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I tried it twice, in the early 1990s, when a relative was a total pothead. I was trying to argue that he should give it up, and he was saying that I couldn't say that unless I tried it. So I did. Twice. And it didn't do much for me. That said, in light of its increasing legalisation, I am interested in its effects.

What does it actually do for you? Is there a type of drunkenness (or some other form of experience) it could be compared to? Are there 'good' and 'bad' ways of ingesting it? What would you say are its benefits? What are its downsides?

I can possibly imagine some, but I would like to know from the perspective of regular, or experienced, users.

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Posted : 03/12/2018 4:37 pm
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Sod it man, i mean, it's not like you've got much else on at the moment.

Crack on and report back!


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:42 pm
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You're seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.

Is that a good call?

Does anybody know how to increase the power of my air pistol to at least twice the legal power limit?


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:44 pm
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From my experience it seems to turn anyone who takes it into the most tedious person on the planet


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:49 pm
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Aye, cos that's the same, innit. Well done Dewek.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:49 pm
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You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.

He has had a blow to the head, wouldn't take much of a lawyer to get him off anything at the moment.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:52 pm
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My older brother makes Bob Marley look like an occasional recreational user.

He’s 49 but looks seventy

Might be a coincidence though.


 
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Why do you need to try it to criticise it - I gave up fags recently having spent years listening to people tell me to - I never said to them ‘you need to try it before criticising me’...!!


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:56 pm
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You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.

No, he's asking for information.  Asking for advice would be 'should I take it?'


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 4:58 pm
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You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.

He's asking for information about a substance which is legal in many places, most recently (and perhaps what has piqued the OP's interest), in Canada.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 5:01 pm
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 I couldn’t say that unless I tried it. So I did. Twice. And it didn’t do much for me.

This forum. *sigh*

Trying something twice and not understanding it doesn't mean it's time to walk away or dismiss it.

Much like getting the hang of riding your bike...

Practice practice practice 😉

There's an absolute ton of good information on drugs and their effects online if researching stuff is of more interest than partaking


 
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You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.

No, he’s asking for information.  Asking for advice would be ‘should I take it?’

Also, he's not asking about sourcing it in the UK. If any questions were to be asked the answer would be, 'I'm planning a trip to Amsterdam, Vancouver, other, so am learning about risks should I choose to try it.'


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 5:09 pm
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I'm told that standard weed is not easily available. Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified to increase THC. Some of if can cause mental health problems it's so strong. (The boss' eldest son was sectioned for several months having smoked stronger stuff for a couple of years at uni).


 
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From my experience it seems to turn anyone who takes it into the most tedious person on the planet

I'll admit I used to take a lot of drugs, if you want annoying people in your life, mix with coke heads. They don't call it instant arsehole powder for nothing. It's lovely, couldn't recommend it though.

As for weed, I can't really help you much. In the 90s and 00s it was like a sedative, you smoked a bit of weed, melted into the sofa, sometimes giggled yourself silly, sometimes couldn't stop eating, but for the most part it was just a nice feeling - 'the buzz' isn't like alcohol, but yes it changes the way you feel and it generally feels pretty good. Occasionally, especially if you started smoking a lot very often you could become very paranoid. Actually that's something that effects people when they first try it sometimes too, but you were generally okay in the middle ground. It is an incredible painkiller too.

However, times they have changed. Back then you either got industrial grade low grade hash from Morocco which was generally pretty horrible but got you stoned, pressed blocks of imported seedy dry weed which was okay but pretty mild or home grown weed which was often hard to find, but usually pretty good if the grower had the patience to let it grown fully and dry it before selling it, which well got you stoned.

These days it's a bit more organised, it's grown in rented houses on an industrial level, whole houses full of grow lights and extraction systems and either the sellers or the market have been pushing higher and higher levels of THC (the psychoactive element) through selective breeding - I heard on the radio the other day that 'street weed' / skunk is around 14 times stronger than it was. I tried some a few years ago and I didn't like it, doesn't seem to relax you at all any more, it's more like a stimulant, mind racing a million miles an hour but not really functioning. 'the buzz' was just unpleasant to me. It's was like hoping for a nice post-ride pint and then necking 6 cans of Special Brew with a couple of oddly coloured Vodka shots.

I'm told if you want nice weed these days you need a good dealer and or ideally join one of the pseudo legal Cannabis clubs and secure a source of decent weed with a good THC / CBD.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 5:13 pm
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I am guessing this is either for use in Amsterdam or California*

Quite different to alcohol.

Much less mischievous and trouble making. The "giggles" correctly describes it mixed with mellowness and relaxed and not giving a shit. None of the aggressiveness and feeling of being invincible, argumentative etc - quite the opposite when the paranoia sets in after a while.

As a one off every now and then it's fine (but rather not smoked due to the health effects of smoke) and I would say better than alcohol (if just taking to get drunk). It's the long term changes that I have seen all too often that are the problem. That happy giggly phase starts to become rare and an overwhelming and controlling paranoia and depression kicks in.

I don't get hooked to substances, coffee was the only vice anyone thought I had but I haven't touched a drop for 3 weeks now purely as an experiment and to prove to my doctor it's not the coffee giving me urinary problems.

*other places are legalised too


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 5:16 pm
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P-jay has covered it nicely. I used to partake in the late 90’s and early 00’s and much preferred it to alcohol. My house, weekend in winter, bring an instrument and some food. Good times just jamming, listening to music and using California Games or Teken to decide who makes a brew / rings for a takeaway / answers the door etc. Mixing resin with yoghurt used to produce an interesting effect.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 5:21 pm
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it goes well with Tim Hortons


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 5:31 pm
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30 years ago, basically harmless and surely less damaging than alcohol though smoking with tobacco isn't exactly the best delivery method. Couldn't vouch for the modern stronger stuff though. And even back then i had one scary paranoid experience which was funny with hindsight but a bit upsetting at the time. Think it's eaten a chunk for some reason.

Now mushrooms, that was mental fun. Just brilliant.

Apart from the stupid laws, I can't see a good reason for someone who is happy to drink occasionally to also try some of the other not-terribly-addictive drugs as well. They aren't particularly worse or more dangerous, it's just historical accident that they are illegal and alcohol isn't.


 
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I liked the first bit if you have a few tokes but the rest was just rubbish as I felt it robbed me of time I could be doing something else. I felt the effects of it sometimes 2 days after. Where as other drugs the bad bit is over with after a day max. Give it a go


 
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I’d say that the biggest challenge to use is the tests for drug driving, as I understand it there are no accepted levels in the same way as drink driving and so you could potentially test as positive many days or even weeks post use.

if driving is key in or out of work I’d look into that aspect in detail.


 
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I’d say that the biggest challenge to use is the tests for drug driving, as I understand it there are no accepted levels in the same way as drink driving

There is, but a lot less info on how much or how long after using is ‘safe’. The Police usually ask if you’ve taken any in the last 24 hours, but if you don’t look stoned and don’t have a car that stinks of weed you won’t be tested.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:25 pm
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PM Somafunk.. he's had experience of all sorts of pain relieving drugs.  From memory he's broken his back twice in about 5 places and lives in varying degrees of pain.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:27 pm
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I get hold of vapable weed oil. Works a treat for slowing down my mind chatter. It lowers my anxiety , BPD & depression.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:32 pm
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Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified to increase THC

I doubt it, coulds quite a lot to modify a crop I imagine.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:43 pm
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I'd be very surprised if the OP knows where to get hold of any, so we probably don't need to worry 🙂


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:46 pm
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As I understand it, taking drugs of any class isn't illegal. Asking to buy drugs isn't illegal. And asking for advise online certainly isnt illegal.

Being in possession, selling, offering to sell or supply , or manufacturing is. Likewise being under the influence behind the wheel.

So if the op is considering it then as long as he doesn't get caught with it then he hasn't broken any laws. Not sure why he's want to however..never did anything for me.


 
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Give it a go

Thanks, but no thanks. As I said, I tried it in the early 1990s, and have had no interest since. All sorts of people do, though, which is why I asked the question. I just want to understand it. To be honest, I wouldn't mind knowing about the experience of other drug use, too, but asking in public is probably not the done thing.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:48 pm
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I feel much better having an edible on a Friday night to wind down after the working week, than I did when using alcohol to do the same. There are different strains, sativa is more energising, indica is more relaxing.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:49 pm
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lol I just got a moderator warning. 🤔

Drugs are bad kids, don't do them or you'll have a terrible time 🤐


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 6:52 pm
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I tried it twice, in the early 1990s

Did you even inhale bro?


 
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To be honest, I wouldn’t mind knowing about the experience of other drug use, too, but asking in public is probably not the done thing.

There's quite a lot written about it, both fiction and non.  Try Niall Griffiths, since you're a man of leisure currently.  I wonder if now you'll appreciate the benefit of e-readers 🙂


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 7:23 pm
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"as long as he doesn’t get caught with it then he hasn’t broken any laws."

Hmm. Fairly sure that if you steal my bike but manage to sell it down the pub before the police catch up with you then you're still a criminal.

You buy illegal drugs, you support drug dealers. You support drug dealers you support all the violence, abuse and death that goes with them.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 7:28 pm
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tried it twice.

threw up twice.

so not for me.


 
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You buy illegal drugs, you support drug dealers. You support drug dealers you support all the violence, abuse and death that goes with them.

And lets not forget that video piracy funds terrorism.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 7:31 pm
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And home taping is killing music.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 7:33 pm
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Lots of studies have shown that it exacerbates mental health disorders in those susceptible to developing them. Modern neuroimaging advances have shown that it accelerates grey brain matter loss ... so its not good for the brain regardless what long term users will tell you ... or themselves.

From my own experience; I tried it quite a bit more than twice whilst I was younger. It just wasn`t something I liked. Alcohol was definitely my favoured poison ... which itself is toxic to the body & brain.


 
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On the positive side, I’d pay good money to see a Cardiff Canadian attempt a fake Jamaican accent in an attempt to say the phrase.....”Chiiiiiiiiilllllll Wiiiiiinstoooon”

That’d be actual priceless. 😂


 
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Hmm. Fairly sure that if you steal my bike but manage to sell it down the pub before the police catch up with you then you’re still a criminal

Yes, you could be convicted of theft, or handling stolen goods.

But that's irrelevant. What law would someone have broken if they had taken drugs? Assuming they aren't caught with them in their possession.

Not saying taking drugs is the thing to do, they have the potential to ruin your life, simply pointing out it's not illegal to take them.


 
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lol I just got a moderator warning. 🤔

Drugs are bad kids, don’t do them or you’ll have a terrible time 🤐

And your original post has vanished! It’s not the weed making you paranoid, they really are out to get you 😱


 
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 I couldn’t say that unless I tried it. So I did. Twice. And it didn’t do much for me.

practice makes perfect.

i like drugs, but i particularly like weed.  had the very occasional smoke in the last couple of months (the shit with my driving licence is done... i passed the drug and psychologist test in September!) but was virtually drug free for 18 months.

can't say that i felt any better. if anything the reality of life is more of a downer now than it was previously. it numbs the pain of reality.

i now drink lots more red wine.

i like weed.


 
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Presumably if the CPS could be bothered (i. e. deemed it in the public interest)  then an admission of taking drugs is an admission of having them in your possession.

In scotland you would need further evidence as IIRC you can't incriminate yourself, not sure about the rest of the uk. Not sure if there's a statute of limitations either.


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 8:00 pm
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Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified

No it isn't, it's just bred into different strains that have varying amounts of the active compounds.

Just don't do what Jon Snow did on the telly for your first time and you'll have a great time. Hopefully the UK will catch up with the US and Canada and make available better ways of consuming it than some illegally grown stuff rolled with a B&H.


 
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I’d say that the biggest challenge to use is the tests for drug driving, as I understand it there are no accepted levels in the same way as drink driving and so you could potentially test as positive many days or even weeks post use.

tell me about it...!

but then you could argue that the drug tests are flawed and are not a good indicator of whether you are fit to drive.  THC hangs around in the system even though it is no longer active.


 
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Presumably if the CPS could be bothered (i. e. deemed it in the public interest)  then an admission of taking drugs is an admission of having them in your possession.

In scotland you would need further evidence as IIRC you can’t incriminate yourself, not sure about the rest of the uk. Not sure if there’s a statute of limitations either.

You'd think so but law says you need to be caught in possession as far as I am aware. Even if you admitted it, or took a photo of you snorting a line and posted it online, how do they prove it's an illegal substance.


 
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My take on it is , it's like a great friend that you love hanging out with & you can have a brilliant time with & you are tight. But what you don't realize is that your best friend is kind of twisted a likes sutly influencing you in ways thatare against your best interest , their a bit of a sociopath & the longer your in their influence is very much against your general well being.

I was influenced for a long time , but I also laughed my ass of also. I don't really do regret but am glad as **** I stopped, can't stand the stuff now.

Just my take.


 
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bigjim, you've just described genetic modification 🙂 just because it's not done in a lab does not  mean that the genes aren't being modified. Pretty much everything you eat has been genetically modified.  Bloody farmers 😉


 
Posted : 03/12/2018 8:33 pm
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"What law would someone have broken if they had taken drugs? Assuming they aren’t caught with them in their possession"

Possession. Usually a necessary step when going from not having something and having it.

In the same way that getting a car from Tower Bridge to Brighton in half an hour is going to involve speeding, even if you don't encounter a policeman or trigger a speed camera on the way.

The link between video piracy and terrorism might be tenuous or not, doesn't really matter. The link between drugs and dealer dispute murders is rather more direct.


 
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ajaj - its not illegal to have drugs in your bloodstream.  You have to be caught in possession of measurable amounts to be done for it.

The link between drugs and dealer dispute murders is rather more direct.

True - but thats a product of prohibition.  If there was a regulated market there would be no drug gangs.


 
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ajaj – its not illegal to have drugs in your bloodstream.  You have to be caught in possession of measurable amounts to be done for it.

Exactly. What ajaj says is logical, but not strictly  correct in eyes of the law. So yes, having drugs in your bloodstream means that you have undoubtedly been in possession of them at some which is illegal, but to be charged you need to be caught with them. I'm not sure why there is a difference, but I think there is.

I'm assuming the example of making the journey from London to bristol is actually similar..ie you clearly broke the speed limit but unless someone catches you in the act you can't be charged.


 
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TJ - that's absolutely right and personally I do think that cannabis should be mostly legal. However, cannabis buyers can't just let themselves off the hook and say they're not responsible for the evil in the supply chain as it is now. UK grow houses use stolen power, unsafe working conditions, rightless workers and a gigantic amount of carbon. For the vast vast majority of consumers, it's a luxury that causes real harm.


 
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Tj isn't saying that that's not the case , but as he points out, if it was legal then that wouldn't be an issue.


 
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lol I just got a moderator warning.

Me too ha ha.

I’m at a bit of a loss why some of my posts were okay and one got cut with a warning but I have a mental image of the Mods reading every letter of this thread with sweat pouring from their collective brows wishing we’d got back to arguing about wheel sizes and brakes.


 
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It's shit and I never have and never will need any. I find people who are high incredibly irritating and try very hard to avoid engaging with them in any way.

Life is hard enough without the complications of sourcing an illegal substance from dodgy bastards and finding a way to get it into your system while simultaneously attempting to function on some level and avoiding detection under the influence while doing something important, like driving, working or parenting.

I watched several people close to me slowly whittle away intellect, memory, personality, inspiration and most importantly, motivation.

It's a brilliant tool to **** up completely things that are already difficult enough. Other than that, yeah. Knock yourself out. Society will pick the pieces.


 
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tried it twice.

threw up twice

You'd also been drinking? Not a good mix without practice.

No idea why I got modded for my previous post, but I'm not complaining - it's their house, their rules.

Edit: now i think about it i *might* have promoted drug use - ooops! Sorry!!

FWIW, the single best drug I've ever experienced is adrenaline - mostly riding, but also from snowboarding.


 
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Think quite a lot of people will have a similar opinion to vongassit.


 
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It seems everywhere at the minute, in the last few weeks, on my local Greenway many demographics smoking it , llandegla car park, Leeds urban bike park, called at my local Asda tonight and it stunk near the entrance..

dont think I’d fancy riding my bike stoned..

back in the day it seemed more private, go onto moors middle of nowhere, a social thing, now it seems every runt is smoking it with no regard for the law or other people..

i hate the smell these days, as with all drugs ideally it should be a part of life, a stage you go through and come out of, growing up.. the people I once knew who still smoke it frequently are dead heads if I’m honest.

moderation is key to all life’s pleasures


 
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Nice for a mid ride break to distract from aching legs.

Just don’t mix it with tobacco.


 
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<p>Back on topic, it's been many moons since I last partook but it was good at the time. When I gave it up though it had become more of a habit and I was bored of it. If I had the opportunity and the planets aligned I doubt I'd refuse some these days.</p><p>I remember from starting a lot of the giggles or just going into my own wee world. It was fun and didn't really get in the way of life that much. A few years in and it was less fun as I'd built a tolerance, I quit and then grown up decisions dictated prohibition from that point onwards.</p><p>Stoned folk don't bother me in the slightest, they're a damn sight more bearable than cokeheads, pissheads or pillheads.</p>

<p>Life is hard enough without the complications of sourcing an illegal substance from dodgy bastards and finding a way to get it into your system while simultaneously attempting to function on some level and avoiding detection under the influence while doing something important, like driving, working or parenting.</p>

<p>Is that how you consume legal recreational drugs? </p>


 
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"It’s shit and I never have and never will need any. I find people who are high incredibly irritating and try very hard to avoid engaging with them in any way"

You seem tense?

"I watched several people close to me slowly whittle away intellect, memory, personality, inspiration and most importantly, motivation"

Never thought to have a word with them? Just sat there and watched? Nice.


 
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“I watched several people close to me slowly whittle away intellect, memory, personality, inspiration and most importantly, motivation”

You’ve just accurately described the effects of alcohol on my parents. Only you’ve missed out the physical and psychological abuse aspects along with the almost daily fear and sadness of being a child in that situation. Alcohol is legal because it’s the safe drug kids, yay!


 
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Had a couple of drags on a joint as a student (I sound like a politician) can't say it did much for me, had some resin via a brownie a couple of years back and it just made we want to eat (which is the last thing I need help with). My ex smoked weed regularly but wasn't your typical stoner, she'd just have a joint in the evening to chill out a bit (she was hyper generally though)


 
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If there was a regulated market there would be no drug gangs.

While I lean to decriminalisation for some drugs, the mix of a lack of critical thinking and wilful niavity on the part of some of the pro legalisation posters on this site is a bit "blue sky" sometimes


 
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I spent most of my undergraduate years stoned every day, it served a purpose, I hated Univeristy and it got me through it. Not tried it since and no real interest in it.

Amazed at how prevelant it is now though, most days when I'm cycling to / from work etc I pass people smoking the stuff walking down the street (also smells 10x stronger than it used to be). You wouldn't have been so brazen in the 80s...


 
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BITD I inherited a hydroponics growing kit from a pot-head relative, set it up in my greenhouse and used it to grow tomatos.  The local hydroponics supply shop soon cottoned on that I was the only 'straight' customer they had, everybody else was growing weed.  When you look at the number of hydroponic shops there are (most towns have one) there must be loads of folk growing their own.

Anyway, back to the OP, there used to be a free newspaper given away in hydroponics shops that had loads of advice on the different strains, growing tips, how to imbibe etc. If there's a shop near you could be worth popping in to pick up a copy and whilst you're there, have a look around, there's a massive community of growers out there 🙂


 
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Never taken drugs (other than alcohol) but tempted with CBD oil for pain (following fractured spine).  A lass at work swears by the cheap Holland and Barrett hemp seeds - might be worth a go, before ordering the proper stuff (very expensive).


 
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The local hydroponics supply shop soon cottoned on that I was the only ‘straight’ customer they had, everybody else was growing weed.

They should have asked you to no longer shop there as you were damaging their reputation....


 
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Saxonrider - you could do a lot worse than listen to these...

https://www.acast.com/saywhytodrugs/


 
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Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified

If by "genetically modified" you mean selectively bred, then yes, yes, it is, just like everything you eat or drink with the exception of water.

Did you know, and I only found this out the other day, that Oranges are not a naturally occurring fruit

The orange is a hybrid between pomelo (Citrus maxima) and mandarin (Citrus reticulata).[2][6] The chloroplast genome, and therefore the maternal line, is that of pomelo.[7] The sweet orange has had its full genome sequenced.[2]


 
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I spent most of my undergraduate years stoned every day, it served a purpose, I hated University and it got me through it. Not tried it since and no real interest in it.

I knew a few people who smoked every day, in fact pretty much all day, every day. I remember a few who'd shuffle about at 08:30, moving like an 80 year old until they had their 'first spliff of the day'.

Dependency of any drug at that level is always a bad thing, I don't know if it's a symptom of prohibition or not, but if you were like that before your 'first beer of the day' you'd hope your friends would be begging you to see someone, but it, at the time anyway, seemed pretty normal for a lot of people.

There does seem to be this theory with some people who are really into it that Cannabis is this wonder thing that can solve all the the problems of the world, how it's basically a cure for every illness and the solution to all the worlds problems in one form or other.


 
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They should have asked you to no longer shop there as you were damaging their reputation….

They seemed to be genuinly interested in how the systems worked with different plants, they would typically grow sweet pepper seedlings in their demonstration set-ups and then pass them on to me to bring on in the greenhouse. There seemed to be a mix of clientelle, ranging from the small set-ups for personal use to the industrial set-ups which I imagine just went to big dealers.................


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 10:20 am
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If by “genetically modified” you mean selectively bred, then yes, yes, it is, just like everything you eat or drink with the exception of water.

I read the other day that 6 of the 7 major strains of wheat we now grow didn't exist 50 years ago..

As for water, we now "breed it" with billions of nano-plastic particles added, so definitely different to how it used to be 😉


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 10:28 am
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The stoner sweat smell it etched into my memory from Uni days. It's really not nice, felt like burning my flat mates clothes and bedding as it was all saturated with the smell. Used to quite like the smell of the weed itself but not really any more. It is a shame it has been bred stronger but that is human nature - take something relatively harmless and fun and ruin it.


 
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I tried some a few years ago and I didn’t like it, doesn’t seem to relax you at all any more, it’s more like a stimulant, mind racing a million miles an hour but not really functioning. ‘the buzz’ was just unpleasant to me.

Sounds like you were using a Sativa while expecting an Indica


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 10:34 am
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I haven't really heavily schmoked ever. Friends were a bit more into it and would share it about,
I've got some great memories of cycling over the downs in the middle of summer and then smoking a big fat one on top of some burial mounds and just melting into the landscape for half an hour. Absolutely lovely feeling.
Wandering round the streets on a wet evening getting mashed doesn't really appeal.


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 11:53 am
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Sadly, when people say they've smelt weed around town, I suspect it's more likely to be spice which always (powerfully) smells the same. I remember walking the best bit of a mile across central Manchester 15 years ago and there wasn't a moment when I couldn't smell weed, people pushing buggies on a Saturday afternoon with a spliff on etc. These days it's just spice and that's a completely different ball game. I passed a couple of trendy teenage girls in Liverpool recently who were smoking spice. Blimey that saddened and depressed me even though I maintain very liberal views on the matter. 'Good cop, bad war' is a very good read on this subject. Overall, I'd say alcohol does more damage but no drug has no downside.


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 11:58 am
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I used to smoke weed - a lot. Big group of extended friends were all smokers & looking back, the sheer volumes of if we smoked was absolutely bonkers.

We wern't big drinkers, so it was social thing. Personally I used to prefer the Indica stains, we would sit & chill out, play a bit of Xbox, get the inevitable munchies, listen to music, laugh a hell of a lot and that was life for a few years. We had a full hydro setup for some homegrown which actually went surprisingly well, given we didn't really have a clue what we were doing 🙂

There came a point where I/we wondered what life was like without it, for me it took the 'edge' of a mundane but stressful job, which paid well, but I hated it. There came a point probably 18 or so months before I smoked for the last time I was fed up with wasting weekends absolutely baked on the sofa or in the garden in the sun & decided to buy an MTB. All of a sudden I had something else to do, & slowly the amounts reduced down & I stopped smoking.

Funnily enough I went to Amsterdam a few weeks ago with my other half & whilst we were there, it felt a bit rude not to at least go to a coffee shop and give it a go, she'd never really tried it before so wanted to see what it was like, and well I fancied having a smoke for old times sake.

Firstly, it wasn't the experience I was really looking for, I always associated smoking with being very chilled out; big comfy sofas, etc. All the central places which were 'must do' were like being an extra in a grime video. Full of rude boys, loud house music, flashing lights & people pulling whiteys everywhere. urgh.

Found a little cafe which was much more like I expected. Smoked a joint between us & we were both absolutely battered off it, and it was the weakest on the 'menu'. The tram ride was bonkers back & we were both totally out of it. I've never really felt like that before smoking weed, so it was really odd. maybe it's an indication of things moving on in the last 10 years, but it certainly wasn't enjoyable like it used to be.

Plus I got the fuzzy stoner hangover the next day. I don't miss it one bit.


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 12:19 pm
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This thread is hilarious and alarming in equal measure....

Cannabis will become legallised - it's an industry worth billions of dollars in the US and big money brings changes in politics not ethics or morality.

Is cannabis bad? 

Yes it can be bad, particularly if you're predisposed to mania, psychosis or paranoia. But these people are rare despite what the Daily Mail would have you believe.

It can make you lazy and eat too much too.

Is it as bad as booze? 

Absolutely not - it doesn't cause a fraction of the harm booze does. Some who drinks wine every night will be causing far more damage to their body than someone who vapourises cannabis every day

Are there positive effects?

There are many including pain killing properties, anti-depressant qualities and more just google it.

Is it fun? 

Yes it's really fun and much nicer than being drunk, but you need to be careful not to make it habitual and take breaks regularly or you end up in a rut.

Do you have to smoke strong skunk? 

No there are people out there who sell weaker strains. You can also control the strength of cannabis in an electronic vapouriser. Different cannaboids vapourise at different temperatures, so if you know what you're doing it doesn't matter what you've got you'll be able to get the same effects.

Can you ride a bike on cannabis? 

Have you seen a 50to01 video????!!!!


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 1:10 pm
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Partake off and on. Love a big fat joint before watching a movie or listening to some music, sitting in the great outdoors looking at the view. Never driven stoned or drunk for that matter. Quite hard to source what I would term normal weed, not skunk as I find that too strong. I only smoke in nice calm environments and with a couple of good friends. Probably compare a joint to maybe a couple of gin and tonics. They’re not the same but that’s the best comparison I can give you. Name any product you drink or ingest in any form and there will be a hundred horror stories regarding it somewhere.

Will it be legal in the UK one day? Absolutely. When it will be I have no idea. The only people who don’t want it legal that I know are the preachy hysterical types and those currently making vast sums of money out of it.


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 1:15 pm
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It’s shit and I never have and never will need any. I find people who are high incredibly irritating and try very hard to avoid engaging with them in any way.

So you've never had any yet you know its sh*t........? You're stoned and talking sh*t more like. How can you say that with certainty? Now that is incredibly irritating. If anyone on hear should have a spliff........

Some people can get very annoying on drugs - think of those annoying drunks

Friend now works in drug healthcare after a decade in alcohol related care......alcohol is easily the worse(IHO). But hey, its legal and available on every street corner so its fine, much better to get home and have a glass of wine than a smoke, isn't it.

Was a student for 5 years in the early 90s, tried everything going drug wise as I wanted to know how it felt to be on them. Countless fun experiences, nice experiences, out of this world experiences, never a bad experience. Had everything from brown to weed and everything in between - not a single regret. Worst experiences and feelings were with alcohol.............but its legal so its OK, right?

The brain is  complex and works on many different levels.......certain drugs open certain levels and for me personally every level I found was enjoyable. Your brain needs stimulants to open up areas that are otherwise closed..........oh look, just like alcohol does.

Still do weed daily, nearing 50 years old now with good job, lovely wife (non-weeder) nice  home, 2 daughters in their 20s (who  have known all about my 'habit' since they were old enough to and have no problem with it as they say alcohol is much worse and they both participate in drinking at weekends).

Very rarely I have the powerful stuff (skunk), I couldn't do that daily and have anything to do for rest of day! Look at the powerful stuff as gin/vodka/whisky  compared to the weaker shandy/snowball....a huge difference. Its like when John Snow did that documentary a few years ago that was unbelievably bias - all the none-smokers were given skunk ffs, that's like giving a none-drinker some spirits, not weak lager.

It does annoy me though seeing al the scallies round town openly smoking skunk spliffs (definitely not spice) and it gives all weed smoker a bad name, no need.

Its not for everyone though re menatal health and addictive personalities should stay away.

Legalise it, tax it, whole of society benefits.

Do I drink alcohol?............yes, but certainly not daily

"Tried it twice and threw up twice"...........you were doing it wrong then, far too much (or had had an alcoholic drink prior to trying it)

What am I trying to say? God knows, I'm obviously too stoned! (not really, just gobsmacked by some of the narrow mindedness on here)


 
Posted : 04/12/2018 2:20 pm
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Haven't smoked for years and am pretty glad that's the case.

The thing I do miss though is having a smoke and listening to an epic bit of music, and getting thoroughly lost and immersed in it.


 
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