[Closed] Syria! why does Bashar Al Assad have to go and do the Syrian people have a say?

I have no useful contribution to make.

unmolested course of action

Not following the J Saville school of political intervention, then?

INCOMING

People sticking question marks at the end of long rambling sentences to dress their own w**nking off as a question boils my piss.

Yes, he probably should go. However, there are other possible courses of action. What'd you reckon? Assad sets up a government of national unity and invites JLS to tour?

However I do have to question this proposal, surely the only fair and natural or unmolested course of action, is to allow there to be elections in Syria so that the Syrian people can decide?

And if Bashar doesn't wish this to happen, how do you propose to implement your rhetorical question?

is to allow there to be elections in Syria so that the Syrian people can decide?

well seeing as the last election was described as 'bordering on ludicrous' by international observers

and were only held after the start of the uprising id say that they arent up to much anyway

Perhaps, but if the focus internationally is on Assad going, does this not tell us that the international / western corporate media and governments want regime change?

It's no secret to most of the world at this point that the majority of fighters are terrorists backed by western powers and their allies in the region.

If we cannot have elections then how about sending in a peace keeping force, this has to be a better strategy than supporting and arming terrorists?

It's a total clusterf*ck over there. The terrorists bombing the public to fuel their cause. Nations arming different groups who have no real plan or end goal. Turkey should get involved and wipeout one of the sides to have done with it.

shut up troll

getting boring now.

Turkey is already involved, they are sheltering, training and arming/equiping the terrorists.

Yes, he probably should go. However, there are other possible courses of action. What'd you reckon? Assad sets up a government of national unity and invites JLS to tour?

Rather than relying on misinformed, tendentious argument. I reckon we should send someone from the forum over there so that they can send back unbiased eyewitness reports of the situation. Y'know. Proper 'research'

Now. [i]Who[/i] should we nominate......?

JFK would have sent the nukes over.....like he did in cuba , 1963-- against Fidel castro...

Now. Who should we nominate......?

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At the end of the day it's only innocent men, women and children being, brutalized, raped, assaulted, tortured and killed. Why have a heart and care when it's so much easier to simply focus on Assad!

Assad, Assad, Assad, it's only about Assad. Focus on the evil dictator who doesn't have any support!

If Assad didn't have any support he would already be gone, you don't have to be a genius to know that.

What if we listen to the Turkish people, they are after all right next door and heavily involved. Tens of thousands of them held a rally, in support of our brothers and sisters in Syria.

I keep forgetting that you don't actually know what's going on, that for the majority of the people in the west the media in has such a hold on your minds, that you simply believe them no matter how dumb what they're reporting is.

The US and other western countries want regime change, so they have paid thousands of terrorist fighters to go into Syria and cause chaos. Do you honestly think the US government give a **** about human rights? how quickly we forget guantanamo!

Do you honestly believe that all of the foreign countries and states that are handing over hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars are doing so because they care about the Syrian people?

They don't even give a shit about their own people, take Saudi Arabia for example!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/saudi-arabia-ramps-clampdown-human-rights-activists-2012-06-18

http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-saudi-arabia

To claim that the US and these other countries in the region affected, are acting on behalf of the Syrian people in response to human rights violations and because they care!

Is to ignore the US and it's history of brutality, oppression and constant military attacks on sovereign nations. To claim that these countries that are involved in the attempted regime change in Syria are doing so because they care about Syria and it's people, is quite obviously absurd.

The evil, power hungry despots who rule capitalist countries, do not even care about their own people, let alone the people of Syria, if they are paying out hundreds of millions, billions of dollars it is because they want something.

What they want is regime change, unlike Libya I do not think they will achieve it this time, at least for the sake of the people of Syria and that region I hope not!

Evil power hungry despots? David Cameron is many things, an evil power hungry despot? No, that implies he is in some sort of control. Get a grip, go and ride a bike and cheer up and thank f*** your lucky enough not to be in Syria as they are truly suffering.

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www.binnerstshirts.com

Back from your latest Ban then ?

[sarcasm] Hooray ! [/sarcasm]

I keep forgetting that you don't actually know what's going on, that for the majority of the people in the west the media in has such a hold on your minds, that you simply believe them no matter how dumb what they're reporting is.

Yes yes, we get it.

We are all sheep, and you know the "truth"

🙄

We are all sheep, and you know the "truth"

You can't spell truth without rut. Something Kaesea seems to be stuck in...

surely the only fair and natural or unmolested course of action, is to allow there to be elections in Syria so that the Syrian people can decide?

this has to be a better strategy than supporting and arming terrorists?

At the end of the day it's only innocent men, women and children being, brutalized, raped, assaulted, tortured and killed. Why have a heart and care when it's so much easier to simply focus on Assad!

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I keep forgetting that you don't actually know what's going on

Should I use Youtube more for impartial information?
I know the elected representatives who speak for the entire nation voted for something and some people objected - what is your point?

that for the majority of the people in the west the media in has such a hold on your minds, that you simply believe them no matter how dumb what they're reporting is.

Do you honestly believe that all of the foreign countries and states that are handing over hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars are doing so because they care about the Syrian people?

They don't even give a shit about their own people, take Saudi Arabia for example!

To claim that the US and these other countries in the region affected, are acting on behalf of the Syrian people in response to human rights violations and because they care!

Is to ignore the US and it's history of brutality, oppression and constant military attacks on sovereign nations. To claim that these countries that are involved in the attempted regime change in Syria are doing so because they care about Syria and it's people, is quite obviously absurd.

What they want is regime change, unlike Libya I do not think they will achieve it this time, at least for the sake of the people of Syria and that region I hope not!

The Syrian Uprising (Later known as the Syrian civil war) is an ongoing internal conflict between the Syrian army and the Free Syrian Army. [b]The uprising, which was inspired by the Arab Spring Revolutions, began as a chain of peaceful protests around the country for democracy and political freedom, which was immediately followed by a government crackdown whereby the Syrian Army was deployed to quell the uprising, and several cities were besieged as a result.[/b][84][85] According to witnesses, soldiers who refused to open fire on civilians were summarily executed by the Syrian Army.[86] The Syrian government denied reports of defections, and blamed armed groups for causing trouble.[87] In July 2011, army defectors near the Turkish-Syrian border declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units (with civilian volunteers joining their ranks soon afterwards), which began an insurgency campaign against the Syrian government starting in September 2011. Since September 2011, the FSA has largely focused on a decentralized command-and-control structure whereby fighting units are organized and controlled on the small and local level. The uprising, which began peacefully, has turned into a sectarian civil war, though neither faction in the conflict has described sectarianism as playing a major role. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites

I am not sure why you think Assad is not imposing his will by force and ignoring legitimate cries for democracy.
Whatever your views of the wests motives it clear what Assads motivation is and it is neither democracy nor what his people want.
This is a science fact and I am off to Youtube to prove it after I form a research group who is with me? You have nothing to loose but your time

As someone said on another of the nutty-tin-foil threads (and I apologise for not remembering who!)....

Kaesea, you were better when you were still with the Sunshine Band.

*edit - Junky, you're taking teh interwebz too seriously again! 😉

It is the teacher in me and wanting to help the needy

I just cant help myself even though it is futile 😳

I think I may flounce just to show how important this is 😉

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Shouldn't your question be, why are all these muslim/arab types killing and blowing each other up on a regular basis? Just a thought (oh and don't say its the Mericans ffs)

Kaesae, if you care so much, how about you put your money where your mouth is, and take a trip into Syria and ask the people there what the facts are.
At least we'll be shot of you and your irrational rantings for a while.
Or you could follow Andy Carvin, (@acarvin), and the various links that he has, a great many people involved out there Tweet about the real problems that the people have.
But I guess you'd probably think they're just mouth-pieces of the western powers or some such rubbish, I don't think you are capable of believing what anybody says, you think the entire bloody universe is a conspiracy!

Kaesea, seriously my love, get a thing going with a person that has whatever bits that turn your dials.

Edited for Capt politicallycorrectheart.

better?

Kaesea, seriously my love, get a girlfriend.

I can see the advert now:

WLTM non-government puppet for long rants on the internet, suspicious dinners and trips to the cinema to watch Alex Jones documentaries. Must have own tinfoil hat.

Ha...STWenders strikes again.

Do you ever wonder whether some people on this forum are on some kind of official government or police list? GCHQ must watch this forum with interest.

but be careful she is not a honey trap.

Kaesea, seriously my love, get a girlfriend.

What if he's dancing at the other end of the ballroom, eh?

😉

I rather think that the ballroom ceiling is more likely.

Jamie - that's classic. Just a thought, is Kaesea George Galloway's alias? The choice of topics, writing style and brass neck are making me think that way.

I rather think that the ballroom ceiling is more likely.

Are you saying that he's Lionel Richie?
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That's the beauty of the internet - no one suspects that you are Lionel Richie.

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Well Hora is certainly available since I believe he has left Egypt.

Or at least he is no longer in de Nile....

sorry

Brilliant HE'S BACK

To enlighten us morally bankrupt westerners, ignorant to the horrors of the world. Because we are all too dumb to think for ourselves!!

Yes, that's right he is our saviour and what's he going to...

[b]NOTHING[/b]

Other than witter and fret on a mountain bike forum

Other than witter and fret on a mountain bike forum

Someone has to do the Youtube research.

Ha ha, yes. Sorry I wasn't counting "research"

It was more the action taken with the "evidence" from the "research" I'm concerned with.

He educates the sheep and tries to sweep the disease of corporate western expansionist capitalist imperialist terrorism from our eyes using carefully researched YouTube pieces to show us the truth

How could he possibly do more?

Junky, I'm sure you meant to include "krypto-fascist" in there as well. HTH.

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No matter what the west does, the western peoples will always see themselves as good people, bringing freedom, love and peace to the world 😆

Ask the rest of the world, what they think of the peoples of the capitalist corporate west, what do you think they will say?

Ask the rest of the world, what they think of the peoples of the capitalist corporate west, what do you think they will say?

Who cares?
Show me an example of a "leading light" which we could follow. The East is obviously not going to be a good example. Who?

The only problem I can see is I don't speak Syrian? Could you parachute me in with a translator? Do I get Bashir's palaces?

Give me a week or so to sort my beard out....

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Ask the rest of the world, what they think of the peoples of the capitalist corporate west, what do you think they will say?

So we ask them, and whatever they say is correct right ?

Ask the rest of this forum what they think of your endless waffle, What do you think they will say ?

And whatever they say must be correct ..... right ?

If [b]we[/b] cannot have elections then how about sending in a peace keeping force, this has to be a better strategy than supporting and arming terrorists?

And whatever they say must be correct ..... right ?

FFS neal will you pay attention

IT WILL ONLY BE REAL ONCE IT IS ON YOUTUBE

Think its time to watch AlJazeera, Russian News and something from China to see bigger picture. Kesae is a bit extreme in some discussions but its entertaining to read some mocking about.

An interesting question comes to mind from this thread.

Has anyone ever caught their dogs looking at pictures of cats on the internet ?

Ok, I will add a bit of mine...

What would happen if Russians supported Welsh and Scots to overthrow British government, and do so with Hollywood style violence? To see through their interests, while all Asia, Middle East and other continents feed on bull shaft media etc.

Wow I am good apprentice of kesae.

When you 'Ask the rest of the World' do you mean all six billion or whatever of them, 'cos that might take a while. Perhaps we could just ask you, and you could answer objectively on their behalf?

We need a fair and impartial solution to the problem, regime change by arming terrorists is a bad idea!

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107114698

Even those who oppose Bashar are against what is happening and everyone knows that there are large numbers of terrorists operating in Syria. The news has been reporting it for months, are you saying the terrorists are in Syria to help out? Al Qaeda holiday tours maybe 😯

From the very start the Syrian government have made it clear that there were and are large numbers of terrorists involved in this, just like Libya.

Giving terrorists state of the art weapons including shoulder mounted surface to air missiles and training them in assassination and gorilla warfare techniques is a bad idea.

Don't worry about any of that though, just remember this BASHAR MUST GO. BASHAR, BASHAR, BASHAR 😯

We know the truth, the god called TV has spoken to us!

and how exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.

Gee Kaesae, thanks for your wondrous insights yet again

Good of you to link to an Iranian website, as the world knows the free press in Iran is the most unrestricted in the world

Oh, no hang on...

In Iran (175th), hounding and humiliating journalists has been part of officialdom’s political culture for years. The regime feeds on persecution of the media.

http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html

You could of course try some of the following for your "research" and perhaps even... dare I say it.. do something worthwhile
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/subsection/0,,884056,00.html

Saudi Arabia had mass rallies for democracy and change much larger than Syria, the Saudi government put those down ruthlessly. The same goes for Bahrain, where protesting is illegal.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&gs_nf=3&cp=12&gs_id=6a&xhr=t&q=bahrain+protests&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=bahrain+prot&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=8452a943ad72eb32&bpcl=35466521&biw=1920&bih=918

and Qatar.

These however have been completely over looked by the media, what about human rights for these people? the simple fact is what we are seeing is the newest form of WAR mongering.

Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar the US and all the other outside political influences involved, do not care about the Syrian people.

What happened in Libya and what is happening in Syria is simply regime change!

Again, I'll ask the question, more in hope of an answer than in expectation....

How exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.

Musical interlude

Kael-- get your little ass out of your chair-- and go meet with a like minded group, there are a number around the country, face to face not keyboard bollox, its hard going but you might feel a bit better and less frustrated.

I guess it explains why it's so quite in UK (terrorist alerts). Most of them are well fed and given special tasks elsewhere, that's why no more BS in UK. Clever politicians n all that.

Saudi Arabia had mass rallies for democracy and change much larger than Syria, the Saudi government put those down ruthlessly. The same goes for Bahrain, where protesting is illegal.

These however have been completely over looked by the media, what about human rights for these people? the simple fact is what we are seeing is the newest form of WAR mongering.

kaesae - just to summarise for you. Its all fairly simple....

Regimes that we sell arms too = good guys [b]YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!![/b]

Regimes the Russians sell arms too = bad guys [b]BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!![/b]

My honest reaction to seeing this thread today was "Ya Dancer!" needed my thursday lunchtime brightening up.

Kaesae

From the very start [b]the Syrian government have made it clear[/b] that there were and are large numbers of terrorists involved in this, just like Libya.

Wow! and you think we are fools for beleiving the independant media...

this thread needs a...
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I have to admit, I'm a little bit disappointed by The K meisters trolling on this thread. Not up to his usual standards IMHO.

His ability to ignore repeated simple and direct questions however, remains joyously undiminished.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, DUMB DUMB, DUUMMBB!

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/20/special-report-investigates-timeline-of-terror-in-benghazi/

Same organized groups who fought in Libya are now in Syria, the Muslim brotherhood. Just a coincidence?

Aaaaaaaaaaah - the last bastion of free speech, and fiercely independent non-bias journalism... Fox 'News'

Its not really surprising though, is it? All Muslims are the same anyway aren't they? Angry, shouty, sometimes explodey, beardy blokes? And women who think its a halloween party all year round, and who've come as a ghost

kaesae - Member

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, DUMB DUMB, DUUMMBB!

gorilla warfare techniques

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foxnewsinsider

Because nothing says anti-media like News Corp.

Come on kaesae if you're going to troll at least be moderately consistent.

As already stated, do try to keep up at the back!

Every source presented should then be investigated to see if the information can be verified.

If Bashar has no support how do you explain this?

Having spent hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars it must really suck when all that you've accomplished is to make the support for Bashar so much stronger globally.

Hahahaha and HA!

[quote=keasae] As already stated,[b] do try to keep up at the back![/b]

I do believe the CFH has asked you a question (twice) and yet no answer yet for some reason.

"Do try to keep up at the back" 🙄

As for the treatment of the people who live in the area's captured by terrorists.

Here's the sanitized version via algazeera

Open you eyes and you shall see!

Same organized groups who fought in Libya are now in Syria, the Muslim brotherhood. Just a coincidence?

the Muslim Brotherhood", transliterated: al-?i?w?n al-muslim?n) is the Arab world's most influential[1] and one of the largest Islamic movements,[2] and is the largest political opposition organization in many Arab states

yes who would have thought the largest opposition group in those two countries were involved in the opposition - it sure is a conspiracy.

Muslim Brotherhood in Syria was founded in the 1930s (according to lexicorient.com) or in 1945, a year before independence from France, (according to journalist Robin Wright (author)). In the first decade or so of independence it was part of the legal opposition, and in the 1961 parliamentary elections it won ten seats (5.8% of the house). [b]But after the 1963 coup that brought the Baath Party to power it was banned.[/b][62] It played a major role in the mainly Sunni-based movement that opposed the secularist, pan-Arabist Baath party. This conflict developed into an armed struggle that continued until culminating in the Hama uprising of 1982, when the rebellion was crushed by the military.[63]

Membership in the Syrian Brotherhood became a capital offence in Syria in 1980 (under Emergency Law 49, which was revoked in 2011), but the headquarters of the MB-linked Palestinian group, Hamas, is located in the Syria's capital Damascus, where it is given Syrian government support. This is seen by some as an example of the lack of international centralisation or even coordination of the MB.[64]

The brotherhood is said to have "resurrected itself" and become "dominant group" in the opposition during the Syrian civil war against the Assad regime according to the Washington Post newspaper

If Bashar has no support how do you explain this?

Could you at least explain why he has a legitimate right to rule and why you oppose democracy there and support him and his regime?

....frankly even for you it is unfathomable - you wish to defend his right to continue oppressing his people whilst suggesting we are all DUMB

This quite sums up this thread brilliantly !

Kaesae, Even by your own dire standards, this thread really does show you to be a complete muppet.

Try joined up thinking, it might help.

Isn't it illegal to keep flogging a dead horse?

Actually junkyard I would say that is your method, to only see what you want to see.

The majority of those fighting in Syria against the government are terrorists from other countries on a jihad, as has been stated since the beginning of the conflict by the government.

Which was of course denied by the western corporate capitalist media at first, however since the evidence for the terrorists being there is now irrefutable it has been taken up by the media.

First there were no terrorists, then it was OK to have terrorists groups because they were fighting against Bashar.

You believe what ever the media tells you too believe, regardless of the facts.

Regardless of the car bombs, regardless of the massacres, regardless of the Syrian people rallying in support of Bashar al Assad in groups numbering over 1 million people. Regardless of the constant aggression from the government of Turkey, who have been arming, training and shielding the terrorist groups.

The entire world knows what is happening in Syria, but not the brain washed zombie apocalypse that makes up the west, you still haven't woken up to the fact that the same scum bags that own the oil companies and the arms companies as well as the banks and most of the global corporations also own the media.

Wake up! this was an attempt at regime change that has more likely than not failed.

It's just a pity that the world woke up too late to save Libya!

So according to Kaesea, (who seems to live in Scotland)

Syria is [b]"WE"[/b]

And

The West is [b]"YOU"[/B]

You certainly are one seriously confused fella 😐

We is free people who can think for our selves all over the world.

You would be the brain washed zombie apocalypse members, walking around with their head up their own arses, which by this point after years of doing so, should be quite comfortable for them!

Actually junkyard I would say that is your method, to only see what you want to see.

The majority of those fighting in Syria against the government are terrorists, as has been stated since the beginning of the conflict by the government.

You believe what ever the media tells you too believe, regardless of the facts.

Again I hope you are trolling because if not your powers of analysis are such that you seem to have little grip on reality and filter everything through some hatred of the west - for sure it does some terrible things but if you think Assad is not then frankly you need help
there are a few questions left for you to answer whilst using pejorative language like terrorism and using the oppressive ruler as your source Its quite tragic and I am leaving these as i do think you seem to have some "issues"
I wish you well with them