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Having posted on the Vivaro / Trafic thread earlier and not wanting to hijack, I've seen a Trafic on Autotrader that ticks all the boxes of budget, age, air con etc but it has a tailgate rather than the more usual barn doors.

I only use vans for bikes, dogs and shopping duties so I won't need to fork lift a pallet of something into the back which would be impossible with a tailgate but I'm wondering if anyone has had both and has any preference or any advantages of one over the other ?

Doesn't have to just be a Trafic any opinions on any van will be fine.

Only things I've thought advantages are sheltering from the rain or sun, and the doors won't overhang the road when parked up ( I'm guessing that's why AA and RAC vans have tailgates ) disadvantage actual opening space required ? ( behind van )

Also I'm not reet tall so may have to jump up to pull it down....... 😳


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:15 pm
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My van has barns, I'd prefer a tailgate for a wee bit of cover whilst getting manky kit off post ride, but it's not a biggie tbh.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:17 pm
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my next van will have a tailgate. barn doors are ok, but i'd like more useable space when it's pissing down... that said, i dunno how accessible they are in close parking situations


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:18 pm
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Much easier to put a bike rack on the back


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:18 pm
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Prefer to be inside if it's manky weather. Down side for me is car park access with a tail gate


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:19 pm
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Bikes outside the van? Madness.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:19 pm
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[i]Only things I've thought advantages are sheltering from the rain or sun[/I]

This.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:21 pm
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Barns are to make sure you can use a fork lift, assuming you don't want to do that then tail gate all the way!


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:22 pm
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as above, tailgate = canopy = good for leisure use.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:24 pm
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+1 on the tailgate. Have one on my berlingo.

Means you can sit in the back and get some shade/shelter whilst you change your shoes etc.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:26 pm
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The downside in the shelter etc is every time you open the back its fully open to the wind and rain. Wouldn't say it's as clear cut as one beats the other. Depends really what the rest of the van will be like


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:27 pm
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We've had one with barn doors and now have one with a tailgate. Parking situations where the tailgate is a problem are few and far between. If you reverse up to wall just pulll forward to get your stuff out. Reverse up to another car and I would think you can get closer than with barns.

My own preference is for tailgate, but it's marginal. Same reasons as others above.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:28 pm
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Well this particular one has twin side doors so if worst does happen in a car park at least I can get in either side.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 9:31 pm
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Definitely tailgate over barn doors purely for the rain shelter whilst getting dekitted, its the best feature about my Doblo 😆


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 10:03 pm
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Tailgate! Shelter, loading etc..


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 10:15 pm
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The ones I was discussing all have tailgate. We prefer them for working under.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 10:23 pm
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Not a van but one of the things I love about my Galaxy is the shelter offered by the tailgate. Great for standing under whilst cooking also.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 10:25 pm
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Folks have a caravelle.
Tailgate on that is no bother.
I'm not sure barn doors would be a lot better for tight parking unless you're just trying to squeeze a bag of sarnies in. If you want something big out you must need about the same space.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 10:32 pm
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I have a berlingo and love the tailgate for shelter, even when shopping just pop it open go under with the trolley and put shopping away in the dry.

Just park forwards at the supermarket and you don't have to worry.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 10:39 pm
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Tailgate all the way. So practical.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 11:06 pm
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I'm not sure barn doors would be a lot better for tight parking unless you're just trying to squeeze a bag of sarnies in.

Two advantages of barn doors are exactly that - you can just put something smaller in (or get yourself in and out) if theres not much room behind you

Another is if the back of the van is tightly packed with stuff its easier to close barn doors and also easier to catch anything loose when you open up again (says man who smashed most of his christmas booze opening the tailgate this year)


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 11:10 pm
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you can also open the barn doors without showing the world what's in the van, some of those supermarket stops on the way somewhere in the less than desirable areas etc.
For those sheltering on crap days why not just get inside the van?


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 11:12 pm
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Mike - I prefer to get my proper wet kit off before I get in the van to get dried and fresh clothes on. Then I can get all that kit in a big duffel bag, and the vans reasonably dry inside, so less condensation the next morning.

But I have barn doors, so it's irrelevant really!.


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 11:15 pm
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My leisure van has barn doors and work van has tailgate.
If I'm carrying pallets I wish the tailgate were barndoors, but using fork extensions , or a bit of gentle pushing with the tips gets most things in. (It's a Kombi)
Tailgate definitely an advantage to work under when it's peeing down


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 11:24 pm
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oh and for nice days we just used to pull this out of the back 😉
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Perfect addition, though if I ever get back to owning a van it will have an awning on the side


 
Posted : 07/01/2017 11:27 pm
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I used to carry stuff like kayaks on the roof of my van so barn doors were better for sliding them on and off via the back, but if you aren't carrying stuff on roof then yes tailgate good for weather protection


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 12:53 am
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Not my picture but I do this with the tailgate on my Berlingo too with a Vango pop up tent.

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The tailgate sits just over the tent. Good for camping or changing etc.


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 8:05 am
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Another vote for tail gate.

Had a van with barns it was ok.

Moved to a tailgate and twin sliding side doors- best things ever.

No more having to use the back doors to put shit in just slide open the side door behind driver and no one needs to see what's in the back.

Advantages of being able to get out of wet clothes under shelter without getting the inside minging is brilliant. I agree my next van will have a pull out awning but the tailgates still great for post winter night ride changing


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 10:39 am
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I've read that its possible to change barn doors for a tailgate on the TVPs, but googling just finds links for some who've claimed to have done it with little detail on the actual process.


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 10:51 am
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I have a crew cab van with barn doors, it does me OK.

But if buying a normal van now I'd want a tailgate and side doors. Especially if I was gonna be sleeping in it too.

Wouldn't be a deal breaker though and I have a tarp to hang over the barn doors if i ever need to (I haven't yet).


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 11:52 am
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Often find barn doors give a bit of privacy, to get changed or even have a piss in a bucket.


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 12:00 pm
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Barn doors. You can open one side for getting in/out without opening the whole entrance. Handy when sleeping in it to if you want a view of the stars/sea. I don't get the argument about the tailgate offering shelter when getting changed etc, just get in the van! 🙂


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 12:47 pm
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I don't get the argument about the tailgate offering shelter when getting changed etc, just get in the van!

I can't stand up inside


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 1:11 pm
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And as I said earlier, I dont want the interior manky and wet.


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 1:17 pm
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In 21 years of bike vans/combis (some barn, some tailgate) I much prefer the tailgate for all the reasons mentioned.

The only downside has maybe been where we've parked forward at a crowded race or trail centre. Then slightly nervous of someone with a motor home or bike on roof driving into huge protruding tailgate.


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 1:24 pm
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The only downside has maybe been where we've parked forward at a crowded race or trail centre. Then slightly nervous of someone with a motor home or bike on roof driving into huge protruding tailgate.

That's another thing I've thought of


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 4:35 pm
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I'VW worried about that in the past too!


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 4:38 pm
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I would choose tailgate, the only other downside not mentioned is when you are standing on the kerb/unlevel ground and the tailgate is forehead height!


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 4:49 pm
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Spooky, that won't happen to me.

I'm tiny 😆


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 5:00 pm
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As mentioned above its nice to get out of yer dirty wet clothes under the tailgate before jumping inside and get changed into your nice clean kit.

My next vans gonna have barn doors though it's just dawned on me .....Can't get tailgates in hi tops 🙁 (for good reason I know )


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 5:11 pm
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If you don't have a tailgate then you'll never have the pleasure of wacking your head on the little bit that sticks down 🙂


 
Posted : 08/01/2017 5:14 pm
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You can get them on some hi-tops but probably special order as rare. I'm sure I've seen mid roof Transits with tailgates, I've also seen T5's, but they might have all been low tops with a camper style hi top added.

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Posted : 08/01/2017 7:10 pm

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