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That pasty place....

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A few days ago someone mentioned a pasty shop and I think I drove past it yesterday, but searching the forum has not given me any hits 🙁

Was it Paul Bray and sons in Saltash? If so I am now 12 minutes away and will make a pilgrimage!

PS - Pasty hater after trying one in Cardiff about 35 years ago.... Looking to see if I was right or wrong all this time 😉


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 9:29 am
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Oh, actually, that was pork pies. Sorry.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 9:37 am
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You don't like Pasties ! Yikes.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 9:39 am
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The thread was specifically pies, I think. But lets talk about pasties

I was down in Cornwall this week, which is obviously pasty heaven and after extensive sampling I concluded that the winner was the steak and stilton pasty from Mary's Pasty's in St Austell

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Posted : 21/09/2023 9:42 am
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Does not like pasties? = Does not compute! You poor, poor person, I never imagined such people existed!

I look forward to hearing of your conversion to an evangelical oggy scoffer who is regretful of those wasted years in the pastry wilderness.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 9:43 am
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OK, so I was thinking of the pork pie thread (nor a fan of those until recently). However I suspect the Cardiff Pasty was some poor mans cheap **** so will try and have a genuine Cornish pasty this week to see what the fuss is all about...

PS Im a bit too far from St Austell otherwise would have tried Binners recommendation... Maybe next time


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 9:57 am
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Pasty hater after trying one in Cardiff

That explains the username


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 9:58 am
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Barnecutts (various locations in Cornwall) do a very good one.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 10:27 am
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Are we talking about any particular pale and off-colour pastie?


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 10:29 am
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Pip's pasties in Penryn or Gear Farm nr(ish) Helston is where it's at.

Reckon @Binners could buy one of those & it'd still be hot when you get to Manchester.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 10:42 am
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Reckon @Binners could buy one of those & it’d still be hot when you get to Manchester.

He'll have eaten it before he gets past Exeter!


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 10:57 am
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They were invented in Devon and these are the best.

https://ivordewdney.co.uk/


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:01 am
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Reckon @Binners could buy one of those & it’d still be hot when you get to Manchester.

He’ll have eaten it before he gets past Exeter!

It'd never make it out of Penryn!

We've just been away and spent a week in Charlestown in Cornwall, then a week in Brixham in Devon. It was bliss! A gastronomic pilgrimage. Mrs Binners indulged her love of seafood and moules frittes in particular and I was on a pasty mission

The north of England is the place for pies but the south west is Mecca as far as pasties are concerned


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:08 am
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Sorry @binners not often that i'm prepared to go in to bat against you in the arena of baked goods, but in this instance, you're wrong.

Get yourself down to the Gear Farm Pasty Company. We were soaked and rapidly heading towards miserable on the west kernow way when these guys gave us free pasties that were absolutely bloody amazing.

We caught up with a bunch of local tourers as we all tried to save money avoiding the Helford ferry and they were adamant they were the best pasties in Cornwall, and it's hard to disagree


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:19 am
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It’d never make it out of Penryn!

I would like to see you try & eat in Penryn given how hot they are.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:23 am
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Has to be Ann's Pasties ! 

I lived for a good few years down in Kernow so have had more than my fair share.
I find most of them are just poor quality volume tourist trap rubbish.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:30 am
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When I moved to Angus I got all excited to try the Forfar Bridie's, but having tried a couple of most authentic/oldest recipes etc I'm sadly just not impressed.

Cornish pasties are good, often great, but to be honest my favourite pasty is corned beef 😋


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:43 am
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In France, people actually drink their pasties.
Fact.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 11:53 am
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Pasty hater after trying one in Cardiff about 35 years ago…. Looking to see if I was right or wrong all this time 😉

Am I reading that right in that you haven't eaten a pasty for 35 years? Weirdo, pasties are the food of the gods. Welsh pasties, though, used to be corned beef pasties, which I love but are generally not sold around the rest of the country. (When I was a student, around 35 years ago, I'd take pasties, welshcakes and D&B back to England to enlighten my poor, benighted English friends. 😀 )

Anyway, you are not alone:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cglv0m09d79o     (A pasty mission became a rescue mission after a boat took on water and began sinking)


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 12:04 pm
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In america they glue them to their nipples


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 12:06 pm
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Pastis @kayak23 (That's ruined the pun hasn't it?)


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 12:10 pm
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That's dedication for pasties! Chapeau!

The sailing, not the nipple gluing.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 12:11 pm
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Sorry @binners not often that i’m prepared to go in to bat against you in the arena of baked goods, but in this instance, you’re wrong.

@scaled - believe me my friend, I'm happy to be proved wrong. This is an ongoing process, a labour of love. If someone tells me theres a better pie or pasty to be had, then I'm more than happy to give that a try. The Gear Farm Pasty Company will be added to 'The List' 😀

Cornish pasties are good, often great, but to be honest my favourite pasty is corned beef 😋

They're good, but my default pasty when in this part of the world (and not the hallowed South West temple to the art) is either from Mannings, our local bakery, who do an awesome chilli beef pasty, or a cheese and jalapeño pasty from Greenhaulghs


 
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Mmmm.... a chilli cheese pastie would be ace😋 Making me feel a bit drooly even though I've just had 3 fried eggs on buttered thick crusty toast 😁


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 12:59 pm
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Welsh pasties, though, used to be corned beef pasties, which I love but are generally not sold around the rest of the country

They sell them in greggs don't they?


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 1:51 pm
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Welsh pasties, though, used to be corned beef pasties, which I love but are generally not sold around the rest of the country
They sell them in greggs don’t they?

Yeah, they started relatively recently, I think, and don't do them everywhere. When I lived in England (Bristol, London, Devon) it was almost impossible to find anything that wasn't a Cornish style pasty with disgusting chunks of hard swede in. I don't like swede. 🙁  But that was a long time ago.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:18 pm
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Years ago in Cornwall I was advised to buy pasties in a butcher's shop not in a bakery. My subsequent experience supported that advice.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:24 pm
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Yeah, they started relatively recently

Nah, they've been around for years on and off. They even used to sell them in Thurstons in Halifax on the woolshops, before they all changed and became Greggs. Early 90's.

I haven't tried all the Greggs though, so they might not sell them everywhere.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:28 pm
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Nah, they’ve been around for years on and off.

Maybe it's the on/off bit. They are the standard pasty in Welsh pasty shops. (Believe me, I have quite the interest. 😀 )


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:33 pm
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Corned Beef pasties have been in the North East (England) for as long as I can remember (I'm 53), and long before Greggs existed.

Also corned beef pie ftw! 😋


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:36 pm
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Corn Beef pasties have been in the North East (England) for as long as I can remember (I’m 53), and long before Greggs existed.

Ok, I admit defeat. 😀

Corned beef pasties weren't available in the places in England that I lived in the 80s and 90s - all southern places - and also none of my English friends, who ranged from Devon to Peterborough to York, routinely ate them. My daughter, a student in Swansea Uni and a fellow CB pasty-guzzler, has reported that her English friends are equally unaware of the joys of a corned beef pasty, but I don't know where those friends are from. Obviously not from the same few places that you lot are saying that they've always been.

I didn't go through years of pasty-less hell just by simply not seeing the bloody things in front of my eyes! 😀


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:43 pm
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Oddly enough it seems places with a miners or mill workers history excell in their provision of pies and pasties and other tasty goods. Pretty much poverty food for manual workers.


 
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Oddly enough it seems places with a miners or mill workers history excell in their provision of pies and pasties and other tasty goods. Pretty much poverty food for manual workers.

I'd made the connection to working class areas with lots of manual workers but not specifically miners. Maybe you're right.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:51 pm
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Pretty much poverty food for manual workers.

And now culturally appropriated by middle class IT managers and colourers-in.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:53 pm
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I think that corned beef pasties are on and off in Greggs shops, but Iceland do their frozen ones and if you haven't tried the Greggs stuff from Iceland, its very very good!


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:54 pm
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I've got to take my son to the dentist in about half an hour and theres a Greggs opposite......🤤


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 2:59 pm
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Could you check on the availability of corned beef pasties for us?

I briefly worked in Lancaster years ago and the Greggs there used to do a chicken and chorizo pasty. I have never seen them anywhere else, nobody else remembers them, but I definitely didn't imagine them. They were real and they were ace!

Did anyone else experience these?


 
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Pretty much poverty food for manual workers.

And now culturally appropriated by middle class IT managers and colourers-in.

Well for some of us it's just genetics we can't escape 🤣

Quarter southern Irish navie, quarter teesside steel worker, half Durham farm labourer stock, brought up in a north North Yorkshire working class family, though I got a degree and have always worked in local government.

Pies, pasty's, meat and potatoes just run through my veins 🤣


 
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chicken and chorizo pasty.........Did anyone else experience these?

Everybody now jumps in and says 'yes, they sell them absolutely everywhere, we have them every night for tea and you've been blind for years.'

😀


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 3:22 pm
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I’d made the connection to working class areas with lots of manual workers but not specifically miners. Maybe you’re right.

I'm sure pasties aren't the preserve of miners but they were the default food in the Cornish tin mines and apparently were often made with disposable pastry handles at each end for eating with dirty hands and sometimes had "main course" in one end and "afters" in the other.

I'm of coal mining stock (though managed to avoid following my forebears down the pit) and the default pastry product was meat and potato pie. Grandma's was brilliant served with marrowfat peas with vinegar on.


 
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I feel nervous posting this here, having been inspired by this thread, but the choice was this or an LNER sandwich...


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 5:00 pm
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steak and stilton pasty from Mary’s Pasty’s in St Austell

@Binners I am very disappointed in you. That is NOT a pasty. It's a middle class pie for tourists.

Pasty = Beef shin, potatoes, swede, onion, salt and pepper. Anything else is an abomination.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 5:05 pm
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@jonswhite... but, but.... it was absolutely bloody lovely.

And to be fair to me, I was/am a tourist

This is where local knowledge comes in, doesn't it? In future I'll ask in advance to find the best purveyors of pastry products


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 5:07 pm
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Ha! its ok @binners. I ended up living in Manchester for 25 years and had to regularly have words about what a pasty was and wasn't.

Now I live in Munich and getting good pastry products is practically impossible so I'm actually quite jealous of that steak and stilton pie-thing....


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 5:13 pm
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if you haven’t tried the Greggs stuff from Iceland,

Probably comes out the freezer from Iceland warmer than you get it at Greggs IME.

Really been put off the place by some shockingly tepid offerings the last few times. 😐


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 5:45 pm
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I'm not trying hard enough: stayed in Helston earlier this year* and wasn't aware of Anne's Pasties or Gear Farm. After trying plenty we thought Philps were the best of the 'common' pasties. Mrs a11y's revisiting Helston next month so I'll get an order in...

(* and a week last year, and another week the year before that - I really should try harder)


 
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Don’t think I’ve seen a corned beef pasty in Greggs down sarf.

Luckily I’ve got a knock out old school independent pie shop nearby. Since I’m dining alone this week-last night was a fantastic curried beef pasty that I’d not had before. Tonight is the tried and tested (and their bestseller) steak & Stilton in proper pie format

Just realised I had a cheese n onion pasty earlier while delayed for 3hours at the train station


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 6:27 pm
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@jonswhite

Pasty = Beef shin skirt, potatoes, swede, onion, salt and pepper.

Fixed it for you.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 6:55 pm
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Someone mentioned pasties from a butcher being the best. This statement is mostly true.
However when I moved to our mill town of Marple many years ago, I spied a queue outside the local family bakery, yep they make the best pasties in the area and now bake several different fillings of veggie options as well as the usual meat and potato. 'Archer's' is the name. They also bake the most delicious fruit tarts - drool.


 
Posted : 21/09/2023 8:24 pm

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