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And many congratulations.....
She must have maxed out her pension contributions by now, put yer feet up woman!! 😉
Merkel?
poor woman, everyone trying to celebrate the death of her Dad 🙁
This isn't going to end well....
But a great many years of service, well done.
Lets be all continental and celebrate our Royal family in the french manner....
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She looked a lot cooler in 1977 than she does now.
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Thanks, Binners, I'd have probably earned another ban if I'd posted that.
I'm not a massive fan of Royalty....But credit where credit is due, she has done more for Great Britain and the Common Wealth than I have or ever will do.
Doff's cap.
Sweep on her time remaining?
This won't end well, but yeah well done ma'am.
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There can't be many 89 year olds who have been doing the same job for 63 years!
Obsequious nonsense
Happy to celebrate a tradition, think she's rather good at spreading the word and a great figure head.
She's done the job well but even if she'd been a terrible queen we would still have had to tolerate her.
Delegation is the key to getting things done...
How many governments does she have these days anyway?
How old is she ... 90 something... ?
My old nan, bless her cottons, is about the same age and likes nothing more than sitting in her front room with a good/bad book or watching tennis or snooker
On that basis ... I'm a fan of HRH... Good on her
and as a little troll ...... God save the Queen
TBH, I'd take her to run the place over any number of the worms who have trooped up for their weekly appointment over the years.
The country is full of nice little old ladies. Only one of them claims she was appointed by God and we're all her subjects.
Still, she's "very witty with her household staff" according to the toadying sycophant on Radio 4.
As soon as she steps down that should be it for the 'monarchy' and it should be consigned to the history books. She should be allowed to let her term to come to its natural conclusion. It really has no place in a modern developed society and economy, not even in a ceremonial role.
It had no place in Tom Paine's C18ththe idea of hereditary legislators is as inconsistent as that of hereditary judges , or hereditary juries; and as absurd as an hereditary mathematician, or an hereditary wise man; and as ridiculous as an hereditary poet-laureate
Was she married to Francis Rosi in the 70's then wwaswas?
I like her and she waved at me once.
Three cheers and thanks for doing a great job.
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I like the royals, not really sure why but it's one of those things that keeps us brits from becoming American.
Well done Maam.
Couldn't really care less, she seems a decent sort one of her kids is an asshat but that is common in many families. Husband is a right one, subtle as a brick.
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Much as people may moan that having a monarchy is unfair or archaic, does anyone [i]really[/i] think that electing your head of state is a much better and fairer system?
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I liked John Major's point on R4 this morning when he pointed out that she gets on well with many world leader's because she knew them when they were children!
because she knew them when they were children
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All a bit Fly my pretties?
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I see JHJ is back from his latest holiday, I assume the ban hammer has just nipped out for a bit of a jog up and down the touchline....
A non political head of state is a great thing, also a powerless one. Great to meet, greet and wave at people.
Children? Or EGGS?!
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(the one on the left is Jimmy saville, the one in the middle is her Maj)
Go jive, give us a Jimmy and the queen pic... You know you want to... 🙄
Always been rather ambivalent about the royal family. My politics would dictate I should be a republican, but if that means replacing the queen with another politician I can't see the point. The system is undoubtedly archaic and silly, but I see it as no more than a tourist attraction and ceremonial post. Keep the Queen and the direct heirs, get rid of the rest and the hangers on. And make them all pay tax and work for a living, and get rid of the grace and favour perks.
Oh yeah, I forgot her duties as High Priestess of the MKUltra Lizard Paedos.
That must be pretty hard on an 89 year old cybernetic system.
I [s]like[/s] can't stand the royals, [s]not really sure why but[/s] it's one of those things that keeps us servile brits from becoming [s]American[/s] a proper democracy.
Graham - and from column B, I give you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Robinson
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However I'm a "royalist" with a small r, as I prefer a powerless "figurehead" as head of state rather than another layer of executive/autocratic control.
What Daz said,hang on are they watching? All hail our Lizard Overlords!
dazh - Member
Always been rather ambivalent about the royal family. My politics would dictate I should be a republican, but if that means replacing the queen with another politician I can't see the point. The system is undoubtedly archaic and silly, but I see it as no more than a tourist attraction and ceremonial post. Keep the Queen and the direct heirs, get rid of the rest and the hangers on. And make them all pay tax and work for a living, and get rid of the grace and favour perks.
If we are expanding this thread to include Own View Politics and Future State, this statement sums it up nicely for me too.
I see JHJ is back from his latest holiday, I assume the ban hammer has just nipped out for a bit of a jog up and down the touchline....
the newsmith bullying train is about to leave all aboard 🙄
I will never understand why people in this day and age still support the monarchy and what it stands for. Elitist, classist, discriminatory. The biggest scroungers in britain with an outrageous sense of entitlement.
I will never understand why people in this day and age still support the monarchy and what it stands for.
Mummy complex.
Listening to all the sycophantic royal worshiping on the radio turns my stomach. I've had to turn it off.
I might add that my wife and kids think they are great. Knobs!
Graham - and from column B, I give you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Robinson
How many people outside of Ireland and the UK have heard of her though?
(which is an important thing for an international Head of State - though not necessarily for an elected leader)
However I'm a "royalist" with a small r, as I prefer a powerless "figurehead" as head of state rather than another layer of executive/autocratic control.
yep! Let the democratically elected leaders get on with running the country whilst the ceremonies, pomp, meet and greets, railway openings etc are handled by someone else. Ideally someone experienced and classy, with time on their hands, who has been trained in proper etiquette and public appearances from birth. 😀
I will never understand why people in this day and age still support the monarchy and what it stands for. Elitist, classist, discriminatory.
How many underprivileged lower class people are elected to be the head of state in countries without monarchies?
The concept of Royalty is not relevant in 2015. However I think the current one should finish her stint and let that be the end of it.
ted leaders get on with running the country whilst the ceremonies, pomp, meet and greets, railway openings etc are handled by someone else. Ideally someone experienced and classy, with time on their hands, who has been trained in proper etiquette and public appearances from birth.
Christopher Biggins and Una Stubbs.
Or Cheggers.
For those who object to the idea of an elected figurehead, saying it'd just be another politician... why should it be? We could use our collective imaginations and elect someone who we could all be proud to have represent us on the World Stage....
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Davros in a bad wig?
Personally I'd go for Stephen Fry or David Attenborough 🙂
How many underprivileged lower class people are elected to be the head of state in countries without monarchies?
Seems like a jolly good idea...
[url= http://mic.com/articles/92369/15-powerful-quotes-from-the-world-s-most-humble-president ]15 quotes from the world's most humble president[/url]
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Living in a small, one-bedroom farm with his wife, Sen. Lucia Toplansky, and a number of dogs (including three-legged Manuela), Mujica donates 90% of his salary to charity, leads by example in an age of austerity and has gained international acclaim for pushing ahead with policies on cannabis legalisation, same-sex marriage and abortion, while decrying excessive consumption.
I want someone who's so humble they don't even put themselves forward for the job.
"World's most humble president" isn't really praise is it?
"World's most reluctant president" I could go with.
"World's most reluctant president" I could go with.
"Brewster's Statutory Instruments"
She is highly political. Just now and then we find out just how involved in government she is. [url= http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/sep/25/bbc-apologises-queen-abu-hamza1 ]Queen lobbies home secretary[/url]
We know her views on a whole host of issues - when it suits her. She's against Scottish independence for example.
I will never understand why people in this day and age still support the monarchy and what it stands for. Elitist, classist, discriminatory.
...because none of the alternatives offer any significant improvement.
She's against Scottish independence for example.
that's hardly a "highly political" stance for a head of state now is it.
World's most humble president
He seems like a lovely bloke but I'm sure you'd agree that he's not exactly typical of the world's democratically elected heads of state is he?
The point is that getting rid of a monarchy doesn't magically transform countries into utopian meritocracies.
...because none of the alternatives offer any significant improvement.
Exactly!
So how many governments does the Queen have these days?
And how many Privy Councils?
The first time was a pretty loose definition of the term elected though! 😆 **** knows how he got in a 2nd. Bombing the shit out of iraq and afghanistan helped I guess.GrahamS - Member
Much as people may moan that having a monarchy is unfair or archaic, does anyone really think that electing your head of state is a much better and fairer system?
does anyone really think that electing your head of state is a much better and fairer system?
This is positively medieval and would fit quite comfortably in an ISIS-type perspective. Down with democracy!
that's hardly a "highly political" stance for a head of state now is it.
🙂
I've also heard she's against abolishing the Monarchy.....
So how many governments does the Queen have these days?
Not sure, but I know she has two armies. 😉
When Blair went to her about the Iraq War, wonder what she actually thought rather than the Political thought.
Long time ago now I know...
When Blair went to her about the Iraq War, wonder what she actually thought rather than the Political thought.
He probably said "you let me kill a load of towel heads and I'll see that no one touches your job for life ma'am", to which she probably said 'deal'.
With weekly meetings surely she'd be well informed of such matters...
does anyone really think that electing your head of state is a much better and fairer system?
I do. At the very minimum, it allows you to have checks and balances to make the head of state accountable and removable. The idea that people should automatically have a position of extraordinary privilege and constitutional significance because they belong to one family just baffles me.
The citizens of countries without monarchies seem to manage just fine without tugging their forelocks.
Surely she's never forgiven him for THAT speech...
I know I ****ing haven't. If we're going to try him for war crimes, try him for this first!
gonefishin - Member
I will never understand why people in this day and age still support the monarchy and what it stands for. Elitist, classist, discriminatory.
...because none of the alternatives offer any significant improvement.
Over absolute monarchy? 😆 you sure?
gonefishin - Member...because none of the alternatives offer any significant improvement.
This
I have no problem with the Royals
They're never sitting around on their arses
I have no problem with the RoyalsThey're never sitting around on their arses
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awfy nice of him to do someone out of a job! 😆
The citizens of countries without monarchies seem to manage just fine without tugging their forelocks.
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> ...because none of the alternatives offer any significant improvement.Over absolute monarchy? you sure?
We don't have an absolute monarchy in the UK. Are you thinking of somewhere else? Westeros maybe?
Whose Mrs would you rather look at?
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Over absolute monarchy? you sure?
Well as the topic here referred to the constitutional monarchy that we have in the UK rather than an absolute monarchy I didn't think it necessary to elaborate on that point. I suppose I should have made special allowance for the spectacularly hard of thinking. 😉
They're never sitting around on their arses
Are you sure?
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How many Thrones does she have scattered over the globe anyhoo?
Look at these lot below they are so happy ...
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Only JHJ could argue that the Queen does a lot of sitting around by posting photos of chairs that she isn't sitting in. 😆
So why do those chairs exist?
They don't look cheap...