[Closed] The Expanse - Amazon Prime

Yep, been a few threads on here,I started one I think.lol

Not read the books but love the series.

Very thankful Prime picked it up.👍

Witcher isn't my thing but different strokes for different folks.

Finished watching series 4 a couple of weeks ago, series 5 already commissioned.

Bobbie Draper ❤️

Best sci-fi series in a long time IMO.

Bobbie Draper

Not the best Actress and a bit manly for my tastes.    Great series though, mid way through series three, I’ll be able to squeeze a couple more episodes in today I think.

Love this show, thankfully amazon saved it from being left at the end of season 3. Just watched season 4, and although not as good as the others, you can see it's been built around 2 seasons, so it's almost the first half and season 5 will be the second half, so you can see why it went the way it did.

Can't wait for season 5 !!!!

I hadn't heard of this (books or show) until I saw the ad for season 4. Watched all four seasons over the christmas period - it's awesome.

Bobby Draper (in the books at least) was never really womanly, she was hardcore, so I think they did a decent job with who they found for TV, maybe a bit short, but you are not going to find two metre tall, 100kg women everywhere.

I’m really impressed with it still, despite reading the books after watching it. I really should finish season four though

I wouldn't **** with her, unless she insisted.

A brilliant series, im halfway through Series 4 right now.

I quite like Bobby and imo plays the part well.

In the first season they said about the Belters been really tall due to low gravity (I think I work with one who is 6'4" and built like a bean pole) but never really noticed it in the other seasons.

I was distraught when Netflix canned it then when amazon picked it up I thought I'd refresh my memory and watch series 1&2 again, haven't even managed to get onto series 3 yet so really need to get into it again.

To be fair I haven't read the books, so if thats the nature of the character then obviously she's doing well!   She a Boxer in her spare time also.

Watched about 5 episodes of The Expanse. Found it hard to get into it. I find in a lot of sci-fi the characters are void of any realistic emotion. I want to like it, so maybe I'll give it another bash some time.

Two episodes into the Witcher and it comes across as fantasy aimed at teenage girls.

I think it's excellent, presenting a future that I find believable with great characters and storylines, especially when compared to Star Trek, which to me is a bit too wholesome and sterile - I'm amazed the SyFy channel cancelled it. My favourite character is Drummer, especially her rapport with Ashford over series 4. My only problem with it, having binge watched series 4 over the weekend it was released, is that I've got a year to wait for series 5!

To help fill the gap I started watching Dark Matter and although it took me a good few episodes to get into, it is well worth it for another vision of the future, which may be flawed in some places, but does present some interesting ideas. Trouble is with this series it's another that got cancelled by SyFy after three series before the story arc concluded and wasn't picked up by anyone else.

Anybody got any other science fiction recommendations?

If you like the space opera schtick of Dark Matter you will probably like killjoys. The one with Starbuck out of BSG started well, Another Life.

Anybody got any other science fiction recommendations?

Try Altered Carbon.

Or, if you haven't ever seen it and you wanna go way back - Babylon 5.

Anybody got any other science fiction recommendations?

Firefly.

Farscape.

The rebooted BSG.

Not strictly sci-fi but Orphan Black is one of the best things I've watched in years.

Star Trek, which to me is a bit too wholesome and sterile

There's always Star Trek Discovery. Wholesome and sterile it ain't.

Not the best Actress and a bit manly for my tastes.

If you find her beach wear modelling days photos you'll see playing a hardcore bad-ass marine built like a brick out house is indeed good acting.

Ooohh.. I didn’t like the look of altered Carbon when first release, then gave it a go. Awesome! Well worth watching but too short, hope there’s a season2.

Who said Witcher was for teen girls?? I think it showed a lot of promise and given another season or two will find its sweet spot.

The only problem with loving SF tv shows is you always know there is a damned good chance they will get cancelled just as they start to get into their stride.😟

Poopscoop two series I know of like that was the remake of V and Caprica. Both first seasons were shite but the second seasons were really good but by then both were cancelled.

Well worth watching but too short, hope there’s a season2.

This year I believe. However.... given the sleeving line I don’t believe we’ll recognise anyone other than flashback Kovacs!

Thanks for the suggestions, will definitely check them out. I'm a massive Farscape fan, the Guardians of the Galaxy films owe it a big debt. Other favorites of mine are Blake's 7 and Space 1999, both due for remakes I think(hope!).

It is amazing how many great sci-fi series have been dropped in their prime, guess it must be due to the costs of production, hopefully Amazon won't splurge all their cash on football.

Firefly is very good. Theres also a film, Serenity. Again tonnes of promise but cut short.

Star Trek Discovery

Yeah not wholesome or sterile but also a bit of a mess. Season 2 is an improvement over Season 1 though.

I'm loving the Expanse, best Sci-Fi since BSG, but I've got to wait a while for season 5 now!

Anyone watched Night flyers?

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Anyone watched Night flyers?

Starts well, goes painfully bad quickly imo. Turns out that all George R. R. Martin does isn't gold

I've really been enjoying the expanse until the other night I saw a trailer with spoilers for season 4, right at the start of part 7 of season 3, Amazon what the actual f!

Just watched season 1 of the Expanse. Really reminiscent of old 2000AD strip Bad City Blue. Basically slums on asteroids.

The makers of the Expanse could quite easily do a one episode Bad City Blue spin-off starring Amos as Blue the Button Man.

Anybody got any other science fiction recommendations?

Battlestar Galactica.

End of thread.

The 100 is somewhat good, it’s looks and starts like a Space teen drama but it then takes a couple of pretty dark turns. The characters are also confronted with tough choices and the female lead does a good job at not being a Mary Sue.

Altere carbon is not bad either.

The new Star Trek was painful to watch.

Battle star galáctica is probably the one to go, unlike some other shoes it has aged pretty well.

The new Star Trek was painful to watch.

Maybe half of the first season was painful to watch. The following series and a half was frikkin' awesome.

I’ve just binged the fourth season over a couple of days. Looking forward to the final book releasing later this month. Can’t wait to find out what happens.

I’m surprised that the Wool trilogy hasn’t been made in to a series yet. Wouldn’t be super expensive either. Not enough good sci-fi out there in my opinion. BSG started well and then disappeared up its own arse. It all got a bit too daft towards the end.

I wouldn't recommend BSG to anyone purely because of the ending.

It was winding up to be one of the best SF shows of all time until they shat out an ending that, while it technically tied up all the loose ends, was just so lazy and moronic.

I'm struggling to like The Expanse, only 4 or 5 episodes in so hopefully it improves. I keep nodding off and the characters so far all seem very stereotypical to the point it's aggravating. It's like a crap version of Babylon 5...

was just so lazy and moronic.

probably my biggest beef with most TV sifi/fantasy/super hero stuff is because you have to suspend disbelief that this somehow gives the writers carte blanche to write the dumbest plots and the most stupid characters imaginable.

I’m struggling to like The Expanse, only 4 or 5 episodes in so hopefully it improves.

Same here but I’m off work at the moment so have little else to watch. (My reading options are much better!)

probably my biggest beef with most TV sifi/fantasy/super hero stuff is because you have to suspend disbelief that this somehow gives the writers carte blanche to write the dumbest plots and the most stupid characters imaginable.

I think you have to differentiate between hard science fiction and soft science fiction, where hard science fiction is generally consistent when it comes to the laws of physics.

My problem with BSG is it was hard sci-fi for most of it's run until the final episode where they swung right off the road into the undergrowth of pure fantasy.

Back to season 4 of The Expanse, I'm surprised they gave away Marco's plan at the end. I feel like that should have been a spoiler alert. I would definitely recommend that people read the books before watching the series now.

I’m struggling to like The Expanse, only 4 or 5 episodes in so hopefully it improves.

Stick with it. It improves a lot toward the end of Season 1 and Season 2 onward is even better

I thought BSG was fantastic, The Scifi was an aside. Its dealing with Racism, terrorism, suicide bombing was brilliant.

I sort of enjoyed Second Life, but its just felt like it was getting into its stride, when the season ended.

My test for whether something is proper sci-fi is if the spaceships make a sound when they explode...

Can't remember which series it was but I remember watching the extras on a dvd and the writers said that they managed to justify the sound of spaceships exploding because the gasses would expand away from the explosions and a microphone would pick up the 'sound' wave.

It was good enough for me 🙂

probably my biggest beef with most TV sifi/fantasy/super hero stuff is because you have to suspend disbelief that this somehow gives the writers carte blanche to write the dumbest plots and the most stupid characters imaginable

I think you have to differentiate between hard science fiction and soft science fiction, where hard science fiction is generally consistent when it comes to the laws of physics.

No, I disagree. It’s nothing at all to do with hard or soft SF, it’s all to do with good writing. I’ve read some of the classic hard SF authors who are appallingly bad at plots and characters. In fact, I’d go as far as to say that the bulk of books in the SF&F section in a bookshop will have ‘dumbest plotting’ and ‘most stupid characters’. That’s why they are often seen as juvenile. (And why Iain Banks wasn’t!)

I’ve worked my way through many recent 700 word novels only to find a Deus Ex-Machina ending. Or worse, no ending because the author’s writing a never-ending series. But that’s a separate point. (Or is it? Have James S Corey managed to finish their series? 🤔 )

they managed to justify the sound of spaceships exploding because the gasses would expand away from the explosions and a microphone would pick up the ‘sound’ wave.

They should be able hear stars sizzling as well then? 😁

Ooohh.. I didn’t like the look of altered Carbon when first release, then gave it a go. Awesome! Well worth watching but too short, hope there’s a season2.

Just seen an ad for Season 2 coming soon....

Anyone watched Night flyers?

I quite enjoyed it, something a bit different to the usual sci-fi story lines...

So this thread got me into the expanse a couple of weeks ago. Binge watched series 1, about 5 episodes into series 2 and still loving it.

Like bsg, it has a great mix of political intrigue and space battles, with some genuine suspense.

The new lost in space wasn't bad but series 1 was better than 2.

Finished Season 4 the other night, reckon watching episodes 1, 9, and 10 would have kept the main story arc going. The rest, though i enjoyed them felt like a sub story. Roll on season 5.

Watched s1 - it's pretty good
Read the books up to the end of about s3
Watched half of s2 and got bored
Tried s3 of the back of this thread - much better than s2
Now on s4ep4 - starting to get annoying again but I think I'll stick with it as I don't know the plot

For me I think there is only so much Holden you can take in one go. Its the same in the books. He is too bland and wholesome compared to the setting and the other characters eg amos, ashford (who is way more entertaining in this than the books), 'the investigator'; even bobbi's got more going on.

Anyone watched Picard yet?

I'm a little way into series 2 and I think I'm going to give up. Visuals are nice, but the acting is poor and the storytelling is tedious and anticlimactic. It would be great if they kept the same plotlines but half the runtime.

Anyone watched Picard yet?

it doesnt start until tomorrow?

it doesnt start until tomorrow?

Doesn't it? I saw it in the list and assumed it started already, guess that was the trailer

Yeah, they dropped a new preview trailer thing just recently I believe.

Further reading:
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/picard-amazon-24th-jan-spoilers/

I'm a big fan of the first three series and am late catching up and am only on ep4 of the fourth series, but I definitely feel like it's lost something. A few annoyances, Avarasala has gone from being one of my favourite characters to an unwatchably overacted parody of herself and her husband had gone from cuddly grandpa to intergalactic superstud. Oh and knifey mcknifeface is just playing exactly the same character again.