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Do they have any place in the modern world?

I used to want one when I was growing up in my teens. I used to draw my own designs (mostly from side profile, but progressed to 3d looking across bonnet), with flip up lights, gull wing doors, and massive spoilers.

Then at some point quite quickly when the reality of leaving college hit, in the gap before I went to university, I realized I was never going have one. For a short while I still clung to the dream of building a Lotus 7 kit car replica, but it was only a short while later I realized even that was beyond my means, but mainly I was shit at mechanics.

Now there's climate change, massive wealth inequality, and vehicles such as **** tanks, pozer panzers or teslas geometric inverted wheelbarrow, and to me, they merely represent that massive wealth inequality, greed, and exploitation of people and the planet to the detriment of both.

Mixed feelings about supercars however. They're for the wealthy elite obviously, but I still actually think they look cool.

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:13 pm
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Absolutely a place for them.

Where I live I can be out on the road bike and get passed by some stunning  bits of kit being driven fairly hard but not stupidly .

 

I think I’m lucky that I live on the Welsh boarders that have some great drivers roads that don’t attract idiots 

I was also speaking recently to a guy who works for Bentley and he was saying now the market is nuts that you can create a limited edition 20 run of supercar , barely change anything yet sell it for huge margin 

 

 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:19 pm
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If I could afford one, I'd happily pay whatever taxes or charges required to run one. I've spent 50 years wanting one so if I won the lottery tonight, I'll get one, however briefly, just to make the 5 year old me happy.

(Subject to being able to get in and out of one with my aging back)

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:19 pm
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Magnum PI. Man of the people, had a Ferrari. Mind you his two best mates had a helicopter and a mansion. (Or was it Higgins' Ferrari? Dunno, he looked the shit though, eh)

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:19 pm
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Lots of boys like fast toys . 😉 

 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:20 pm
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It was epic on the Amiga 500z

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:26 pm
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Ah yeah, Magnum, Knight Rider, their fault totally! 

I can't decide if I'd have a Countach and F40 for nostalgia, or just go with whatever Lambo/Ferrai is the latest & greatest!

 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:26 pm
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Yes. Supercars aren't really all about how fast you CAN drive them but the implied performance is part of the draw. But I think it's mainly about the excellence of design and engineering. Oh and generally speaking they tend to be less polluting than a traveling salesman's rep-mobile because they don't do much mileage.

Anyway I have a shortlist of Ferraris to buy when my numbers come up.

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:31 pm
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Despite being an environmentalist, cars have always interested me, but supercars barely at all - I can't conceive of one that you could actually enjoy on a road and naturally, having any car just for fun these days is such a morally bankrupt thing to do. So no, they don't have a place, including the electric ones. To be honest, I think in my lifetime the concept of owning any car will become totally alien. 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:31 pm
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The gullwing door thing always looked cool, I agree. Until the day that some chap rolled up at our previous office in a BMW whateveritwas,  backed into parking space between two normal cars as instructed, and found he couldn't open the door. Then he just looked like a tit 🤣 

 
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Cars that do 200mph seem like a daft idea to me, I just don't see the point. I'd rather have an Austin Healey 3000 or an MG A roadster, if I wanted something nice in front of my country pad. But in reality I'd have little use for one. Better all round to have a comfy, spacious automatic/EV, easy driving is great. A lottery win wouldn't change that, if anything I'd have a chauffeur because I can't be arsed to drive and would rather have someone else do it..

Driving for kicks? I'd get a Lotus Elise. 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 9:47 pm
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Aren't they just one of the prizes when you "win"(*) Hustle culture?

 

I guess it comes down to how much you aspire to be compared to Saudi Princes, Andrew Tate or "Mr Beast" then fine, but they are basically for (disgustingly wealthy) losers... 

 

 

 

 

 

(*nobody really wins). 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 10:20 pm
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But those people also like food and breath air too, so our view of supercars shouldn't be based on the fact we find some of the people who own them to be extremely unpalatable human beings, as we all have things in common. Super cars aren't exclusively for dick heads are they?

I honestly don't know if I'd actually buy one if I suddenly had a massive lottery win. Might be more sensible to rent one, race drive it carefully round a track a few times, and that be that.

I'd probably buy something more sensible so I could transport a few bikes and the family in.

Back to reality from this brief super car fantasy this evening.

Looks a bit classier to me than some of the recent super cars which have all the finesse of a 'futuristic' computer game.

 

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 10:44 pm
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With you 100% OP

In my youth I used to love cars.

Now I think owning show off cars, particularly supercars, hyper cars or anything ostentatiously "luxury" just marks you out as a bellend completely out of tune with reality for most people and also the state of the planet.

I would still quite like a ratty track car I could spanner myself and rag round a track (not on the road!) but I don't have the time nor a garage, so not happening any time soon.

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 10:55 pm
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I don’t have a problem with them generally, they’re so well engineered that they’re probably less polluting that the bloke next door’s grotbox.

However, they often seem to be owned and driven by entitled assholes, who believe that they can make everyone else’s lives a misery by driving in a stupid and irresponsible manner.

Having said that, there’s even more stupid, irresponsible assholes driving in a reckless and dangerous manner in cars that cost a tiny fraction of what a supercar does.

Would I own one, given the funds necessary? Possibly, but it would likely be something like an Arial Atom V8, a BMC Mono, or a Mazda MX5 with a V6 conversion, cars that I could drive within limits on narrow country roads and be able to use the handling to its best advantage, then drive to my nearest race circuit, which is Castle Combe, and really push the performance to my maximum ability; a road-legal track-day fun car.

 
Posted : 08/08/2025 11:46 pm
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I've loved cars ever since the mid-80s when I managed to sneak downstairs way past bedtime to watch Cannonball Run through the staircase rails. That love was only strengthened when I got a PS1 and Gran Turismo to distract me from studying at Uni in the 90s. 

At present I don't have a "supercar" per se and certainly wouldn't be regarded as "high-end luxury" but I guess it's an icon in its own right, and at about 700 bhp it can more than hold its own against actual supercars. Talk about there being nowhere to enjoy such a car in the UK I find somewhat lacking in imagination - there are plenty of places to do so legally and without being a hooligan, e.g. a (very) quick spurt from 20-60 coming off a roundabout next to someone wanting to test the legs of their hot hatch, and it is an entirely different experience heading down a deserted NSL road in the Highlands in my car vs my wife's car - but for me it's also the engagement and enjoyment it brings out in the general public. Kids wave, old people comment on the noise (in a good way), enthusiasts give the thumbs up and a beep when they hear the supercharger whine. It's also a very composed long distance GT car, decent luggage space and respectable 30+ mpg on the motorway. All in all I love it, but it's definitely not a car for wallflowers.

On the other hand it is very much one of the last of its kind, or at least it should be, and I find I'm driving it less and less as I feel pangs of guilt the more EVs I see on the roads. At the moment I'm squaring away the guilt with the thought that any potential buyer I might find now is likely to be a climate change denier and would be driving it 5x as much as I do, so by keeping it I'm actually reducing its carbon footprint. My eye is on the EV market though.

 
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With you 100% OP

In my youth I used to love cars.

Now I think owning show off cars, particularly supercars, hyper cars or anything ostentatiously "luxury" just marks you out as a bellend completely out of tune with reality for most people and also the state of the planet.

I would still quite like a ratty track car I could spanner myself and rag round a track (not on the road!) but I don't have the time nor a garage, so not happening any time soon.

Sure it’s not a price tag thing? 

 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 5:49 am
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I'm 'lucky' enough to have driven a late 80's Countach (LP500) on an old RAF airfield in Bicester. It was hot, difficult to see out of in other direction other than forwards, difficult to get in and out of, and the petrol vapours from the V12 sitting 20cms behind your head were enough to make driving it for more than 15 minutes a genuinely hallucinogenic experience. The controls were clearly out of the Fiat parts bin, It did, however, look amazing - which is essentially the point of cars like this. They're the modern equivalent of the orangery. - look at me, I've enough money to spend to grow oranges in the winter in Gloucester. You wouldn't want to draw up outside the Casio in Monaco in a Juke now, would you? Plus in comparison to Yachts - the other way dicks who've too much money measures themselves, they're waaaay less polluting. 

 
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The idea that super/hyper cars are better engineered than others is nonsense - if you want a well engineered car you buy a Toyota.  These cars are made in low volume therefore there is not enough budget for the level and depth of engineering design and validation that you would get in a high volume car.  Fast does not equal well engineered! 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 6:44 am
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Place for them? On track! However for many Hypercars are investments and they get driven far far less than your average car.

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 6:55 am
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Sure it’s not a price tag thing? 

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that

 
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I have ridden motorbikes that are slow by motorbike standards and it can still be a frustrating experience on UK roads as you can't open them up. It's more about keeping a lid on it tbh. I would imagine that would be amplified X10 000 in a super car.

If someone gave me a Ferrari upper Fandango whatever, I'd give it a quick razz and then sell it straight away and keep my Dacia. Local bike shop and motorbike shop would do well though

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 6:59 am
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Unless you ride a rigid, 3x7 steel MTB, I'm not sure you can argue that supercars are unnecessary or ostentatious. 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 7:07 am
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Depends where you live IMO - a supercar in the south of France fits in perfectly.

Driving round Chorley in a supercar you look a bit if a cock!

Anyway - my wedding day in Oct 1990 - my future father-in-law knew a bloke who knew a bloke and wangled this!… 😀

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Posted : 09/08/2025 7:08 am
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Unless you ride a rigid, 3x7 steel MTB, I'm not sure you can argue that supercars are unnecessary or ostentatious. 

 

Not sure that argument works, my on one whippet compared to a  Ferrari? 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 7:12 am
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So many vehicles on the road are totally unnecessarily large show off machines and super cars are just the top of the pile in that respect, wouldn't have one even if I had lottery money to spare. As quoted by a mate who'd had all sorts of fast cars "made me feel like a **** driving it"

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 8:39 am
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Used to like them when I was twenty.  These days I just think people who drive them look like tossers.

 
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The idea that super/hyper cars are better engineered than others is nonsense

Ford's wet belt has entered the chat. 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 8:50 am
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I love supercars, makes me happy when I see one on the road* to be honest, it just appeals to the child in me. On the flip side, I despise with a passion any form of w**k panzer.

 

*where "on the road" does not = being driven like a tool round Knightsbridge.

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 8:56 am
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I did a track day once with the chance to drive a range of supercars. Nothing mental, just a Ferrari 430, Lamborghini Gaillardo, Porsche 911 Turbo and a Lotus Evora 

It absolutely ruined driving normal cars for me.

The speed and the noise was insane. Did the Ferrari first and I was giggling the entire time. It was sad realising I'll never own one

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 8:57 am
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Super cars aren't exclusively for dick heads are they?

Back in the noughties I did a home visit to a screeder who had a new-ish Ferrari in his barn. Nice chap and quite down to earth.

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 9:05 am
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Then at the other end of the scale we with have steam and tractor enthusiasts! I've been dragged around many tractor fest by my Dad (after one of which, later that evening went to an all night rave 🤣 oh the contrast). I enjoy the steam/tractor fests now, walking along the rows of standing engines chugging along is quite an ASMR experience, and love a good fairground organ! 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 9:20 am
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It appears I'm "morally bankrupt" as I have a car just for fun. Fortunately I don't understand what morally bankrupt means but I suspect it wasn't a compliment.

As for the original post I hope there's always a place for supercars.

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 9:30 am
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I used to want one.
Then I saw this!

https://youtube.com/shorts/2D_SGkqDmno?feature=shared

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 9:43 am
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I used to play fantasy garage with friends - there would be a Dino, a Zonda, an RS4 estate and whatever took my fancy that week. One of the friends went through various fast things - late 80s Esprit, Elise, Exige, Ferrari 328, WRS, Evo IV, 911, Ferrari 430. Now he's considering going carless.

My fantasy garage would now be something small and electric as a run around (R5?), a bigger electric thing that could take a couple of bikes, and maybe something older and interesting. Always liked the Maserati Granturismo. But I'd need the space to park them too.

 
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The lister xjs on Harry's garage did 2 mpg if you floored it, 6 litre supercharged.  Think it managed 10mpg on a run.

 
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This thread reminds me of:

 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 12:07 pm
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I fancy a Lamborghini Miura and/or a McLaren F1 because they both look gorgeous. At 6'4", I doubt I could fit in either though, which is fortunate for me as I don't have the cash...

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 4:14 pm
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Financially I could have something quite interesting in the garage but there's a Zoe, and I love it. My youth was spent rallying autotesting trialling. and hanging around Aldon and Rolling Road Autotune. My status as a champion meant owners would often ask me to try their cars so I drove some interesting things. Interesting maybe but it was only the raw competition cars that really did it for me. Super cars, mehh. I was offered a drive in a 6R4 but turned it down telling the owner the local roads were unsuitable and the cam belt would probably break - it did shortly after.

Best of the lot: The RRAT owner, Graham Hickman's (he of F1 up Shelsley fame) G4 Escort "TUM". So if I were to spend a big sum on a "super car" it would be a  replica of Hannu's Eaton Vale Escort (or Marku Alen's 131). And spend the money saved over a super car on hiring forests to drive it in. I had a look at the cost of buying my favourite car that I rallied, the Group N Samba - 35 000e for a good one, no ta. Classic rally cars a fetching stupid money and require constant fettling unlike the Zoe that gets turned on like a microwave oven (shut the door press the button) and goes.

Most of the cars I regard as "super" are in this video:

 

 
Posted : 09/08/2025 5:55 pm
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Sometimes the context in which you experience things has a bearing on what appeals but....

Don't know if it would count as a supercar but..... a Corvette Stingray C3 427 ci (preferably with T-top). Takes me back to regular work trips to Austin Tx where a work colleague (and good friend) would pick me up in the Austin summer heat and take me for a ride and back to his house in Hill Country. Very evocative and I've always lusted after one.

 
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I drove a hardtop one of those, masterdabber, or was it the earlier one. Sloppy steering, inadequate brakes, broke traction flooring the throttle in 2nd, rattled and shook, crazed fibreglass, what a laugh.

 
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So if I were to spend a big sum on a "super car" it would be a  replica of Hannu's Eaton Vale Escort (or Marku Alen's 131). And spend the money saved over a super car on hiring forests to drive it in

Nice choice but I'm not sure there would be much money left over. Anyway, I agree, those 70s Gp4 cars are indeed "super". EARS in Macclesfield ran a couple of very swift Escorts in road rallies. Great way to spend the dark winter Saturday nights.

 

PS Great video - even got the Fiat back seat navigator - which I believe was extremely uncomfortable.

 
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Was behind a LHD Delta Integrale on the M6 this afternoon. That's going on the list....

 
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I have a memory of being a kid on route to a family holiday destination on the motorway seeing a yellow Lotus bomb it past us REALLY FAST!! I knew it was a Lotus because - as I remember it - it had LOTUS written in big letters across the back - but I can't find any images which look similar.

Just read on Wikipedia about the Esprit (another car I used to like when young) that "Door handles from the Morris Marina/Austin Allegro were used until the S4 model in 1994" lol. I did drive an old Austin Allegro for a while, was embarrassed at first, but grew to quite like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Let's keep em going.  Sound if anything.  My current van is faster than any hot hatch from the 90's and sounds like a taxi, but goes like poop off a shovel. Doesn't sound like a washer on a fast spin. So a win.

 
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Here's my 'super car' most of the sensations without the big bills 😀 20250709_165352.jpg 

 
Posted : 10/08/2025 7:45 am
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I've never been a fan of american sports cars, oldskool muscle aside but you don't by them for the speed or handling...

Until I started playing forza horizon 5 - the Corvette zr-1 is on my list!!!

 

 

 

 
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I wish that they weren’t a thing.  I don’t want to be judgmental about them and I get that some people just like them even if they will never have one, but I don’t like them and never have. 

They aren’t very numerous and I guess many of them are hardly used so the aggregate impact of their existence is probably smaller than that of other cars.  There is a kind of symbolism though on numerous level (conspicuous wealth and consumption, car worship and motornormativity and all that) and I don’t warm to it… although there are probably (mainly pointless) arguments to be had about it all. 

In practical terms I don’t like them because they are noisy, smelly, often driven aggressively and they are very wide so take up the whole county lane (and people won’t put them in the brambles in the hedge to let others past). 

There are other things I dislike as much or more… power boats with big engines and jet skis come to mind and seem to appeal to the same users. 

 

 
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The thing where cars have become 'status symbols', 'lifestyle adornments', 'a nice place to be' etc, in general instead of just being practical transportation devices is absurd, 'super cars' are the same thing on steroids. A mountain biking mate of mine had some sort of bright red Ferrari, it was noisy, uncomfortable, useless as practical transport and nowhere near as exciting as any number of infinitely more affordable fast motorbikes. 

Owning it also gave people the impression that he was an over-moneyed, superficial idiot, which he absolutely wasn't. Or at least that wasn't at the core of who he was. I think he'd bought it out of curiosity and a slightly misplaced sense of proving to himself that he was 'successful'. He sold it a year or so later and didn't miss it at all. 

I get that some people absurdly dedicate their otherwise normal lives to acquiring such a thing, but mostly they seem like a lifestyle accessory for people who have ridiculous amounts of spare money and can't think of anything better to do with it. 

TLDR: buy a very fast motorcycle instead and spend the considerable cash savings on something else that doesn't scream 'cock!'

 
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Buying the thing is only part of the cost...the servicing, parts and insurance is enough to make me run for the hills!

And considering they will eat tyres for breakfast at £300+ a pop too... nope!

 
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You don't think superfast bike doesn't mean the same? It's a lifestyle accessory - look how tough I am !

Don't particularly covet a supercar as it's not going to be very super in a country with low speed limits and very twisty, tight roads.  Taycan sportwagen would be handy tho'

 

 
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I think the vintage supercar is where it is at, if I won the lottery it would be an E type, a Healy 3000, ac cobra and Ferrari dino. I am probably too big and old for all of them, but they do look beautiful. Modern supercars look pretty shit, and there is the chance of being mistaken for Stephen Ireland.

 

 

 
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oh, I wouldn't mind something like an ariel nomad for Nurburgring visits, does that count as a supercar.

 
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Judging by the number of "Win this car for £x" competitions on the internet there are still lots of people that like the idea of having a supercar although I would bet most winners take the cash alternative as having a Lambo parked outside your modest semi would look a bit daft.

I do know a guy with a recent 911, nice but not a super supercar, who has been pestered by "influencers" to let them use his car in their videos. He also gets pestered in prom season and it drives him nuts. 

I cannot really see the point on our congested roads. I guess the drivers can at least see what is in front of them unlike some of the larger SUVs that are now so common.

 
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Got to go, Harry's doing a road trip in his McLaren.

 
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useless as practical transport and nowhere near as exciting as any number of infinitely more affordable fast motorbikes.

 

This^^

When it comes to fast bikes, I am old and smart enough to know better, but they are still the thing I get most excited about if nice roads and speed are involved. 👍 😊

Anything supercar like, it would (for me) have to be a track day.

 
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The Corvettes C8 stunning in real life, I quite fancy one but  they are still a bit on the pricey side 🙂

 
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Judging by the number of "Win this car for £x" competitions on the internet there are still lots of people that like the idea of having a supercar although I would bet most winners take the cash alternative as having a Lambo parked outside your modest semi would look a bit daft.

Theres some stupidly priced semis nowadays 🙂

The problem is they would struggle with the upkeep, yearly servicing and insurance would be a nightmare.

 
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TLDR: buy a very fast motorcycle instead and spend the considerable cash savings on something else that doesn't scream 'cock!'

Doesn't even have to be a "very fast" motorbike, just back from a weekend away in Swansea, traffic jams didn't bother me, narrow roads didn't bother me, motorhomes didn't bother me and cost about 10p per mile in fuel, only downside was choosing where to park that didn't involve worrying about it getting nicked over the weekend, but that's just another reason to have a 10yo dull honda that only cost me £4k 🙂

 

 
Posted : 10/08/2025 8:00 pm
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I'd have something if the numbers come up - Lotus Elise for a small win or GM T.50 for a big one. Then I am a bit of an unrequited car nut. I'd have a pretty significant collection of classics and race cars.   Don't see anything fundamentally wrong with them.  They don't do much mileage really and they're a bit of fun. you can only drive one thing at a time. 

Having said that I really don't get the point of Lambos or Zondas of any of the other ridiculous pen1s extension type things.  They just make you look ridiculous.

 

 
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Hypothesis:

A lot of innovation happens in motorsports as manufacturers need too eek out every bit of weight saving, fuel economy, aero, etc.

That then trickles down to the road legal racing car /super car and eventually bits of it into your average family wagon.

Not the only factor driving innovation in road cars sure... But it's got to be a significant contributor?

 
Posted : 11/08/2025 1:45 pm
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I've always found the engineering of them fascinating

But, I don't really like the modern trend of truly ridiculous performance.  They just seem to be chasing absolutely massive numbers, Ferraris and Lamborghinis with close to 1000bhp from factory, just seems completely pointess.  Maybe its as a result of trying to raise their appeal vs massively powerful EVs?

If i had a big lottery win I'd have a Lexus LFA, failing that a 911 Turbo

 
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No.  They're pointless and are only about vanity.  As for engineering - pah. Engineering should have a purpose other than fluffing up some rich git.

If you want fast, get a racing car. If you want luxury, get a luxury car.  These things are nothing more than obscenely rich person's top trumps.  They want you to think they're posh but really they're trashy.

Flame on

 
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No, not interested. Yeah, a Countach looks good on a poster...if you are 10, but if I had a lottery win, still no. But lets assuming I had won the lottery, and all the useful things that could be done with cash had happened... and there was still a supercar size wodge left over.. then I would buy something much cheaper, a year of training, race entry, support and racing on proper tracks against folk in the same car, eg Caterham Acadamy or similar. Ie learn something, do some actual motorsport and not just posing in a supercar.

 
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He also gets pestered in prom season and it drives him nuts. 

He live in the States? 

 

If not tell em to do one.

 
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I am honestly quite happy with my van. I've tried fast cars and, almost without exception, I am too tall to enjoy being in one. If I want to go fast and scare myself, I'll take my ratty Suzuki Bandit out which, despite being old and slow is still fast enough to scare me.

 
Posted : 11/08/2025 2:34 pm
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No.  They're pointless and are only about vanity.  As for engineering - pah. Engineering should have a purpose other than fluffing up some rich git.

 

I think the ‘influencer’ culture has made this worse.

 
Posted : 11/08/2025 3:49 pm
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These days it's getting a little insane, 1000 bhp for half million pound cars that's just totally unusable on an proper road. 

I'd happily buy something like a Ferrari 430 if I won the lottery, not interested in some daft hybrid monster

I have a boxster which despite having less horsepower than a top end golf is already faster than I'd ever need, and great fun on a b road.

That said, I'd make an exception for a zonda. The greatest looking car ever made, inside and out 

 

 
Posted : 11/08/2025 9:46 pm
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If you want scary fast buy a big motorbike.

If you want flashy and very cool buy a supercar. I'd have a Lamborghini Countach, a Ferrari F40 or a Maclaren F1 or a Gordon Murray T50. The rest don't interest me.

In reality they're mostly about vanity and showing off. A bit of an anachronism these days.

I have a replica of my favourite ever car (Lotus 7) that I enjoy working on and driving so I'm all done until that Lottery win comes around 😎 🤣 

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 8:24 am
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i'm glad they exist, as it keeps me in a job (carbon composite industry producing various parts for various super car makers).

Most modern super cars dont do much for me, but the classics are still cool. F40, F1, 959, stuff like that.

But as boring as it might be, i'd rather have a modern hot hatch, quicker down a b road and more practical.

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 10:47 am
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@TheFlyingOx - ooh, what car do you have? Mustang or Jag type thing?

 

Given 'all the money' I wouldn't buy a traditional supercar, but I WOULD love an Arial Atom, with the K20a engine... Would be GREAT fun as I'd use more of the money on track and 'ring trips!

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I'd rather have a quick saloon/estate or hot hatch in reality but glad they exist. The F1, F40, XJ220 and big V12 Lambos were poster cars for me as a kid. Given ALL OF THE MONEY I'd probably have a silly fleet tucked away. 

My 14 year old Caddy will have to do for now though.

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 11:48 am
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I'm very lucky in that my best mate has had all the nicest and fastest cars so the desire for me to get something "fancy" to impress my friends has been snuffed out. 

And I'm tickled by how much he enjoyed chugging up to West Kirby in my 15 year old Vivaro when he couldn't squeeze his windsurfer into the Aventador.  We now do the same in my 8 yr old Passat estate. (after abingham of this parish bought the van - hope you enjoyed it Andrew!).

But now the thing that I envy about his recent motors is the ability to drive on our motorway network at 70mph without the constant tyre noise.  That's the thing I'll be trying to emulate in my next purchase, when the Passat conks out.

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 12:07 pm
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the ability to drive on our motorway network at 70mph without the constant tyre noise

That's why I spent time and a lot of effort replacing all the suspension components in my old Merc - to make it as smooth and quiet as it would have been when it was new. I think I've managed it reasonably well.  I can't afford a new one so the best I can hope for is a renovated old one!

Given unlimited money I might opt for the quietest car available this side of a Rolls Royce Spectre - which is probably a Merc EQS.

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 12:41 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp948xjkpkdo

Obviously super car owners are a bunch of criminals.

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 5:45 pm
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ooh, what car do you have? Mustang or Jag type thing?

Good guess. It's a 2017 Mustang with a whopping great 3.0L Whipple supercharger bolted onto it and the power/weight ratio has it rubbing shoulders with the Ferrari F50 and Pagani Zonda. It's ok being able to go but you need to be able to stop too so I've upgraded the brakes and suspension to cope with the additional oomph. The downside of the additional oomph is additional noise. Currently looking for one of those valved exhaust things so I can make it sound much less obnoxious when in polite company.

 

Pic in touring mode:

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I'm under no illusions that it's anything other than a tarted up Ford, but it doesn't half make me smile when I'm behind the wheel.

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 5:54 pm
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I got requested (on the back of a throwaway comment) to drive a mate’s DB11 back from Zurich to Yorkshire through some windy roads in the Vosges and Champagne so that was my itch well and truly scratched. I recently borrowed his Mrs Macan 4S electric for a prom night run and that thing was menkal 🤪

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 7:05 pm
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Given a 9 figure lottery win, I’d have lots of interesting cars, mostly super, from various decades. Have to say, mega power Leccy ones do nothing for me, they’d have to make a nice* noise

*nice would range from a smooth hum, to a tuneful zip, to straight up savagery

I might even learn to drive too.

 
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Posted by: TheFlyingOx

Currently looking for one of those valved exhaust things so I can make it sound much less obnoxious when in polite company.

I leave the back lane in electric mode in my M5 touring when it’s early in the morning and coming back when it’s late a night . Keeps the neighbours happy ( well apart from one who complains when he doesn’t hear the V8 burbling up the lane 🤣 )

Had a little straight line race against McLaren 570 last week on an old airfield . I was keeping up with it to around 120mph when I decided to brake first. Who needs supercars 😂

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 10:52 pm
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I got my supercar itch scratched at work. Someone else paid for it all. And i got paid. And trained.

Passing a police car going the other way in a not quite completely road legal V12 at full chat was what put a stop to it all.

Thankfully he didn't turn round to see what all the noise was. Or it would have been a very very long ban for me.

TBH, the engineering is actually relatively easy in high/super/hyper performance cars, because the first thing they do is remove all the bits that are difficult to achieve like cost, noise, fuel consumption, crash, reliability, service/cost of ownership. It's mainly just throwing time and money at the issues.

I can *easily* get 300+bhp/litre if i don't have to meet the same requirements as i do for a family saloon.

Even the cooling (a la Bugatti Chiron radiators) is easy if you're allowed to spend 4 days putting the cooling system together.

Takes about 20 minutes on a family saloon, including the fill.

 
Posted : 13/08/2025 12:07 pm
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