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Gopping 'feature wall' wallpaper.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:04 pm
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Decking

Huge windows with no curtains or blinds (like you see on grand designs)

Open plan won't age well with the post-covid WFH generations.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:07 pm
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Modern houses that look like visitor centres.

heres the thing... and this is true of alot of thinga i guess.

aslong as thats kept clean and tidy ie the finishes etc are maintained, that doesn't really bother me. Look at some of the 30s art deco houses, very dated but still look okay or even great aslong as they are kept sparkly white with black mindows etc.

I think alot of fashinable design starts to look dated because it looks run down towards the end of its first lease of life rather than being purely out of fashion.

Some of the worst looking buildings are "traditional" looking houses but look closely you see the cracks or the plastic render edge beading.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:12 pm
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I like that house up there, a damn site nicer than 99% of new build housing

Should we add much of the new build matchstick housing stock that's popping up everywhere.

Not all of it..... But a large amount of it.

What about buying a house on a flood plain. I imagine that'll make avocado bathroom suites look good.


 
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Decking

I think that ship sailed a long time ago. It's got it's place, but those massive 3D structures made of the stuff are deep into the 'No' column now.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:27 pm
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I actually like that, I'd prefer the proper headroom but in the right place it makes sense.

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I think alot of fashinable design starts to look dated because it looks run down towards the end of its first lease of life rather than being purely out of fashion.

Or in some cases before the glue/paint/mastic has dried. Bad fitting has a lot to answer for.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:29 pm
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I'll bet the hipsters are lapping up the Avocado and Peach bathroom suites or maybe they already did and they're officially shit for the second time round.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:34 pm
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Hot Tubs / sex ponds, like large enclosed trampolines, they went from aspirational middle-class must-have to everywhere, to about as desirable as a discarded shopping trolley next to a rusty old banger on bricks on the front lawn in a few short years.

Best £500 I spent this side of Covid-19. But it's inflatable so I could put it away / move it on if I could be arsed. And I'm a total snob.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:38 pm
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Nowt wrong with grey, done my living room in dulux urban espression (matt grey), kitchen (soft sheen), bathroom is (soft sheen). Although to be fair it did take me 20+yrs to get any paint on the walls since I moved in so I guess this will do till I get carted out in a box

No there's nothing wrong with it, it's just very fashionable now, like Avocado Bathrooms were in the 70s, so there will likely be a backlash in a few years.

In years to come, we'll look back at houses with every room in various shades of grey with the same level of amusement/horror as we might looking at a picture from the 70s of someone's brown carpet, wallpaper, and sofa, or all the red stuff of the 80s, or the featureless whites of a few years ago.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:40 pm
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Much like drain pipe trousers and teddy boys I'd imagine.

Fashion's change like the wind.

The important thing is.....you like it. I mean some folk on here actively admit to wearing bootcut jeans out of choice rather than as fancydress.

Unless your actually a developer turning houses over for a profit rather than for a home.


 
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Hot Tubs / sex ponds, like large enclosed trampolines, they went from aspirational middle-class must-have to everywhere, to about as desirable as a discarded shopping trolley next to a rusty old banger on bricks on the front lawn in a few short years.

Best £500 I spent this side of Covid-19. But it’s inflatable so I could put it away / move it on if I could be arsed. And I’m a total snob.

I try to write Tongue in Cheek with these sorts of things, but I know a couple of who bought who are even more snobby than you and I, the honeymoon period ended after a few months, then it became a faf to maintain (I know, I know, it's dead easy really) and eventually they could never use it when they mood took them because they hadn't bothered with the maintenance. Once they were being offered for £100 in B&M Bargains and being fought over by rough people due to lack of supply, they wanted rid under cover of darkness, lest their neighbours saw they'd ever had one.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:47 pm
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No big deal with the grey paint going out of fashion, an afternoon and £20 and it can be changed.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 2:47 pm
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Alunimium, but brown and embossed (so it almost looks like wood) looks really nice and more natural.

I don't get the craze with gray things, I don't want to feel like I'm sat in some sort of dystopian re-education facility.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:04 pm
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Looking at houses recently - WTF are people doing fitting those old fasioned free standing bath tubs with no shower? That would be comming straight out!

Watching too many Caburys flake adverts, methinks.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:06 pm
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Muted colours are good because it's the accessories that stand out rather than the walls them selves.

I couldn't stand all the flowery wall paper and dado rails back in the 90's. ****ing awful, I'd rather have nice pictures that stand out.

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Posted : 11/01/2021 3:06 pm
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The door that Kayak posted is aesthetically challenging now, never mind not aging well.

Again it's personal taste but soffit downlighters look shit now.

I think grey frames will look dated, white will be more common again.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:08 pm
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I think grey frames will look dated, white will be more common again.

I'd be quite happy if I never saw white or rosewood again.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:16 pm
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Unless your actually a developer turning houses over for a profit rather than for a home.

i used a location house for a shoot once, it had just been finished and not yet sold though i think the developer was thinking of living there. it was right on the river a stones throw from Hampton Court Palace. it was white. i mean everything white. Floor to ceiling and all furnishings, lamps, sofas, chairs, tables etc. apart from the TV and the remote and the hob. middle of summer and you had to wear sunnies indoors or get a headache.
Horrible place, and i’m guessing 4-5 million?
at least if it was grey you could actually see tones in the space and imagine living there with your added colour and style.

it’s white i have a problem with rather than grey.
and as for windows? you can now get UPVC spray painted whatever colour you like in situ, friends had some painted grey when they moved into a new (to them) victorian house, looked way better than the white but obviously not as good as period correct sash windows (which were never white) but they are cold, noisy and draughty.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:18 pm
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I don’t get the craze with gray things, I don’t want to feel like I’m sat in some sort of dystopian re-education facility.

That reminds me, almost time for my meds.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:19 pm
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I actually like that, I’d prefer the proper headroom but in the right place it makes sense.

I was being a bit flippant actually @squirrelking, I still like them but seem to make sense with sweeping views to take in. Less so in a built up city. The price and need for building control sign off put me off...


 
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Pokey little en-suites tacked on to pokey little bedrooms.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:26 pm
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Gopping ‘feature wall’ wallpaper.

I had to redecorate every. single. flipping. room. in our current house as someone had gone wild. Our bedroom was last to go, it had gold and silver glitter highlights over large tulip flowers...

I will add - driveways and garages designed for three cars.

I too think the grey window thing is overdone and on many houses looks odd. At least you can paint them.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:30 pm
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Bi-folds tick
Nicely lit tick
Hormann front door tick (about to get a garage door)
White render tick
Grey roof tiles on the want list
Thought about a bit of timber cladding
About to redo the down stiars loo with gold fittings !!

But it was a no descript 50/60 build ??

No wood burner or poncy coffee machine mind


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:31 pm
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I'm going to chuck one in, how about two storey houses?

What is the point in building small two storey houses then having random empty space in a loft. Land is a premium, why not make better use of the land buy building higher houses with three floors as standard?


 
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poncy coffee machine

There's a family on Googlebox, they've got one of those little white and plastic chrome pod machines on display in their living room.

I find it challenging to look at, and I can't stop seeing it whenever they're on...

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I’m going to chuck one in, how about two storey houses?

What is the point in building small two storey houses then having random empty space in a loft. Land is a premium, why not make better use of the land buy building higher houses with three floors as standard?

A lot of the new builds going up by us are 3 storey, I think they call them 'townhouses', I like the idea and it, seems practical, but House Builders being House Builders they ruin it by cramming in as many as they can, meaning 5 houses in the space of 4 (or even 3). Tiny gardens even by the standard of new houses and taller buildings make it fell very claustrophobic to me.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:46 pm
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I will add – driveways and garages designed for three cars.

Until public transport becomes fashionable that's a sensible design choice.

I was being a bit flippant actually @squirrelking, I still like them but seem to make sense with sweeping views to take in. Less so in a built up city. The price and need for building control sign off put me off…

Yeah of course, location makes the difference.


 
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There’s a family on Googlebox, they’ve got one of those little white and plastic chrome pod machines on display in their living room.

I find it challenging to look at, and I can’t stop seeing it whenever they’re on…

You are not alone. I share your pain.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 3:53 pm
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Until public transport becomes fashionable that’s a sensible design choice.

Think back to the 1970's designs. Now 40-50 years old.

Fast forward that 40-50 years. I do wonder if there will be acres of garages and parking spaces unused.

(And I really object to the Americanism of garages 'forward' of the front of the house, making the garage the dominant feature of the house).


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 4:00 pm
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I will add – driveways and garages designed for three cars.

Until public transport becomes fashionable that’s a sensible design choice.

Indeed currently the fight over parking spaces on the street and the lack of emergency vehicle access is the current defacto design choice.

Doesn't make it right but it's a necessary evil for the time being. The good thing is most garages are too small for cars and the drive way could be returned to garden when the time comes. As is I wouldn't buy a house without private parking.....even if I didn't currently own car. Simply because I've had that situation and it's pretty shit because everyone else around you will have 2 or 3 cars and there will be no space.

I've spent alot of time in America.....I'd have said the opposite ...Americanism of garages would be to put the drive up the side of the house and have the garage at the back. ......but lack of space here drives the garage to the front as it means the houses can be closer together and you can get more in.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 4:00 pm
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Hexagonal tiles

I’m adding in awful hexagonal tiles, like they always use on DIY SOS/big build.


 
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Huge outdoor wood fired pizza ovens


 
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I’m adding in awful hexagonal tiles, like they always use on DIY SOS/big build.

There needs to be a couple of broken away one as if it's an ongoing game of Tetris for max points.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 4:24 pm
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Huge outdoor wood fired pizza ovens

Heretic!


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 4:45 pm
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Bifold doors in the UK.

Had them 10 years. I would seek them out in a further move. We have a sunshade and it opens up the house all summer.

I quite like that avocado bathroom. Sold.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 4:58 pm
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I love our open plan house with our bifold doors and I love sitting on the decking looking in at the grey kitchen walls, and I don't care what you all think (no hot tub or led lights though).


 
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Had them 10 years. I would seek them out in a further move. We have a sunshade and it opens up the house all summer.

If it's not too personal, do you mind saying what they cost, approximately?

I'm sure they're a LOT cheaper now then they used to be, a friend was quoted £10k-ish from a couple of places 6-8 years ago, I'm being told £3k or so for the same sort of thing now.


 
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Outdoor LED lights

Instead of just changing a bulb when they die, you have to replace the unit, one of ours died within 2 months of moving in.

£30 a piece
LED bulb £1.50


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 5:09 pm
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Those uppy/downy exterior lights that make your house look like a high security prison...


 
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Those uppy downy lights are rubbish.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 5:17 pm
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Will just add.

New builds (99% off) are disgusting soulless horrors that would destroy any shred of self respect I had left and leave me a shuffling lifeless moron if I bought one.

And I live in a 1940's ex cooncil hoose so I know what I'm talking about haha.


 
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Fake grass has to be the biggest “what were they thinking?” for me. Ugly, sterile and bad for the environment.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 5:21 pm
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If it’s not too personal, do you mind saying what they cost, approximately?

Came with the house we moved into 😉 It was a significant attraction having a glass rooflight extension. I think about 5k for 4x600mm panels.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 5:43 pm
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A lot of folks are saying how they love things. That's not the point of the op, if I may be so bold.

Folks used to love Avocado suites too.

How about painting everything the one colour? Walls, cabinets, ceilings, covings, floors, everything.

I quite like it to be fair and we have a fair bit of it in our house, but yeah, might become a bit avocado.


 
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We have an avocado bathroom, I like it. Shows up the toothpaste something rotten though


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 5:50 pm
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I quite like it to be fair and we have a fair bit of it in our house, but yeah, might become a bit avocado.

Easy fix though.

And I live in a 1940’s ex cooncil hoose so I know what I’m talking about haha.

Yeah but the difference is your cooncil hoose was built with proper sized rooms that can actually take the described bed size PLUS furniture. Late 40s/ early 50's are pretty decent.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 6:00 pm
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waterfall style taps. bloody horrible imo


 
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Plain smooth blandly coloured surfaces.

One thing about the old 70s style crazy tiles, textured walls and swirly carpets was they're very lifeproof. Able to shrug off stains and take a beating.

With big plain smooth surfaces any wear , blemishes or marks make them look terrible and destined for the skip.


 
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"Rustic plaster"

our house was decorated in a Moroccan style when we moved in, which essentially just meant the lounge has really shit plastering...

Oh and Burgundy wall paper, twice I've had to live with it now...


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 6:45 pm
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Those up and down lights are in fashion round here. Just highlights the crap brickwork.


 
Posted : 11/01/2021 6:48 pm
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LED lights in kitchen unit kick boards. Why you’d want the attention brought down to the floor is a mystery to me...


 
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I was thinking of something that's just appeared on a pic up there :
Belfast sinks.
Looked novel at the time but really not that practical in my view, particularly for bathrooms.
Other one is those massive island units in kitchens, people put them in cos it's the done thing rather than whether it actually works in the space...


 
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people put them in cos it’s the done thing rather than whether it actually works in the space…

Aye the guy at the kitchen place tried his hardest to get me to put an island in.

Moar space for units to sell innit


 
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Fake grass has to be the biggest “what were they thinking?” for me. Ugly, sterile and bad for the environment.

This x 1000 as well. I think there are some applications where it definitely makes sense - say a small north facing back garden with kids where your alternative is muddy grass 9 months of the year.

Around our way now folk have had it down a few years the "crisp" look is starting to go and it's not aging well.


 
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Islands are fine if your kitchen is a massive square shape, it's either an island or a huge table to take up the space, otherwise it looks daft with nothing in the middle.

My belfast sink is awesome, I couldn't care if it's unfashionable in years to come, it swallows the massive roasting trays on a sunday!.


 
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I was thinking of something that’s just appeared on a pic up there :
Belfast sinks.

Ah yes that flash-in-the-pan fad that started in the 1700s.


 
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Belfast sinks! We had one in the kitchen but I’m clumsy and I kept smashing glasses and crockery in it!


 
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I’ve done a number of projects both on listed horses

I hope white window frames disappear for good. Anything other than white would look better 99% of the time. White really is a shit colour for bathroom furniture too. Just makes everything look scruffy and a bit clinical. Agree that fake grass has to be up there.


 
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White windows frames? never painted any other colour and never will. coloured window frames are hideous


 
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One from a few years ago that has aged really badly is wooden worktops. Black looks so much better


 
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Other one is those massive island units in kitchens, people put them in cos it’s the done thing rather than whether it actually works in the space…

They work really well in open plan kitchen diner's!


 
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"Classic and modern" or "will date really quickly" ?
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In my opinion, those chrome barstools are already dated, but at least they can be replaced.

Its interesting to see how quickly stuff 'dates' - I think it depends a large amount on how cheap/easy it is to do it - feature walls seemed to be 'in' for about 5 years in the late naughtys, and that was it - but bifold doors that started to be popular at about the same time are still popular now, as they're expensive (so you don't see many houses with them).

I fitted my old house with waterfall taps, grey kitchen and feature walls in 2008, haven't lived there for the last 5 years so I don't feel too bad about it.

flooding a house with cat5 seems to have died a death (and not just because of cat6), but at least it was hidden.

anything considered 'shabby chic' can get in the sea.


 
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“Classic and modern” or “will date really quickly” ?

I think that the bare, suspended, oversized filament light bulb was part of an 'industrial chic' look that was popular about 2013-2018, brought on by a new wave of conversions from city centre ex-industrial structures to glamorous luxury residential units.

Is that the look you were aiming for with the dangle of disappointment from the ceiling?

Rest of it looks fine.


 
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One from a few years ago that has aged really badly is wooden worktops. Black looks so much better

Your evidence suggests otherwise.

When you finishing the flooring. - never understood the bare floorboard thing


 
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flooding a house with cat5 seems to have died a death (and not just because of cat6), but at least it was hidden.

Except none of it is actually cat6 but whatever.

Your evidence suggests otherwise.

Quite. Looks like a student flat from 20 years ago.

When you finishing the flooring. – never understood the bare floorboard thing

It's a Leith thing I think, all of the rooms in my missus' flat had bare boards. The downstairs neighbours absolutely love it too, nothing better than knowing where your neighbour is by the creak of wonky boards or the clack clack clack of high heels.

anything considered ‘shabby chic’ can get in the sea.

On the upside think of all the landfill it saved. Probably a lot of nice period stuff got trashed too but for the most part it was the shite not even the DEBRa shop would sell.


 
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I like the look of floorboards in an older house because it's showing some of the age/character of the place. Noisy though
Haveel to say it's a weird mix with the 1980s 'modern' kitchen.

Black looks so much better

Nuh uh. Easier to look after maybe.


 
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Conservatory...

Decking...

Sanitary ware thats not white...

Taps that are not chrome...

UPVC external doors...


 
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Underfloor heating the devils work


 
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🙂 to the picture. Its sort of ( as described in an SF book) aggressive retro 90s! Done very cheaply. The boards ore only 35 yrs old - it was completely refloored in the 80s. the bar stools are horrid. In the flesh tho overall it looks good and the tenants love it.

I do prefer that kitchen tho to the other one I put in in the 90s with wooden worktops and cream cupboards - that has dated badly IMO


 
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Is that the look you were aiming for with the dangle of disappointment from the ceiling?

Great phrase. Actually the chap who did the fire certificate insisted the lampshades that were removed - so we did 🙂

My list of things that dated badly and look shite

Laminate flooring. If you cannot afford wood then get carpet
Non chrome taps / waterfall taps - I loathe that disappointing dribble
plastic windows especially the ones with fake leading / stained glass - just look cheap and nasty
Non white bathroom suites
Black wall tiles in bathrooms
Sparkly stuff in bathrooms
Stripy wallpaper


 
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Wood burning stoves are all the rage in new builds around here - the embarrassment in 10 years time when they are banned for killing people

Just new build planning. Characterless houses, characterless estates, not enough parking, not enough footpaths.


 
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I quite like the unmolested time warp houses from say 60s, swirly carpet, g plan furniture, brick fireplaces, Corby trouser press...

If I bought one I would keep most of it intact and have a retrotastic party.

Those 60s span houses are listed now.


 
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Belfast Sinks, as above.
We had one as a kid while all the flash people were getting aluminium ones. I was deeply ashamed of that sink and will never have one.
We also had to make do with butter while all the flash kids had margarine.
Funny world.


 
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Aye, I have to agree with astro turf, it's awful, was bad enough playing footy on it for years, **** having it in your garden.

Minimalist kitchens give me the willies, especially if they're lit like a mortuary.

Whisky shelves seem to be a bit popular atm.

A 'bar' in the house or summer house with fonts, stools etc is the height of poor taste.


 
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One from a few years ago that has aged really badly is wooden worktops. Black looks so much better

Oldest worktop material there is. Sustainable, can refinish, easy to look after. Black? I’m not living in the 1980s. I don’t really want your “new bed sit on a budget” look.


 
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Laminate flooring. If you cannot afford wood then get carpet

Ha . And yet a quality laminate that is more durable than wood and less succeptible to wear and water damage in high traffic areas near out side doors can easily cost more than wood.

Certainly the laminate I put in my dining room was more than the 22mm oak I put in my living room and clad the stairs in.

Tbh I'd take cheapass lino over bare floorboards. looks unfinished* . A bit like nardo grey Audi's. (Primer grey)

You'll like this.... I fitted oak worktops onto an off-white (grey) shaker kitchen with a Belfast sink in 2020......probably was never in fashion....and im ok with that because I fitted it for me.

-just shows how tastes are different as I said earlier


 
Posted : 12/01/2021 8:54 am
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The biggest problem with “doing up” houses is that very few people understand design or colours. That’s a bad start, it just means you get everything magnolia or white walls - or grey at the moment - and bland boring cookie cutter cheap stuff slotted in (like tjagains picture).
Add on the issue that people try and force a certain design into a house that doesn’t suit it. Ram a modern clean white kitchen into a Victorian house and it generally looks a bit odd. The same goes with old stuff in a newer house - trying to get a 60’s semi interior to look like a country cottage.
And compounding all the above is the fact that modern houses are 99% terrible. It fills me with incandescent rage how crap modern houses look and how they try to look like old houses but fail completely. Why on Earth are windows smaller now than in the 1960s? Seriously? Why does my £180k 1910 Edwardian house have a 2x3m wide lounge window in a 4.5m square room but friends have 3.5m square front rooms with a couple of (approx) tiny 60x80cm windows in? With mullions for no reason whatsoever. Crappy small rooms which are all just square dark boxes, mish mash of styles everywhere on the outside.

Contrary to what others have said I think grey windows can work really well but not in all houses.


 
Posted : 12/01/2021 9:03 am
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expensive / quality laminate is surely an oxymoron! It always looks cheap and nasty

Anyone else dare to stick their heads above the parapet with pictures? I bet many folk on here would hate the floorboards in one room in my flat. Original 1870s, never ripped up or sanded. Carefully scrubbed clean by hand ( took days of work) and thus all lumpy and uneven and somewhat distressed.

You can buy laminate that pretends to be old distressed boards!


 
Posted : 12/01/2021 9:03 am
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Why on Earth are windows smaller now than in the 1960s?

Thermal /insulation reasons. Modern houses need to meet certain standards and its easier to do this with small windows


 
Posted : 12/01/2021 9:05 am
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