[Closed] The 10 Cornerstones of Hip-Hop?

Who?

10 corners? You building some sort of hip-hop eco-dome? Hip-hobbit.

I'm sure this covers the essentials...............

Odd Future are worth a listen if you fancy some non-sense and satire from the relative youth of hip-hop scene at the moment...

they give away all their music...

Wu-Tang have always been some of my favourite artists, so many variations in style and delivery that the clan albums are good as are all the members solo projects

Excellent soundtrack to my last night, found the rest of Vintertainment.

Cheers. Odd Future have never been my bag, even though I'm a bit of a Frank Ocean geek.

Eric B & Rakim, Public Enemy, NWA, Ice T. You might find some cornerstones listening to these guys.

Bitches, Hos, Uzis and Dollaz, innit?

Jesus Christ Woppit, there's a lot more to it than that!

Bitches, Hos, Uzis and Dollaz, innit?

that's not hiphop, that's gangster rap woppit.. a strangely popular spin-off pushed onto the youth by a greedy record industry..

Watch 'Scratch'.
There's a lot more to hip-hop than rap.
There's a lot more to rap than bitches, guns and ho's.

Some good recommendations above - see also:
De La Soul
Afrika Bambaata
Souls Of Mischief
Quannum (and various spin-offs)
Beastie Boys

DJ Krush
DJ Shadow
DJ Yoda

Kraftwerk

Kraftwerk

I've always associated hip hop more with the funk of James Brown and New Orleans

Start here, and then the next 29 episodes, and you should have a pretty good feel for the cornerstones...

http://www.itstherub.com/hip-hop-history-volume-1-1979/

The first thing remember going out and buying that could be considered hip hop:

Don't really remember any 'gangsta' type lyrics before NWA to be honest - lyrics tended to be either bragging or about self improvement.

Nas has enough albums spanning a lot of changes in the music and don't forget A Tribe called Quest .

Excellent. I suppose I'm not as ignorant as I made out in the OP, I have all DJ Shadow & a bit of De La Soul / Tribe Called Quest but thanks to you lot, Erik B & Rakim, flow. Ta.

I'll be sure to watch those Zulu.

First Hip Hop I ever heard? Whatever beats were on Tony Hawks 2...
been livin' contemporary ever since mostly so this is good.

[url= http://monkeyboxing.com/content/monkeyboxing-presents-%E2%80%98filthy-rhythm-dirty-soul%E2%80%99-mixtape-%E2%80%93-free-download-2/ ]ace contemporary Bboy shiz here[/url]

Don't know if it's a cornerstone...

Was this:

Gang Starr. No gangsta nonsense, just an amazing back catalogue.

Jurrasic 5 are well worth a listen 🙂

Check out People Under The Stairs for some hip hop that knows about fun and doesnt take itself too seriously 🙂

Quite like this for modern hip-hip in a classic style.

Also check out Common, KRS ONE, A Tribe Called Quest, Wu Tang Clan, Nas, The Roots

Ah go on then.

Proper, pre gangsta Hip Hop:

Some current/recent stuff what I likes

Sorry for the lack of bitches, guns n hos, but I'm a bit old for that.

Sorry for the lack of bitches, guns n hos, but I'm a bit old for that.

To quote the fella at the top of my post...

[b]Thou shalt remember that guns, bitches and bling were never part of the four elements and never will be.[/b]

Prince John reminded me of this fellas fab new album

Grandmaster Flash.
Roxanne Shante.

proper old school.

Wynton Marsalis

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/mar/02/jazz

Golden era

Album/The Roots - Illadelph Halflife

Also check out Smif n Wessun

champion DJ..!! 😀

here's a new one

The Sugar Hill Gang in the late seventies is where it all began.

[i]i said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie
to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat[/i]

Pure class.

Look up and listen to:

Rapper's Delight
White Lines
The Message
The adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel.

These are the foundations of Hip Hop.

Loving that Large Pro tune yunki!

A few albums worth a go if you don't already know them:

Public Enemy - It takes a nation of millions to hold us back
Tribe Called Quest - Low end theory
Jungle Brothers - Done by the forces of nature
The Pharcyde - Bizarre ride II the Pharcyde
Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill

Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again. I remember when all this was just fields.

Got to go - time for my nap.

Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.

+1 😥

[url= http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3972671039973659170 ]Beat This!: A Hip Hop History[/url] was shown on BBC2 around '84 / '85...required viewing when I was 11.

[i]Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.[/i]

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So say people who lose interest in music..

Kurtis Blow! Guru, Geto Boys, Eric B & Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Afrika Bambaata, De La Soul, Public Enemy, Wu Tang Clan, Nas, Biz Markie...

Brainfreeze a cornerstone of hip hop?

@ DezB
[i]Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.
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So say people who lose interest in music..[/i]

Don't agree! Still as interested as ever, and still finding new things to get excited about just as much as ever. John Peel was always my hero - he was still more adventurous in his 60s than most of his younger colleagues. BUT...

Hip Hop to me simply doesn't move with the pace that it did. It has become more formulaic that when it first started and everything was new by definition. Of course there is still good stuff around but it doesn't have the same "wow, where did that come from" impact it did (to me anyway)

So - on to new things. Other genres have gone through or are going through their own equivalent purple period after Hip Hop did, whether it be Drum n Bass or whatever. The most exciting stuff to me is always the new stuff. Can't wait to hear what comes next!

Of course there is still good stuff around but it doesn't have the same "wow, where did that come from" impact it did

That's why I'll never grow tired of the lyrics in the second link above. The way its sung,the music..

@martinxyv

Like the stuff Del TFH did with Heiroglyphics:

Track was on the excellent DJ Kicks series album that Stereo MCs did. Speaking of whom, debut 33 45 78 was pretty decent...

[i]Hip Hop to me simply doesn't move with the pace that it did[/i]

[i]it doesn't have the same "wow, where did that come from" impact it did[/i]

How can anything possibly have the wow factor that it did when it was new? Or move with the same pace?! Doesn't mean its not interesting and exciting anymore though.
Sorry, I just hate this "golden era" bollox! People always want to harp back rather than look for new stuff.

This CD is a good starting point

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goes through from Jamaican dancehall influences onwards but doesn't just stick to the obvious. Worth getting [url= http://cantstopwontstop.com/ ]the book[/url] too. A good read

This is where it all started; in a small town just outta Truro
You tube hedluv + passman to find out some true origins of hip hop. Can't link as at work.

Go back to the roots with Blondie.

White Middle Classes pretending they 'get' Hip-Hop thread.

You'll find 4 of the greatest rappers EVA! in this mid-80s list.

Boogie Down Productions (BDP)
LL Cool J
Mantronix
Public Enemy
Gang Starr
Run DMC
EPMD
Eric B & Rakim
Ice (Muda fukin) T

Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.

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So say people who lose interest in music..

no, I agree with him, and its not about people losing interest in music, its about the social changes that have happened in the United States, whilst there is still a huge amount of inequality and deprevation in black communities in the US, the pressure for social change that drove the early 90's hip hop 'golden era' has gone.

its easy to forget the political undercurrent that early nineties rap and hip hop was built upon, however go back and look at the lyrics of anything from public enemy to NWA and tupac and you can see the highly political nature of so many of the songs, the songs stopped merely reflecting social problems, but became an [b]active[/b] driving force for, and of, social change - and whilst they may not have solved all the problems, this pressure certianly changed what both black and white people thought was possible... Hell, they even elected a black president.

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some good (free and legal too!) downloads here that covers 30 years of hip hop @

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/history-of-hip-hop-mix

hip hop that's cool (not bling ho's uzis) is well up at the minute
Santigold, the Tape vs rqm, Son Lux, Flobots, Dan Le Sac vs Scoobious, Low even people like Chipmunk, and Asher Roth are worth a listen.

White Middle Classes pretending they 'get' Hip-Hop thread.

What are they not "getting"?

sorry i was being mischevious. Of course you are right. One of the most common issues here is people trying to establish their 'street' credentials. It 's a bit pathetic really, saw this the other day when a young black lad walked into a music shop which i frequent, and pretended to 'get' Bach's toccata an fugue! Luckily there were a few of us there, and Mostyn plucked up the courage to tell the chap that it wasn't really for him.

a young black lad walked into a music shop which i frequent, and pretended to 'get' Bach's toccata an fugue!

I hate it when that happens

I also hate when middle class white people pretend to get Jazz..

I 'get' jazz mags, is that all right?

as long as they are suitable for your skin colour and social class

Ignoring the moron that calls himself fervouredimage, that Bieber-Tupac comparison thing is utterly pointless isn't it: Commercial Pap v Specific genre - what will win in all cases?

ps. I don't get jazz [u]at all.[/u]

[url= http://soundcloud.com/mr-benn/joe-driscoll-mixtape-champs-mr ]they don't make 'em like they used to[/url]

[i]they don't make 'em like they used to[/i]

Good. Cos that would be really really boring. 😉

innit

Chuck D was on BBC news this AM.

Was excellent, that plummy lady presenting breakfast totally digs it.

Joyous.

It's good fun getting Siri on the iphone to play rap tracks. I like the way he says the titles 🙂

Some more for you to listen to, "underground" hip-hop

EL-P (from his new album)

Dälek