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solidified bin juice in human form.
One of the finest non-sweary insults I've heard in a long time.
Looks like she’s now gone full Tommy Robinson and Braverman has now said the Met are ‘playing favourites’ with protests. The hardly subtle implication being that far right nutjobs should be given a light touch. She took the chance to have a pop at Black Lives Matter and other more liberal organisations while excusing the likes of Britain First
She really is a modern day Enoch Powell. She’s clearly instigating a massive kick off and deliberately fermenting civil unrest. She’s desperate for it to kick off this weekend.
The interview with the Times in which she said this would have had to be signed off with number 10, which means he either agrees with it or he’s such a shithouse that he won’t do anything to reign her in
How the **** is she still Home Secretary? She should never have been anywhere near an office like that in the first place, but after all this latest shit….
A British Home Secretary is deliberately undermining the police to bolster her leadership campaign. That’s insane!
https://twitter.com/yvettecoopermp/status/1722388423770542537?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Looks like she’s now gone full Tommy Robinson and Braverman has now said the Met are ‘playing favourites’ with protests. The hardly subtle implication being that far right nutjobs should be given a light touch.
Couldn’t believe what she's come out with now, literally putting the Met Police on a collision course with the government for no sane or justifiable reason.
She really is a modern day Enoch Powell.
I'm wondering if that's being harsh on Enoch - given their respective backgrounds, how the hell has she arrived at a similar position?
She’s clearly instigating a massive kick off and deliberately fermenting civil unrest. She’s desperate for it to kick off this weekend.
A few of us have said this, but at what point do her words and actions become a crime of incitement? Has this got the potential to be a Very British version of January 6th?
A British Home Secretary is deliberately undermining the police to bolster her leadership campaign. That’s dangerously insane!
FTFY
The Sun is joining in suggesting there are fewer poppy sellers due to fears of attacks from pro-Palestinian supporters.
Interesting that the i is reporting that she's gone too far for some Tory MPs, even they have a limit.
My best case scenario is that the Stop the War march is peaceful, Yaxley Lennon's boys get arrested, and the Press and Starmer spend next week skewering Braverman and Rishi for it.
and the Press and Starmer spend next week skewering Braverman and Rishi for it.
Unlikely. The press will still be on their side and Starmer doesn't want to rock any boats.
Posted this already but it's a shame to not make the most of my efforts.
I assume she's accepted the Tories will get eviscerated at the next GE so is positioning herself as the next leader once the Tories swing further to the right thinking that's what voters want (or because they have little choice now Labour is firmly centre-right under Starmer). Or she's just receiving back-handers from Israel.
It's just brazen shit stirring.
It's absolutely unbelievable that a Home Secretary would seek to undermine the police in the way Braverman has done.
https://twitter.com/DannyShawNews/status/1722317010242085087?t=5JWUjAP-cm3kSSvWjN2FPg&s=19
I heard snippets of the interview comments on another radio news show, the (ex-Met) police guy was very unimpressed by her words and actions.
Not sure they've managed to find a currently serving senior officer to go on record about it, I suspect that would be a career-ending move!
The other comment was about the police being held accountable, the response was that they didn't need that across the front pages, they were already accountable - they took the decisions on the day and there was every possibility of an inquiry further down the line, it didn't need Sunak shit-stirring as well.
The organiser of the Cenotaph events says the march should go ahead and he wouldn't want Remembrance Day to become some sort of fascist platform. Times Radio did an interview with John Rees of StW (on YT) but don't appear to have published it on their website. SB will have motivated even more people to turn out on Saturday. Meanwhile, Armrest flounders.
Starmer doesn’t want to rock any boats.
He needs to carefully choose which boats to rock, but forcing the PM to give a yes or no answer on whether he agrees with her comments at PMQs* is definitely a boat worth rocking.
Sadly, it really needs right wing protesters to kick off to truly have any impact.
*if only the Speaker would properly force an answer.
Lord Soames, who is Winston Churchill’s grandson, said: “Whether this march went ahead was always an operational matter, and was not a decision for either the prime minister or the home secretary. This was a decision for the Met commissioner, who knows how to do his job.
Not much shocks me any more with this lot, the level to which senior government figures will stoop never having been lower, but Bravermans latest outburst is gob-smacking
They’ve just voiced up her transcript on Radio 4 and there you have it… a British Home Secretary parroting the far right tropes so beloved of organisations like the EDL and Britain First.
As Johnathon Pie said, she’s no longer simply emboldening the far right, SHE IS the far right
I have no idea how they are going to 'manage' the Cenotaph if it's targeted.
The palestinian support march will never be closer than 2 miles to the cenotaph
the most likely to cause disorder are the far right. They are calling for it on GB news as is farage and Yaxly Lennon
What ever you do don't go looking at places like Pistonheads or Facebook, the right-leaning people are believing her crap. Plenty of people thinking she is fighting a biased MET and a media that is out to discredit her.
Going full Fascist is working for some people.
Imagine thinking the Met isn’t right wing enough.
It'd actually be funny if the implications weren't so serious
I have no idea how they are going to ‘manage’ the Cenotaph if it’s targeted.
As I understood it, it was never going to be "targeted" - the proposed march was nowhere close to it and Sunak started with "you should respect the sanctity of our Remembrancing by not having a march on this weekend".
Then somehow it became "they will be targeting our Cenotaph" and, as was the case where they managed to protect the Churchill statue, everyone has suddenly got very upset that another statue might somehow be "targeted".
Naturally the Britain First mob and the right-wing scum who like to virtue signal their Remembrancing by having ostentatious poppy displays and sombre expressions are stoking the outrage that anyone could possibly target Solumn Remembrancing - even though the proposed march wasn't near it.
What ever you do don’t go looking at places like Pistonheads or Facebook, the right-leaning people are believing her crap. Plenty of people thinking she is fighting a biased MET and a media that is out to discredit her.
I occasionally stumble across the comments to a Just Stop Oil post on Twitter or Facebook and the average response is something like "I would just drive over them if it weren't illegal" or "they need their heads kicking in". The Met has now adopted the German police technique of something called a "pain grip" and the Twitter brigade are asking if they can help.
The irony is that I think much of the far-right on Twitter (who also unironically pay China for a giant poppy to stick on their vans) would almost certainly have been those welcoming the Nazis into the country and supported (still support, in fact) their genocide of the Jews / gays / gypsies.
Braverman represents the worst of these people.
march on Sunday,
There is no march on Sunday; it's on Saturday. Not a nitpick - you have been confused by the deliberate conflation of Armistice Day and Remembrance Sunday.
It won't interfere with anything that happens at the Cenotaph, it won't clash with the ceremony that happens on Sunday every year. It won't even clash with the Armistice Day tradition of a 2 minutes silence at 11.00. Do you remember what you were doing on 11 November last year or the year before? No, me neither. Football is going ahead; Strictly is going ahead, but for some reason marching for peace should be banned. Go figure.
Cruella has been summoned to the House of Commons this morning to answer an urgent question about her recent statements to her opposition number Yvette Cooper.
Given that Cooper makes mincemeat of her whenever they face each other across the despatch box, and she does everything possible to avoid er, what do you reckon the chances are of her actually turning up?
We'll get 'Honest Bob' Jenrick or another one of her other little minions
Government: "We are Solumnly Remembrancing victims of past wars lest we forget the horror and tragedy"
Everyone: Umm...do you want to call for a ceasefire in the horrific and tragic current war in Gaza?!"
Government / far-right: "How dare you interrupt our Solumn Remembrancing! Keep away from Our Cenotaph! We shall Remember!"
The Sun is joining in suggesting there are fewer poppy sellers due to fears of attacks from pro-Palestinian supporters.<br /><br />
if there’s really a “shortage” of poppy sellers (I thought they were a donation 😉 ) then it’s probably got more to do with the appropriation of the poppy and the act of remembrance by the Britain’s First types and the likes of the sun as some sort of celebration of winning the war rather than remembering the losses on all sides.
just to make sure I’ve not missed something: the prime minister and his home sec (or is that the home sec and her prime minister?) are essentially trying to block a March that is calling for an end to to a war killing thousands because it’s on the day where we traditionally mark the end of a war and remember the thousands who died? That was popularly being presented as providing the freedom to do things like March in protest?
It's as if Sue-Ellen is clutching at straws, isn't it?
I watched V for Vendetta the other night. I remember thinking 'ha, what are the chances?' when it came out.
Whether this march went ahead was always an operational matter
But more than that, and Metropolitan Police Commissioner has made this very clear, it is also a legal matter.
Met Commissioner Mark Rowley has repeatedly said that he cannot legally make a request to the Home Secretary to ban a march, under section 13 of the 1986 Public Order Act, without intelligence, or other convincing proof, that serious public disorder will occur which the Met would be unable to control.
Had Rowley made the request his actions could have been legally challenged. Both the Home Secretary and the Prime Minister were requesting that he broke the law.
The Met chief obviously decided that he wasn't prepared to break the law to satisfy two individuals who won't even be at their jobs in a year's time.
And in a year's time Rowley will very likely still be "accountable" to Londoners, including London's Muslim community.
The Sun is joining in suggesting there are fewer poppy sellers due to fears of attacks from pro-Palestinian supporters.
There was a post on Twitter earlier from Edinburgh Police who'd received a report of a poppy seller being assaulted and, after a lot of combing through CCTV, they said there wasn't any evidence of any crime but by then of course the "report" was all over social media as a poor veteran just trying to do the right thing by selling poppies who'd been assaulted by these pro-Palestinians.
SO it served its purpose in stoking up more hatred even though the incident almost certainly never happened.
At the same time there were suggestions that the poppy seller did indeed exist but various people who'd actually served were questioning the medals and ribbons he'd been wearing in the photos, suggesting that it was all a bit Walter Mitty.
This time of year really does drag out the worst in certain sections of society.
just to make sure I’ve not missed something: the prime minister and his home sec (or is that the home sec and her prime minister?) are essentially trying to block a March that is calling for an end to to a war killing thousands because it’s on the day where we traditionally mark the end of a war and remember the thousands who died?
Yup, that's correct. Apparently it is "disrespectful" to call for a ceasefire on a day in which a ceasefire is commemorated annually.
Surprise surprise! Its a no show from Cruella in the House of Commons
She's done what she always does... lobs a toxic hand grenade into the public discourse, then scuttles off to hide under her desk and let anyone who's stupid enough take the flak for her. On this occasion it was Tory-by-numbers sock puppet Chris Philp
She's as cowardly as she is obnoxious
Right-wing and nationalist protesters who engage in aggression are rightly met with a stern response yet pro-Palestinian mobs displaying almost identical behaviour are largely ignored, even when clearly breaking the law?"
how come if they are both displaying almost identical behavior, right wing nationalists are ‘protestors’, whereas the pro Palestinians are a ‘mob’?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67366165.amp
A senior Tory source told the BBC that the article was "wholly offensive and ignorant of where people in Northern Ireland stand on the issues of the the Israel and Gaza".
If Braverman had been in government 40 years ago she would no doubt have been calling for the heavy bombardment of Republican areas in Northern Ireland, and justifying the targeting of hospitals. All civilian deaths that would have caused would have obviously been the fault of the IRA.
Surprise surprise! Its a no show from Cruella in the House of Commons
love this comment in the fail....
Top woman, least she has a backbone.
😀 redefining the term "yellow peril" :/
Caught part of her no-show in the HoC on the radio - seemed reporters were subtly mocking her for throwing her Policing minister under the bus. Again.
I wonder if she has reached the threshold for a criminal offense yet? Must be getting close. I wonder if someone like the good law project will set a private prosecution going or raise a complaint to the police?
One things for sure, if I was posting this kind of rhetoric online, I’m fairly sure I’d be getting a knock on the door from the authorities for breaching our hate laws..
a truely odious individual, I actually have to change channels when I see her repugnant smirking face on tv. She actually sickens me.
which, ironically probably makes her position more secure.
She is officially her own worst enemy now.
This is what happens when you have to constantly out do yourself to appeal to (the rotten) core.
Add in little to no accountability as your own PM is too weak to do anything, or possibly, savvy enough to give you enough rope...
Anyway, it's now a sad irony that if the far right kick off over the weekend, although it's absolutely what she wanted, it might bring her down too.
Terrible shame (not) but a genuine shame that she is the one that ends up disrupting Remembrance Sunday.
I wonder if she has reached the threshold for a criminal offense yet?
Well she appears to have reached the threshold for exceeding her powers as Home Secretary.
She is being taken to court for signing off legislation which has been rejected by Parliament.
which, ironically probably makes her position more secure
What it does is draw attention to the PM's responsibility. If he keeps her, he supports her behaviour.
Add in little to no accountability as your own PM is too weak to do anything, or possibly, savvy enough to give you enough rope…
I think its very convenient for Sunak to be described as too weak to sack her. While it may well be the case (it is) I think he's actually 99% in agreement with what she's saying. Thats why she's saying what she's saying with no sanction.
They're doing a good cop/bad cop routine where she spouts her hate-filled bile and he does the more considered 'well I wouldn't have used that language...' act, which makes him look comparatively 'moderate'.
He isn't
That article has been signed off for number 10, along with everything else she's said. He won't sack her because she's doing her job in accurately reflecting the views of the government of which he's (allegedly) the leader.
Whats terrifying is the obvious pleasure she seems to take in whipping up mobs, inciting violence and overstepping boundaries left, right and centre. She's a very, very dangerous person, as unfortunately will likely be proved this weekend. She's trying her damndest to make sure theres no chance this weekends protest will pass off without violence with her courting of Tommy Robinson and his gang of far right thugs. She's legitimising whatever it is they're cooking up
No 10 did not sign off the final version of Suella Braverman’s article accusing the police of being biased, The Telegraph can reveal.
The Home Secretary and her team defied No 10 by ignoring some of their requested edits to her article.
Four sources have confirmed to this newspaper that some changes demanded by Downing Street in the Home Secretary’s article in The Times, in which she accused the police of “playing favourites” with Left-wing protesters, were not incorporated in the final version.
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It will come up at the lobby briefing later
from the Grauniad live feed
The Home Secretary and her team defied No 10 by ignoring some of their requested edits to her article.
Four sources have confirmed to this newspaper that some changes demanded by Downing Street in the Home Secretary’s article in The Times, in which she accused the police of “playing favourites” with Left-wing protesters, were not incorporated in the final version.
If that is the case then she has to go. Simple as that.
This would chime with the claim yesterday that she is now just goading him into sacking her
So... another Tory leadership election before Christmas?
This would chime with the claim yesterday that she is now just goading him into sacking her
Hmmm... That would make sense too. Lord, they are a narsasistic/ machiavellian bunch of turds. She would love to play the victim here.
The palestinian support march will never be closer than 2 miles to the cenotaph
It won't suprise me if some absolute throbbers try and disrupt it on either side.
Even within the lefties marching to support the Palestinian cause are some raging authoritarians who'd love to **** up remembrance.
And Tommy and his ilk will be waiting with glee to disrupt the planned protest we're all discussing. To deny either element has some idiots is disingenuous at best.
But their existence doesn't justify and it never will, the steps and rhetoric that comic book villain is espousing.
Any one ****s with remembrance or peaceful protest should be put in stocks and have rotten veg thrown at them*.
*Or the law used appropriately. But as SB seems to be intent on perverting that, seems fruitless.
I have a feeling this Sunday might be a shit show, as if it isn't hard enough for some already. 😔
That feels to me like Sunak distancing himself from her
The latest 'News Agents' pod covers this quite well. I think RS knows he's ****ed if he doesn't pull it out the bag for the GE, she's set herself up as kingmaker and is waiting to slide the knife in and grab leadership.
@ernielynch I thought there was a rare moment of unity in that article you posted until it got to that throbber Paisley. DUP once again rising to the occasion.
https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1722583915217506665?t=QYI-AccjD3-_lTc_ysJ95A&s=19
She's directly mounting a leadership bid, challenging whatever authority Sunak has.
Breach of ministerial code (although that seems to be a daily occurrence these days), signing off legislation that was previously rejected by Parliament, inciting hatred....
She is just a fascist leader-in-waiting.
I’m wondering if that’s being harsh on Enoch – given their respective backgrounds, how the hell has she arrived at a similar position?
Pull the ladder up I can swim.
I have a feeling this Sunday might be a shit show, as if it isn’t hard enough for some already.
I suppose with the Tories so far behind in the polls & Sunak so weak , it was inevitable that some of them would go balls deep in the culture war
you only have to look at the front page of the sun today to see that stirring this up to try desperately to save the government
We had a really good chat at Cubs this week, we asked them to bring stories of their great grandparents and relatives who'd had sereved in ww2, afghanistan etc, it was something they really focused on& engaged with (not always easy for some of them) and it was a really good session, we also made some poppies and will be doing our own remembrance march on Sunday, a world away from the politicisation and nonsense braverman & co are stirring up.
with no 10 disowning the article Little Rishi has no option now but to sack her now. But they handle everything so badly he looks so indecisive, can you imagine him ordering lunch ! 😕
There’s a little sliver of hilarity in all this. She’s got right up the loyalists’ noses by thoughtlessly referring to orange order traditions as “sectarian hate marches”. They’re going buck-wild at being compared to Jihadis.
It's also interesting that the Torygraph didn't give No 10 a heads up before publishing so he could get ahead of the story and a least sack her with looking like he'd been forced into it by the Opposition.
Her knowledge of Northern Irish politics is clearly zero (surprise surprise, again!) if she's comparing Unionists to Jihadi's. What she's proving yet again, when you get behind all the hate-filled rhetoric, is that she's as thick as mince, isn't she?
Ultimately we've got Boris Johnson to thank for all this.
Him playing fast and loose with the democratic norms of our unwritten constitution has set the tone for those he appointed and who succeeded him. They also share his contempt for democracy but now we've got people like Cruella, with some genuinely sinister agendas, using the same playbook.
I suppose it was inevitable really. Hasn't taken long has it? Its only going to get worse over the next 12 months as they obviously see whipping up division as their only viable option to try and avoid electoral annihilation
As a Buddhist she is in for a very unhappy life with all the shit she has pulled being that karma would be a thing for her.
Anyone got that feeling of imminent action we had as Boris's collapse drew inevitably near?
She's currently smirking in front of the Covid-19 inquiry.
She sounds like a consomethinge professional and a bit of a namby-pamby liberal in comparison to her successor
Remember the good old days when we thought Priti Patel as Home Secretary was about as bad as it could get?
The lobby briefing had a load of questions about Braverman according to the Gruaniad and it very much looks like Sunak is putting space between him and her and getting ready to sack her
Rats in a sack again
I don't know what else he expected when he appointed the woman who'd deservedly been sacked 6 days earlier.
So she's clearly going for a record of being sacked as home secretary twice by two different Prime Ministers in just over 12 months. You really couldn't make it up, could you?
Sorry, forget that Covid Inquiry stuff, I'm mixing up my Home Secs.
Are we going to do a sweepstake on her sacking? I'm going for Sunday evening so the news is buried in remembrance stuff
I’ll take Sunday morning as it won’t even register on the news channels then either.
Before or after the riot she incited?
Before or after the riot she incited?
There's an easier option which is just to ensure she's caught in the crossfire. It'd solve a lot of problems and it'd be a great bit of irony for a Government that doesn't seem to understand consequences.
I'd say 10am as then the news channels will be full of pre-remembrance stuff. I don't think any timing of a riot or otherwise will make much difference.
Labour not shy in pointing out how weak sunak is atm
https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1722576504725397702
I'm going for later this afternoon for her to be invited for a meeting with no biscuits.
If she's not careful someone will be sent round to hammer frozen sausages into her front lawn.
If she’s not careful someone will be sent round to hammer frozen sausages into her front lawn.
Not an image I wanted
If she posted on here would she have a ban?
She’s directly mounting a leadership bid, challenging whatever authority Sunak has.
Breach of ministerial code (although that seems to be a daily occurrence these days), signing off legislation that was previously rejected by Parliament, inciting hatred….
She is just a fascist leader-in-waiting.
What's the old saying? "Go for the job you want, not the one you have"...
Just like she did when both Boris and Truss looked shaky, she's getting her pitch in a bit early I reckon, The job(s) she wants is either to become the full bore Right Wing Meeja mouthpiece, being paid to spout via GBeebies and the DM without the inconvenience of having to pretent to be an MP, let alone a Minister.
The only other role She's maybe after is Leader of the coming Tory opposition, hedging her bets thar once Lil' Rishi loses the party will lurch further right and if she can look like the biggest bastard in the parlimentary contingent the job will be hers, again no need to deliver anything other than hate speech at a dispatch box.
If she manages to wind up the RW loons and turn a protest march into a Riot that might be a touch too much, and she'll not just be gone from the cabinet but she may well put herself on thin ice as an MP.
But then that level of martyrdom could well suit her.
I’m going for later this afternoon for her to be invited for a meeting with no biscuits.
Its tricky since some of her allies have announced she wants to be sacked and the opposition have called for it as well.
He may be determined to hold out.
Can he appoint her as minister for overseas territories and send her to a newly establish office on the Falklands?