[Closed] Thatcher's Funeral

I though that the coffin would be open, just as absolute proof that she is really dead. Isn't that what this is all about?

That Jeffrey is there doesn't bother me much.

What does bother me is the idea that I'm paying for his lunch.

I though that the coffin would be open, just as absolute proof that she is really dead. Isn't that what this is all about?

I understand that Sir Arthur Scargill and Lord Benn will be ritually placing a stake through her heart at the culmination of the ceremony.

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What surprises you AL?
The very personification of what a Tory stands for

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al we all feel sick today

Jeez Mundie, even the Tories aren't so bad you can tar them all with the Archer brush.

Can you opt out of the Funeral Tax?

The very personification of what a Tory stand for

Indeed. Along with [b]SIR[/b] Mark Thatcher

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We're not just paying for his lunch. We're also paying £10 million for his mums funeral. Whereas he won't be paying a penny in tax from his parents huge inheritance as its all funneled through offshore trusts

Says it all about the people you're dealing with here. You really couldn't make it up

Oh yes they are. Vermin the lot of them.

Have you ground all your teeth away yet?

I think the best outcome would be complete calm and very poor turn out, so illustrating how out of touch the Tory’s are in throwing a big party for their hero.

A £10M send off - austerity for all except their own, this is the true Tory way, perfectly illustrated for us all to see.

We're not just paying for his lunch. We're also paying £10 million for his mums funeral. Whereas he won't be paying a penny in tax from his parents huge inheritance as its all funneled through offshore trusts

Says it all about the people you're dealing with here. You really couldn't make it up

A £10M send off - austerity for all except their own, this is the true Tory way, perfectly illustrated for us all to see.

I admit to being a bit dimwitted about politics, but suddenly I get it.

SIR Mark Thatcher, the perfect Tory.

From Wikipedia:

On the death of his father in 1992 he became 'Sir Mark Thatcher' when he succeeded to the Thatcher baronetcy, a hereditary title which had usually been given to his father in 1990 (this being the only such baronetcy created since 1964).

His early career in business frequently led to questions being raised that he was benefiting from his mother's position, notably in relation to the Al-Yamamah arms deal. In 2004 the Sunday Times estimated his wealth at £60 million, most of they suggested was in offshore accounts. In 2005 he was convicted and given a four year suspended jail sentence in South Africa in relation to the 2004 Equatorial Guinea coup d'état attempt. He left the UK in 1986, and since then has lived in the USA, Switzerland, South Africa and more recently in Monaco, Gibraltar, Barbados, Guernsey and Spain.

Sorry guys, I'm no tory lover but you are not helping your cause lumpin in Archer and Sir Thatcher in with all of them.

Whereas he won't be paying a penny in tax from his parents huge inheritance as its all funneled through offshore trusts

So if you had that much money you'd happily not bother minimising tax?

It's up to the state to legislate properly to avoid complex loopholes.

Hang on did I see Currie sitting near Major earlier?

Sorry guys, I'm no tory lover but you are not helping your cause lumpin in Archer and Sir Thatcher in with all of them.

Just for laughs, cynic-al, can you give us an example or two of Tories who aren't like Archer and SMT?

I realise that most of the Party hasn't (1) been sent down for tax evasion or (2) attempted an insurrection in Equitorial Guinea. But which ones are the best, brightest and most honourable of the bunch?

So if you had that much money you'd happily not bother minimising tax?

I accept my responsibility to thos less fortunate than myslef...its why I am not a tory

It's up to the state to legislate properly to avoid complex loopholes.

You are right not all Tories are convicted criminals like those two but it will be a shirt list of decent ones [ it may indeed be a short list of decent politicians]

Does anyone have a few tonnes of rotten veg and a helicopter?

I thought we were meant to keep all this in 1 thread??

I get the feeling it's about to head down the road of all the other threads....

So if you had that much money you'd happily not bother minimising tax?

What I'm saying is that you have to be pretty damn hard-faced to have made your millions piggy-backing on British arms contracts arranged by your mother, then shoving all that money in offshore tax havens to avoid tax, then sitting back as the British taxpayer, in a time of austerity, then shells out £10 million for your mums funeral.

That's a very special kind of parasite

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Maybe the mods are in attendance, wearing black?

camo16 I don't have a list, but I think I recall some MPs that live by mediocre means, and I've met a few non-MP tories who struck me as decent folk.

Being a tory doesn't make one morally bad, just with a different set of political beliefs. Sorry if that's too complicated/shades of grey for you.

Binners that's easy to say, if you were earning a few hundred £K I suspect you might have a different view - but I bet you have made choices that mean you'll never have to think about it.

camo16 I don't have a list, but I think I recall some MPs that live by mediocre means, and I've met a few non-MP tories who struck me as decent folk.

Being a tory doesn't make one morally bad, just with a different set of political beliefs. Sorry if that's too complicated/shades of grey for you.

There's shades of grey? Dammit, politics is hard! 😆

Oh, I realise that not all Tories are morally bad, but in terms of Conservative MPs, I wondered if you knew of any who were proper pillars of the community...

Oh, and...

Sorry if that's too complicated/shades of grey for you.

I'm not playing sarcasmtrackworld, dude. Much love. 😉

I see the revolution has started - someone was throwing stuff at the horses. That'll sort it, then.

Oh. It's stopped. Now the clapping crowd are throwing flowers into the road.

FFS no! Not Diana grief whore flower throwing...

[i] I realise that not all Tories are morally bad[/i]

Personally, I'd widen that to 'not all MP's' - there's a few that seem to be in it for more than they can get out of it for themselves. But not many.

As a wise man once said:

'Money maketh man a Tory?"
Don't fire that assumption at me.
I like toast as much as any man, but not for breakfast, dinner & tea.

al - I have no idea what that last sentence actually means. But you seem to be missing the point

And what I am saying is that Mark Thatcher is a parasite. How many people would be so hard faced - You spend their life milking the British Establishment, while avoiding paying any tax to support it. Then expecting it to shell out £10 million (£10 MILLION FFS!!!) for a funeral you should be paying for, no doubt while wrapping yourself in the metaphorical Union Jack, and sounding out some more potential 'opportunities'

camo16 - Member
I'm not playing sarcasmtrackworld, dude. Much love

Just for laughs, cynic-al, can you give us an example or two of Tories who aren't like Archer and SMT?

So that was serious then?

Binners I have no argument with you re SMT - and my point was you've not sought to earn enough money where you could actually avoid tax.

But which ones are the best, brightest and most honourable of the bunch

I might just piss on Lord Carrington if he was on fire.....

So that was serious then?

Well. I would genuinely like to know if there are really decent Tory MPs with a great reputation and an inability to piss-take. I guess they exist.

You patronising ****!

Churchill do it for you?

No idea what he was like, but I think he did somethign positive for the country.

Still, perfect timing for the funeral - what with no Olympics this year, this is an ideal advert for British tourism. She couldn't have died at a better time, just when people are planning their summer holidays, nice bit of pomp and uniforms and the Queen...

[i]my point was you've not sought to earn enough money where you could actually avoid tax. [/i]

😯

Steady on.

binners - Member
You patronising ****!

It's a compliment! I'm sure you could have done whatever you wanted 😛 seriously tho did you not career change to earn less and be happier?

I realise that not all Tories are morally bad

Personally, I'd widen that to 'not all MP's' - there's a few that seem to be in it for more than they can get out of it for themselves. But not many.

Personally, I'd widen that out to 'not all human's' - there are a few that seem to be in it for more than they can get out of it for themselves but not many.

I would have thought the funeral will pay for itself and will bring money into the country in the long term.

Yes, I did indeed. But you're suggesting that's ALL I've done. Which is quite presumptuous to say the least.

Oh yeah, I remember... Its only Tories who have any drive or ambition, isn't it? 😉

So if you had that much money you'd happily not bother minimising tax?

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Well, happily there are such people.

Churchill do it for you?

INteresting re Dyson.

binners - Member
Yes, I did indeed. But you're suggesting that's ALL I've done. Which is quite presumptuous to say the least

I don't see how I suggested that at all.

It's not just Tories. Just look at what Honest Tony has been up to since he left office. He's raking in millions.

We really need to reboot politics in this country.

I knew I was going to get wound up today.

And for that reason.....I'm out

PJM1074
You've done it now binners will be raging about New Labour Tony and his champagne socialism!

Honestly, no offence meant and apologies if caused - all I meant was I guess that you're not in it for the money.