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We are having our kitchen renovated and a new kitchen fitted. The builder has just phoned to tell me that on removing the wall units he found they were hiding a seriously skee-wiff wall. It was so bad the units had been 'customised' to fit. Then on removing the old plaster with a view to rectifying this he has found the brickwork in a terrible, and probably unsafe condition.
Plus I have to figure out how to get a 95kg oven up 40 stairs.
Make me feel better!
£170 for a days rental. Maybe the delivery company have one they can bring with them?
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I nearly forgot to water the newly turfed lawn last night. I managed to get he sprinkler out just in time as it started raining. I nearly got soaked!
DIY woe? Try being forced to put up shelves by your wife and then putting a screw through the central heating pipe. Twice.
She still won't let me forget it and has barred me from house-based DIY since.
So it's not all bad.
Our first house - Removed wall paper in bedroom to find a massive hole (about 1ftx1ft and about 4 inches deep) in the wall patched up with newspaper and paste. That was a fun surprise.
Have my suspicions the extension is mostly held together with luck and string.
95kg oven? Two or three strongish blokes shouldn't have a problem with that unless it's particularly narrow or tight.
Paging bearnecessities!
£170 for a days rental. Maybe the delivery company have one they can bring with them?
I reckon a number of burly folk will be considerably cheaper
'Customising'* the side of a built-in dishwasher to accommodate the overlapping edge of a sink and its waste.
This action was required because I gave the worktop firm the wrong measurements for the position of the sink. Sink ended up more central to the window, though, so a triumph in my eyes!
In the same kitchen (and the same worktop fitting) I gouged a couple of inches-deep strip out of a wall to keep the worktop flush to the wall rather than cut the worktop itself.
I like to think I've got more sensible with age.
*Removing a large chunk of the metal case and some struts with a jigsaw. Safety first!
When we moved into our first flat, the previous owners had fitted a 2nd hand kitchen in there just for show, the tops of the cabinets were screwed straight to wall through the chipboard rear and the bottom was secured by metal L- shaped shelving brackets, i could pull the units off the wall using my thumb and finger.
We then tried to remove the tiles to find that they had used No More Nails instead of tiling adhesive so great chunks of the wall came away as you chipped them off.
They had an electric over, but the old gas pipe in hadn't been capped off correctly and finally on adding some electric sockets my father in law drilled straight through the kitchen wall into the hall nicking my arm!
And that was just the kitchen..
😀
Most recently, I've discovered the kitchen extension is so shonky, it needs to be demolished & rebuilt.
It's not at the top of my list, right now.
First house I bought, woke to water dripping on my face during a heavy storm. Went into the attic to discover lots of plastic sheets and buckets. Rather than fix the leaking chimney the previous owners used said buckets to catch water, which 'worked' until a heavy downpour caused them to overflow...
I reckon a number of burly folk will be considerably cheaper
Rather OT but to put that into perspective............... 2 ambulance staff need to lift that sort of weight and more on a regular basis! And they wonder why so many staff retire early with bad backs!
£170??? No danger. Current plan is manpower and lifting straps.
This thread is already having the desired effect. Keep going!
helped a friend remove a brick wall above a former doorway into his daughters' bedrooms. it was held up with a piece of weakened 2x2....
2003, I was renovating one of the spare bedrooms. Had spent weeks getting the room complete, including renovation of an antique nursing chair I had had in storage for years.
Room and chair complete, all that was left was to install the new ceiling chandelier - up in the roof, boarding gave way and i fell through the ceiling, not only catching forearm on nail and tearing a 4 inch hole in my arm on the way through but falling directly on top of the recently renovated nursing chair and smashing it to pieces.
Shouldn't laugh but... Hope you were ok...
Spent a year renovating our cottage to an impecible finish. Finished just in time for xmas to invite both parents and her grandparents for xmas dinner and the grand unveiling. Had a few days spare befiore so went to see a mate in brum. SPent a couple of days getting tanked them came home at 9pm on xmas eve. After three days binging and a long drive wasn't feeling my best so when orderd/gently requested to put up door curtain rail as the final coup de gras on our immacualte new home I may have been somewhat ungracious. I then, in a fit of pique, forgot to take the due care and attention and stuck the drill through the light cable in the front room. Cue knocking off (a little bit of)plaster, lifting carpets and floor boards moving furniture etc to get new spur in. 3am finish. Not exactly Mr Popular.
We moved into our current place 4 years ago..
Within the first week one of the patio doors had fallen out, and a 6' high concrete wall in the garden collapsed as I lent against it.
The wiring was hideous, additional sockets with no grounding and bare live wires in the loft.
The garden was nothing more than an overgrown jungle, with a huge hawthorn bush almost 6' deep in places.
Yeah sorry LHS I laughed too. 😳
Not me, a friend (seriously), had decorated a bedroom in anticipation of the arrival of a new child. Almost finished, him and his wife were getting ready to go out for the evening, when he noticed a loose varnished floor board in the room. Quick repair he thought, whacked a nail in and straight through the central heating pipe. Water pouring out everwhere, he called a plumber mate who suggested as a temp repair, screw a screw into the hole. This worked. However he then heard a shout from his misses that there was water pouring from the light switch downstairs, so he ran down, and flicked the light on, queue big bang and massive electric shock for him.
Soaked and electrocuted within 15 mins of each other.
Dug 42mtrs of foundations in the rainiest week i have ever known in solid clay, discovered three land drains which had to be rerouted and had to spend a fortune on 18mm ply to shore up the sides. On the day the two lorry loads of concrete turned up with 12 cubic meters on, i was told i would need at least 5 blokes to pour it, there was just me and my 70 year old dad.
Came close to killing the poor old sod that day.
I can't convey in words how bad that week was.
[i]Yeah sorry LHS I laughed too.[/i]
I hope he's over it, cos it is pretty funny. 😆
yes another one who laughed
We've nearly eradicated all the old bodges left in our house, which was built by a bloke who is a former British hill climb champion and now lives 50 yards away. Just got the kitchen to do now, then it will be time to start redecorating all the stuff we did ten years ago....
There have been many many bodges that we've uncovered, crimped-over pipes, shoddy wiring, leaking showers, crumbling timber, I think the best was the downstairs WC soil pipe, which exited the pan and turned 180 degrees then went down through the floor alongside the pan, encased in a big box. All he had to do was make a hole behind the pan and use a 90 degree bend. However doing that meant I had to crawl under the floor into a tapering 14" space and wrestle with a collection of soil pipe joints in order to rejoin the outgoing soil pipe to the sewer, all the time being gassed by the smells coming out of the open soil pipe.
My first place had wood block floors that needed re-sanding, so before moving in properly I decided to sand them all back & re-finish. Only trouble was there was a strip under the double rad in the hall that I couldn't reach with the machines, so I dropped off the rad to get to it.
Once it was all done I decided to put the rad back on before varnishing and managed to cross thread the valve so gungy black rad water spurted out all over the bare wood floor, soaking in and staining it permanently.
A timely thread... I've just drilled through a plastic heating pipe on my 1 week old house. Water everywhere and a hole chiseled out of a brand new wall to fix it... 🙁
I drilled through a gas pipe in our kitchen, was quite pleased as it wasn't the water pipe as I could have been electrocuted - the gas fitter found it quite amusing, unlike Mrs W.
Not one of our DIY bodges - the taps on our bath were live due to bad earth
all of the above ^^^ just goes to show how pointless buyers surveys are, I guess [b][i]we[/i][/b] all know that deep down anyway, and they write in all sorts of caveats and disclaimers, but for the naive, the inexperienced and first time buyers, they rely on those surveys.
A friend who's a plumber is currently working (re-configuring) a barn conversion my Dad's best friend did (for himself) about 10 - 12 years ago, the things he's told me are unbelievable for such a relatively young project! Worst bit is I now work for the building regs. department who oversaw it.......
Laugh about it now, still have the scar.
Laugh about it now, still have the scar.
Mental or Physical?
I suspect I can win this......
So, I found roof bodge with batons and had to to be taken off and a new roof put on, leaking microbore central heating that had caused most of the upstairs joists to rot to the point they took the wall plates with them, so when you took the floorboards up you could push through the end of joist + wall plate and push the render off the outside of the house.
Chimney stacks rotten in roof space, so you could pick through bricks with your hands and put them into the chimney.
rotten ceiling joists hidden by plasterboard being put over old plaster and and lathe and reskimmed however plasterboard then tore small flat roof down.
sewer pipes ~ 3 inches down and cracked. Sewer Manhole cover in garden removed and left to overgrow with weeds etc to the point it was choked up with plants for 6 feet in both directions, once direction having a lot of sewage built up (months)
electrical wiring spurs created with normal kettle flex.
old plumbing pipes still in walls and with water in and broken so they slowly seeped water into walls causing interesting patterns.
lost track of small things I found.
Had a number of tradesmen walk away from the jobs, as they were too much hassle which also helped.
Wasn't there a bloke on here whose canopy porch thing sheared off the front of his new build house just after he'd passed under it?
The builders had secured the whole porch assembly on with 5 wood screws or something.
A few years ago we had the drive dug out at our old house. We lived on a hill and digging the drive out meant a 3-4 foot drop was exposed. My wife was pregnant at the time and had to (very carefully) drop down to get out onto the road. The builder assured us this would only be like this for a day or two. However, he failed to show up for nearly 2 weeks. As you can imagine i was a bit cross.
Turns out he was in court during this time for various crimes. Needless to say we got someone else to finish the job.
To top it off the muppet turned up 3 months after the work was completed demanding payment and threatening violence.
Git. 😕
Last house, we put new heating system in. Workmen were away 10 minutes when I went to nail down a loose floorboard, right through the newly installed gas pipe. Luckily he had left his mobile number and was back with the hou, after turning off the gas.
At our last place - we'd moved out for the final weeks of an extension project and the builder had inadvertently left a bleed nipple in the attic room fully open after earlier messing with the water supply.
This was on a Friday so for the full weekend water had been squirting out of the radiator and had soaked right through the ceiling into our bedroom, through our bed, through the floor and into the kitchen.
And when we went to investigate his mess, it turned out he'd made an attempt at salvaging things and that included emptying the contents of the drawers in the divan base – one of which included a selection of toys and other such things.
My wife was not amused, especially as she worked with the builder's wife 🙂
one of which included a selection of toys and other such things.
Bloody hell. Took me a minute to get that.
8)
When I was a teenager and still at home, my father decided to do a diy conversion of the two downstairs rooms into one big one, in our terraced house.
So it got to the bit where he had to knock the holes in the walls to house the RSJ, he'd done the one side and was working on the other, when he exclaims" bugger,I've knocked through into next doors" followed by" I think we'll get away with it, there's only a tiny chink of light coming through"
A couple of hours later when next door came home, knock on our door, neighbour says" I think you'd better come and have a look at this", so in we goes.
The old man was right, there was only a tiny hole, the trouble was about 3 square foot of plaster had come off and pulled the wallpaper all the way to the floor.
We still have a giggle about that every now and then.
Many years ago, my uncle Denis slipped off a joist in his loft and went through the ceiling of my cousin's bedroom. On account of him being a big chap and the house evidently having shite floorboards, he also went through the floor and ended up in the dining room below.
Top to bottom of the house in one fall, barely a scratch on him, but rather a lot of remedial work required on the house.
stevestunts, that's awesome - basically a Simpsons episode clip in real life.
Was he OK?
I went through the ceiling a few weeks ago too.
Proper comedy moment. Just moving stuff around the partially boarded loft, foot in the wrong place, right through into Seadog Daughters bedroom. Hanging onto the rafters with my legs dangling down.
Mrs Seadog did NOT see the funny side of it.....
Knocking several shades of sh1t out of the kitchen when we moved in here, reached up to the top shelf of a cupboard to make sure it was clear before I ripped it off the wall.
For some reason I wasn't wearing gloves, so as I reached into the greasy chipboard recess I found myself caressing... the previous owner's sex dice. Bloik.
Feeling pretty fortunate now, the only thing wrong with my house (that I've found so far anyway) is the faulty boiler overheat stat being bypassed, £200 for a new one/labour to fit it. Other than bits of plaster falling off the walls when drilling holes for plugs not much else has gone wrong yet!
In our last flat, the first job was taking up the nasty laminate floor.
I still get cold sweats thinking about the discovery in the kitchen ,ALL the floor boards&joists were rotten..........
Recently moved into another place ....flat roof hell.
I think I'll use this thread as therapy during the coming months.....ha.
spent 2 month last year doing a total renovation of the back garden including a new lawn.
i had to get it done in time for my daughter's first birthday. the job was done 1 week before and i was pretty pleased with myself...but not so happy when the wife's nieces and nephews trampled the shit out of the freshly laid lawn....
a couple of months ago we decided to declutter our bedroom and move the furniture around. as i was pulling the bed towards one of the walls, i tripped on one of the wife's many shoes and fell back onto the wall. my elbow went straight through....it turns out the plaster on the whole wall was crumbling and rather than repair this the previous owners just put fresh wallpaper over it to hide it.
For sheer 'WTF?' confoundment in the face of the simplest little jobs, my dad filled in settling cracks in plaster work by gouging out 2" wide strip of plaster and then filling with..... tile grout! He had a big tub lying around and thought it'd do the trick. So instead of a bit of polyfilla sanded over and faultless to paint, he's got a huge line of shrunken concave tile grout across the wall which looks as cack as it sounds.
That's what happens when you divorce your DIY goddess wife (my mum) who basically built and decorated everything.
A timely thread... I've just drilled through a plastic heating pipe on my 1 week old house. Water everywhere and a hole chiseled out of a brand new wall to fix it...
Didn't the builders lay foil behind the pipes so you can find them with a metal detector?
"Didn't the builders lay foil behind the pipes so you can find them with a metal detector?"
you use a metal detector before drilling every time ?
i guess i might if i didnt know where every pipe and cable in my house went/came from as i fitted them all
bad luck to hit one though , probably want to stick a lottery ticket on based on them odds
my worst ones will be finding the electrics in my gaff were hazerdous to the extreme - to the point where the shower was melting the feed as it was far too small. the garage was wired into the back bedroom lighting circuit and kitchen extension was wired into the main ring by way of a 13amp plug into socket behind a kitchen unit.
I lifted some old floor boards in a box room to use to patch and match in other rooms. When carrying the new boards in to the room, I put my foot straight through the hole, through the ceiling below, and nearly into the coffee pot on the stove, which rather shocked my wife.
Also cut through the live power supply to the shower thinking it was the isolated cooker supply. Big bang, big spark, big hole in cutters, but no shock 🙂
Also cut through the live power supply to the shower thinking it was the isolated cooker supply. Big bnag, big spark, big hole in cutters, but no shock
I did a similar thing, in full view of my wife and two toddlers.
Still, it helped prove my argument that we didn't need to put stupid plastic covers on all electrical sockets because the RCD consumer unit would ensure they couldn't electrify themselves by pushing something into the sockets anyway.
(I didn't *win* the argument, but my point stood).
Sanding the front room floor (not a euphemism) at our first house. The missus was in the other room with the TV turned up to 11 to drown out the noise.
With a loud “ZING” I managed to put a nick in the radiator pipe at floor level which left me with something of a dilemma.
a) Stay put with my finger over the hole whilst shouting for help.
Or
b) Let go of the pipe and call the plumber myself whilst the entire murky contents of our heating system pissed all over the freshly painted walls.
After 10 minutes of hollering I went for option b)
The plumber turned up and said that he was on his way to another job but would be back in an hour or so. In the meantime he left me with a circular saw to cut the end off the floorboard near the pipe so that he could get access to fix it on his return.
Never having used a circular saw before I was somewhat alarmed by its ferocity and was rather surprised when it leapt out of my hand and ploughed a 2ft long 1/4” deep slit across me freshly sanded floor.
Not my best day.
Roll on 6 years…
In my new house I decided to undo the mystery wing nuts on the wall in my son’s bedroom. Then the toilet on the other side fell over.
We removed our old kitchen to find that the soil pipe had cracked at the base and we had a soak away in the corner of our kitchen!
We also found a hand sawed arch that was very skew-whiff - the plasterer found it hysterical and could still recall it 3 years later when we had him back for plastering the lounge
In my new house I decided to undo the mystery wing nuts on the wall in my son’s bedroom. Then the toilet on the other side fell over.
brilliant!
you use a metal detector before drilling every time ?
Yes. Doesn't everyone?
*reads thread*
Evidently not.
Never having used a circular saw before I was somewhat alarmed by its ferocity and was rather surprised when it leapt out of my hand and ploughed a 2ft long 1/4” deep slit across me freshly sanded floor.Not my best day.
Roll on 6 years…
In my new house I decided to undo the mystery wing nuts on the wall in my son’s bedroom. Then the toilet on the other side fell over.
😆 sorry have another 😆
Didn't the builders lay foil behind the pipes so you can find them with a metal detector?
They did, but I didn't own a cable detector at the time... I do now though!!
They were only 10mm pipes too, and weren't directly above or to the side of a radiator. Incredibly unlucky to hit one 🙁
I thought I was bad in putting a nail through a central heating pipe while securing a floorboard. I've got a long way to go.
Thanks for cheering me up - especially the toilet wingnuts!
wife wanted a cast iron bath in our old Victorian terrace/cottage, figured the weight of said bath filled with water and 3 people stood in it (best case scenario). Pulled (chipboard) floorboards from the 1980's refurb to find the joists rotten.....Had to drop kitchen ceiling to get steelwork in, boiler packed up at roughly same time (winter) so decided to install all new heating system. Only hot water was from old electric shower before it was ripped out then afterwards from a kettle. Only heating was gas fire in living room before it was ripped out. Wiring old and knackered so full rewire as well. All loose lat&plaster ceilings dropped, roof relaid (stone). At one point you could see sky&clouds from the living room as nothing inbetween. Parent in laws took pity and let us stay for 'a few weeks' - 5years later finally moved back in.
In that 5 years found out we couldnt have a family so had to then go upto what was going to be our family home and try and work on it with my head in bits and not much love for it.
Other than that fairly easy to do the work-did everything myself and got signed off by local BI, could never get the hang of plastering full walls or anything on roof (not good with heights).
Happy in there now but looking for 'the one' to do a full refurb on, want workshop/tinkering space rather than bedrooms nowadays.
My first proper house a victorian terrace had that wonderful plastic (the adverts you'll never have to paint the outside again) covering the front render.
Anyway that stuff is rubbish and had cracked, water got in behind and the render was blowing. No tradesmen would touch the job (or for outrageous money). So I took it off over the summer using a paint stripping torch and scraper. We had scaffolidng up for the roofers...
So I'd finally got to the last patches up by the eaves on a hot summers, windy day. The guys who built the loft extension for the previous owner must have brushed all the wood shavings into the eaves...
The fire took hold really quickly from initial smoke to raging fire. I moved faster than a monkey on amphetamines with a bucket up & down the scaffolding and had put mostly put it out by the time the fire brigade arrived.
The kids did enjoy their trip in the fire engine 😀
When we were renovating our house we were completely redoing the bathroom which had a frosted glass window into an old coal bunker next to the kitchen. Anyway, as me and the missus' dad were working in there she was making brews and washing dishes in the kitchen. I'll never forget the screaming and swearing that came out of such a normally well mannered mouth as I shoved a sledgehammer through the window about 8 ft from where she was stood.
That and the moment her mother decided it was safe to walk on the insulation we'd put under the floorboards, when the floorboards were still up. Left a hell of a bruise!
Just spat my tea on clean table after reading harry the spiders wingnut story!
RCD consumer unit would ensure they couldn't electrify themselves by pushing something into the sockets anyway
You can still get a shock if you touch both live and neutral. RCD only protects from shocks to earth, iirc.
Sparkie came one day and did some work and I asked him to set up an extra wall socket in the small bedroom. So he left a loop in the ring under the floor and told me just to cut it when I was ready and wire into the new socket. Our house has the rings for upstairs and downstairs running through the first floor and what he forgot to tell me (or didn't realise) was that he had put the loop in the downstairs ring. So off I went to turn off the upstairs ring and fetch my prized Park Tools cable cutters.... cut through the cable and BANG... one spark-eroded and completely useless cable cutter. Expensive mistake.
You can still get a shock if you touch both live and neutral. RCD only protects from shocks to earth, iirc.
Unless the child is stood on a bucket and wearing wellies, they will be earthed though.
Well, my kids often wear wellies, they also sit on furniture and floor coverings and the like.
Ok so the kid would have to stick something in both holes in the socket, but that's possible. But socket covers might actually be worse than nothing since UK sockets have protective shutters in anyway, but kids apparently have a habit of removing the covers and re-inserting them upside down, with the earth pin opening the shutters leaving live and neutral visible.
http://www.fatallyflawed.org.uk/
socket covers might actually be worse
Yes I tried that argument with my wife too.
And no, I didn't win that one either.
Not me, but a mate of mine is currently building his own house.
1. In dispute with the structural engineer who claims he's owed an extra 5k for calcs on a retaining wall which was out of scope in the original contract - is currently being sued by him
2. Except the contract is between the SE and the Project Manager (not my mate) which is good except
3. the PM has misappropriated 10k of my mates money doing up his own properties, has been fired and is now being sued by my mate;
4. The sacked PM is the only one who knows how to fix the steel on on the first floor - the architect has offered to reproduce the instructions/drawings but wants an extra 5k for it AND is currently being sued in a separate action by the PM
You honestly couldn't make it up. It makes some of the horror stories you see on Grand Designs look like you've lost a few guy lines putting up your tent.
I shouldn't laugh 😆
PS He also appeared on an episode of the The Planners, when planning permission nearly didn't happen.
PS He also appeared on an episode of the The Planners, when planning permission nearly didn't happen.
Sounds like it might have been for the best if that had been the outcome....
Midlifetowers was (bits still are) a fixer upper when we bought it. Mrsmidlife's mother comes to stay for Christmas, has her customary four courses, no salad, thanks.
Later she retires for the night, goes to the loo and both her and the pan crunch through the woodworm ridden floor. Oh how I tried not to be caught laughing.
Still, it helped prove my argument that we didn't need to put stupid plastic covers on all electrical sockets because the RCD consumer unit would ensure they couldn't electrify themselves by pushing something into the sockets anyway.(I didn't *win* the argument, but my point stood).
I thought that the current view was that the plastic covers were dangerous as they circumvented the covers to the live and neutral that sockets have.
Not gonna go into details cos it depresses me, but after spending 4 yrs doing up a house from the 70's, i can think of at least £100k's worth of stuff that we probably didn't actually need to do.
Oh well, should be back into positive equity in about 50 yrs. Then we can sell.
Some of these are classic.
I found a few beauties in my old house, pulled the GIB off the small stud wall in the kitchen, which on the plans was just a stud wall, to find the whole roof truss assemble hanging onto a 2cm notch. Ended up having to pull the whole ceiling of the room, put in a double wood beam and cover it up before the inspector came back as it wasn't in the plans and would need another consent ! That was a long night. Found the plugs in the bedroom connected by just putting them through the wall and round the outside of the house using internal wire, all rotten, all live and old tin bath touching them and thus live as well ! Stopped cats getting in right enough.
Took all the GIB off the inside of the house, removed the internal ceilings and started reframing it all. Builder cut massive hole in S side of house for french doors to go in which were made specicially. **** apprentice skillsaws right through them somehow so need to be remade. 5 weeks in winter with no S facing wall i.e. facing Antarctica. I ended up putting up my tent in the living room to sleep in as it was warmer. Said apprentice also welded himself to a live light socket one afternoon with his claw hammer. Was an impressive sight, like fireworks night.
Well if anyone's bothered, the wall's now been repaired and looks not bad.
Got cooker up the stairs thanks to Rockplough Sr., a couple of lifting straps, and some swearing. No thanks to downstairs neighbour who refused to move pram out of close and into her visibly empty hall because she had 'all the stuff for the baby'. Real reason probably that pram was filthy with mud which she'd traipsed all up the close and didn't want on her nice cream carpet.
Some of these stories are funny but horrific. I feel lucky.
Was someone sitting on the wingnut toilet pan at the time?
I've just got over a nightmare of a week.
Got my mini digger out to help a neighbour dig a drain in his garden and went through our electric cable 😳
I've just got over a nightmare of a week.
Got my mini digger out to help a neighbour dig a drain in his garden and went through our electric cable 😳
and then a double post misterfrostie.
It's really not your week 😉
I then overflowed the bath and nearly wrecked a £1200 freshly plastered kitchen ceiling - water pouring out of the new light fittings.
Same night I then screwed through a central heating pipe in the main bedroom and did the same thing to the living room ceiling.
I genuinely am quite reasonable with DIY but for whatever reason that particularly week it just all went tits.
and then a double post misterfrostie.It's really not your week
LOL I know. The bad week was several week ago now though 😀