[Closed] Syria! why does Bashar Al Assad have to go and do the Syrian people have a say?

You're a very funny man. You manage to combine the intellectual rigor of a steaming pile of horse crap with the self righteous rantings of a religious fanatic. Hard to pull off, but you manage it.

It's simple junkyard I will go slowly, from the beginning the government in Syria have claimed that those they were fighting were terrorists just like in Libya.

The western media and the people who's perceptions they control, all went along with the fact and believed there were no terrorists fighting in Syria, however now there is too much evidence to even try and deny this fact any more. So the story has changed and the terrorists who are not even Syrian but come from lots of different countries, are now portrayed as the good guys.

Good little terrorists who simply went to Syria on a Jihad holiday armed to the teeth just in case. No matter what the terrorists do they are still portrayed by the media as the good guys, helping to free the Syrian people from the oppression of Bashar Al Assad.

I'm not saying the Syrian government are perfect, but a lot of the crimes they are being blamed for were committed by the terrorists and that is a fact!

We is [s]free people who can think for our selves all over the world.[/s]
Disciples of the worlds biggest bullshitter Alex Jones.
You would be [s]the brain washed zombie apocalypse members, walking around with their head up their own arses, which by this point after years of doing so, should be quite comfortable for them! [/s] all the people who are capable of rational thought, and make their own minds up about things and dont rely on being spoon fed bullshit by people like Alex Jones

from the beginning the government in Syria have claimed that those they were fighting were terrorists just like in Libya.

Why is it described as

The uprising, which was inspired by the Arab Spring Revolutions, began as a chain of peaceful protests around the country for democracy and political freedom, which was immediately followed by a government crackdown whereby the Syrian Army was deployed to quell the uprising, and several cities were besieged as a result.[

Of course he is not saying my people wanted democracy but i shot them like dogs in the streets.
it is beyond stupidity to accept his view whilst telling us all we are brainwashed.

You believe what the media are saying if it makes sense or not and do not even question it enough to verify the facts.

What exactly do you call that?

Google BBC caught lying about Syria and see what you find or you can simply believe what ever you feel like!

[quote=kaasea, with fingers in ears] La La La , I'm not listening, La La La , I'm not listening , La La La , I'm not listening, La La La , I'm not listening etc etc.

Mmmmm, good point.

Your winning me over actually.

I refer you to my earlier point

Your attacks are ridicolous you have been given facts about how the conflict started, how he got power and how he has maintained it. Whatever source you choose to use it is not in dispute hence why you dont comment but do this drivel instead.

somewhere a village is missing it's idiot 😯

CaptainFlashheart - Member
Again, I'll ask the question, more in hope of an answer than in expectation....

How exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.

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That was my joke about the Sunshine Band, and thanks, I was quite proud of that.

However, we really need to stop arguing with the crazy person, it doesn't help and contributes to validating the nonsense, further blurring the boundary between real and imagined. Quite sad.

And Kaesae mate, I mean this out of genuine concern, but you need to get out more.

Hels, I did suggest that as well. 😆

I think he took my trolling comment to heart, he's really upped his game this evening

Upped his game? Or lowered his trousers.

Youtube it sheeple!

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Emsz you are quite right the warm human body thing is prolly not a bad idea either !

As I have said and continue to say, the conflict in Syria is being misrepresented. The media is quite simply lying about what is actually happening.

Although I do not support Bashar Al Assad as I have no reason too, I am very much against the hold the media has over the majority of people. I am also against arming, training and equiping terrorists. Or having foreign countries intervening in this fashion to affect regime change.

Here is a question for all the genuis's who think this is a good idea because the TV says so, what do you think will happen if Bashar Al Assad and the current government is toppled?

The so called rebels are worse than the regime, if the regime is so bad and the rebels are worse, how can you even consider handing the country and all of it's weapons stocks over to the rebels/terrorists?

That was my joke about the Sunshine Band, and thanks, I was quite proud of that.

Sorry for forgetting it was you! 🙂

However, I just have to do this, I'm afraid. I blame the beer and curry I've just had.

Again, I'll ask the question, more in hope of an answer than in expectation....
How exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.

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Do you know what the word awareness means captain?

The decision about the fate of Syria is for the Syrian people to make, not a bunch of self important, delusional capitalists who are so arrogant they believe they know what's best for other people.

Considering the state of the UK and the US, it's beyond belief that we should be giving anyone advice let alone demanding change!

I will literally wee myself if Flashy gets an actual answer.

Edit - responding with a question is not an answer

piemonster - Member

I will literally wee myself if Flashy gets an actual answer.

So how many times will that be this week then?

Go on, answer his question. It'll be fun.

Yes, I do, thanks.

So, how do you feel raising awareness on a relatively obscure UK bike forum will make any difference?

The decision about the fate of Syria is for the Syrian people to make

So captain, you think the topic is invalid and not worthy of discussion and that is why you have joined the thread 😆

By STW standards, that seems very sensible to me!

No, I have joined the thread to try and persuade you to stop waffling such waffle on a relatively obscure UK bike forum. Your obsession with posting these loony tunes threads is either superb trolling, or you need to rethink what you're doing. I do sincerely hope it's the former.

If it isn't though, you need to take the advice from the likes of Emsz and Hels. Step in to the real world. Find a nice girl, or boy (Whatever floats your boat) and enjoy life a little. Waffling away on here will not change one tiny thing for "your people" in Syria. Not one thing.

[quote=kaesae ]So captain, you think the topic is invalid and not worthy of discussion and that is why you have joined the thread
That.

103 posts & 31 voices. That's more than any "what tyre" thread I've seen recently, so it's at least keeping someone entertained. If everyone who [i]said[/i] they weren't interested in these threads just ignored them then they'd soon fall off the front page.

Hahahaha! the captain has spoken.

I should take advice from you lot, because you and your way of life is a complete and utter failure!

You're not doing very well at convincing me, so far!

druidh, how many of those 31 were actually engaging in debate? And how many were simply ridiculing the OP?

Kaesae, if my way of life is a failure, I'm happy to stick at being a failure, thanks.

Kael, in your pants again?

You do that cap! I am pushing for change and the shit that is happening in Syria is not on!

Also the shit that is happening here in the UK is not on, through the banking system, the rich and powerful have had it their way for too long.

Where they have led us too as a people is unacceptable, they are utterly incompetent and the political system is a farce.

Libya and now Syria has shown them for what they truly are, heartless parasites!

I am pushing for change

How? I mean, apart from your endless waffling on here, how? What are you [i]actually[/i] doing to bring about this change of yours? Do tell.

crikey - Member

Kael, in your pants again?

Not everyone wears pants crikey! some of us prefer hats for keeping our heads warm!

[quote=CaptainFlashheart ]druidh, how many of those 31 were actually engaging in debate? And how many were simply ridiculing the OP?
Thank you for strengthening my case.

[b]I am pushing for change [/b]and the shit that is happening in Syria is not on!

If that's the case, then the question must surely be......

[b] how is your constant waffling on a Mountainbike Forum ever going to achieve anything ? [/b]

Or.

To put it another way

[quote=CFH].....How exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.

Kaesae, if you're so damned keen on affecting change in someone else's country, why the hell don't you have courage of your convictions and actually go there and get stuck in and fight for it.
But you won't, because you don't have the balls; you'd rather sit in your nice, comfortable room, in front of the computer that the western society you profess to despise enabled you to buy, using web technology created by a Brit, yet another member of that same western society, and rant to a bunch of mountain bikers.
Yes, you are indeed an effective vehicle for change in a beleaguered foreign country. 🙄

@Kael

Red Cross?

If your convictions are honest they will appreciate all the help they can get.

The problem you have here is that by refusing to either talk about what your doing, or hiding the fact that you are just trying to effect change on STW. Is that you come across as a [u]fraud[/u], and nobody that doesn't already care is going to listen to you. And your frequent ill judged statements that nobody on STW cares also does little for your case as it is based on ignorance and little else.

An obvious and almost none effort means for you to help would be to support Medicines Sans Frontiers via you ebay business, details here;

http://www.msf.org.uk/ebay.aspx

Although of course, my money is still on superior trolling

So in response to the initial questions

why does Bashar Al Assad have to go?
And do the Syrian people get a say in it, we have the above gibberish!

If those answers proposed as rational, measured, responses to these simple questions, are anything to go by, then I would suggest that I am not the one that needs help.

I would also suggest that there is a great sickness, a plague affecting the minds and spirits of many people these days.

Compassion, understanding, open mindedness, logic / reason, truth and many other characteristics we as individuals require to have an adaptive, cohesive, successful way of life. Are sadly lacking in an awful lot of people these day.

If this is the mentality of the majority of our people, is is any wonder our way of life is such a failure and discriminates against or exploits so many people! it's not that people are failures, it's that there is no room for success in a culture who's primary or principal demand is that we embrace useless idiocy.

There was a time that petty, childish, completely revolting attitudes and behavior would have drawn me into an argument, no more though!

There is a great deal to be done and those of us that do care about the future of all the good people in the world, must wake up to why things are the way they are and do all that we can to effect change!

Not only within ourselves, but also in the culture and wider world we live in!

Spelling and grammar mistakes, largely incoherent waffle-the only him missing is random capitalisation and you'd have a fine rant there kaesae

Just for you kaesea...

It's a joke ok? don't get cross 😆

There was a time that petty, childish, completely revolting attitudes and behavior would have drawn me into an argument, no more though!

There is a great deal to be done and those of us that do care about the future of all the good people in the world, must wake up to why things are the way they are and do all that we can to effect change!

Not only within ourselves, but also in the culture and wider world we live in!

Out there, somewhere, is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen, so that you can breathe. I think you owe it an apology!
House

http://www.edinburghstw.org.uk/

You don't even have to leave Edinburgh

On a seperate note, do you think Khyber Kasae is mistaking STW(bicycle forum) for STW (dedicated to stopping bad things happen)

And I really love how making genuine suggestions as to how to do something worthwhile is dismissed. Dismissed with really very poor trolling, you've let yourself down there Mr. Please try harder.

Kaesae, Last three posts of yours I've read can be summarised like this - Iran's a nice place with a reasonable regime being bullied by the west with associated anti-semmitic garbage included.

911 was a fake set up by the jews and/or the CIA and was nothing to do with islamic extremism

and now we have Bashar Al Aassad's a nice bloke why does he have to go.... the west are sponsoring terrorists in Syria. He's killing people in the country he dictates to in an attempt to hang on to power if you hadn't noticed.

What's your view of the Taliban shooting a little girl in the head because she wanted an education? Unless I missed it you've been pretty quiet on that one.....

I can't be arsed watching that. Could you do us a summary? Would it involve, by any remote chance, Assad smiling nicely and claiming that his murderous regime is simply misunderstood? The confusion being fuelled by a corrupt western media? And he hasn't actually been bombing civilian areas, but actually saving ickle fwuffy kittens?

emsz - Member

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BWBn26bX0

Just for you kaesea...

It's a joke ok? don't get cross

best post on this Thread!

- [url= http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/03/leaked-emails-reveal-assads-love-lmfao-and-right-said-fred/49901/ ]Relevant[/url].

Hmm RT television, the russian state funded TV station.... thought you said the media could not be trusted?.....

ah, everyone's favourite slacktivist. Done anything practical yet Kaesae?[img] [/img]

marcus are you cynically suggesting that the Russian government, presently making a fortune selling Assad arms, would use its tame TV station to give a sympathetic interview for him to put accross his opinion unchallenged?

Where's Phillip Scholfield when you need him eh? 😉

ah, everyone's favourite slacktivist. Done anything practical yet Kaesae?

C'mon now, Clubber. He has posted a youtube video, admittedly he didn't film it, research it, produce it, encode it, verify it or do anything of any tangible benefit to anyone, but you wouldn't want to be spoon fed, right?

If he did anything more than that, wouldn't that make him complicit in the evil western global media conspiracy, he so despises?

C'mon now, Clubber. He has posted a youtube video, admittedly he didn't film it, research it, produce it, encode it, verify it or do anything of any tangible benefit to anyone, but you wouldn't want to be spooned, right?

What a difference a space and a F makes....

What a difference a F makes....

...and a space.

marcus7 - Member
Hmm RT television, the russian state funded TV station.... thought you said the media could not be trusted?.....

I'm sure he'll be along with a PressTV video to corroborate the RT video shortly.

oh FFS!

Meanwhile....

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*Whistles nonchalantly*

ah, everyone's favourite slacktivist. Done anything practical yet Kaesae?

So to recap the extremists/terrorists are in Syria to help free the people, once Assad is gone they will go back to simply being covert forces for Qatar, Saudi Arabia and America in that area 😆

Qatar, Saudi Arabia and America are no longer interested in regime change, they are now interested in helping human beings claim their freedom from a dictator, Saudi psychopath central Arabia is now interested in human rights 😆

America has been responsible for tens of millions of deaths to civilians all over the world since the end of WW2, using a military that is one of the best trained most heavily armed and has some of the most advanced weapons in the world. We should just forget about that because it doesn't fit with the picture the corporate media have very kindly painted for the people's of the west.

A picture that doesn't fit with witnesses on the ground or the vast majority of sources, Bashar Al Assad is not blowing up his own security forces and loyal civilians with car bombs and suicide bombers. He's not assassinating his own government or his own friends, nor is he murdering any Syrian who speaks out in support of the government.

We should also forget or over look the fact that America has been involved in regime change for years and see's it as standard policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions

Boots on the ground will cost trillions, proxy forces a couple of billion, if you think the the US and it's regional allies are not involved in regime change any more, that they have stopped trying to rule the world and change the global political situation, how smart does that make you?

thanks for putting us all in the picture Kael, where would we be without your insights ?

Let me ask this question again, why are terrorists who are funded, trained and equiped by Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the US fighting in Syria?

What exactly do the terrorists hope to get and who is controlling them? also why is it that you seem to think the people of Syria want to be under the control of foreign terrorists, the fact that the opposition have no cohesion and could not dream of running a country, should tell you everything you need to know about the situation.

However you have been told what to believe about this situation and regardless of how little sense it makes, you do not have the strength of character or depth of perception to think for yourselves.

Look at the state of the planet and understand that your leaders are fools, what does it say about you who are willing to follow these heartless parasites and do you honestly still believe that they will sort all of our shit out?

I will leave you lot to your fate, one that through your own complacency you truly deserve!

...annnnnd,

Flounce.

I will leave you lot to your fate

Please, please do. I beg you.

Kael-- your patronising is wearing thin,maybe try a different tack, as it does not appear to be having much effect on the world situation.

what does it say about you who are willing to follow these heartless parasites and do you honestly still believe that they will sort all of our shit out?

What are you [b][i]actually doing about it then?[/i][/b]

I mean, [i]apart from [/i], waffling on about it on a relatively obscure bike forum?

Do tell.

have heard its going to kick off big stylee in Sark, something to do with a handcart ....

What flash said

Stop lecturing me about what i should be doing and **** off and do it yourself - its a win win as most of the internet is blocked by your peace loving mate- have you checked out his birthday ...just saying like

Damn, hadn't seen anything of you on here for ages, and I honestly believed you might, [i]possibly[/i], have taken notice of my criticism and actually got your sorry ass onto an aircraft and gone out to Syria to actually do something; y'know, courage of your convictions, and all that. But no, you're still sat on said sorry ass, lecturing everyone else in your usual patronising, condescending manner. What's that quotation, something about sound and fury, signifying nothing?
Kaesae, you are a textbook keyboard warrior, happy to sit in your nice, comfortable, middle-class home, ranting at others for doing nothing about a situation that is no business of theirs whatsoever, but you're too bloody chickenshit to go and do something yourself.
I despise people like you, as far as I'm concerned, you are utterly worthless, especially compared to a fourteen year-old girl, shot in the head by the Taliban for standing up for her right to be educated.
Now, please, do all of us a favour and piss off.
Thank you.
...and breathe.

What CZ said.

What rogg said

what everybody says

what rudebwoy just said

The **** is back.

What pie monster just said. And Allah. Probably.

Hey kaesae! Seeing as you are not going to find out the answer to world conflict, why don't you instead tell us where you got those frames from? You have ignored the question at least 30 times.

I think I'm going to chance my forum name to ThreadKiller. Every time I ask Kaesae about this he disappears!

These women have something they would like to say.

Franksinatra, if you would like to discuss it, rather than trying to act like you actually have balls, emails in my profile give me your address I'll drive over, you still living at the borders?

Kaesae, if you would like to [s]discuss[/s] do something about it, rather than trying to act like you actually have balls

So, apart from waffling about it on a relatively obscure bike forum, what have you actually done about it all? Do tell....

And while your at it

franksinatra - Member
Hey kaesae! Seeing as you are not going to find out the answer to world conflict, why don't you instead tell us where you got those frames from? You have ignored the question at least 30 times.

Yes, that too.

Do tell.....