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Sweaters(as in "beads of", not jumpers): What lid & glasses?

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Probably should be asking on a forum that's not UK-based given what I've heard about the conditions over there, but I've never joined an Aussie forum and I can't be arsed right now. So, forgive me - this isn't intended to rub salt in the wound, honest!

I'm a sweater. Like, big time. Now that I'm back on MTBs it's proving a problem - at the moment I'm finding myself preferring to ride without glasses because if I wear them I'll have sweated on them within 10mins of starting my ride and then have compromised vision for the remainder. By not wearing them I'm alleviating that issue, but opening myself up to mud / bugs / puddle splashes / foliage face slaps that could be risky to my eyesight. A bit of a "six and two threes" scenario...

I currently wear a POC Kortal helmet, which has better ventilation than the Giro Chronicle it replaced, but I'd love to know if there's a more airy enduro-style lid that'll help even more.

Or, are there glasses that are particularly good in this scenario? Or glasses treatments that I'm not aware of? I currently prefer my BBB 'Spectre' photochromic glasses, so if I can make those more resistant to the sweat that'd possibly be problem solved.

Alternatively, should I be considering wearing goggles instead of glasses? Will that even help? I'm sure it'll make me look more stupid than I already do, but I'm prepared to give it a go!

What say ye?...

*passes out blankets and mulled wine*


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:18 am
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Alternatively, have you tried wearing a headband?

Despite residing in non-tropical Scotland I still have sweat issues (lack of hair perhaps...). A buff, cut in half then folded over, worn as a 80s style headband under the helmet works for me. I find a full buff covering whole head too warm even in winter hence the adaptation.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:23 am
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Is it worth wearing a buff under your helmet to soak up the sweat? That's worked for me.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:25 am
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Wear half a buff under your lid (i.e. take a buff or a cheapo buff-a-like and cut it in half across-ways, making two mini-buffs), makes a massive difference. It holds the sweat and allows it to wick away rather than running into your eyes.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:27 am
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Damn, such sensible (and perfectly aligned) suggestions when I was ready to spend money!

Good call. Will try...


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:36 am
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Sweat is a bigger problem in the UK than it is in many other places because there sweat dries off and actually works to keep you cold, but here it's always so damp that I have sweat running down my face more or less any time of year, it's just the amount that varies.

In winter it's 1/3 of a buff under my helmet, but in summer it's a Halo sweat band.

Wear half a buff under your lid (i.e. take a buff or a cheapo buff-a-like and cut it in half across-ways, making two mini-buffs), makes a massive difference.

For me, the sweat band works better than strips of Buff - but they are annoyingly expensive for what they are.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:42 am
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I also wear a POC Kortal MIPS and I have a set of prescription Oakley Plasma glasses

I do find the sweat will sometimes pool on the frame, as I also sweat very easily, however if you go faster it does fly off


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:43 am
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Oh and I found that shades that sit far from your face like Oakley Jawbreakers are much better at avoiding sweat than say Half Jackets which collect droplets of spray from my eyebrows as well as the big drops which is infuriating as it really harms visibility. Often, with the bigger further away shades, if (and it is if, not when, when I'm using the Halo) I get a drop it lands on the bottom half and I'm looking through the top half.

The downside with this style of shades is that if there is bright light behind you it reflects off the inside if the lenses and can make it pretty hard to see.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:50 am
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Owing to the hormone therapy I'm on, I sweat and sweat and sweat some more. I stand up and I start sweating. Nightmare.

I've found that road helmets can often have better ventilation. I alternate between using a Halo sweat band and thin cycling caps under the helmet. Both soak it up for a while. I also use Zeiss anti-fog spray on my glasses. The glasses usually end up in a pocket but the spray delays this.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:52 am
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I'd recommend a Fox Speedframe, but others will disagree

I have Endura Dorado II glasses which don't seem to get too bad and have a hydrophobic coating

Tried a halo sweatband with the silicone strip to supposedly channel the sweat away from your eyes and towards your ears. Hated it, just got saturated and was worse than not wearing it


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:55 am
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I'm a sweater.  I've had an Oakley DRT5 helmet for a couple of years - it's got no pads, so you don't get the sweat dripping down on your face when they get absorbed - it has a rubber gutter type thing for your forehead instead, so the sweat channels down the side of your head more than your forehead.  I don't miss having absorbing pads.

I don't tend to wear eyewear offroad, but being Oakley it has attachment points at the back to clip your glasses on for climbs etc.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:56 am
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A 2" strip cut from a buff, I used one for years as my sweat seems to destroy helmet pads so needed something cheap and universal. Gives enough surface area below the helmet and up into the vent to wick away moisture and dry. It works even on hot days as it'd adding cooling not insulation/windblocking.

Bell helmets have the padding extend under the front lip of the helmet which both allows it to wick/evaporate, and if it does drip it drips forward out the way.

Glasses - big retro style ones. I got photochromatic ones from lidl. Bigger lenses mean more air space/flow behind them and no fogging rather than smaller ones that sit over your eye socket.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 11:58 am
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If your happy with your POC helmet, try one of the sweatbands/buff soloutions(cheapest option).

I have an Oakley drt5 not the best vented,but the silicon gutter works really well,and get no sweat pouring into my eyes,Paired with a pair of Oakley turbine gigs never foggedup (have since lost them on trails, but I originally found them on local trail),so back to cheapo gigs.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 12:09 pm
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-1 for the Oakley DRT5. Got one earlier this year after advice on here.

The silicone forehead gutter thing just doesn't work for me. Even riding in freezing temps last weekend I had sweat dripping into my glasses.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 12:14 pm
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Looks like there’s a new version of the DRT5 called the ‘Maven’ - might see if I can try one locally.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 12:34 pm
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Agree with the above re the Fox Speedframe Pro - I found a review which tested helmets for ventilation and it came top, so I bought one and it works for me - I think its the low vent, under the peak which makes the difference. They're on offer at CRC (if they deliver down under, that is!)
As said though, same solution isn't for everyone, so don't sue me 😛


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 1:09 pm
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How about keep your current helmet, but get one of those sweat gutter (sorry, gutr) headbands?

https://www.sweatgutr.com/


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 1:19 pm
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Oakley DRT5 or a halo sweatband. Buffs just fill with water and then drip down onto your glasses. Halo or DRT5 divert the sweat to run down the side of your head.

Went up Alpe d'Huez in 35C with a Halo and no sweat on my sunglasses


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 1:34 pm
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"Halo or DRT5 divert the sweat to run down the side of your head"

My Halo and DRT5 work for a bit but sweat soon starts dripping into my face/glasses ☹️


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:00 pm
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I've a sweaty head as well, and before you get excited about buffs, all I've found is that I've ended up wearing a wet buff that makes both my head and helmet wet while not providing any wicking...
I did this last summer, some good responses

Helmets. Summer. Sweating.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:03 pm
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Hated it, just got saturated and was worse than not wearing it

Yes it will get saturated, but the rubber strip is meant to seal against your forehead so the sweat doesn't run down.

Were you using the thick or slim one?


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 5:13 pm
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That's the idea but it doesn't work, once mine gets saturated it drips.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 5:16 pm
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I find that the latest version of the Giro Montaro does some sort of magi  trick and most of my sweat drips down behind my ears and at the back of my head. Noticeable difference from other helmets I've owned (Bell Super Air, Fox Speedframe, Giro Chronicle and previous Giro helmets).

For lack of glasses steaminess, Rad8 for me. Even though I can't get their special hydrophilic (you read that right) lenses as I wear prescription lenses, they are still pretty darned good at not steaming up. 


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 5:19 pm
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I never ride wearing glasses or goggles or anything else. Just mtb helmet with a peak. Years ago spent too much money on a pair of Northwave glasses to wear them only once 🙄


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 6:47 pm
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I use Halo or a sweatband . Halo has a bit more capacity to hold sweat but with both they have rung out a few times per ride .  Previously I would have to press my helmet against my head to squeeze out the sweat but you could never get good full squeeze so the odd rogue drip would land on my glasses. Unfortunately the Halo sweat diverter does not work with my odd shaped forehead . 

The headband /Halo does soak up  some of the sweat that would find its way into the helmet pads so that makes things a little more pleasant.                      Not wearing glasses is not a option unfortunately due to my poor eyesight.  


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 9:08 am
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The 'Gutr' things repulse me, but I may need to consider them. Although, at US$40 shipped, they ain't cheap for what they are - that's roughly £30, which doesn't sound like much, but it equates to AU$60, which is half of a new Oakley DRT5 helmet...

I've also been told to try some Rain-X on my glasses, which sounds sensible & logical - any verdicts on that here?


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 9:27 am
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The problem being sweat is more than just water, so it leaves a residue on the surface. Better to stop sweet getting on glasses 


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 9:51 am
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I purchased a GUTR after being recommended one on the forum a few years ago - its excellent, easy to keep clean and stops my glasses (prescription) steaming up - I can then move it between helmets as I change or ride my gravel bike etc. Its pretty much invisible under the lip of the helmet - think i just got mine from Amazon, was about £15


 
Posted : 06/12/2023 10:25 am
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I’d recommend a Fox Speedframe, but others will disagree

I'm one of those that disagrees. I found the massive forehead pad just filled with sweat and dumped it down my face when it was full after about 30 minutes. Categorically the worst helemt for this in my 24 years of riding.

Now on an Oakley DRT5 with the silicone strip. Its not perfect, but is pretty good and liveable. Whilst it doesn't look amazingly vented, I've not found it to be any hotter than the speed frame. The Uvex Finales I used before were better vented than both.

I will try the strip of buff material next summer. Strikes me that extra surface area for evaporation is a food thing.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 11:15 am
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Looks like there’s a new version of the DRT5 called the ‘Maven’ – might see if I can try one locally.

Tried the DRT5 today, but the original version, not the Maven. Great fit, and I can get away with the medium, unlike Oakley's road models where I'm forced into the large because the shape is weird... I digress.

If the DRT5 Maven has the sweat strip, that's probably what I'll do. I can't stand the idea of the Gutr things, and the price is so high to Oz that I might as well spend the extra on a new lid - especially as the MIPS is an upgrade on my POC Kortal anyway.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 11:21 am
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I always use a skull cap to absorb sweat. Air vents then wick it away, unless I'm climbing a big hill and a boiling day.


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 11:21 am
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Came here to say that after moving to sydney in 2020 I had the same issue. Tried the halo, didn’t work.

Bought an Oakley lid from the Manly store and have been happy ever since. 


 
Posted : 07/12/2023 6:57 pm
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Are you still in Sydney, @cakeandcheese??


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 8:34 am
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By way of an update, Oakley's Boxing Day / New Year sales enabled me to pick up the new 'Maven' version of the DRT5 for the same price as their sale price on the original DRT5. I was a bit miffed when the so-called 'Obsydian Blue' colour - which looks decidedly greeny-blue in the pics - turned out to be more like a dusky royal blue IRL, but c'est la vie...

Slighty annoyingly the sizing seems to have changed a bit between the original and the Maven (why do brands do that?!), but it still fits safely.

One ride in so far. The sweat gutter definitely works - at times I could even feel it holding sweat in its channels which then released when I tipped my head. It's been bloody humid in Sydney lately (95%+ RH), though, so anything would have trouble completely preventing sweat dripping, and sure enough my glasses did get a splashing. The difference being I was probably halfway or two-thirds into my ride when it happened, Vs within the first 15mins as was the previous norm.

The round Oakley shape doesn't suit my head so well so I'm not yet totally sold, but I'll persevere. What I have realised is that the sweat gutter is removable, so I may see if I can make it work on my POC Kortal as then I'll have the sweat management with the fit (and colour) that I prefer.

I'm still yet to try Rain-X or a similar equivalent, but I'll get to that next...


 
Posted : 15/01/2024 10:17 pm
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Are you still in Sydney, @cakeandcheese??

Ah! Sorry, I’m crap at replies.

I’m in the Blue Mountains now. Sydney is far too big for me! Beaches are nice though, lived in Newport for a short while


 
Posted : 16/01/2024 6:15 am
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Wet lad here too.

I see you are using a POC, as I was coming in to recommend a POC Tectal to be honest. I've had it 2.5 years and love it for that reason - had endless sweat issues with my Endura helmet and the Smith one before it but this one is at worst tolerable. I have only had to lift it up to perch on top of my head in summertime when winching up the climb at Inners. Plus they look fairly cool too imo.

Glasses: I am using Oakley Sutros, which admittedly I bought when I had more spare cash because I thought they looked cool. They are relatively airy in there but on hot days I do find myself with streaks of sweat down them.

A while back I had a pair of knock-off Oakley Flight Jackets - these have a little lever on the nose that pushes the frame away from your face and increases ventilation. I only bought different ones because they didn't play nice with the road helmet I was using at the time, but even on the fake ones it worked well and the build quality seemed fine. Can only imagine the real ones will be even better.


 
Posted : 16/01/2024 3:13 pm
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I'm sweaty.

On the MTB A buff under the helmet on hot days has helped me loads.

On the road a cap under the helmet has made a massive difference.

I wear a bell super. It isn't super ventilated.

When I was in oz, I just sweated loads.

When on the MTB if there is a pause in the ride I press the helmet on my head to squeeze out the sweat from the pads.


 
Posted : 16/01/2024 3:23 pm

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