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I'm not reading all that shit, but if you want user feedback for grass or any other drug for that matter, head over to erowid.org
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Re. genetically modified, it isn't, but it has been selectively bred, like chickens.
Re. having taken it being an admission of possession, well you'd have to be found in possession of it. Obviously logically if you have taken the drug then you must have been in possession of it one time, but that isn't grounds for prosecution.
The other point which has come up a couple of times is the "I tried it several times but it didn't do anything for me". This is quite typical. It seems to be an acquired effect.
The nature of the stuff that is available has certainly changed over the years. It used to be grown by peasant farmers in Morocco, Afghanistan or ****stan. Now it is more likely to come from the basement of a detached house in Surrey. What was once a mild effect can be very different these days. I think this is why you hear of people suffering serious mental issues associated with Cannabis smoking.
As a drug it isn't very compatible with actually getting anything done - it's a bit of a loser's drug.
In answer to the OP's original question I'm not sure there is any point in trying to describe how it feels to take any specific drug. If the likes of Coleridge and de Quincey can't nail it then most of us are wasting our time. The good news is that you can give it a go and you won't get "hooked", but you might have to persist a bit.
We should organise an STW pot heads ride, where no one manages to leave the carpark and just sit around chilling for a few hours talking about riding..
I was banned for that
As a drug it isn’t very compatible with actually getting anything done – it’s a bit of a loser’s drug.
Whereas drunk folk are well known for their high level functioning.
As a drug it isn’t very compatible with actually getting anything done – it’s a bit of a loser’s drug.
Whereas drunk folk are well known for their high level functioning.
I'm yet to find a drug better than caffeine for improved performance in the workplace.
You might fancy that Coke or Speed might help, but in reality you just do less quicker.
As a drug it isn’t very compatible with actually getting anything done – it’s a bit of a loser’s drug.
Unless you’re a musician in a successful stoner rock band.
As a drug it isn’t very compatible with actually getting anything done – it’s a bit of a loser’s drug.
I would disagree. I know a lot of people that smoke and are still very productive.
It all depends on that person's mindset and their consumption.
I know one lawyer who uses it to help concentrate when reading long documents.
I used to be more focused when drawing plans for jobs. Was less distracted. Not had a smoke for a long time now, mind.
I know a few pro guys who ride and are mixing it up with the top 30% in the EWS who smoke more joints in a day than I ever could. One on each uplift last time I rode with them.
So you’ve never had any yet you know its sh*t……..? You’re stoned and talking sh*t more like. How can you say that with certainty? Now that is incredibly irritating. If anyone on hear should have a spliff……..
Perhaps if you hadn't smoked as much you would be able to understand English a little better. I guess pot is your first language. I didn't say I'd never tried it.
The OP didn't ask for it to be compared to other drugs, including alcohol.
The title of the post is. "Talk to me about weed." It was a while back. Do you remember?
bigjim, you’ve just described genetic modification 🙂 just because it’s not done in a lab does not mean that the genes aren’t being modified. Pretty much everything you eat has been genetically modified. Bloody farmers
No, you're talking rubbish, please stop.
Look at a scientific definition of genetic modification eg
https://www2.gov.scot/Topics/farmingrural/Agriculture/Environment/15159/definition
I’m yet to find a drug better than caffeine for improved performance in the workplace. You might fancy that Coke or Speed might help, but in reality you just do less quicker.
You're missing my point. Saying its a losers drug is stupid as you could say the same for alcohol since you're not going to be doing anything better with a strong drink in you. Of course you could moderate your intake or just not partake when you have stuff to do but that would just be ridiculous.
Gears-suck you sound like an evangelist preacher. What's next, rock music and pre-marital sex?
Gears-suck you sound like an evangelist preacher. What’s next, rock music and pre-marital sex?
Curious.... You sound like someone trying to bolster a poorly laid out argument. The OP asked for opinions, I have one, as do you. Mines just better!
I know one lawyer who uses it to help concentrate when reading long documents.
Only one eh?
I used to be more focused when drawing plans for jobs. Was less distracted. Not had a smoke for a long time now, mind.
Boy, I'd love to see those plans.
I know a few pro guys who ride and are mixing it up with the top 30% in the EWS who smoke more joints in a day than I ever could. One on each uplift last time I rode with them.
Dude, this is fricking hilarious. Keep it coming. Top 30%. Brilliant!
One of the big problems with prohibition is it restricts choice for the end user. I see a few people in here saying they like lower strength cannabis but get anxious / paranoid smoking skunk. What people call Skunk is really a heavy indica strain, selectively bread for high THC content. Thing is, when THC goes up, CBD goes down in return and CBD is the anti-psychotic side. This is the locked to the couch, no going out sort of high that saps peoples motivation.
A nice light indica on the other hand will make you giggly and talkative. These take a lot longer to grow, so none of the commercial growers are interested.
A proper shop with a good selection and knowledgable staff could negate all of these problems and cut down on the mental heath issues. The tax revenue would be insane too.
They key to enjoying drugs safely is education, not scaremongering. Many town and city centres turn into a no go zone on Friday and Saturday nights while aggressive drunks wander the streets. Perhaps we could get some of these guys on something a bit more friendly ?
All i know is this.
i spent 7 years in the army drinking ridiculous amounts of alcohol then continued for another 10 years or so after doing the same, acted regrettably a few times whilst drunk but bar a hangover it never affected my personality on a daily basis, was always extremely driven to be physically fit and never missed a days work. I then matured and prioritise other things. At times the people I hung around with were constantly taking drugs, starting with pot then invariably many moving on to stronger stuff (I say invariably because that’s what happens in peer groups like myself in the army). Steered clear of it myself but spent 7 years living with a partner that would smoke weed daily, no motivation, paranoia and mood swings. She stopped for a few weeks and the change in her was remarkable then went back to it. Those that say its cool it’s not just like its not cool seeing someone who’s drunk when you’re sober. Drink becomes a problem when you drink just to get drunk, so when you’re smoking weed alone ask yourself why that is. It’s normally to hide or distort reality.. Musicians are a poor example as they don’t generally get up at 6am to do a 12 hour shift, if they did they wouldn’t keep their job as motivation would be 0.
Gears, you obviously have your opinions but they are no better than anyone else's. At least some people are trying not to be closed minded know it alls.
Try Wheatons Law for a bit eh?
Junior used to ski with a couple of brothers who were heavy users. Summers surfing on the coast with stoner surfurs and Winters going big in the parc. The parents weren't bothered as they were regular consumers too.Anyhow it wasn't doing one of the brothers any good. One of those who really shouldn't touch the stuff he became more and more parano, one day he had a bit of a family tiff and ran out the hosue lightly dressed and barefoot. He spent the next couple of days wandering around then lay down and died of cold.
So that's one person in the circles I move in who would still be here if he hadn't smoked dope, to which I can add:
A heroin death ( from AIDS due to a contaminated needle)
2 motorcycle deaths due to drink driving
1 drowning due to drink
1 suicide with drink as a part of the problem
Cigarettes unquantifiable
several drink driving deaths
The most fun with the lowest risk I'd suggest is magic mushrooms, go easy to start with obviously. And the drugs that have caused the most non fatal misery around me: prescription mind altering drugs prescribed to people with minor mind problems, and alcohol.
Ffs, its like these things can't be taken in moderation...
EDIT: not in reply to Edukator
Gears, you obviously have your opinions but they are no better than anyone else’s. At least some people are trying not to be closed minded know it alls.
I think he needs to chill out a bit, if only there was a substance available that could be inhaled to achieve this result. . . . .
I used cannabis regularly for some years, but don't any more.
What does it actually do for you? Is there a type of drunkenness (or some other form of experience) it could be compared to?
The things I always enjoyed about the drug included a mild elation; a sort of "free-flowing" state of mind where I felt I could think more creatively and spontaneously; a heightened appreciation of music; and a general feeling of warmth.
I don't think I would describe it as being similar to alcohol at all; I find them to yield very different experiences. It's tempting to think along the lines of "getting drunk", but a better analogue might be to consider the the ways in which e.g. caffeine, opiates (say painkillers such as morphine or codeine), and alcohol differ. They can all affect your mental state, but in different ways.
Are there ‘good’ and ‘bad’ ways of ingesting it?
I mostly smoked joints. That's 'bad' inasmuch as you're smoking (often mixing with tobacco) so all the negative aspects of smoking cigarettes apply.
Compared with other ways of smoking weed (e.g. pipes, bongs, etc), joints have the benefit of taking a while to consume so you can moderate your intake a bit. If you drink, this is similar to the difference between drinking pints v.s. drinking shots. It's easier to get drunker than you intended, more quickly than you realised, when quaffing shots.
I also used edibles a bit, usually home-made. I believe this is actually synthesised differently by the body (although I don't have a reference for this claim). I always found edibles much "trippier" than smoking. It was much more dream-like, and tended to produce very intense thoughts which bordered on hallucination at times. This can be good fun if you're expecting it, but not so much if you're not! The other factor to consider with consumables is that they're hard to pace yourself with. Taking them is like taking a roller-coaster ride: you can't get off half-way through if you don't like it. I always found edibles fun, but because they're much harder to control and produced markedly different effects I tended to think of them almost as a different drug.
What would you say are its benefits? What are its downsides?
Benefits: if the effects of weed sound good to you, you may well have a good time! For sure, smoking a joint and watching some good comedy, or talking nonsense with friends, can be a great evenings entertainment. Some people find weed helps them a lot with creative work. Some folks report it being great for pain relief. Compared with getting drunk on alcohol the hangover is much less debilitating.
Downsides: smoking is bad for you (if you choose to take it that way). Unless you live somewhere that weed is legal, or you know a friendly home-grower, you'll be supporting unknown criminals with your weed purchases. As other people have mentioned, having it in your bloodstream can have serious consequences in your working life, or if you drive under the influence. A lot of people find it makes them paranoid to a greater or lesser extent, and I understand there is a degree of correlation between heavy weed consumption and the development of serious mental issues in some cases. It can be habit forming.
I’m yet to find a drug better than caffeine for improved performance in the workplace.
Micro-dosing with LSD is apparently the top dog for performance and creativity nowadays.
Used it as a teen back in the late 90's early 00's, mainly with the peer group. We'd generally meet up, play some Championship Manager, get takeaway and listen to music and chat shit. Parent knew what we were doing it and would rather we did it in the house instead of the streets so let us use the garage. Probably went on for years till some of the group started taking pills and other things.
I do remember the day I chose to completely stop, walking home at silly o'clock pretty stoned and hearing a group of people talking loud, only to not have anyone around me at all. Took that as the paranoia kicking in and thought **** it, no more.
weed is stronger these days, but the idea that that means in more dangerous is a bit silly, smoke a wee bit less and it'll have the same effect as stuff years gone by. It's stronger cause stuff years ago was terrible. There is nothing inherently dangerous about the stronger stuff it's just thc and cbd, in that you can have a discussion about the merits about different levels of CBD, but thc isn't inherently dangerous (usual acception to people with existing mental issues applies, but they shouldn't be altering their mental state with anything, so that's a bit of a false argument imo.). Just regulate your intake.
As for whether people like it or not, i don't really care, just don't criminalise me for it.
The nature of the stuff that is available has certainly changed over the years. It used to be grown by peasant farmers in Morocco, Afghanistan or ****stan. Now it is more likely to come from the basement of a detached house in Surrey. What was once a mild effect can be very different these days.
What was once a mild effect is cause it was sent to spain and mixed with alsorts of shite, the move from spanish processed/imported solid to home driven grows was a good one. Let's not get all misty eyed about weed from years ago, for 95% of the uk it was shite.
incidently btw, real hash by it's very nature, should actually be stonger than weed, it should just be the good bits minus the plant material, but that's not what people get. If you have enough weed you can make your own hash.
For all those saying that it’s energy sapping, you should read a couple of Bruce Lee biographies. He’s the definition of energetic and was a bit of a pot fiend by all accounts.
Also, Dorian Yates, 6 times Mr Olympia, pot head, and the empirical opposite of a loser.
Snoop Dogg also wants a word what with his 16 solo albums gawd knows how many collaborations and 139 (ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE) IMDB credits (just for acting btw, plenty of other credits too)
Also Joe Rogan, stand up comedian, MMA commentator, podcaster (up to 1211 podcasts on the JRE alone) hunter, fitness freak and pothead.
Any of you super productive non-stoners want to compare achievements/bodies of work?
Argh! You’ve ruined it with Snoop Dogg 😀 his credits for acting are more like credits for being himself. Joshua Homme and Brant Bjork can also be added to the list of over achieving slackers.
and don't forget Bill Clinton... 😉