[Closed] The F1 2015 thread...

I'm sure he'd consider it exceedingly faint praise, but Brundle must be one of the best drivers never to win a GP. Who else, d'you reckon?

I'm sure he'd consider it exceedingly faint praise, but Brundle must be one of the best drivers never to win a GP. Who else, d'you reckon?

Nick Heidfeld and Nico Hulkenberg

@ Hora my google stalking skills tell me thats [url= https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Amanda+Stretton&rlz=1C1GGGE_en-gbGB480GB480&oq=Amanda+Stretton&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 ]Amanda Stretton[/url]

Drivers crashing under no pressure? Aren't we forgetting a certain Mr Senna at Monaco. Then disappearing for a good while when nobody could find him or talk to him... Suspicious! What had he been taking to cause him to crash? What caused him to black out and drive into the wall in a place nobody else would? See, that's exactly the sort of bolleaux that's been spouted about alonso.

As for DC, he knows he's getting his P45 as soon as JB quits driving.

As for DC, he knows he's getting his P45 as soon as JB quits driving.

Why's that?

Further in Brundle you have one of the few drivers who, in earlier formulas, gave Senna a run for his money and who Senna considered a worthy advisory.

That made me giggle and reminded me of my bloody MOT and the 3 adversaries they gave me... 😀

Remember Johnny Herbert? He was more successful than Trundle. Could he present? Cant remember him doing so.

He couldn't reach the microphone.

At the risk of a whoosh parrot, Johnny Herbert presents on Sky F1.

I'm glad you went first, I was going to ask if I was the only one with Sky but I also feared the whoosh.

Ah. I dont have Sky. How does he compare?

[url= http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-1-approves-human-rights-policy/? ]Human rights for F1[/url]

I find this story a little bizarre - does this mean no more races in Russia, China, Arab states (Abu/Bahrain/Singapore)???

I cannot believe it, the Human Rights charter for F1 will be so dilute to allow for these races...

Having watched skys coverage at the weekend I'm glad to have the BBC

Recently saw I can get the F1 Show on Sky One, recorded one episode and watched just shy of three minutes before I hit delete. Sure I've said this before, but (Moto GP excepted) I don't think the quality BBC sports coverage can be beaten by anyone, anywhere.

Brundle was an excellent presenter, IMHO. He was also a v. good driver who deserved a better car. Wasn't he Senna's main adversary in F3 once upon a time?

Had to share this 🙂

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(for the non-geeks: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCc2v7izk8w )

I don't think the quality BBC sports coverage can be beaten by anyone, anywhere.

When Sky have a decent run-in and run-out show, show all races live, whenever they are, the Beeb is smashed to pieces.

Suzi Perry is hopeless, Eddie Jordan is ridiculous and '3 times Le Mans winner Alan McNish' never seems to know what he's talking about.

Love the Pastor photo 🙂

Alonso has just gone fastest ! 😯

@nemisis - if only F1 did race there:)

Hmmm...the Empire being involved in F1 races makes a lot of sense.

Cavalier attitude towards supporting governments with a poor human rights record? Check

Indiscriminate environmental damage on a planetary scale? Check

Ruled with an iron fist by a evil, wizened, shrivelled individual of advanced age who remains alive thanks to supernatural intervention? Check

lol @PMJ

Jabba - Flavio

😆

Lewis- Anakin!

Lewis - Anakin!
Button - Old Ben

anyway back to it,

so Button spins unexpectedly in a slow corner, with no explanation, the rear of the car just spinning round...

......another mystery McLaren issue....

luckily it wasnt at a high speed corner otherwise someone might have crashed it into the barrier...OH NO WAIT......................................

Engine failure (lock up?) caused Button's spin apparently.

As with Verstappen last weekend, not something I've noticed happening much in previous years, two in a week seems surprising.

Is the lock up a function of something going wrong on the energy harvesting and brake by wire systems?

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^ hehehe

Hora that's brilliant 😀

😆

If vettel and Raikki are coming into the top 2/3 for Qualy then i think Rosberg is finished for the season - Merc will want success and Lewis can give them that - yeah it pains me to say it, as i (used) to like Rosberg, but he's seems to have lost the plot - perhaps its having a new family of perhaps bridges were burned last season -
Lauda doesnt help - but then perhaps Lauda wants Rosberg to leave - despite a multi year contract (which never means anything in f1)

Still not sure why Lewis is dithering over his contract - the only other team he could go to is Ferrari, and is that what he really wants?

I don't think the quality BBC sports coverage can be beaten by anyone, anywhere.

I wish that was still the case, I really do.

With Brundle and Crofty commentating and the rest of the show's slick, intelligent, knowledgeable feel, Sky coverage is streets ahead.

If vettel and Raikki are coming into the top 2/3 for Qualy then i think Rosberg is finished for the season - Merc will want success and Lewis can give them that - yeah it pains me to say it, as i (used) to like Rosberg, but he's seems to have lost the plot

I'm interested to see if Williams can hang onto the back of the Ferraris better than last time out.

Ferrari, and is that what he really wants?

Its what Bernie wants.

Its been said before - Lewis is a full time F1 driver, yet in his spare time, of which there isn't much he's wading through the legal jargon of the contract - of which he is unfamiliar - to ensure he doesn't get screwed. I'm sure that's not an easy task.

Human rights for F1

I find this story a little bizarre - does this mean no more races in Russia, China, Arab states (Abu/Bahrain/Singapore)???
I cannot believe it, the Human Rights charter for F1 will be so dilute to allow for these races...

My biggest surprise here is that Bernie has backed down. Not because it's the wrong thing to do, I actually feel that F1 has handled the situation in Bahrain appallingly, but because I didn't think that Bernie would do anything unless he directly profited somehow.

Amanda Stretton for the top gear job

Suzi perry is nipping on a bit.

Isn't that meant to be on the boob job thread.

Actually, Eddie Jordan's role fits that title better.

Is it me or do none of the people on the grid want to talk to coultard. It's terrible to watch.

Cider in fridge and in hand. Tunnocks dark choc wafers. Bring it on.

Rosberg gets the call on the pit? How does that work?

Come on Kimi

Kimi looking good now.

BBW fault on LH's car?

I do hope that acronym means something other than what I know it as 😯

Makes you worry about the BBC.

Yay! Go k-dogg!

Blimey that was dull.

Kimi 'yes I am very happy'

😆

Blimey that was dull.

Yep, although it looks like Ferrari are going to be stepping up to make things more interesting!

Blimey that was dull.

Really? I thought it was quite a good race

It gets duller each year. Only watched a bit, got bored, changed channel. And those engines sound so shit.

I thought the race was ok (compared to the normal dullfest) - bit of action at the front between rosberg and vettel was good, seems ferrari are really starting to get on the ball, lets see what the upgrades for European races bring -

the rest of the field seemed a bit dull though ...

And those engines sound so shit.

I must admit I liked Lewis coming out of the pits JUST ahead of britney and Vettel. That was CLOSE! 😀

The sparks too from bottoming out 😀

question- Ferrari pitstop 2.4sec, Britneys crystop 3.4 secs, Lewis the Greats pitstop 3.7secs.

Why?

I like the new engines' sound. I also love that you can hear tyre squeal now.

Pitstops - maybe because Merc didn't need a lightning pitstop to get out in front (for LH that is) so played it a little safe. For Britney, maybe just not a great stop?

Ferrari's pitstops were about a second faster than the Merc ones !

coogan
And those engines sound so shit.

pondo

They sound ace.

No, they sound shit. It's not a nice or tuneful noise by any standards nevermind F1. My Subaru sounds nicer, serious.

No they sound great. They sound like F1 should - hi tech and cutting edge.

YMMV of course 😉

I like the way they all make really different, varied noises. Reminds me of the pod race in Star Wars! 🙂

Of all the complaints about modern F1 the noise is not a big deal. Seriously no one watches F1 for the noise alone. Better racing rather than the current drudgery with hardly any cars is what will kill F1. Reminds me of the bad old days of Indy Car when hardly any cars turned up.

No, they sound shit. It's not a nice or tuneful noise by any standards nevermind F1. My Subaru sounds nicer, serious.

Don't mind the sound of the V8s (liked the V10s that preceded it, and loved the V12s you posted links to), but turbos were the first F1 cars I knew from the early eighties (plus DFVs of course) - I think they just sound [i]mean[/i]. 🙂

nemesis - Member

They sound like F1 should - hi tech and cutting edge.

The nature of the sport and the money spent will mean they sound hi tech (within the regs). That doesn't equate to a good sound though. It's subjective of course, but I wouldn't want a road car that sounded like that. To me they just sound like the product of restriction and regulation. I enjoyed the last GP but the sound of the current cars does take a bit of the drama and enjoyment away for me.

but turbos were the first F1 cars I knew from the early eighties (plus DFVs of course) - I think they just sound mean.

Me too, and despite forced induction they sounded much better than the current cars.

They're just more refined-sounding, which is a reflection of them being a much more refined technology, the fundamental sound is pretty much the same.

So the sport has reached the point where we discuss engine noises and drivers [s]win races[/s] get furthe rup the poddium because they can do faster pit stops

And some say the sport is dull
Shall we discuss what aero package is kinder to tyres next?

pondo

They're just more refined-sounding, which is a reflection of them being a much more refined technology, the fundamental sound is pretty much the same.

I thought it was because they were smaller displacement lower revving engines, coupled with the turbo sucking a lot of noise from the engine, and the fact that they are trying to make them greener via regs.

Well, the old ones were only 100cc smaller, don't know what they revved to but probably two or three thou less than the current ones. Both of them are turbo, so they're both quieter than the atmospheric engines of their eras - obviously, back in the day it was all about ramming as much fuel and air town their necks as possible, nowadays, in search of efficiency and reduced emissions, it's a bit less agricultural, a bit more... Refined. 🙂

If you're at an f1 event and hear them back to back with gp2 or 3, the modern f1 noise sounds pretty good to me. An incessant loud drone versus the complex range of sound from the f1 car, clear sound of tyres protesting, really obvious braking points and mid corner throttle. All good.

From the engineering perspective they'd want a cold smooth exhaust flow which would mean you'd got every scrap of energy out of the combustion process. That'd be properly quiet,

Anyway I hope audi are filling in their entry form now because bernie promised to step aside if his presence was stopping them.

Kimi contract delayed.....

Ferrari to delay new Raikkonen deal - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/32383584

Lewis still not signed. How soon could be be at Ferrari do we think?

In Pook's link is a great interview with LH/Seb if anyone missed it?

Biggest purchase that youve made? (Seb) a house.

Lewis (pause) erm a Jet 😆

thepurist - Member

If you're at an f1 event and hear them back to back with gp2 or 3, the modern f1 noise sounds pretty good to me. An incessant loud drone versus the complex range of sound from the f1 car, clear sound of tyres protesting, really obvious braking points and mid corner throttle. All good.

The broadcasters need directional mics trackside, or even on the car to convey more of this to liven up the soundscape, but even then they are fighting a losing battle with the current cars. Many people very well placed to comment have stated how poor the noise is and how it's bad for the sport. TBH if you're calling GP2 cars an incessant drone I guess engine noise isn't a big thing for you.

thepurist

Anyway I hope audi are filling in their entry form now because bernie promised to step aside if his presence was stopping them.

So we can have diesel F1 cars? Yaaaaay. Yaaaaaay. Yaaaaaaaaaay. /sarcasm.

Lewis still not signed. How soon could be be at Ferrari do we think?

Depends how far ahead he is in the Championship by Silverstone. If it looks like he's walking it then maybe Ferrari for 2016!

Assuming Vettel relinquishes the No.1 status Lewis thinks he has.

Or...
A new Renault F1 team looking for a lead driver (but Renault aren't big payers)

Or...
Back to McLaren!

Or...
He stays where he is (which is what I think will happen).

Have to say that if Hamilton wins the WC again this year then I reckon he'd consider the move to Ferrari a lot more than if not - 3 seems to be the magic number for the drivers - probably related to Senna. If you win 3 you're a great so 4, 5, 6, etc are not so essential (Still holding off on Vettel - I still can't see that he's as good as Alonso or Hamilton though I don't subscribe to the silliness that he was just lucky to be in a really good car for his four titles)

So Ferrari could probably get him to sign by not being very good this year and allowing LH to wrap up the championship early. Not going too well though so far 🙂 I suppose a few cold/wet races and it might be a different story.

think lewis would quite like to get to 4 to top the table of british drivers

Maybe though I get the impression that in many ways having a crack at winning in a Ferrari might be a bigger draw given his fondness for the US.

So Ferrari could probably get him to sign by not being very good this year and allowing LH to wrap up the championship early.

If he was contemplating a move to Ferrari a competitive car could be a big motivating factor. Ferrari are showing they are close at the minute, but not quite up to Mercedes. If the Ferraris start blowing up, or stop being competitive I can't see how that would entice him, unless he enjoys an uphill struggle. And if Ferrari manage to turn things around and start dominating then all the more reason to join them.

I think it's fair to say most drivers dream of winning the World Championship for Ferrari. You can't do that if the car's a dog. Unless your name's Schumacher.

It wasn't a serious comment...