[Closed] That Maxxis "babes calendar" article...

[quote=grahamt1980 ]Considering the level of offense taken on here over a calendar can I ask what the general consensus of having half naked men advertising aftershave is?

I think we did the why such images of men aren't equivalent on about page 2 or 3, and the discussion on how people weren't actually taking offence (in the pejorative way you imply) on page 4 or 5, but I CBA checking.

Do your own research.

binners - Member
When you've done with that...

I know this is late era. but if you close your eyes you can imagine its ten years earlier.

binners - Member
I know this is late era. but if you close your eyes you can imagine its ten

Can I just check, have people on this thread really needed to have it explicitly pointed out that binners is taking the piss?

I note that doesn't mean he's been trying to make you laugh, simply ridiculing some of the arguments.

Can I just check, have people on this thread really needed to have it explicitly pointed out that binners is taking the piss?

Apparently so 😀

[quote=chip ]No, you are.

Not according to your mum 😉

note that doesn't mean he's been trying to make you laugh, simply ridiculing some of the arguments.

[quote=aracer ]I note that doesn't mean he's been trying to make you laugh, simply ridiculing some of the arguments.Including his own?

Not according to your mum

The scary thing is that [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism ]you still don't get it[/url]

I do get it.
Have you finished [s]being a cock[/s] bullying me yet.

Sorry browbeating me with your superior wit.

Awwwww bless.

Just send me the bill for the therapy

Doubt you could afford it sunshine.

Do the people who see the calendar as sexist towards women also see the same calendar as sexist towards men?

Why are the mods not closing this? Is it because they are sexist/feminists that have a personal interest in it all? 😀

It seems like it's too complicated for YOU to understand Binners, not the other way round.

You don't understand the complexities of the debate so you post lot's of silly nonsense to spoil the debate (with lot's of implied name calling aimed at a poster who has a different opinion to you), which seems like forum bullying to me and goes against the forum rules.

No big deal to me, it was just peeps were getting on to the cumberlanddan poster and trying to corner him over a couple of words used (which I too had thought were being implied/acted out.) I don't like bullies you see so had to speak up.

It's okay though Cougar finds you hysterical and that's all that matters. X.

I think Binners understands perfectly. He's wound you lot up no end.

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[quote=theocb ]it was just peeps were getting on to the cumberlanddan poster and trying to corner him over a couple of words used (which I too had thought were being implied/acted out.)

He's been given lots of opportunity to use different words, but when I last checked he was still using the same ones and simply pointing out he didn't mean the usual meaning of the word. Along with plenty of other not so subtle insinuation and failing to back up his claims. If he feels that this is bullying (he seems to have flip-flopped on that one too), then there was a dead easy way to get the "bullies" off his back.

I think binners understands perfectly

I don't think he does, maybe if I explain my self through the medium of silly pictures.
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FREEDOM to put up girly calendars on our walls?

No big deal to me, it was just peeps were getting on to the cumberlanddan poster and trying to corner him over a couple of words used (which I too had thought were being implied/acted out.) I don't like bullies you see so had to speak up.

'Trying to corner' him aka trying to get him to stop making things up and putting words into people's mouths (repeatedly) that they never said. That's bullying is it?

But the author of the article and other women who complain about sexism need to lighten up and stop overreacting?

Hmmm ok then....

😕

Whilst Madame is totally engrossed in Miss France and has just asked me who I'm putting my money on, 17-year-old junior is in his bedroom doing homework and I'm wondering what Binner's footballing daughter will think of her footballing youth in ten years time - at some point most kids reject many of their parents' values.

So as my two picks are still in the last twelve I'll bid you goodnight and cheer for Miss Réunion and Miss Longuedoc.

I'm at a loss as to how Binners has "superior strength" unless you're setting up a pie-eating competition.

Is it? Is that exactly the reasons people think this calendar is unacceptable?

You don't understand the complexities of the debate so you post lot's of silly nonsense to spoil the debate (with lot's of implied name calling aimed at a poster who has a different opinion to you), which seems like forum bullying to me and goes against the forum rules.

trying to corner him over a couple of words used

Is that Cilla Black in younger days on the beer label??

I don't think he does, maybe if I explain my self through the medium of silly pictures.

eh ? you're a homophobic antisemitic wife beater 😕

I like naked females!

I'm personally feeling repressed....

Hmm. In the interest of fairness i might have actually called binners posts bullying, though if you read the context of that particular bit of the discussion its only after being prompted to do so. So hats off to you on that one. Congratulations. Clearly your entire argument is proven correct.

Binners posts, which he my think are very clever, are just a load of noise designed to drown out sensible debate and paint others in a bad light. Not constructive, not clever just very very ****ing childish. His only attempts at a serious post are apparently satire. How convenient.

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In Internet slang, a troll (/?tro?l/, /?tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often[b] for their own amusement[/b].

THat was a brilliant way of trolling
I salute that effort it really is superb

Hmm. In the interest of fairness i might have actually called binners posts bullying, though if you read the context of that particular bit of the discussion its only after being prompted to do so. So hats off to you on that one. Congratulations. Clearly your entire argument is proven correct.

Well that was [i]very[/i] graciously done. Apology accepted. 🙂

Hmm. In the interest of fairness i might have actually called binners posts bullying, though if you read the context of that particular bit of the discussion its only after being prompted to do so. So hats off to you on that one. Congratulations. Clearly your entire argument is proven correct.

Binners posts, which he my think are very clever, are just a load of noise designed to drown out sensible debate and paint others in a bad light.

Not constructive, not clever just very very **** childish. His only attempts at a serious post are apparently satire. How convenient.

1st rule of trolling? Call other people trolls.

Much crumpled laundry awaits.

[quote=cumberlanddan ]1st rule of trolling? Call other people trolls.

ISWYDT

grum - so that will be (slightly humourously on this occasion) quoting out of context again. If you can't construct a proper argument yourself eh...

junkyard - you can slow down. I may have used the word 'bullying' but anyone with a basic knowledge of the english language and without an axe to grind knows there is a huge difference between what I said and complaining of bullying. But then again misrepresentation seems to be what you do.

Who's arguing sarcasm is bad exactly? Or did you just make that up, again?

😆
I last opened this thread when it was on page 1 or 2
Briefly, I wondered whether I'd flick backwards through the posts from the latest one, and see how long it was before I found anything relating to the actual issue raied in the article.
Gave up; just don't have the stamina these days. I took some consolation from the finding that it didn't really matter that I was going backwards chronologically; there seems to be sufficient repetition that it works just as well that way round

Crack on - see you tomorrow evening

[quote=cumberlanddan ]But then again misrepresentation seems to be what you do.
Who's arguing sarcasm is bad exactly? Or did you just make that up, again?

Whilst your trademark is irony?

Only if you don't understand what irony is.

junkyard - you can slow down. I may have used the word 'bullying' but anyone with a basic knowledge of the english language and without an axe to grind knows there is a huge difference between what I said and complaining of bullying.

So when you complain about bullying, using the word bullying - you're obviously not really complaining about bullying, but when no-one at all uses the word banning or even hints at it, they're all definitely talking about banning things.

Ok then! 😆

Ironing?! But do you understand what 'is' is

Has it got big tits?

I can't be bothered to think about the actual issue so I'll just pick out minor flaws in other people's posts and then make some extra ones up. That'll make me look clever.

That right?

What's all this got to do with a calendar?

Back in the day, when peanuts were regularly sold on boards depicting bikini clad girls, did you ever once flounce out of the pub and declare you'd never drink there again? Or even once complain to the barman/manager? Or even make a comment to your friend about the misogynistic peanuts?

Thought not.

By the way, some pubs still sell those nuts. Shocking isn't it.

I already made the logical arguments but it was a bit pointless because you kept making things up. 🙂

Aaaaaaah the 1970s? Joyous weren't they.

I'm going to order a calendar to take me back to those halcyon days.

I'm also going to reinstate calling Asian gentlemen ****'s. Because it was fine back then. And in the same way that objectification of women isn't actually sexism - as you repeatedly and increasingly bizarrely maintain - using the word ****, while having racial conertacions, describing as it does someone's racial origins - is technically merely an abbreviation, and not racist at all.

And if you're going to take offence at it then you're just being oversensitive. Or a troll. Or a bully. Or something.

[quote=cumberlanddan ]Only if you don't understand what irony is.

Rain on your wedding day?

Aaaaaaah the 1970s? Joyous weren't they.
I'm going to order a calendar to take me back to those halcyon days.
I'm also going to reinstate calling Asian gentlemen ****'s. Because it was fine back then. And in the same way that objectification of women isn't actually sexism - as you repeatedly and increasingly bizarrely maintain - using the word ****, while having racial conertacions, describing as it does someone's racial origins - is technically merely an abbreviation, and not racist at all.
And if you're going to take offence at it then you're just being oversensitive. Or a troll. Or a bully. Or something.

More drivel, binners.

Rain on your wedding day?

It's meeting the woman of your dreams, then meeting her beautiful wife.

junkyard - you can slow down. I may have used the word 'bullying' but anyone with a basic knowledge of the english language and without an axe to grind knows there is a huge difference between what I said and complaining of bullying. But then again misrepresentation seems to be what you do

Who's arguing sarcasm is bad exactly?

Or did you just make that up, again?

This is really the way you are debating and calling others troll

BRILLIANT

You people are scary.

'thread be like ...

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More drivel, binners.

Bullying? 😉

Bullyshitting I think.

(That goes for binbins as well.)

Chip - are you being held hostage by the 1970's? Do you want us to all try and rescue you?

Punk isn't as big any more, and orange and brown decor isn't what it was.

On the plus side if you're doing the whole folk beardy thing then you'll fit right in! You could probably get a 'Blokes With Their Beards Out, and Birds with Their Tits Out' calendar

Beards? Big tits? Result Eh? 🙂

No, you are the only one obsessed with the 70s on this thread.

Have a read of what these wonderful young women (use to) do.

And all you can see is the 70s and big tits.
[url= http://www.maxxis.co.uk/news/corporate/maxxis-supports-macmillan-and-its-fight-against-cancer ]http://www.maxxis.co.uk/news/corporate/maxxis-supports-macmillan-and-its-fight-against-cancer[/url]

In the spirit of equality, Shall we start a 'Get Your Cock Out For Cancer' calendar then?

I'm game if you are sister!

We'll raise millions!!!!!!

The women look dressed to me.

There are a few interesting threads on this forum. Unfortunately they are outnumbered by pathetic ones like this. Is descending to this level of pettiness really how people here spend their free time?

The thought of spending enough time on here to turn into one of you sends shivers down my spine. Thanks for the wake up call, I am off to look at something more interesting, like a calendar with boobies in it.

😀 Nobody has wound me up at all.
I have no idea if others are getting worked up or not. Hard to tell with the written word I suppose.

I thought it was an interesting thread with lot's of interesting opinions. You don't have to agree with all of them to discuss it 😳

Forum bullying isn't some sort of evil crime.. He was acting like a Troll trying to antagonise and call people names because they don't agree with his opinion. It's a type of forum bullying imo 😛

Maybe some of you take it too seriously to have a chit chat about such matters.

A little chunk from the forum rules

Respect for everyone is paramount. If we see evidence or have good reason to believe that you are looking to get a rise or to deliberately force a reaction from any other users (Trolling) then we will stop you.

If you are here to chat, respectfully debate issues or ask genuine questions of the thousands of users who come here then you are welcome to stay and we have no doubts you will add positively to our huge community.

Forum bullying isn't some sort of evil crime.. He was acting like a Troll trying to antagonise and call people names because they don't agree with his opinion. It's a type of forum bullying imo

Numerous people fit this description on this thread.

Km79 you are the voice of reason.
I have nothing further to add apart from I hope this calendar goes back on line and hope the over dramatic scribblings of a hypocrite has not cost a very worthy charity much needed money.

I am out.

^^ Wise words chip and KM79.

If the author REALLY cared about Maxxis' marketing and how it impacts the female market, she should have contacted them, offered her services to set a good tone of voice on future endeavours and negotiated some ad spend to her paymasters at total women's cycling, thus gaining rock star points all round. Instead, she's just yet another internet moaner with a shouty voice, making a lot of noise and complaining, but doing nothing to progress the situation. The internet seems to have created a real need to "vent" and rant rather than actually taking action.

Live and let live, I say. Either do something about it (not a ranty self publicising "open letter") or pipe down. I'd say the same to anyone - male or female - ranting online.

Indeed, she should just keep quiet about it really. Like women always have. Y'know, put up, shut up, or do it nice and quietly and don't go annoying sexists by challenging their opinions openly online.

As for km79's wise words...the great thing about these threads is to enlighten us as to the swathes of unenlightened that are more than happy with the status quo, or that want, perhaps, to lower their knuckles a little more and push back a little with their enlargened and thick boned brows.

I thought the author wrote a decent piece from a reasonable perspective. I'm not really sure what the rest of you agree or disagree on but it is ONLY an Internet discussion so pinches of salt required.
Now what tyres and which calendar....

It's just incredible isn't it. Apparently not feeling the need to ban a very tame calendar means you're an actual Neanderthal.

So yeah darcy, this thread really does give an insight into some peoples' petty mentality. On that we can agree.

Just popped back on to see how this thread had developed (kind of knowing, but still with a ray of hope). In one way it is nice to be proved right, but far more depressing is the descent into outright confrontation, accusations of bullying etc etc. Still, some of the individual posts may contain good points or amusing asides, so I'd better give it a good read to make sure.

As for km79's wise words...the great thing about these threads is to enlighten us as to the swathes of unenlightened that are more than happy with the status quo, or that want, perhaps, to lower their knuckles a little more and push back a little with their enlargened and thick boned brows.

It also enlightens us to all other sorts.

TBH I'm probably not the market for these types of calendars, but unless its being forced upon you and is not showing anything currently illegal in the places were it can be bought, why ban it?

Why ban it ?

I assume its because its easier to keep beating this straw man to death that an actually read what folk have said? DO we have to say every page no one has said ban it ?

It's just incredible isn't it. Apparently not feeling the need to ban a very tame calendar means you're an actual Neanderthal.

So yeah darcy, this thread really does give an insight into some peoples' petty mentality. On that we can agree.

I do find it really odd that so many of you have been so one sided on abuse claims. Often in posts where you have abused the "other side". Its not like I am denying binners or DD are being rude about the monobrow lot now am I or just pretending only you are doing it.

Christ some of you lot would not notice the evidence unless it was beautifully and tastefully adorned by a lady with her norks out.

So is it the OP that wants to ban a calendar!?

Hold on, "norks out"?

Flounces off for a Google

Conclusive proof that some men have moved on from objectifying women to the enlightened state of just being a dick/fanny (in the interest of equality). That's what i call progress. Top work master debaters!

I'm concerned at the level of anti-Neanderthal prejudice displayed on here. Just because they are no longer around to defend themselves they make easy targets.

not feeling the need to ban a very tame calendar means you're an actual Neanderthal.

Oh dear that makes every single person on the thread a Neanderthal then, seeing as no-one had mentioned anything about banning it (apart from you). 😆

In honour of binners work on this thread and ernie lynch on another......

I do like the fact that auto correct on my iPad tries to spell 'banners' when typing 'binners'!

Junkyard, seriously? Have a read of your last post and ask yourself if that seems OTT. So what if you don't agree with others.. Swearing,ranting and name calling are not things the forum allows. Rein it in or pull yourself away from the keyboard 8)
I assumed Deadly Darcy's post was a Troll 😕

Fast forwarding to 20?? (2016 maybe) who knows what year!
In the new world where sexism has died it's death (slowly happening right now) and everything is equal or nearly so.. Will this type of advertising be okay through choice?

Surely for things to progress we also need a less judgemental attitude too.
Personally I don't think objectification should be grouped with sexism; I appreciate it isn't easy to separate them due to the sexist attitudes that have dominated in recent times but they are very different things to deal with imo

But theocb, do you not see that objectification = sexism? You Neanderthal.

I expect the sound effect for this post is "whoosh"!

There is an argument (somewhere in this thread) that we are all entitled to advertise/model as we wish. I'm sure customers can decide what advertising they do and don't like but maybe that's the problem.