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I was instructed by the against middle aged nerds that I had heard it from the horses mouth and my argument was invalid because of this.
Don't make me post the picture of the human-shaped dried-out cereal stalks again.....
[quote=chip ]But when a couple of women posting on here said they disagreed with it. I was instructed by the against middle aged nerds that I had heard it from the horses mouth and my argument was invalid because of this.See my previous post. Obviously, the only folk who can determine whether a woman has grown up or has broken out of her conditioning is a bunch of guys on the internet.
Maybe it was just wrong because you fundamentally misunderstand the issue to the point of intransigence. Anyway, the ad-nauseum-eter is bleeping...
Bleeping? It's effin' melted.
That's what got us into this mess in the first place
Speak for yourself
at least we're not geeks...
It's been worth it, if only for this
TurnerGuy - MemberThe attitudes displayed in this thread, people calling sexism and racism for such little provocation, are why crimes like the child abuse in Rotherham were able to go on for so long - people afraid to say anything because some idiot acting as the political correctness police would jump down their throats.
All youse should be ashamed!
It's been worth it, if only for this
it kept the thread going for a few more pages...
Obviously, the only folk who can determine whether a woman has grown up or has broken out of her conditioning is a bunch of guys on the internet.
Straw man and tbh your posts stopped being funny after the first few times you did this.
[quote=Northwind ]All youse should be ashamed!
I'm hanging my head right now 😳 if only I was more tolerant to the use of half naked glamour models for marketing.
[quote=Junkyard ]your posts stopped being funny
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Does that make it ok?
it was ok before with just a couple of prudes moaning about models making a living (and enjoying it)
[quote=cumberlanddan ]people keep getting offended and insulting people.
Why are those in favour of the calendar getting so offended?
[quote=tpbiker ]the usual hand wringing suspects
[quote=poah ]a couple of prudes moaning
THey were never funny?your posts stopped being funny
But when a couple of women posting on here said they disagreed with it. I was instructed by the against middle aged nerds that I had heard it from the horses mouth and my argument was invalid because of this.
funny that eh!
Why are those in favour of the calendar getting so offended?
I'm not offended, people are entitled to have an opinion no matter how stupid or idiotic.
[quote=poah ]people are entitled to have an opinion no matter how stupid or idiotic.
Fair point, I'll leave you with yours
Fair point, I'll leave you with yours
yip the freedom of speech is certainly not stupid or idiotic
Which begs the question why, if 4 perfectly balanced females don't consider it offensive in the least, why do a bunch of middle aged mountainbiking nerds...?
😆 😆
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1300 😀
Doesn't look like 2k is going to happen.
Oh well....maybe next year 🙁
Who won?
Woah, slow down there, theres legs in this yet!
Just wanted to point out that it's those who don't like the calendar that really threw their toys out of the pram. In fact one advocate got so upset one of his posts miraculously disappeared!
Still you know keep making things up!
I'm off back to do those other things I mentioned 😆
the babes
So what would keep the objectors on this thread really happy - if all women were to walk around in hijabs ?
Does this semi-nude picture objectify women?
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or does it just illustrate why she has been dominant in womens tennis for so long?
Or is this 'sexier' picture better ? :
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So what would keep the objectors on this thread really happy - if all women were to walk around in hijabs ?
Yes - that has promoted gender equality in Saudi Arabia.
And what's the opinion on these Japanese girl pop groups - empowering for women or not ? :
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I think the Maxxis Babes image is more desirable than that implied schoolgirl look.
[quote=cumbertrolldan ]Still you know keep making things up!
Yeah, cause I made up those quotes I posted...
[quote=TurnerGuy ]And what's the opinion on these Japanese girl pop groups - empowering for women or not ? :
Actually, before you got there I'd been thinking back to the whole Spice Girls "Girl Power" thing.
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No, not these ones
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if all women were to walk around in hijabs ?
All these posts and you still have NO idea what we've been talking about.
Just wanted to point out that it's those who don't like the calendar that really threw their toys out of the pram.
Yes you were certainly a beacon of the way to calmly make your own point 😯
So what would keep the objectors on this thread really happy - if all women were to walk around in hijabs ?
I think there may be some middle ground between the objectification and the [ perceived in the west] subjugation of women. What do you think?
I think the Maxxis Babes image is more desirable than that implied schoolgirl look.
I think very skinny models are better than heroic chic models but i would not say either is that great an outcome.
I think the Maxxis Babes image is more desirable than that implied schoolgirl look.
I thought it was too commendable that all of those girls were in the navy
oops heroic was heroin which makes a wee bit more sense
Mods - can you change the title to 'the sisyphean thread' please? Thanks.
*Applause for classical reference!*
I just wish it was funnier but plenty of threads are pointless
I dunno. "Heroic chic" throws up some rather ironic images....
I just wish it was funnier
Agreed.
but
Do go on....
plenty
That many?
of threads are
Are? Surely most are in the past, so your tense is wrong.
pointless
Punctuationless, more like. What's your problem with a full stop, eh? Go on. What?
😉
its the least of our worries in that field 😉
It wasn't so much the pointlessnes, but the epic levels of interminable circuity...
epic levels of interminable circuity
Wasn't that the title of the 33rd Yes album?
[quote=Junkyard ]I just wish it was funnier but plenty of threads are pointless
Given the name of a Maxxis babe (100 people were surveyed)...
Didn't read much of the thread, way to long. Did a search for the Maxxis babes. Kinda like them.
Tldr.
Anyone mention Maxxis Beavers?
So when do we start complaining about the Fast & Furious films - cars and babes all over them...
I just spotted that Nanking tyres are going to have a babes page :
http://grid-girls.co.uk/nankang-tyre-babes/
but from a quick examination I am guessing that Maxxis would give more grip...
not that much of a victory - still on facebook :
Which begs the question why, if 4 perfectly balanced females don't consider it offensive in the least, why do a bunch of middle aged mountainbiking nerds...?
Actually one of the better points in this thread is raised here.
What this "discussion" really needs is the viewpoint from someone who is being "objectified" A friend (I mean someone I've met a few times and gone to the pub with) does that thing at boxing matches where they wonder around holding a number up in the air wearing not that much. Educated, travelled, seemingly well rounded human being, she did post something on facebook earlier this year rebutting the assumption she was effectivly a victim of sorts. I did try and dig out what she posted, but she puts out so much content on Facebook I simply gave up.
Whether you agree with her is not is a different matter. But it's a first hand viewpoint this thread seems rather hollow without IMO*. I'd direct her here, if it wasn't for the shame of association. 😛
Instinctually I found myself dissagreeing with her. How much that is a reflection on me, and not her I'm not sure.
*To be fair, it's a first hand viewpoint that might be in this thread. But I have issues with sentences that are too long etc etc etc. Feel free to be offended I've not bothered to read the thread etc etc.
Whoever it was that declared that women dressing as prostitutes was "empowering" for them will be first against the wall when I am elected Supreme Leader. It's like saying being shot helps with ventilation, and thanking the person with the gun.
how do you know how prostitutes dress?
Whoever it was that declared that women dressing as prostitutes was "empowering" for them will be first against the wall when I am elected Supreme Leader
So you're saying that woman who dress like that look like prostitutes?
She is saying what someone else said - the quote shows that- ao no she did not say that. Comprehension fail.
@ pie we all know that all women dont all speak with one voice and that the women who do this enjoy it, its not a revelation
I bet in the roman times one could have found contented eunuchs and delighted concubines
Perhaps even some slaves were happy with their lot.
I dont think anyone argued the women were freely choosing to do this and that some enjoyed it we were debating whether it was ok to do
TBH the male [ uber macho] equivalent is I bet we could find dome blokes willing to have a fight to death that does not mean we should let them
Err no - the male version would be people PRETENDING to have death matches etc.
So they're saying that they don't look like prostitutes?
@ pie we all know that all women dont all speak with one voice and that the women who do this enjoy it, its not a revelation
Of course its not a revelation.
The point is this thread needs their viewpoint or it's failing to account for the full spectrum of involved parties. Middle aged men should not be the sole arbiters of morality.
Middle aged men should not be the sole arbiters of morality.
Are you new around here, or what?
Hey, after seemingly comparing my friend to a slave I thought it was quite a considered post.
39 pages! Surely it can't be long before this thread results in a definitive conclusion everyone agrees with.
I disagree.
I disagree.
Sorry. You're just wrong. Here is a carefully vetted internet link to show as much.
www.googledtowithinaninchofmyarguement.com
Hey, after seemingly comparing my friend to a slave I thought it was quite a considered post.
She should consider herself lucky - these days the usual way of expressing disapproval of a work of fiction is to show up in a Peugeot brandishing an AK-47.
expressing disapproval of a work of fiction
...how is the calendar a 'work of fiction'?
Anyway, the issue is Maxxis selling tyres without annoying some of their customers.
...how is the calendar a 'work of fiction'?
I've never seen girls like that swapping tyres in my LBS.
...how is the calendar a 'work of fiction'?
You mean ... if I show up to Miss October's house right now, she's there in hot pants and a crop top, just waiting for little old me? Wow!! Christmas came early!!
The point is this thread needs their viewpoint or it's failing to account for the full spectrum of involved parties. Middle aged men should not be the sole arbiters of morality.
It does I wonder if the attitude expressed by some on here help encourage females to join our club or not.
No one claimed middle aged men* are or should be the arbiters of morality.
Clearly I said your female friend was a eunuch slave who wanted to fight to the death at least mis quote me accurately 😉
* are you middle aged? You looked much younger than most STWers to me.
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It does I wonder if the attitude expressed by some on here help encourage females to join our club or not.
The sixth form debating society and hand wringing collective?
outofbreath - Member
39 pages! Surely it can't be long before this thread results in a definitive conclusion everyone agrees with.
Monkeys
Mozart
The sixth form debating society and hand wringing collective?
Yes - we've put right-on supportive posters on all the common room notice boards but they still haven't come to any meetings. They prefer to go on trips to objectify the rugby club.
Explain why that [i]isn't[/i] a straw man? Posing for a calendar or being a hostess at a motorsport event doesn't seem much like a fight to the death (though I bet there's a fair bit of competition)TBH the male [ uber macho] equivalent is I bet we could find dome blokes willing to have a fight to death that does not mean we should let them
Have you seen the fight for the GHD's Scot? 😯
I did not say they were alike what i said was it is possible to find people willing to do things we probably would not allow them to do such as fight to death.
The point of this was to show that the fact the participants are willing to do the activity is not a sufficient reason on its own that we [ society not middle aged men] needs to "permit" it.
No i was more getting at the really thick neanderthal sexist closet racists who miss the most obvious of points.The sixth form debating society and hand wringing collective?
are you middle aged? You looked much younger than most STWers to me.
Oh it's coming along!
This thread is unbelievable.
the really thick neanderthal sexist closet racists
Where does the racism come in?
You mean ... if I show up to Miss October's house right now, she's there in hot pants and a crop top, just waiting for little old me? Wow!! Christmas came early!!
We're not talking about your fantasies (the above would be a work of fiction - please feel free to type more), we're talking about photos of the 'maxxis babes'.
No one claimed middle aged men* are or should be the arbiters of morality.
Not intentionally. But the balance of views aired on this thread. Driven by the forum demographics means that this is what is happening.
Clearly I said your female friend was a eunuch slave who wanted to fight to the death at least mis quote me accurately
Actually thought bringing in eunuch slaves was a bit wierd at best. I pretty much assumed an expression of frustration more than anything else. Yes, I know, shouldn't assume.
the really thick neanderthal sexist closet racistsWhere does the racism come in?
same place as the sexism
Actually thought bringing in eunuch slaves was a bit wierd
Indeed. I actually quite like the Maxxis eunuch slaves calendar
johnx2 - do you actually believe that the "Maxxis babes" exist? I don't want to imagine the look of disappointment on your face when you wake up tomorrow and discover that Santa is a work of fiction too 🙁