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[Closed] Suspected poor installation of log burner - help please

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I'm not convinced all is well fume wise and it appears that the flue/burner joint is very loose. Is this normal?

Rented property btw and just had my suspicions confirmed that our boiler has been installed wrong not by a registered fitter.


 
Posted : 14/04/2014 11:36 pm
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It should have an installation tag attached to it.
Get a carbon monoxide detector.
Not normal


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 3:15 am
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You shouldn't be getting any fumes at all in the room with a properly installed stove. That's all.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 5:10 am
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Landlord first. If he won't play ball warn him of consequences then relevant authorities.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 5:36 am
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I'd be more worried about a dodgy boiler installation. Get that sorted 1st & then the woodburner. Seriously.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 6:34 am
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No installation tag, they bought it 2nd hand and I suspect had a dodgy builder install it. Boiler now shut off. Landlord has been told several times and done nothing. Not going to say too much on an open forum but things are getting messy.

have picked up a CO detector as I've been suspicious for a while, obviously I am reluctant to use the fire, especially with pets in the house but I will do an experiment.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 6:44 am
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is it a gas or oil boiler?

If the former, it should have an annual Gas Safety Certificate which is a requirement for all lettings. If the latter there is no equivalent but good landlords should arrange annual services and provide evidence.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 6:47 am
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I'm no expert, but I wouldn't experiment with the fire!

I thought it had to be signed off by building control, if not installed by a hetas installer. Suspect probably not as I don't think hetas installer would usually touch s/h unit.

Good luck sorting.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 6:48 am
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Have you held back the rent, or at least taken advice on doing so?


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 6:59 am
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How long have you been using the log burner and what type of wood have you burnt. Depending on how well seasoned the wood is or even the type of wood being used, you may find that the chimney may need cleaning as often as once every couple of months. I know when I burnt a batch of wood that was less than fully seasoned I was having to clean the chimney every 4 weeks at one point. If you have never had it in swept in the past 6 months I suggest you get it done before escalating it with the landlord as if found to be the problem they may throw it back at you and state it is your responsibility to ensure the chimney is kept clean.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:18 am
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Give HETAS a call - they'll send someone round to take a look at it.

For the boiler call Gas Safe Register if it's gas or OFTEC if it's oil.

They all take dodgy installations pretty seriously.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:20 am
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If it's a dodgy boiler installation I'd be bypassing the landlord and getting 'the authorities' involved.

Same with the fire.

If they're prepared to install stuff illegally I'd have no faith they'll sort it out to an acceptable standard.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:25 am
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Honest opinion?
Move. If these 2 things are done wrong what else hasn't been done right.
In the short term ask for all the safety certs and inspections for the boiler. That should help you get out of any tenancy agreement if the landlord is already in the wrong. Have they put your deposit in the protection scheme? If they are not up to date on the other regs that may also not be right - again a good bargaining chip.

I'm guessing there is no agent involved here?


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:27 am
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Re gas certificate...the HSE are the ones to report it to

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/faqtenant.htm


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:32 am
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Depending upon what the hearth material is, some freestanding stoves can rotate a miniscule amount every time the door is shut, all these can add up and open a pipe joint - easy fix.

Edited as I hadn't read the OP properly.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:32 am
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I'd be dubious about a dodgy installation as it would have been picked up on by the owners when the installation was done.

Normally I'd agree with that but when the OP starts with

Rented property btw and just had my suspicions confirmed that our boiler has been installed wrong not by a registered fitter.

Sounds more like someone bodging stuff with a mate.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:34 am
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Yeah the boiler install is far more serious. Stove sounds like a simple one- stoves expand and contract a lot and the stove/pipe joint is a classic for loosening.
TBH I suspect a loose joint there will actually be sucking air in (thus reducing the draw in the stove a bit) rather than allowing gas out.


 
Posted : 15/04/2014 7:40 am

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