words on a screen?, I've never reported anything mentioned/said/implied on any forum as its far easier to have a wee giggle/laugh/shake of the head as to the mentality of some folk hiding behind a keyboard.
It's the classic thing where some people regard the internet as being an extension of 'real life' and behave accordingly while others have the idea that somehow because it's on a screen and they are to some degree anonymous, they can say whatever they like with impunity because, hey, it's 'just the internet'. Obviously it's more nuanced than that and there are other things at play too, like the seeming inability of irony to survive contact with digital communication.
Personally I try not to say anything on here that I wouldn't say in real life, but also to be mindful that some people think of it as some sort of game. Also that in most arguments, there are competing solutions, each of which have some element of validity, even if on balance I am always right 🙂
Words on screens led to folk trying to attack a hotel filled with people.
Words on screens led to folk trying to attack a hotel filled with people.
"Hurty" words on screens have led to jail time.
You are playing the victim, theotherjonv. You are very provocative at times and fully aware of it as you tend to start threads with things like "Not wanting to start and argument but I suspect I will" followed with a prejudiced rant about someone you present as a stereotypical foreigner. That's on a forum with a happy bunch of expat and immigrant members, like me. So you rant away and play the victim when those targetted fight back.
To other people on here we are the sum of our posting history, it's in that context that we should be evaluating other members' reactions to us.
Absolutely certain TJagain. I wasn't going to link it but as you doubt me:
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/off-topic/is-being-foreign-a-protected-characteristic/
Given how I felt I think you'll find my contributions to that thread are quite calm, TJagain.
I'll let it drop there mods, but the lack of self-awareness of some on this thread is irritating. I had that troll tag for years and I one thing my STW persona definitely doesn't lack is self-awareness, or awareness of what others are doing knowingly or obliviously.
The pub analogy has been mentioned a few times. In a pub, non-verbal contributors in a group conversation would nod along, shrug their shoulders or shake their heads.
I for one wouldn't like to see a load of emoticons adding to the site, but what's the reason why so many forums including this one have upvotes, but no downvotes for those who don't want to take time to write out a reply? I think they'd help some posters read the room a lot better...
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Wow. I knew there was a reason you don't like me but I didn't realise it stems from one thread from 4.5 years ago. Which having briefly skimmed, I'm still surprised about, even you said from a 'provocative' opening statement it was a reasonable question and debate IIRC
It's not just one thread, theotherjonv. You can please some people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. On a forum with hundreds of contributors with people from different backgrounds, cultures, religions, countries there will be people you share values with and other less so. There are members on here (whom I'll spare the embarrassment) that generally post stuff I find interesting and often agree with, others less so. For other people it will be a different set of members they feel more or less affinity with.
You can't/don't have to get on with everyone but as on that thread I linked you can keep it civil which we did.
Hopefully the forum is better for having us both around with our diverse views. Just because some randoms on the Internet don't always like what you type it doesn't mean you aren't welcome. Well that's what I work on. 😉
Well, thanks for the honesty and I'm mortified if it's something I do regularly enough to be a problem, but I really am struggling to see where and consequently what I need to do differently. But I'll bear it in mind in future.
You're right - there are plenty on here that I disagree with but on a civil level. You included; you and Madame hold some views (and I accept completely your right to hold them) that I find impossible to accept. That is not the issue.
Just because some randoms on the Internet don't always like what you type it doesn't mean you aren't welcome.
You say that, I no longer feel welcome - or rather, I keep getting 'invited back in' so they can continue the goading, and I'm not up for that.
Jonv - it takes two to tango and although I have clashed with you a wee bit I view you as one of the good ones partly because you gently let me know I had upset you rather than attacking
Guys - can we get this back off the personal?
I arranged to have it appear ilke that. My power and influence around here is virtually limitless
Wait, there's more than one cabal secretly controlling the forum?
If there's a schedule can we see it in advance? I'd prefer to only post when the joyless taliban is in charge.
My suggestion is that if you believe in it then own what you say, there's no need to be mortified or feel victimised. And consider that most other people aren't goading they're just expressing their views. Some will goad, Morecashthandash is doing it to me on the 6 thread right now and my reply was "----------------". Sometimes there's a school playground aspect to it with a number of kids ganging up, less than there used to be though. The "banter" that some are so nostagic about was shallow and unpleasant at times. When the target of it I took the view that people were revealing more about themselves than about me. I sometimes felt I was holding up a mirror to them but some of them didn't want to look in it. I rarely find the need to do that these days.
And if you have a happy life and this place doesn't make it happier then just take a breath of air outside, but leave the door open.
I'm off to walk to the DIY store. All the best to all of you.
I'd prefer to only post when the joyless taliban is in charge.
Don't hold your breath. The chances of them reforming after that mix up when they appeared on the same bill as Girlschool at Donington in '87 are pretty slim.
I'd prefer to only post when the joyless taliban is in charge.
I think their stoic nature gives them a bad rep.
Look at them living their best life, oppressing women and sending it large in paddle boats.
Joyless? I think not.
For what my opinion is worth, whilst I've said repeatedly that I'm bad at tracking names, Otherjonv is a name I recognise of course but it's never 'pinged' sufficiently for me to go "oh FFS, it's him again." The thread cited above seemed a reasonable question to me. We shouldn't be shying away from discussing difficult subjects.
Edukator's "troll" tag was a joke that went on far too long IMHO. It would've been (arguably) funny for a couple of days. Point of note here, the Moderators have no access to those tags so they weren't able to change it back. It was part of the subscription engine I think?
My suggestion is that if you believe in it then own what you say, there's no need to be mortified or feel victimised.
That's advice like 'ignore it, it's just words' - it's a personality flaw but I do care about what people think so if I'm regularly annoying people then I want to adjust; even if my opinion doesn't change, how I present it can. It cuts both ways. There's some stuff I've written in the past and not posted for that reason, knowing what I want to say but then tempering with how it makes ME look and the effect it may have on others. Even when being quite direct like I have here, I have not specifically targeted comments at anyone except you and that was in direct response to what you wrote.
And consider that most other people aren't goading they're just expressing their views.
Correct - most. There's a small, but loud minority who are most definitely goading, including on this thread, with a disproportionate impact.
Look at them living their best life, oppressing women and sending it large in paddle boats.
I always wondered what "coming over here in small boats" looked like. That's a brave endeavour.
It's been a dry spring for sure, but I've never seen the hills above Eastbourne that brown.
On the subject of self awareness, I've been having a think about why I get so annoyed by un-directed observations/insults as it seems to not be something anyone else has a problem with.
I do struggle with Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria and when I step back and look at my reactions, I think what is happening is when I see something like, 'Some people on here are ****s' my brain interprets that as 'BruceWee is a ****.'
I guess normal people wouldn't want to hang about somewhere where they felt like they were being called a **** constantly but my dopamine deprived brain actually gets a kick out of it as the conflict provides stimulation and my brain relishes the chance to thrash it out with someone who seem like they want to argue.
Obviously many times these statements aren't even directed at me although sometimes they might be and sometimes they definitely are which makes distinguishing them even harder.
For those of you thinking, 'Is BruceWee just describing ADHD symptoms?', to you I say yes. After getting misdiagnosed as Bipolar and then getting most likely misdiagnosed again with Borderline Personality Disorder I think we are now finally getting to the actual problem which is a lifetime of undiagnosed ADHD.
Someone was asking earlier if I was OK because I seemed to be reacting aggressively to everything. I was confused because I've honestly been doing better lately than I have in a long time. Maybe ever.
If I have been posting more aggressively recently then one possibility is that there are more undirected insults being used on the forum. And of course, I'm interpreting these sub-conciously (and sometimes conciously) as being directed at me to which my brain thinks, 'Consenting adults want to argue with me. Let's go!'
Saying all that, even though my reaction is extreme, undirected insults and negative observations aren't pleasant for anyone. They do always leave the possibility that you are being included in the out group and I really don't think that creates a pleasant atmosphere for anyone.
So, if you want to call someone a ****, just say, 'STWuser, I think you are a ****' rather than, 'Some STWusers are ****s.'
Or, you know, just don't call anyone a ****?
TLDR: It's not me, it's you 😉
Interesting post Brucewee
Saying all that, even though my reaction is extreme, undirected insults and negative observations aren't pleasant for anyone. They do always leave the possibility that you are being included in the out group and I really don't think that creates a pleasant atmosphere for anyone.
I think you are still overthinking this aspect tho. I do not think it true that there is an in and an out group at all - instead the forum splits along many messy lines and differntly on differnt topics
However overall I am grateful you have been thinking about the overreaction you sometimes have
As i said I had to sit and take it when folk pointed out I had upset them when I had no idea I had. Hard to take
Things are different for sure, dunno about dying. I'm not generally fussy about the forum detail, I don't mind ads or layout choices etc but it has to work properly, it's become hard work to put up with the recent forum quirks. That seems to have coincided with forum drift which can quickly become a vicious circle.
The modding is pretty dire, it's barely fit for purpose tbh and it just hasn't moved with the times. I also think it's biased which definitely hampers engagement.
I think you are still overthinking this aspect tho. I do not think it true that there is an in and an out group at all - instead the forum splits along many messy lines and differntly on differnt topics
I wasn't talking about an actual in group and out group. It's just whenever someone says, 'Some people here...' I think many people have at least a moment of doubt where they think, 'Wait, are they talking about me?'
I really don't see how these kind of statements can provide anything positive for the forum, and much more likely they are adding to the negative experience.
But yeah, it could be it's negligible for the vast majority.
However overall I am grateful you have been thinking about the overreaction you sometimes have
As i said I had to sit and take it when folk pointed out I had upset them when I had no idea I had. Hard to take
Oh no, I have no plans to change my posting style. No, I will just expect everyone else to accommodate me and I will blame and berate you all whenever anyone fails to do so.
Great talk, guys. Looking forward to being much much more active on here in the future 😉
I think what is happening is when I see something like, 'Some people on here are *s' my brain interprets that as 'BruceWee is a *.'
It's almost certainly more common than you'd like to think. I have an anecdote here, but I have to go out. I'll try to remember to come back later.
The modding is pretty dire, it's barely fit for purpose tbh and it just hasn't moved with the times. I also think it's biased which definitely hampers engagement.
Can you elaborate? I honestly don't recognise any of that at all.
The modding is if I understand properly mainly reactive ie the mods cannot read every post so unless someone reports a post it will not be modded. so sometimes stuff stays up that seems worse than stuff that gets deleted.
Its just a function of the way the modding works
As an example - I read a highly offensive but funny joke on here. I while later I posted it on a thread. I got a ban for it. presumably the first instance was not reported but the time I told it was. Looks like inconsistent moderation but actually just a quirk of reactive moderation
Everyone's a ** in some other **'s view
Forum seems quicker since the update and now I'm used to the layout I can't say anything really annoys me?
Very similar discussion going on over at Retrobike but it has before and will again. That place seems to ebb and flow with all predictions of doom being proved false as a bunch of new people appear and the forum picks up again. Both sites are probably past their heyday but there's still plenty that brings me back, providing I avoid the political threads! 😆
On a tangent - is the “Topic overview” new? I just noticed it for the first time. Or maybe I’m just blind…
So, have we established whether the forum is dead or dying yet?
So, have we established whether the forum is dead or dying yet?
It certainly smells funny.
So, have we established whether the forum is dead or dying yet?
worried your three months here will have been wasted? Or have you really been here longer than that?
Having skim read the last few pages, the reasons given on the first couple pages for the demise of the forum appears to be demonstrating those perfectly .. and by the unnamed posters.
I would just like to move the thread in a different direction; namely the good things of the current forum. Whilst it became pretty clear when I first joined here that most people here, well the most frequent posters anyway, were not the most regular cyclists. There were other interesting topics to read.
The Ukraine thread was/is still the place I appear to get some of the best information and different perspectives from. And whilst the political threads are typically an echo chamber of little value - the one gem of value I always enjoy reading is that provided by ernielynch. Whilst I may not agree with all his views and opinions, I cant help but respect them in how he presents them .. and of course how he intelligently responds to the usual abuse thrown his way.
worried your three months here will have been wasted? Or have you really been here longer than that?
Eh?
And that last post of mine was just an attempted witty aside as it reads like a few people have got quite agitated on this thread in the last 24 hours. Not quite sure why the snappy rely, to be honest.
But it seems to be bad tempered thread in general now, so I'll take my leave of it.
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I've not posted on here much for a fair few months but that's not due to the forum, rather some positive and negative changes that have happened in my life recently.
If I have a bit of a niche question, or an important one that I really need good advice on, this is still my first port of call.
I'm not as politically engaged as I was but still fascinated/appalled by what's going on in Trump Land (smelliest theme park ever?) as many of us are.
I *need* to do my own mini Salt Path this Summer, it likely won't involve a bike unfortunately (not by choice) so I plan to walk/hike/hobble instead. I look forward to posting about it on here, I like sharing certain little bit of my life with the forum, in part because I know the trials and tribulations (to some degree) of a fair few posters due to being on here so much until recently. I still very much like the forum and it's posters. Theres a lot of decent people on here.
I came to this forum for the first time this weekend, I have been refreshing my canyon I got in 2018 as a 50th b’day present, working on my Mavic hubs I was able to share some knowledge. As a “free” user it doesn’t help having Ad windows laying over the screen whilst responding.
As a first time user I have not paid, yet! But that said it’s not a great experience. If people think it’s had its day do something to improve it.
Someone was asking earlier if I was OK because I seemed to be reacting aggressively to everything
That was me, and I really appreciate your response. As always, you never know what other people are dealing with, and it's a reminder that we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
Boring!
This is why…
The info about making the reply box bigger is a game changer.
How are we supposed to stumble upon that fact?
How are we supposed to stumble upon that fact?
It's not something we discovered, it's an expected convention.
I've not posted on here much for a fair few months but that's not due to the forum, rather some positive and negative changes that have happened in my life recently.
I did notice you'd been quiet @poopscoop and wondered how you were getting on...
@sirromj is it? Who expects it as a convention? It would seem that at least two of us didn't know that.
|I didn't know it either. OK boomer 🙂
When I first started frequenting the forum (was a refugee from SDH when they did a revamp) there were multiple "I have £xxxx help me build Y" threads that were interesting to read through, comment on etc.
To me it seems since bikes have got more expensive in parts and as a whole, these threads have disappeared. I haven't bought or built a new bike since 2016 and 2019 respectively and new bikes are just mental prices these days.
I also used to ride 2-3 times a week, eat-sleep-breath MTB, now it's more like 1-2 a month and my interests are elsewhere as I've grown up.
As a first time user I have not paid, yet! But that said it’s not a great experience. If people think it’s had its day do something to improve it.
A very interesting observation.