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You can post the same pictures as many times as you want binners, it will make zero difference.
I will continue, when appropriate, to post stuff like this:
https://insidecroydon.com/2021/11/10/croydon-at-centre-of-racism-allegations-over-council-homes/
In other design-related news, we’re still going for the big blocky fonts and capital letters but the primary colours have been replaced by a palette of black, red and white, because those colours have no negative connotations whatsoever when used to issue threatening messages to the populace from an increasingly authoritarian government
https://twitter.com/dines4dales/status/1640382648076959747?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Apparently they are going to use offshore accommodation barges to house refugees to save money on hotels.
I have no trouble with using accommodation barges, all the of the European based ones I have been on are perfectly comfortable.
However, I can't see how they can be cheaper than a Premier Inn or Travelodge?
Harbour fees, maintenance, fuel, safety certification etc. Far more complex than a shore based facility.
I think the cost is less important than the headlines about the asylum seekers being in ten star hotels and lurking around the neighbourhoods of respectable tory voting people.
However, I can’t see how they can be cheaper than a Premier Inn or Travelodge?
I wonder who owns the vessels? Follow the money time.
Also it's about local MP's complaining that desperate people are being housed in their constituencies.
“Prison boats” sounds Dickensian… there’s a base of voters for the Tories who like that kind of tough talk (Dickins wouldn’t be very happy to find that so many people still think this way… but he probably wouldn’t be at all surprised).
I wonder who owns the vessels? Follow the money time.
Once the season starts the vessels will be at !00% capacity. The Offshore Wind sector is booming and with the oil price back up there be even more demand.
It's absolute click bait nonsense again.
When asylum seekers we’re being dumped in damp flats in the very worst areas of deprived (labour voting) northern towns, as they have been for years, nobody gave a shit.
Now the numbers mean that they’re becoming visible in more affluent (Tory voting) constituencies suddenly there’s a desperate urgency to do something about it.
The ‘prison ship’ idea was deemed illegal last time they floated it (no pun intended). This time they say they’re going to get round that by registering them as hotels.
Well, I could attempt to register myself as a Ford Focus, but I doubt the law will then recognise me as a medium sized family vehicle
It’ll never happen but it’ll be more millions spent on legal challenges. Lawyers must love Cruella Andy this lot! Plenty of them must be funding their retirements out of their recent proposals.
They’ll probably put Chris Grayling in charge of procuring the boats, as that’s his specialist are, and we’ll be tens of billions down in no time, but still with no actual vessels
raab being interviewed on R4 Today was asked about 'accommodation barges' - blah, blah in response; was then asked about what these are, what they look like and when a photo would available.
No clear responses so interviewer then said...these barges don't exist, do they?
You could sense raab squirming.
As gobuchul posted ^^^ it's click bait.
I would expect a huge ramp up in these undeliverable, and polarising anti-migrant schemes in the run up to the local elections
After which they will all fall apart under the weight of reality
The Tories know that on inflation, the economy, teaching, potholes!, NHS, rail etc etc they are stuffed so culture war issues is they all they have
The current refugee-bashing that the government is engaging in isn't simply to distract attention away from real issues facing voters - cost of living crises, NHS waiting time, housing, etc
It is also an attempt to blame those seeking asylum for the government's failings in processing asylum claims.
This will never make the headlines in the way that Rwanda and the £6million a day spent on hotel accommodation does:
"The asylum system is broken, but not in the way Priti Patel claims,” Alasdair Mackenzie, an immigation and asylum lawyer, told openDemocracy. “It's broken in that it increasingly fails to do its job of deciding claims fairly and swiftly, and she has presided over that.”
“Ministers have prioritised headline-grabbing measures aimed at making it harder for people to get asylum in the UK, or at deterring them from applying in the first place, whilst neglecting their most basic ministerial function of making the existing system work properly.”
So it is also about making excuses for their own incompetence over the issue, not just a distraction from all the real problems affecting voters.
When asylum seekers we’re being dumped in damp flats in the very worst areas of deprived (labour voting) northern towns, as they have been for years, nobody gave a shit.
Now the numbers mean that they’re becoming visible in more affluent (Tory voting) constituencies suddenly there’s a desperate urgency to do something about it.
This is totally wrong. The rEfuGeE cRiSiS is a Tory attempt to win back working class voters in a way that doesn't require any preparation or strategy or planning. Bang em up! Send em home! Sleep on barges! Pick those fruits! Plane to Rwanda! It's not because wealthy Tory towns are being affected more than before.
PS when people talk about "asylum seekers flooding our towns" and blow dog whistles, they're talking about a maximum of 1.6 per thousand inhabitants. The asylum system in this country is a shitshow, but it's not the cause of failing NHS, expensive property, underfunded schools...
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/where-do-migrants-live-in-the-uk/
It is all of these things, everywhere, all at once
What it most certainly isn't is a serious attempt to actually deal with the issue
Ex army barracks? Former RAF bases? Student halls? Now cruise ships? Rwanda? What next? Portacabins on the moon?
The bottom line is that they haven't got a ****ing scooby what to do with these people other than throw non-starters of ideas out there as chaff and throw some racism in to keep their base happy.
The problem, as Ernesto has pointed out, is that the system is an absolute shambles presided over by utter incompetents who couldn't run a bath. All these things are just increasingly desperate attempts at distraction from that glaringly obvious fact
SQUIRREL!
We are literally half a step away from the pet ASBO episode of The Thick Of It
'Honest Bob' Jenrick is due to make a parliamentary statement after PMQ's about their latest proposals to 'stop the boats' so we may get there today
Edit: Hang on a minute. I've just seen this from Britains leading intellectual powerhouse...
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1640753346167406609?s=20
You know what, with all the airtime and government energy expended on the "migration crisis" you'd think that everyone's lives are impacted daily by immigration.
There not been a day in my life when I've headed up to bed and thought, "man, what a day, it's been utterly ruined due to immigrants." Not one day.
I brought this up with a guy that was actually saying on Twitter that he would willingly shoot immigrants arriving on the beaches. I asked him why he hated them so much, how had they impacted his life? He was stumped.
Know what he came up with in the end? Too many "immigrants" on soap operas and on tv adverts. I kid you not.
What he really meant was, non white people of course, born here or not, they were "immigrants". It was enlightening. He had literally self radicalised with the aid of SM and the current government.
There not been a day in my life when I’ve headed up to bed and thought, “man, what a day, it’s been utterly ruined due to immigrants.” Not one day.
@Poopscoop. I was recently delivered a talking to by my father about how I must walk around with my eyes closed or choose not to see the problems caused by all these immigrants in the UK. He lives in Spain and gets all his information from the internet. My response to him was exactly as you stated here. He, along with many others of his generation are being bloody radicalised by the interweb FFS!
Cruella sat this one out today, presumably to avoid her now traditional ritual humiliation at the hands of Yvette Cooper.
Instead it was over to Honest Bob* and we're back to disused army and air force bases today, after yesterdays boats. They're obviously alternating the two announcements on a daily basis nowadays. I wonder what it'll be tomorrow? Caves? Hot air balloons?
In other news: Foreign secretary James Cleverly is backing legal proceedings opposing Home Secretary Suella Bravermans proposal to house asylum seekers in his Essex constituency, as are other Tory MPs in Lincolnshire
You really couldn't make it up. What a bunch of ****ing clowns
https://twitter.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1641044205563781128?s=20
* Imagine looking at yourself in the mirror in the morning and realising your only purpose in life is to be human shield to Suella Braverman
Edit: Hang on a minute. I’ve just seen this from Britains leading intellectual powerhouse…
Interesting that the quote isn't the caption exactly
"I personally have no issue with portacabins or tents being used" to house asylum seekers
Raab on R4 pointedly and repeatedly didn't use the phrase asylum seekers. He used the phrase 'illegal immigrants', as i suspect Gullis would as well. I suspect there's a mandate to use that as a stock phrase simply because it does stick, even if it isn't true,
There not been a day in my life when I’ve headed up to bed and thought, “man, what a day, it’s been utterly ruined due to immigrants.” Not one day.
That needs putting on t-shirts and posters around the land.
Or on a bus, if it reaches the target audience
We're at the 'Daily Mail Sadface' period of this government now. Honestly beyond ridicule.
He, along with many others of his generation are being bloody radicalised by the interweb FFS!
Yep it’s really weird how nasty/bitter some of them get,I actually think the worst people on Facebook groups are actually the oaps.
I watch a lot of the Spanish ones with regards to residency visas/driving licences and the the number of ‘nasty’comments is staggering the ‘I’m ok and it’s all your own fault’, they seem to exhibit zero empathy.
I suppose thou a muppet is always going to be a muppet,regardless of age.
Gary Lineker used Nazi slurs to smear my wife....
And the Jewish Council for Racial Equality used Nazi slurs to smear the Daily Mail, according to Jewish News:
The Jewish Council for Racial Equality (JCORE) said it “is horrified by comments made in Parliament yesterday by the Home Secretary.
“It is disgraceful to see a government minister repeating the language of the far-right, and referring to people fleeing conflict and torture, including child refugees, as an “invasion”.
“To many British Jews, such appalling language is sadly familiar. In 1938, the Daily Mail condemned “the way stateless Jews from Germany are pouring into this country.”
Obviously "many British Jews" doesn't include Rael Braverman, and he is perfectly happy that his wife uses language similar to that of the 1930s pro-Nazi Daily Mail, indeed he will even defend her right to do so.
Hmm I like the ‘nazi slurs’ that never happened that he’s incensed about.
I can’t get my head around a child of refuges and a child who lost family in the holocaust supporting batshit crazy immigration policies.
Can we apply for retroactive deportation for them to Rwanda.
It really isn’t worth the time or the effort to explain to these numpties that he didn’t actually accuse anyone of being a Nazi
They’re fully aware he didn’t, obviously, but it’s all part of their culture war agenda
Mr Braverman should know that the Holocaust happened in the 1940's, not the 1930's.
He should also know that the Holocaust was the Nazi's plan B. In the 30's, plan A for the Nazi's was to make the Jews of Europe stateless and deport them to an African country, (Madagascar to be precise)
If you think there's too many asylum seekers in the UK, what you should support is a functioning home office that can handle applications in a reasonable timescale and do it reliably.
The share of asylum applications that received an initial decision within six months fell from 87% in Q2 2014 to 6% in Q2 2021. That'd be astonishing if you didn't know it was deliberate, with the 6 month service being removed in 2019 and the detained fast track system removed in 2015.
44% of all asylum appeals are succesful. That figure alone says the system's broken, the inital decision (which as mentioned now almost always takes over 6 months) is barely more dependable than tossing a coin.
Those are not failures- they're the result of policies mostly championed by Theresa May, who wasn't as blatantly awful as Braverman but who on the other hand was actually getting bad stuff done. Pretty much everything she did in office was designed to reduce the capabilities of the home office, border force etc while driving up complexity. Seems mad but here we are 10 years on and it's worked- the system's collapsed, beyond the point where we have any idea how to fix it, and the headlines that result are all about small boats and tories Getting Tough On Immigration. God, think of the good old days of Michael Howard.
It's not worked for anyone else except for the tory party, the hate media and some contracters. It's terrible for asylum seekers of course but it also costs us a fortune. If you're a xenophobe you should be furious, if you thought the tories would do something about what you see as a problem you should be incandescent that they've spent a decade carefully making it worse. But if you're a humanitarian you should be just as angry, and the same if you have an actual brain.
And yep we are 18th in the EU+ in terms of accepting asylum seekers. Though admittedly that figure doesn't include all of those people trapped in the byzantian process.
I know most people on here know this stuff but still, bears repeating.
I hadn’t realised that Braverman is at risk from the boundary changes… she might not get the Conservative nomination in the new seat that’s replaces her current one. She might join the list of MPs looking for a “safe” seat somewhere.
It’s not worked for anyone else except for the tory party, the hate media and some contracters
You can add lawyers to that list
It’s terrible for asylum seekers of course but it also costs us a fortune. If you’re a xenophobe you should be furious
I’d love to see the figures for how much the government have spent on the legal costs involved in defending the indefensible? Policies like Rwanda, which they know will fall apart at the first legal challenge, but they plough ahead with anyway, purely to ‘send out a message’
It must be costing billions!
And as you’ve noted, what’s worse is they know full-well that these things offer no actual solutions, so while they carry on with their reverse-virtue-signalling the problem just gets worse and worse.
These are peoples actual lives they’re playing games with!
"Those are not failures- they’re the result of policies"
As much as people on here "know this stuff" this bears repeating. Again and again.
If this is a 'problem' at all then it is a problem of the Governments own making.
Always good to make a mess* and claim that only you have a plan to clean it up. Doesn’t really work without plenty of media support though. Will they stick with it…? (Sadly, the answer is most likely yes)
[ *deliberately in my opinion, but that’s only opinion ]
Hmmmnnn. Home Secretary of Indian Hindu descent ignores one of the findings of her own department's report to demonise UK ****stani Muslims. Who'd have thunk it?
The government line is now indistinguishable from Tommy Robinson and the EDL. That’s the point we’re now at folks. That’s the inevitable destination of their culture war
https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1642452195508461569?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”
Suella Braverman on Port of Dover delays:
"I don't think that is fair to say that this is an adverse effect of Brexit"
The CEO of Dover Ports:
"The difference of living in a post-Brexit environment means that every passport needs to be checked before a vehicle or passenger can pass through to the EU through France. And that happens here in Dover. So it does make processing more challenging".
This obviously played well with the racists this morning so they’ve gone all in and Tommy Robinson now appears to be writing government policy
https://twitter.com/suellabraverman/status/1642578585062965250?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Let's not mention that statistically, vulnerable kids are more at risk from their white family members than foreign grooming gangs.
But then you'd have to fund children's services properly to address it, rather than slash funding for 12 years and leaves thousands of kids at risk
Let’s not start letting inconvenient facts be getting in the way of some good, old fashioned dog whistle foghorn racism
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/teachers-face-jail-grooming-gangs-reporting/
"Teachers, doctors and nurses could face jail if they ignore signs of grooming gangs' sexual abuse of children under new plans".
I didn't even realise that the unreporting of child sexual abuse by teachers and doctors was a significant problem, I'm not sure what the role of nurses is in all of this.
But the message it sends out is very clear - we don't trust your professional integrity. And since you might end up in jail if don't notice signs of child sexual abuse your best bet is to throw accusations of paedophilia against people without thinking too much of the consequences.
And since you might end up in jail if don’t notice signs of child sexual abuse your best bet is throw accusations of paedophilia against people without thinking too much of the consequences.
Because of course the Police, social services, courts and fostering sectors will be fully resourced to cope with these additional allegations*
Where will we put the kids? All the cruise ships and Rwandan hostels will be full of illegal migrants....
*I doubt many more cases will be reported, most people do report suspicions already. So another headline grabbing waste of time.
It’s not sinister at all, is it?
And certainly makes a mockery of Gary Linekers comparison with 1930’s Germany, with which it has not a single similarity. Thank God Suellas husband spoke out against that!
Still, I guess this fine racial specimen will be pleased to hear that the Home Secretary is doing something about interracial law and muslamic infidels trying to put down Iraqi law in our country, and make Britian about British again.
That's gotta be a wind-up/voice over or something 🤣
Wtf is a rape cannon? Ray guns or rape cannon? Equally surreal whatever. If I were boss of a far-right organisation I would ban that young gentleman from talking to the press. Bullyboy duties only for you young lad. And stay off the skunk.
Teachers, doctors and nurses already have a professional responsibility to report any concerns (of any type) to relevant 'external' agencies.
Criminalising those who don't do so (usually due to workload rather than intent) will not change anything on the ground.
The issue is what happens (or doesn't happen) after those reports are made. All those agencies are beyond full stretch.
I guess though, it's easier to throw blame at the public sector than try to fund it properly...
Othering is the modus operandi of the current government...
The Mirror is leading with an interesting expenses story about Suella... Unfortunately most of the other papers are loving the 'war on woke' BS.
There can be very real impacts from the demonisation of certain sectors of society.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-64950862
Not that the tories give a flying **** about the hatred they spread as long as long as they get power and the rich get richer.
Such a depressing story that.
Suella Braverman on Port of Dover delays:
“I don’t think that is fair to say that this is an adverse effect of Brexit”The CEO of Dover Ports:
“The difference of living in a post-Brexit environment means that every passport needs to be checked before a vehicle or passenger can pass through to the EU through France. And that happens here in Dover. So it does make processing more challenging”.
Everyone knows its Brexit. Pre-Brexit, passport checks at Dover involved waving everyone through and onwards into mainland Europe. Brexit kicks in and changes all that - personified by a quote from the French border control over the weekend who essentially shrugged their shoulders and said something along the lines of "bof, we are not aware of any problems at the border". And why should they be? Now we're not part of the EU its the same as going through passport control if flying to the States etc.
As if I couldn't hate the Tories/Braverman anymore than I already did, I had a child on a coach at Dover over the weekend. Meant to be 0000 sailing on Saturday and eventually left at around 0000 yesterday - 24 hours (not this 4 hours reported by the BBC etc) waiting at Dover with very little supoprt in terms of food and water. Just hope a school trip he's been looking forward to for the last 6 months turns out to be as good as he was hoping it'd be once they actually get to Austria... they're already missing 1 day skiing.
But yes, Cruella, 24 hour queues at Dover definitely isn't due to Brexit and the fallout from that.
Simon Calder (the travel journalist) was all over the telly all weekend essentially saying "The is directly because of Brexit, we voted for exactly this version of a very hard border, and when further checks are introduced in November it will only get worse"
I can't believe that the BBC (or other news channels) are even reporting the bull**** she's coming out with. This is top level gaslighting of the entire nation and surely only hard core Brexiteers are believing any of it?!
Looks like Tommy Robinson really is writing government policy nowadays
https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1642811400224423937?s=20
Interesting that they've been in power for 13 years and shown no interest in it until now and are doing it when the continued underfunding of social work and the care system continues
The Guardian were reporting last week that kids in care are being essentially dumped hundreds of miles away from their communities which is obviously leaving them as obvious targets for grooming. And lets not forget that the private companies running these care homes are making an absolute fortune while providing a truly appalling level of 'care'
Possibly why they took ten years to nick it from Starmer?
Yup, as the article concluded:
However, the Department for Education said mandatory reporting was "not the answer" and there were no plans to change the law.
A spokesman for the department said: "Guidance is already crystal clear that professionals should refer immediately to social care when they are concerned about a child.
"Other countries have tried mandatory reporting and there is no evidence to show that it is a better system for protecting children. In fact there is evidence to show it can make children less safe."
So they knew that Starmer's suggestion was daft 10 years. However like Starmer they know the importance of feeding the press with rightwing talking points.
A quote from another barrister who knew Starmer well :
"Starmer’s enthusiasm while DPP for using mundane news events to feed the press with rightwing talking points is a possible concern for Labour members."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/16/keir-starmer-past-scrutiny
Political correctness isn't the problem, austerity led cuts by councils is. Teachers are already having to take the place of social workers... and on lower real term salaries and longer hours. We need more professionals in this area, that schools can call on.
What Kimbers said 100%, happens on repeat every time with the tories. A manifesto from them is such a waste of paper.
I can't see why the latest proposals would be quietly dropped.
A new taskforce of specialist officers sounds as if it might cost significant money so I could see that being quietly dropped.
But mandatory reporting, tougher sentences, and ethnicity data of suspects (not those convicted apparently) sounds doable.
Okay locking people up for longer costs money but that is one area that Tories always seem happy to spend money on.
Edit: I can easily see the current government implementing much of those policies and then come the general election proudly declaring how they are the ones that are tough on paedophiles.
Unlike presumably Labour.
The Guardian were reporting last week that kids in care are being essentially dumped hundreds of miles away from their communities which is obviously leaving them as obvious targets for grooming. And lets not forget that the private companies running these care homes are making an absolute fortune while providing a truly appalling level of ‘care’
MrsMC spent election night 2019 preparing a court report so a kid could be taken into care in a placement miles from their home area at a cost of several hundred pounds a week, which certainly wasn't being paid to the support staff. Had the local Surestart not been closed due to cuts, it would probably never reached that point.
Okay locking people up for longer costs money but that is one area that Tories always seem happy to spend money on.
Except they don't provide extra funds even for that, don't let them fool you
I'm not denying that the prison service is underfunded, but there is always enough money to keep people locked up. It's been a while since prisoners have been released because the government run out of money.
So they have a barge!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65172368
https://www.bibbymarine.com/bibby-stockholm/
Well the information is a little confusing, it can hold 500 "guests" but it's just been refitted to single berth for 220.
Although I know some accommodation modules can have extra bunks installed very easily.
The figures of £30,000 per day including port dues were mention on the radio. So about £130 per room, per night. Hardly a cost saving on a basic hotel.
It also currently in Italy, so at least 2 weeks away and more expense.
What a load of bollocks.
Its the same as the Rwanda nonsense though. The way its been sold, I'm sure that in the mind of the average racist half-wit they see many packed flights a day, laden with asylum seekers who've been marched straight from the coast to the airport and packed off to Africa, never to be seen again.
In reality it'll hold a couple of hundred people, tops, who will all mount legal challenges which will then take years and cost a fortune
Its not a realistic way to try and deal with the issue in any way, shape or form, but just a way of demonstrating you're being particularly nasty to the people you've been busy demonising.
If reporting regarding the barge is accurate, does this mean the Bibby family are complicit with the policy?
If they had any social conscience, they should -and would - say...go find another barge.
so at least 2 weeks away
Grand unveiling just before the local election vote?
And closed by year end?
does this mean the Bibby family are complicit with the policy?
At first I didn't think so, as they sold off Bibby Offshore a few years back, however this barge is operated by Bibby Marine, still in the Bibby Group.
Although you could argue that if this is inhuman for refugees, then why is it OK for offshore workers?
If reporting regarding the barge is accurate, does this mean the Bibby family are complicit with the policy?
If they had any social conscience, they should -and would – say…go find another barge.
There are a lot of people making a lot of money out of housing asylum seekers. In true Tory fashion I'm sure that, for all their very public protestations, they're busy funnelling that infamous £6 million a day costs into the pockets of their mates
Channel 4 news last night had a report on a local independent hotel who had signed an exclusive contract with the Home Office to house asylum seekers, cancelling weddings and events etc that had been pre-booked. If you're cancelling wedding bookings, surely a very lucrative business, then I doubt you'll be doing it out of a burning desire to host refugees. I'm sure that as with PPE contracts, theres an awful lot of profiteering going on
> https://www.bibbymarine.com/bibby-stockholm/ < Looking at the video in that link I fail to see the difference between that accommodation and a normal land based hotel. I just looks like a suspiciously expensive way to accommodate very few people. I can't see how it will benefit Suella Braverman's public approval ratings, or am I missing something obvious?
I can’t see how it will benefit Suella Braverman’s public approval ratings, or am I missing something obvious?
It keeps those pesky asylum seekers away from the natives. The channel 4 news piece I mentioned, on last night, featured a selection of nimby's who had started protesting outside the hotel, having already concluded (with the aid of Cruella's latest contribution to the debate, no doubt) that the asylum seekers housed their all listed their favourite activities as raping 13 year old white girls
Here you go Ernesto...
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1643183392236658688?s=20
I can’t see how it will benefit Suella Braverman’s public approval ratings, or am I missing something obvious?
Generally the sort of place you can dock that isnt the sort of place where lots of tory supporters live.
I think is about the only selling point.
Although given its Cruella I wouldnt rule out the plan is to get it loaded up and then sail it to Rwanda in the middle of the night (she hasnt spotted its landlocked).
A Leicester village is divided over a hotel housing asylum seekers.
Currently there over 35,000 people in hotels and hostels waiting for their asylum applications to be processed, I don't see how housing about 500 of them in a floating hotel will change things much.
Edit: I have just checked and the latest figure I can find is 45,500. So if they use the Biddy Stockholm they will only have 40,000 to worry about.
I can't help thinking that processing asylum applications quicker might be a more worthwhile solution.
I don’t see how housing about 500 of them in a floating hotel will change things much.
It won't make the slightest bit of difference whatsoever, and sending 200 of them to Rwanda will have even less effect. All at absolutely enormous cost, obviously.
But this isn't about finding solutions. Never has been. This is all about sending the message to racists that the government is on their side, seeing as they're not allowed to do what they'd really like to do which is to drive them all back into the sea
I can’t help thinking that processing asylum applications quicker might be a more worthwhile solution.
Don't be coming around here with your logical thinking and actual solutions! Theres no place for any of that crazy-talk in modern Britain!
Looking at the video in that link I fail to see the difference between that accommodation and a normal land based hotel.
In some respects it will be better, worse in others.
The risk assessment will be interesting, the people normally living on those barges will have had safety training. The refugees probably not, I would guess that they will need evacuation drills and potentially multiple access and egress points.
I just looks like a suspiciously expensive way to accommodate very few people.
Of course it is. Anything marine based costs far more than dry land, for obvious reasons. On top of the domestic staff for catering laundry etc. they will still some technical to operate other equipment, even if connected to shore supplies for electricity etc.
It's just a ****ing stupid idea, that makes no sense on some many levels. Unless you read the Mail or Express.
According to the Daily Mail a YouGov poll shows that the overwhelming majority of voters are completely unconvinced that the government's plans will do anything to resolve the problem.
Not only that but the number of people who are unconvinced has been growing since the 'let's get tough' proposals were first announced.
"On 8 March, the day after the PM announced legislation to toughen up Britain's asylum system, 26 per cent of voters thought it was likely Mr Sunak would be able to deliver, while 59 per cent thought it was unlikely.
But in a poll conducted between 29 and 30 March, just 21 per cent of people thought the PM would be able to deliver on his promise, with 63 per cent saying he was unlikely to be able to do so."
Of the five promises made by Rishi Sunak the "Stop The Boats" is the least attainable, voters know that, the other four are possibly doable.
He needs to stop talking about something that when the general election comes he will be judged as having failed. He needs to concentrate on the economy, I reckon his Australian advisor is probably telling him that.
I’m sure that as with PPE contracts, theres an awful lot of profiteering going on
Especially for the middlemen.
For some of the hotels I suspect a major advantage is the staffing needs or lack thereof.
Due to a certain event which cant be mentioned I think some hotel owners would be looking at the difficulty of making sure they have staff for all those weddings in 6 months and deciding this is a better option.
I should think they can reduce the standard of food offering, migrants being expected to accept rather less than a paying guest. Continuous occupancy must mean fewer bedlinen changes. If demand falls because of the CoL crisis, migrants become good business.
migrants become good business.
Does anyone know how these hotel deals work?
Do they simply rent the building and then pay Serco or similar to operate them?
Or does the original hotel management operate the hotel?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the 1st one and Serco are making an absolute killing.
ethnicity data of suspects
not sure if otherwise mentioned but Jess Phillips was interviewed on the news agents and reported that it's been found that, wait for it, ethnicity of offenders broadly reflects society as a whole.