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You can keep your hybrids and such like, here's a lesson in sustainability...

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Built in Oxford in 1967
Tax exempt
Fully comp insurance is £105 including road side cover & 3rd party on any other car, unltd milage (cheers footman james)
about 40mpg on unleaded
physically & mechanically sound

yes anything over 50mpg is not a land I inhabit any more but for the majority of the driving I do this is good enough and people always let me out of turnings, smile and even wave. Hell folk even come up to you and chat happy about their cars, one fella today opened the conversation telling me his old cars number plate! he'd never forget his, told me he would love one, strangely merc drivers seem most taken by it.

If I need to cover any distance I've got access to other vehicles but 90% of the population could do better by following this lead when all they do is drive around locally.

Thule tow bar rack for the bike is the next plan, I love it, any other classic drivers here?


 
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You can keep your hybrids and such like, here's a lesson in sustainability...

you can keep you El Dorados and your foreign cars absurd...


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 3:49 pm
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P1800S for sale here.


 
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eh? its a Morris Minor 1000 (1100cc)


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 3:53 pm
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1932 Morris Major Six. It actually as a fold out rear rack that could easily be adapted to carry a bike.

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Posted : 14/10/2010 3:57 pm
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Wow, that Morris is older than me...


 
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Mg midget (mk4) owner here.

No rust, no mechanical problems (once I've put the new brake cylinder in)

Although I said that at the start of the year, and since then;

New brake hoses, pads, disk, shoes, rear cylinders.

New clutch (inc the ball ache of gettign the engine out to do it)

Lucas prince of darkenss has paid regular visits.

Ohhh, and the handling is 'entertaining' rather than fast.


 
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Very nice, Mr Nutt. Does the speedo do the wobbly thing between 30 and 50 in towns?

I like very much.


 
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This is not a spoon, is that the GAN 5 round arch, chrome bumper version? Its been a while since i messed with Midgets


 
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any other classic drivers here?

Yes!

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the speedo is nonsence, 30 is about 20, 45 is about 30 and 50 is about 40, I don't care though its great to drive and the foot operated dip switch is great, why don't modern cars have it?


 
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Ex 69 911T Sportomatic and 75 Alfa GT Junior owner here.

Sustainability? You're having a laugh, aren't you?


 
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oh Zed thats a fxxking beauty!!!


 
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vinny its all I do 😉


 
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CharlieMungus - I got it!


 
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Very nice, Mr Nutt. Does the speedo do the wobbly thing between 30 and 50 in towns?

I like very much.

I got stopped for speeding in mine when I was 17! (25 years ago!)

The PC asked me if I new how fast I was going at the time & I pointed to the speedo and said "between here & here"

Great car, wish I still had mine 😉

Looks good in Red MrNutt, do you keep a hammer handy for the fuel pump?

😉


 
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Show us the P1800!!


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 4:17 pm
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Austin-Healey 3000, classics are the cheapest way to get silly cars out of your system.


 
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Morris Minor, probably one of the worst, most horrible cars I've ever driven (mother inlaw used to have an ex police panda car), and that's from someone who currently drives a Smart CDi


 
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Thanks Mr Nutt.

Morris Minors are one of the best cars in the world ever. Fact.

One day I will also have one. I'm loving the red paintwork and red interior too.


 
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cheers Zed, the fuel pump etc isn't a problem, having a pater who's a mech for 34 years is a blessing, he's got it running as it would have straight off the line 🙂


 
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nope, mk4's were the last of the line, square wheel arches (like the Mk2's) but with 'rubber bumpers' which are actualy more like RSJ's!

Your thinking mk3's which were a mk1 style body with a bigger (1275cc) engine.


 
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he's got it running as it would have straight off the line

Damned with faint praise.


 
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Had this for about 3 years, but had to sell due to finances 🙁

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I've been thinking about getting a tax free classic as an everyday car, I started a post about it over on pistonheads. I would at least be able to tackle 99% of the jobs myself, rather than standing scratching my head like I do with my current heap


 
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http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/110356

That is just frigging lovely


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 8:55 pm
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any other classic drivers here?

Yep, if a mint condition 1982 Mercedes W123 saloon counts as a classic...! No pics to put online, sadly.


 
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Thanks Charlie


 
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Mercedes W123 ? How is that a classic?


 
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This is how;
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Lovely old barge! (That one's not mine, by the way!)


 
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Nope, still not sold on the idea as a classic, they stopped being all that once the lights went horizontal


 
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90% of the population could do better by following this lead when all they do is drive around locally.

Or this:
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Plenty of modern small crappy unsafe motors around 🙂


 
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1982 (One of the first) Porsche 944's in the uk (owned by Phil Liggett for 12 years!)
1986 VW T25 Caravelle
1978 VW Beetle 1200
(and toying with the idea of) 1985 Merc W123 230E - nice one Mr Flash.


 
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addy6402, some of the front seats collapse, but overall the W123s are seriously overbuilt! Closing the door sounds like closing the lid on a coffin.

Engines are simple things, and run smoothly with little maintenance.

If you do get a W123, I can recommend a couple of specialists who look after them very well.


 
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Wait until winter, right, when it breaks down on some remote B-road in Wales, you've got no mobile signal and there's no-one around for miles, then see how much you love it then.

Actually, don't even need to be as dramatic as that; you'll be pootling around Swindon, dressed in every item of clothing you own, freezing your bollocks off. Or needing to wear full waterproofs when it's raining, 'cos the thing leaks so much.

Why are you such an idiot, Nutt? You think you're clever, but you're not. You're a racist, you smell and you can't even ride your shit bike propply anyway.

S'like VW camper vayn owners; rave on about them, even though they know within themselves, that buying a modern vayn would be a far less unpleasant and considerably cheaper experience....


 
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Captain Flashheart; are you a mini cab driver?

Don't take the piss try charging £30 when it's a £10 journey think I'm some kind of a mug. 'Cos if you come out with that crap, you'll get nothing at all.


 
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Fred, the W123 is only a taxi in West Africa, and as I'm not there, I'm not a taxi driver!

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Yarbles; get loads of them round my way. Well actually not any more, 'cos the cabbies have upgraded to newer Mercs.

That is a singularly unimpressive and somewhat insipid car, I'm sorry to say.

I bet it stinks of cigarette smoke too. From all those prostitutes you ferry about in it.


 
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No smoking in the barge, Fred!

I rather like the fact that it's a somewhat bland car, as it has massive personal value. It's a very normal car which has been loved, not a super-bling-expenso-wagon. That makes it special in my opinion, as well as the provenance of the thing!


 
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You might impress a Bradfordian children's' clothing wholesaler, you're not impressing me.

S'like something out of Dempsey and Makepeace.


 
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you're not impressing me.

I love it even more now...! 😉


 
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Summink like this, I'd say fair enough, 'cos it's well tasty.

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This is what I'd fancy
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A W123 is classic all day long. Much better than a boring Minor or MG. Every flat cap wearing pensioner wants or has one of them.


 
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Id love something like this.. i think it just scrapes in as classic age.

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Diversity in tastes is great. Early Celicas do it for me


 
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Probably in relation to the era you were a kid in too.. Can remember my dad getting me a poster from the local dealership for my bedroom, the ones they would use in the showrooms like A0 or some ridiculous size.


 
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S'like VW camper vayn owners; rave on about them, even though they know within themselves, that buying a modern vayn would be a far less unpleasant and considerably cheaper experience....

Wrong in every count. I had a '72 bay for 3 years and I've been regretting selling it for about the last 12. 🙁 Absolutely no question the best, most useful, comfiest vehicle I've ever owned. No they don't do 'speed' or 'handling' but who cares when you can stop where you like, have a cuppa, and go to bed for the night? The ride is very comfy and they're suprisingly quiet (Maily becasue the engine is miles behind you) and very well made.
"cheaper?" Nope. The only real expense is fuel. Insurance is dirt cheap, tax is free, resale value is going UP not DOWN, parts readily available at cheap prices, and easy to fit yourself with 2 spanners and a screwdriver. £10 for an oil change.....

Of all the cars I've ever driven, or even sat in, it's the only one I want back.

Anybody know where KPL 712K is?


 
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whats the W123 like for reliability and rust?

the merc I have at the moment is terrible


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 7:04 am
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My mother in NZ drives around in a (let me get this right) 1935 Morris 8. Its very cool, but yes quite slow and drafty. I'll figure out how to post a pic.

My dad collects and restores Wollesleys. Last time I was back we went wine tasting in the Wairarapa in his 6/90, he always parks it right out the front you feel like a film star getting out. People take pictures. of course, it only has to live up to warrant standards of the year of registration, but my mum makes him put seatbelts and some fuel cut out safety switches etc.

Its a fun way to cruise about the place, almost makes driving a car fun. And I don't get carsick in the back due to the slow cornering.


 
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jools182, when the world is destroyed in a thermonuclear explosion, the only things to survive will be cockroaches, Keith Richards and W123 Mercs.


 
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Jagger would too but, according to The Sun, has a willy too small.


 
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whats the W123 like for reliability and rust?

Heavily overengineered and likely to last forever. Somehow things slipped big time in the 90s and 00s.

I love mk1 Escorts. And Elans. And Austin Healeys. And the 356 even though it's just a posh Beetle.

Grew up with a petrol head dad that didn't help:

Stag V8 with spoked wheels
3 x Audi Quattro uRs (sort of classic)
2 x mk1 Golf GTis
Ferrari 308GT4
Porsche 928 GT
2 x Porsche 924 Turbos (a bit gay TBH)
A bay window VW Camper

And many many more...


 
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Thing is Fred a reaaly good open top se280 like that will cost you about £100,000 whereas a w123 is only a couple of grand.


 
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Anybody know where KPL 712K is?

its not taxed or insured so I guess it's dead. Thing is, that's the big expense, keeping a van like that away from the tinworm.


 
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One day, one day:

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Hmm.. previous cars..

I don't think any of the cars my parents had before their current one are still on the road.

I think perhaps one of my previous cars is.


 
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its not taxed or insured so I guess it's dead. Thing is, that's the big expense, keeping a van like that away from the tinworm.

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It was solid as hell when I sold it...... Long time ago now though.


 
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when I win the lottery


 
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Nice old Morris, good to see any classics used regularly but stay on top of the maintenance. Dont see many around any more or old beetles for that matter and they were both the most popular 'old' car on the road when I was younger.

Also look after it during the winter though or it will go grotty really quickly.


 
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surf-mat - my old man had two ur Quattros (sadly, only the 10v models). Nearly swapped the last for a Cossie RS500, but then needed the cash and went for a plain Audi 100.

Only, this 100 (in its hideous metallic apple green paint) wasn't that *ordinary*. I grew up near Banbury, and the old man bought his Quattros from Dave Sutton in Daventry. As in the people who used to prep the works rally Quattros in the '80s.

That old, plain, uninspiring 100 was one of the fastet cars he ever owned.


 
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Ourman - I like his style!

Dad had two plain 20v ones then a full Treser converted one - 80s tastic!

He also had a Ford P100 pick up (Cortina style) with a 400bhp V8 under the bonnet. It looked almost 100% stock apart from the fatter rear tyres 😈

And then a stock looking BBR Racing Shogun (the boxy SWB shape) tuned to almost 300bhp.

I have since always loved "sleepers!"

That 100 sounds dead cool. A bit like the mk2 CL Golf I've seen in gold with stock steel wheels and a VR6 engine...


 
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[i]Anybody know where KPL 712K is?[/i]
its not taxed or insured so I guess it's dead. Thing is, that's the big expense, keeping a van like that away from the tinworm.

Where can you check? I'd like to see if any of my old motors are still running


 
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This is mine:

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It is currently my only car but the engine has fubared its piston rings. I drove 150 miles to go biking and back last weekend and it used 4 litres of oil!


 
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My old 'stage 1' tuned MGB which is definitely coming out of hibernation for next summer after a year 'resting'. Now departed GS650 Suzuki in the background. Sorely tempted to flog it for something along the lines of what Zedsdead has, which is bloody lovely.

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That W123 Merc...did they do an estate ?
Would make an ideal bike carrier.


 
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That W123 Merc...did they do an estate ?
Would make an ideal bike carrier.

They did. It does.


 
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I have toyed with the idea of running a classic as everyday, but always thought better of it. I've co-owned a few American classics, 1966 Ford Thunderbird, 1956 Desoto Fireflite Sedan, 1967 Ford Mustang Convertible.
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Morris Traveller, great bike carrier, either with a roof rack or in the back.

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Car my neice had for her wedding last year. The lad that
drives it laughs at his mates, in their Novers and Corsas with their £2,000 plus a year insurance bills.
No VED, cheap insurance, on the down side, no seat belts.


 
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Yes I have been drinking, no I can't find a better photo just now, yes W123's are classics - especially when they're estates!

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Love them! 😀


 
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All great cars, til you have an accident! I wouldn't want a son of mine driving one as a daily driver.


 
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That W123 Merc...did they do an estate ?
Would make an ideal bike carrier.

They did. It does.

I took mine to a "bring what you have" car show at a pub in Wiltshire the other day and a chap turned up in a limo-estate W123. Awesome car!
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cynic-al - why oh why would you sell that... so nice.

if i had the cash, this is probably the sweetest lookin' car...

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Just for Fred 😡
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she no longer has the plastic bit and is driving a bit ropy. I need to redo the points and give her a good tune, probably put her away for the winter too.


 
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This is mine, bought it a few months ago... my first car!!!
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check out the DH bike + hardtail i got in the back!!!

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got this one for sale too!!!

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I've just sold my 96 993 - hadn't planned to but a nice man approached me and offered a moonbeams price. Who was I to deny him ? Decided to go whole hog and see if I could flog my s3 at same time. All came off and I'm now into an RS4 wagon which was my all time ultimate wagon. Rock on.


 
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@ anotherdeadhero and nickc

good choice!

lottery win first car will be a Guilia GTA, and probably a Fulvia for general duties

one day, one day....


 
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Col - every nice. Not a classic yet but probably will be. How does it compare to the 993?


 
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