[Closed] Tell me what car to buy oh wise Singletrackers

No lunchtime inspiration for me?

Dacia Sandero TCE. (not a joke)

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Have you thought about one of these? This generation can be had for little money in older varieties, the later versions not too bad either. The new ones are still commanding high prices though..

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^what is it? (other than a Merc)

Has no-one mentioned an Octavia VRs estate yet?

Golf. In whatever flavour you prefer.

If you're asking, then something Japanese - ie boringly reliable.

In STW tradition I'll recommend what I have - Volvo V40 in D4 r-design flavour. I looked at Audi A3 and the Golf GTD but preferred the Volvo to both of them. It's quite quick, pretty frugal and does a nice cruise on the motorway.

kubelwagen?

Well if you want it to be interesting to drive, scrap SUV's and Audi/VW

Toyota GT86 ?

How many miles do you expect to drive a year? Do you want fast or just normal?

VW Golf, absolutely everytime. It's just a great car. GTI if you wanna be flash.

what is it? (other than a Merc)

Thats not just a Merc, its the dullest one they make.

VW Golf, absolutely everytime. It's just a great car. GTI if you wanna be flash.

Aye there is some truth in this

But if I was after a VAG i'd have one of these

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Can you get that in a colour, or is primer the only option ?

Don't even think about a Juke if you have kids, they are laughably small inside.

What about a Focus ST? Can be had for under your budget and would be fun on your A&B roads and cheap on the motorway if you went for diesel version.

Mini Clubman (previous generation) are nice to drive, very economical and I can get my SS roadbike in the back without taking the wheels off. You can get any bike in the back with just the front off.

Funnily enough that was another one on my [s]short[/s] long list Rich.

How many miles do you expect to drive a year?

12,000

Do you want fast or just normal?

Depends who's measuring 🙂 Having been lucky enough to own and drive an Elise and a Boxster, I can safely say I don't need faster than that, but I'd certainly prefer something below 9s 0-60mph. How it feels to drive rather than out and out speed it arguably more important.

^^ That Merc is a BClass. They do all sorts of varieties, Petrol 1.8 & 2ltrs, through all range of Diesels from 1.8 to 2ltrs, manuals and autos. Autos mainly out there, don't discount petrol manuals though.
Keep a look out for AMG variants too.

I've owned a couple, the version above and the new one (which I have now) been great for chucking the bike(s) in incl wheels fitted.

Just a thought.

In that case look at an old shape honda civic petrol. You can get an exceptional example for under £5k, lots of space in the boot and they're actually quite involving to drive with good handling and high revving engine. 0-60 is under 9 seconds. My wife has one, they're much better value than VAG brands.

Don't even think about a Juke if you have kids, they are laughably small inside.

I've sat in one. I thought the boot looked quite practical for a small car and, whilst I couldn't physically sit upright in the back, it will typically only need to carry kids to school and back and won't get used for family journeys (we have an MPV for that).

solamanda do you mean the old shape or the old old shape? I had a 56 plate Civic CDTi and loved the practicality but the unpredictable turbo lag was something I never grew accustomed to.

Fiesta ST or 208gti?

Berlingo. Natch.

I mean the same shape but petrol 2006+, so no lag. I'd avoid the diesel versions with your low mileage and they are alot more expensive second hand.

lol it's funny this. My head is swimming with different ideas for cars. I don't know why asking on here would improve that situation 😆

FWIW the car I want is a BMW 1 Series 118 or 120d, automatic and with xDrive, but even second hand models are a bit steep.

In that case look at the 3 series. I was looking at cars like 123d's until I realised I could get a 335d for almost the same money!

I struggle with long sentences. In true STW style I will recommend the car that I own.

You need an Smax.

Edit - Quality auto correct for what I originally put 😀

You need an Smax.

No I don't. The other car is a Sharan.

Sell the sharran and buy something smaller then... Oh... Hang on.

In STW tradition I'll recommend what I have - Volvo V40 in D4 r-design flavour. I looked at Audi A3 and the Golf GTD but preferred the Volvo to both of them. It's quite quick, pretty frugal and does a nice cruise on the motorway.

I really want one of those v40's. What size engine did you go for?

Are there any negatives about the design/layout etc. especially from a bike hauling perspective? Are there mounts for roof bars etc?

Currently running a 54 plate focus 1.6vct (petrol), and I know the basic design of the v40 is focus based.

The D4 is a 2.0 diesel I think, 0-62 in 7.4 seconds and I get an average indicated mpg of about 55, that's with a fair chunk of stop start driving in town.

It's not huge in the back but easy big enough for bikes with the seats down. I'm not sure if it has mounts but the xc models come with roof bars.

For me, it's close to the perfect car, nice to be in, not too big/small, drives pretty well but not at the expense of comfort, quite quick but still economical. I sat in a golf and didn't even bother driving it, just felt like a depressing place to be. I had a 118d BMW for a while too, it was nice enough but I prefer the Volvo.

do the seats drop and can you get a bike in the back of a beemer 1 series? or are you relying on a tow bar carrier which means you can't leave the car unattended with a bike on the back?

Seat Leon FR Diesel? Plenty of power, shed loads of torque. VW running gear.

The 1 Series has a pretty good load space to be honest. It's definitely an important consideration.

How about an X1. We have the 1.8d Xdrive and it is a brilliant car. (ours was new) but you can get a second hand one at a reasonable cost. The only thing I don't like are the run flat tyres.

Been looking at them too, but they're quite an expensive way of owning a Beemer.

I had a BMW 118D as my last company car.
Great to drive, good fuel economy (50mpg even with me driving it like a tw*t)
I could get two MTBs in the back with the seats down and the front wheels off.
However the rear legroom is shocking, especially if you need the front seats right back - as I did at 5'10"

Loved it though - more fun but less practical than my current Passat Estate.

The 1 Series has a pretty good load space to be honest. It's definitely an important consideration.

I bought one in October with exactly the same brief as the OP. They (the 2011-shape) are bigger than they look, and if you ignore the distance from behind you to the rear window the cockpit is quite like being in a five series.

I bought the 120d MSport - 0-60 7 secs, averaging 55mpg have done up to 66mpg.

However the rear legroom is shocking, especially if you need the front seats right back

I'm taller than the poster here and it must be position becuase although not great, I leave adequate legroom. I say adequate, because it isn't good hence its a car for "me" whilst we also have bigger family car to cart the kids around in. Just don't expect 5 adults in the car without the 3 in the back moaning, although of course they will fit.

This is the same as mine:

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Lovely drive to, if you "get" BMW.

I had almost the exact same criteria, except that I also wanted something that I'd actually enjoy - I didn't want to feel like I was driving the same box as everyone else.

I looked at a 1-series coupe (can get the bike in), Mini Clubman, some Volvo and bought an Alfa Giulietta which is ace.

Leon has appalling rear vision.

If you are thinking practicality, what about a Yeti?

For something completely out there try one of these
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Based on the Bentley Continental GT.
Been a passenger in a W12 petrol, just bonkers for not much money.

Does it have to be newish, as in less than 5 years old? If not, an Alpina BMW might fit the bill.

Other than that, I had a Lexus that was very nicely made and a pleasure to drive.

Just bought my Wife a year old Focus, with the 1.0 litre engine.
Great little car.
Drives far nicer than a 1.0 litre car should do.

If you are thinking practicality

I'm not. We have a superbly practical (big) family car already. As long as it has 4-5 seats and I can fit my bike in the boot with the seats down I don't need much more practicality. I realise that gives me a huge range to pick from and this is half my challenge.

Does it have to be newish, as in less than 5 years old?

Yes, but only in the sense that I need to be adding select criteria not removing them 😆

If you want a 1 series, then get one!

https://www.leaseyournextcar.com/bmw/1-series-hatchback-lease

These guys (amongst others) do some very cheap leasing deals - the right side of £300 as you have requested.

I would try a couple of other cars too to make sure that the 1 series is indeed the 1!

(also if you are open minded about what you get there are some real cheap lease deals to be had golf R for example! - less than £300)

Try the pistonheads web site and search best leasing deals - there are a few companies who consistently have really good deals

If you want something practical, fun and sporty to drive, don't get a Yeti.

I found it less practical for bikes than my old 3 door BMW 1 series. The Yeti seats don't fold flat, they fold forward and the back is quite short so 29er bikes don't fit in with the front wheel out. You actually have to remove the parcel shelf and the seats and have to lug them and have somewhere to store them. It is far easier to just drop the rear seats flat in a normal car, although having the bikes upright is nice.

Other half just picked up a Mini Clubman Cooper S and I am really impressed by it. It is well specced and a lovely place to be with a decent size boot with the seats flat. Her bike fits in with just the front wheel out.

I got rid of my Yeti after a year and have gone back to a BMW - went back to a 56 plate 330i petrol touring. Much nicer in every respect. Can get the other halfs road bike in the back with the seats down with both wheels still on 🙂

#wonders what happened to Kryton's Alfa? 😕

Anyway, these car threads are soo boring cos the budget's are always too small to enable us to talk about exciting cars. I mean a Seat Leon's good for a holiday hire car.......but that IS ALL!

I think you should get one of these:

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But then i'm a bit biased......... 😆

(as this is STW, i feel safe in suggesting a car that fits exactly none of your needs but that i like.........)

Chevy Captiva LTX. Or the equivalent Vauxhall Antara.
great value.

I currently have the Merc A class as my company car ,mine's an A200CDI sport.

I didn't have a choice ,it was simply the car that was available when I joined.

Having previously had a 320d I was a little underwhelmed by it initially, but I've warmed to it.

Good points are build quality, high quality interior,comfortable seats,good handling ,great refinement and reasonable performance.

I seem to get lots if positive comments on how it looks too.

I'd say a 1 series is a bit nicer to drive,but as suggested above they are rather cramped in the back.

If it was my own money I'd be looking at the new Mazda 3 or a Seat Leon. Focus drives well too but interior is crap and small boot, VW Golf is a good all rounder but a little ubiquitous and the Leon does the same for less. V40 looks nice,great engine in the D4 but again not overly big,and softer handling than some.

I have loads of cars through work, recent ones that I've thought were very good are:

Mazda 3, 2.2d 150bhp really liked this and I think it would suit your needs, they have all the bells and whistles you could want, the engine is superb, it feels nimble but well made and solid and whilst I had ot returned 60mpg.

Toyota Rav 4, good motorway cruiser and spacious but doesnt feel too big around town also given its size v good mpg.

at the moment I'm thinking the Mazda may be my next car.

In true stw fashion I've just gone back and read the previous posts after posting myself.
If you like the 1 series you'll like the Mazda 3, its the same format but fully kitted but not as dull.

Sporty mazda.

#wonders what happened to Kryton's Alfa?

Wasn't there some sort of insurmountable problem finding suitable sunglasses to match its rare, 'heritage' pedigree?

@thegingerone. Don't forget, your other half is a munchkin.

I bought a 57 plate petrol Civic 3 years ago for £5.5k. Still only has 50k on the clock so depreciation wasn't too bad, paid off in 30 months inside your monthly budget. I love it, can't say I've owned many cars but had a few years of hire cars and it'd be my pick over any of those. Just got it back from an accident repair after having a polo for 3 weeks. **** me that thing was dull!

wilburt

Mazda 3, 2.2d 150bhp really liked this and I think it would suit your needs, they have all the bells and whistles you could want, the engine is superb, it feels nimble but well made and solid and whilst I had ot returned 60mpg.

Nimble is not a word that comes to mind imo when describing a Mazda 3 diesel. Feels like there's a boat anchor in the front, which pushes the nose wide (or just turns on the DSC light) as soon as you try and use the performance on offer (which is ok, but not nearly as strong as the 120d, which can put all it's power to the road)

Skoda Yeti? It's on my radar to replace my current car.

@maxtorque, quite possibly, I didnt carry out a driving like a **** test.

rickmeister - Member
Can you get that in a colour, or is primer the only option ?

I genuinely lolled!

Did a load of car shopping today with tape measure for the boot and lots of sitting, prodding and perusing which helped dismiss a few models. I kept coming back to the 118d. Got a few more to try tomorrow but definitely narrowed it down a bit now.

I think you should get one of these:

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But then i'm a bit biased.........

(as this is STW, i feel safe in suggesting a car that fits exactly none of your needs but that i like.........)

nah, he wants a car from someone who can at least make a half decent F1 car and doesnt bitch about it's engine supplier in public.

😉

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lambo

Saw this whilst browsing. Very VERY nice. My favourite current sports car at any price.

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i just handed back my mini clubman, which was ace and fits your wishlist, little bit on the small side for four people though.

Just picked up a Citroën cactus. It's weird, but big, comfy and pretty well spec'd for the money. The 1.2 (110PS) engine is surprisingly "nippy."

Can be picked up for less than £200 pm, spec it up a bit and it's not much more.

I love my Alfa giulietta. Good PCP deals ATM too as its changing next year. Nice drive with the DNA mode switched to D. Happily gets a bike in the back with the seats down, even with the wheels on.

@richard I measured up a Mini Clubman and the boot wasn't really big enough for my bike bag. Also, even my wife - who very much likes them - admitted it didn't really suit me.

I think the Cactus is a great looking car in its own unique way. My heart wants something a touch sportier though.

We were in the same position a year or so ago and ended up with a 3yr old 1 series from a franchised dealer. Mistake. It's been back in the garage for the last week having a long list of issues fixed. Warranty runs out in April so it'll be gone asap.

We'll be going back to new as new cars are simply nicer than second hand and don't have to cost much more. A3, V40, Focus, Leon and A Class are on the list. Golf is not as they are so dull it hurts and cost as much as the A3.

On the BMW, I hate the thing because of all the issues but it's a great car to drive.

I've currently got the relevant Whispbar roof bars for the mini Clubman for sale on eBay, so you could just pop your bike on the roof instead!

I'm just coming towards the end of a 2 year lease with a m135i. It is just within your monthly budget. My requirements are /were basically the same as yours. It's a fantastic machine and great to drive, but I'm going to replace it with something a bit more sensible. Frankly, 320bhp in a small car is a bit silly - you just instantly hit license-worrying speeds. I can't really think of anything more exciting whilst being as practical / reliable / comfortable though. The rear seats are not really adult-sized, but mine has the rear seats down all the time. It swallows my large strive race with the front wheel removed.

Before that, I had a Civic FN2 type-R and I'd definitely recommend that if you can cope with the image. Feels special in a racecar sort of way, makes a great noise. The boot was huge too. A more sensible rate of speed accumulation than the beemer, but it would probably get beaten at overtakes by torquey diesels - it's not actually super fast (6.6s to 62 IIRC) and you need to rev the balls off it to go fast.

Go for automatic gear in whatever you intend to buy coz manual is so yesterday. 😛

You can buy my 61 plate Leon FR if you want?
Mind you it has one of them engines the suffocate baby Robins.

Deposit paid on a 62 plate 118d. Picking it up Thursday 🙂

Enjoy it!

Mildly gutted. My excitement at picking up the 1 Series today will have to be tempered until tomorrow due to them not being able to get all the prep finished today 🙁

Oh no. What colour did you go for?

Did you end up sitting in the showroom in the naughty seat just to be told "it ain't ready Son"??