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Just checked a list out of curiosity. Gone now.
This is what I always hoped Simon Bates would do. Warn viewers that VHS I’d just rented contained bad language and then for him to give a list of examples. Maybe over the musical bed for ‘Our Tune’
Penistone
S****horpe
**** drainpipe
It's complete shite that we have such a thing.
It’s complete shite that we have such a thing.
😆 It is, but I kind of understand why. I don't think Mark and the team are particularly prudish. As the site relies so much on advertisers, they would probably take a dim view of you lot effing and jeffing and calling everyone Berkley Hunts all the time. Even if it is warranted! 😉
If you think the STW team are prudish, you should try posting on the ukworkshop forum. There even words like idiot are changed to less provocative words. So for idiot it automatically changes to 'silly person'
Shite(without the E is changed to 'Dung'
b*****d is changed to 'Turnip'
Bu66er is changed to 'pipper'
4r5e is changed to 'buttocks'
So possibly instead of losing the word to a series of stars, it could be replaced by something like the above.
Did the wordlist leak? It's hilarious reading.
The point of the swear filter is, it's a family show. We're all adults, except we aren't and there's kids on here. You wouldn't walk into Marks & Spencer on a rainy Tuesday and yell "you're all *s!!" even if it's factually correct. You'd present a degree of decorum. If you want a forum where you can call a spade a * then that's what Mumsnet is for (or mleh if it still exists).
So possibly instead of losing the word to a series of stars, it could be replaced by something like the above
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao4-ViMMlBg
for idiot it automatically changes to ‘silly person’
There's an element of that in the STW filter which exists for little more than comedic value. Easter eggs, if you like.
The old MBUK/ bike radar forum was funny for that.
Splash and Dash off!
You wouldn’t walk into Marks & Spencer on a rainy Tuesday and yell “you’re all ****s!!
And yet we now want to.
It would be nice if subscribers could choose to read unfiltered, but the technical overhead would likely be excessive as I’d hope from a performance point of view that the filter gets applied on post submissions rather than at render-time.
Do not attempt to subvert the swear filter, expand your vocabulary instead, thou infectious beetle-headed minnow.
I bet your dad sells Avon, too.
As Billy Connolly said,
"If there was an alternative to '**** off' I'd gladly use it. It certainly isn't 'go away.'"
Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment and outwith the forum I swear like a blind cobbler, there is a time and a place for such decorum or absence thereof.
As Billy Connolly said,
“If there was an alternative to ‘**** off’ I’d gladly use it. It certainly isn’t ‘go away.'”
Also true, was it 'the Hound'? in game of thones ?
I'm not sure if this is allowed but:
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Are there really any kids who read the forum! If there are then they deserve to see a lot of ****ing swearing. What the **** are they doing reading a ****ing forum full of old ****s talking bollocks and arguing about every ****ing thing ever.
**** off kids and go hang out with people your own ****ing age you little bastards.
I do find the serial impotence of the “**** Cancer” threads’ titles darkly amusingly. It’s so stiffly English to not even be able to swear about cancer.
If you think the STW team are prudish, you should try posting on the ukworkshop forum. There even words like idiot are changed to less provocative words. So for idiot it automatically changes to ‘silly person’
I'm off there then, see you next time.
This is what I always hoped Simon Bates would do.
Well, one thing he did do was enable me to win a trip for two to Los Angeles for a week! Got a tour around Universal Studios along with it, along with a car to drive around the city.
Before anyone asks, all I had to do was write down the answers to four questions about the film ‘Hackers’ on a postcard, one per day, and send it to an address given on the fifth day. I knew all the answers, and wrote them on the back of a C5 envelope, so giving me a better chance of someone pulling it out of the bag, box, or whatever.
Best competition prize ever! #smugface
I just wish the swearing filter would put the right amount of stars in. I mean bastard has 8 letters, ****er has 6, but ****, **** & **** only 4....
Edit: ooh bastard is allowed!
Does Google detect a "violation" if a swear word is typed into a post but isn't displayed? I've assumed that the forum software would handle any sweary stuff so that I could type whatever bollocks I wanted without repercussion but I may have to revise that approach if it's affecting revenue from ads.
No. Swear filter removes the word from the database specifically so Google doesn’t index it.
Cool. Thanks.
It would be nice if subscribers could choose to read unfiltered, but the technical overhead would likely be excessive as I’d hope from a performance point of view that the filter gets applied on post submissions rather than at render-time.
Its been an option on other forums I've used.
It’s not technical. It’s financial. See my post above.
A student web forum I used to use had some practical uses of the swear filter list, specifically targeted at some problematic club members.
1) Due to one person posting lots of single word text-speak responses, 'LOL' got replaced by "I have nothing useful to add to this conversation"
2) Due to one person's obsession with cheap roast dinners, 'Carvery' got replaced at different times with references to sexual intercourse. "Want to go for a carvery?" then became a long standing in-joke chat up line...
3) Various people's nicknames/usernames got subverted at different intervals - mine became 'Firefly' at one point (changed by someone who'd forgotten I was an Admin and could also edit the filter list...)
My most amusing days at work was some time after we'd released some software using a public domain list of words for the spell checker. Someone asked "Did you mean it to do this?" and sent a screenshot with our software helpfully suggesting "muddyfunster", "muddyfunsters", "muddyfunsting" as alternatives to her typo. (I've swear-filter avoided myself there sorry to convey the humour of the 3 different versions of the rude word suggested). We had a fun afternoon attempting to find all the other naughty words in the word list.
You’re all fluffybunnies
It’s so stiffly English to not even be able to swear about cancer.
The thing is, with my "I used to be a moderator you know" hat on for a moment, give people an inch and they'll take a parsec. There are those who know exactly where the line is and take great joy in dancing right along the edge of it.
I just wish the swearing filter would put the right amount of stars in.
+1, that's annoyed the piss out of me for years. Like the filter replacement for effing should be *ing or at least *, not *.
1) Due to one person posting lots of single word text-speak responses, ‘LOL’ got replaced by “I have nothing useful to add to this conversation”
We have a couple of those also.
My best experience of a swear filter was when one of our Thursday night Cannock Chase ride group worked at Wedgwood. Any emails saying "meet tonight at the Barley Mow" would get through. But "meet tonight at Milford Common" got bounced.
Now that's what I call a strict filter.
I had to deal with a filter misfire one time, years ago. A bit like the S****horpe Problem.
We were getting an absolute buttload of email trapped in the spam filter and no-one could work out why. I eventually tracked it down but it took days (logging was poor). It was objecting to the word "specialist" in job titles in people's signatures, because it contained "cialis" which is (apparently!) a Viagra-a-like drug.
I've looked in our version control to see what we removed. Wonder which ones are blocked here...
bullshit
bullshits
bullshitted
bullshitter
bullshitters
bullshitting
****
****s
****
****s
****
****
****ed
****er
****ers
****ing
****ings
****s
horseshit
mother****er
mother****ers
mother****ing
shat
shit
shithead
shits
shittier
shittiest
shitting
shitty
spunk
spunked
spunks
tosser
tossers
That's pretty lax 🙂
It looks more ex-lax.
Like the filter replacement for effing should be ****ing
Not really because that doesn't distinguish between the widely considered to be offensive English F-word, and the perfectly acceptable Irish F-word, both of which are banned.
I am mystified how you can't describe someone as being the TW-word, which is practically a term of endearment imo, and yet you can describe them as being a shithead or a tosser.
Not really because that doesn’t distinguish between the widely considered to be offensive English F-word, and the perfectly acceptable Irish F-word, both of which are banned.
There's a specific reason why the Irish word was added, along with a few others. It was down to abuse from one particular user, now banned.
I am mystified how you can’t describe someone as being the TW-word, which is practically a term of endearment imo, and yet you can describe them as being a shithead or a tosser.
It's all relative. I'm in the North West of England where, as you suggest, people not calling you rude names could mean that they don't like you.
The point though, as I said, is it's there to establish a degree of decorum. Whether it's successful or not I'll leave as an exercise for the reader. 🙂
Fairy nuff, although I am struggling to figure out how the Irish F-word can ever be used as a term of abuse.
now banned.
They wouldn't apologise?
I am struggling to figure out how the Irish F-word can ever be used as a term of abuse.
:shrug: not my circus.
To my aspie mind, it baffles me that in isolation a jumble of letters can be offensive. Like the f-word spelt with a U in the middle is offensive, yet spelt with an E is fine. French Connection UK (with apologies to Eric Morecambe) have all the same letters although not necessarily in the same order on all their branding. Tabloid newspapers will print it in headline text an inch and a half high with two asterisks in the middle like no-one knows what it could possibly mean. THAT IS LITERALLY THE SAME WORD USING DIFFERENT SYMBOLS, it makes absolutely zero sense, none, nada. Am I allowed to swear in Spanish?
What does matter, and it's unhooked from language, is intent. As Steve Hughes says in the video above (and 'national treasure' Stephen Fry is on record as saying something similar), "taking offence" is subjective. Where we differ in opinion here is, it is absolutely possible to cause offence, and moreover to do so intentionally.
We've seen this in the trans conversations, your friend Stephan tells you they now want to be addressed as Stephanie. They have no right to demand that you do anything, but you now have two options as to what you do with this information.
I could think you're a great bloke and call you a bellend, it's a standard greeting amongst my friends. Or I could think you're an absolute bellend and call you a bellend. Same word, same letters, wildly differing contexts.
@mark yeah I know it's financial, I was replying to the person that thought it was technical.
We have a couple of those also.
Lol