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World’s shortest political thread
good riddance. nasty little turd
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The worlds shittiest “smeagle cosplaying hobgoblin” is out for sharing classified documents, So we now have a Home Secretary that previously had multiple aliases and shilled get rich quick schemes?, seems appropriate for this shower of ****s masquerading as a functioning government
Apparently, it's over an "honest mistake" rather than policy disagreement. If this is the real reason, she must have done something pretty bloody bad!
Such a shame. Wonder if they can find a replacement with a tiny shred of humanity this time
As an ex-minister she doesn't deserve any exclamation marks!!
Seems Grant Shapps is the likely replacement
In modern politics, everyone gets their two exclamation marks of fame.
Quick, get the Grant! Shapps! thread fired up.
Sent ministerial documents via personal email.
Anyway, she's gone.
Bye!
The worlds shittiest “smeagle cosplaying hobgoblin”
I don't know what that means but I still like it.
She has put her hand up to sending a confidential document from her personal email - but that strongly suggests that she has been work on confidential Home Office policy outside of the secure Home Office IT eco-system. This is massive no-no for anyone working on policy in civil service or Parliament both for security reasons and because it takes important discussions/documents on policy development and implementation out of the public record. These may well remain confidential for forty years but still need to be on the record for review and accountability.
Basically she's either very stupid or wanting to hide something - neither is a good look
Rat? Sinking? Ship?
Good, the rancid hag.
Saying that, Tim (nice but dim) Twelve Names hardly raises the bar.
Actually I've just read the full statement. She was sacked for the infringement, but looks like she was not happy about being told to wind in her policy and was probably trying to get support to undermine Truss to force her own policy through.
They Tories are broken - they have forgotten they are supposed to be run a country and its just become Tory Battle Royale
Maybe it was suicide by email... Oops I've sent an official doc on my personal email, deary me I'd better confess and go..
She didn't say good things about the gov in her resignation letter
Sent ministerial documents via personal email.
A calculated act so she could write that resignation letter in that way, our Home Secretary it turns out is a suicide bomber
Basically she’s either very stupid or wanting to hide something – neither is a good look
Avoid information requests from a court or under the Freedom Of Information Act?
Braverman might be a lawyer but legal stuff is complicated. It was probably just an honest mistake.
The letter extracts just read out on the radio sounds like a pitch for pm to me.
Apparently, it’s over an “honest mistake”
Tofu in the photocopier
Is anybody else finding the reason for her resignation a little peculiar? If nothing else, it all happened a bit quick, no?
From her letter:
"Earlier today, I sent an official document from my personal email to a trusted parliamentary colleague as part of policy engagement, and with the aim of garnering support for government policy on migration.
"This constitutes a technical infringement of the rules. As you know, the document was a draft Written Ministerial Statement about migration, due for publication imminently. Much of it had already been briefed to MPs. Nevertheless it is right for me to go.
"As soon as I realised my mistake, I rapidly reported this on official channels, and informed the Cabinet Secretary. As Home Secretary I hold myself to the highest standards and my resignation is the right thing to do.
It's nice to have some consensus on a politics thread for a change.
<Awaits the Braverman fan club's arrival>
Shortest-serving UK home secretaries (May 1945 onwards)
1. Suella Braverman, 43 days
2. Donald Somervell, 62 days (post-WW2 caretaker)
3. Alan Johnson, 340 days
4. David Waddington, 398 days
5. Kenneth Clarke, 412 days
https://twitter.com/Direthoughts/status/1582756894166638596?s=20&t=w3m1oen2oL24xibd0fs84A
Full benefit package on exit. Nice.
I wonder how many tofu-eating woke people get sacked each day for massive security related **** ups or blatantly ignoring the rules?
Either way, that's two of the biggest loonies out the way, I am definitely breathing sigh of relief right now. Three more to go: Coffey, Rees-Mogg and Truss herself
<Awaits the Braverman fan club’s arrival>
Current membership:
1.Suella Braverman.
The letter extracts just read out on the radio sounds like a pitch for pm to me.
She must be out of her mind
Is anybody else finding the reason for her resignation a little peculiar? If nothing else, it all happened a bit quick, no?
Yes.
Either she decided to go for some reason and used that as an excuse to appear honourable and get a dig in at Truss and co for not resigning after their "honest mistakes" or it was used as an opportunity to force her out.
Rees-Mogg
I'm hoping for something along the lines of, when it's revealed to him that it is no longer the Victorian Era, he instantly ages 150 years and turns to dust. Vampire in sunlight kind of thing.
She must be out of her mind
Yes, yes she is. Not just about becoming PM.
Have they found something to try and kill off her leadership bid? Dishonourably booted for a mistake? Made it hard for anyone to back her in the short term?
Note that her replacement (Professor Green or whatever he's calling himself this week) is on the record as saying that picking the next leader should be a job for MPs only, not go to the members again. Done in a week. That also stops her having any chance of getting her hands on that job, if it goes that way.
Maybe it was suicide by email… Oops I’ve sent an official doc on my personal email, deary me I’d better confess and go..
She didn’t say good things about the gov in her resignation letter
Then why not just resign?
Tbh for me the whole thing just reeks of coke addled bumbling incompetence
BBC news feed from Westminster. Best placard ever poor Liz lol
Braverman is going to lead a challenge
Maybe it was suicide by email…
IMO more likely sacked. Braverman was known to be highly critical of Liz Truss's Jeremy Hunt inspired U-turns.
When you have 2 Prime Ministers you have got to expect chaos in government.
The new guy is Grant Shapps. Is he any good?
I'll afraid to blink these days in case I miss a whole regime change.😁
She wrote she had "sent an official document from my personal email to a trusted parliamentary colleague" earlier today and insisted it was "right for me to go".
But in a damning two paragraphs, Ms Braverman continued: "The business of government relies upon people accepting responsibility for their mistakes. Pretending we haven't made mistakes, carrying on as if can't see that we have made them, and hoping that things will magically come right is not serious politics.
"Not only have we broken key pledges that were promised to our voters, but I have had serious concerns about this Government's commitment to honouring manifesto commitments, such as reducing overall migration numbers and stopping illegal migration, particularly the dangerous small boats crossings."
got to giver her two thumbs up for that piece of penmanship.
The new guy is Grant Shapps. Is he any good?
Ask Mick Lynch.
shermer - you didn't include badenoch in your list of loonies still to get rid of; she should definitely be on the list.
shermer – you didn’t include badenoch in your list of loonies still to get rid of; she should definitely be on the list.
Good point!
Hell Yeah!!!!
shermer75
Free Member
The new guy is Grant Shapps. Is he any good?
He's a lying shyster who wouldn't know the truth if bought him a sausage roll.
Ponzi schemes, lying to Parliament, a devious little turd willing to sell his soul for power.
He'll fit right in.
The new guy is Grant Shapps. Is he any good?
He is using his Corinne Stockheath alias to keep up the number of women in Cabinet.
He is a good blusterer which isnt surprising given his background in dubious web marketing practices.
Was the transport secretary under Johnson.
Not a hard right loon but still not someone to have as home secretary
This shall be known hence forth as the Sunak Avoidance Technique. Getting yourself fired for something innocuous in order you can both have a dig at the PM, and establish your hard-line credentials to restart your campaign to become PM without getting with the backstabber label.
Cheered me up.
Maybe she got sacked for forgetting the correct list members of the Anti Growth Coalition. She made a good start but mixed up Tofu for smashed avacado. I’ll lend he my new t shirt so she doesn’t forget in future.
I’ll lend he my new t shirt so she doesn’t forget in future
That was quick!!
BBC News is saying she jumped before she was pushed
The t shirt came out last week based on a sketch from a comedy podcast. With a right wing nutter ranting on a parody radio phone in. In some fiction becomes truth coincidence a right wing nutter starts with reading out a list of members of the anti growth coalition in parliament that starts the same and is almost as ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1579481642187755525?s=20&t=YHGUQigphxpLYJ6WN4Bypw
In some meta
Braverman is our local MP, I wish we could get shot of her this easily. Bloody years and she keeps getting voted in with a massive majority, wonder if this little panto will make people think
I'd make a joke about Big Tofu but tbh I think it'd be tasteless
Makes you Rwanda where she is going next...
Basically she’s either very stupid or wanting to hide something
These options are not mutually exclusive.
Tory Battle Royale
It's been a while but do they not basically all end up dead?
Seems like a decent outcome.
Is anybody else finding the reason for her resignation a little peculiar?
Nope, it was a clear choice.
She's trying to get out in front early, just like she did on Peston when Boris was on the rocks. Her letter is clearly aimed at signalling her agenda to the headbangers as that's where she sees her base and she's clearly hoping a public flounce will precipitate others doing the same...
But TBH it just plays like more playground politics and infighting, she's only hurting the Tory party, let her crack on...
Wonder how she'll spin this on her rather 'enthusiastic' CV?
I’d make a joke about Big Tofu but tbh I think it’d be tasteless
Oh, very well played sir. 🙂
Braverman is our local MP, I wish we could get shot of her this easily. Bloody years and she keeps getting voted in with a massive majority, wonder if this little panto will make people think
Unlikely, the locals really love a Tory.
I don't like her politics but being realistic she's seemingly very well placed for the local demographic.
From her letter:
“Earlier today, I sent an official document from my personal email to a trusted parliamentary colleague as part of policy engagement, and with the aim of garnering support for government policy on migration.
“This constitutes a technical infringement of the rules. As you know, the document was a draft Written Ministerial Statement about migration, due for publication imminently. Much of it had already been briefed to MPs. Nevertheless it is right for me to go.
“As soon as I realised my mistake, I rapidly reported this on official channels, and informed the Cabinet Secretary. As Home Secretary I hold myself to the highest standards and my resignation is the right thing to do.
What actually occurred is that she'd already transferred the document into her private 'system' and was caught when someone who she'd then sent it to noticed and reported it.
Equivalent to Trump & his Mar-a-Lago documents.
She's bent, and so is he.
as caught when someone who she’d then sent it to noticed and reported it.
Supposedly she cc'd in the wrong person in her hurry to send it from her personal phone. The person she cc'd in was a member of the public. That person reported it, not Braverman.
They can't even be honest when they are caught.
I would really like a totally impartial and competent information security group in cases like this. If that is true (^^^) then she should get a written warning or, depending on the documents and the mail service, arrested for breaking the OSA or personally fined by the ICO for breaching GDPR. I know that will never happen, but I really want to see people taking this kind of thing seriously, especially MPs.
Yeah the phraseology "technical infringement" is clearly intended to both minimise the offence and do a bit of virtue signalling (if a right winger is allowed to do such things) suggesting that she was both too busy doing her job to bother with pesky rules, but then so earnest and honest that she'd fall on her sword for a relatively minor infraction.
It's performative nonsense, trying to sculpt a narrative and a version of Braverman's character that suits her aspirations to be part of (or even lead?) a proper headbanger, Right leaning Tory government...
I mean come on, Bozza and friends loved a technical infringement, doing half their government Comms on WhatsApp etc. The faithful loved the fact that IT security and using the correct Comms channels wasn't how the chumocracy did business, it's bloody handy if you want to pitch for a PPE contract via the backdoor to someone who went to the same school as you.
FWIW I think Cruella has jumped the gun anyway but also chosen a bizarre hill to die on. She was only ever there in post to let the Right-wingers think they had a player in the game. And then complaining in her letter that they're not concentrating enough on immigration/asylum seekers (what does she want? Truss torpedoing boats in the channel or flying more asylum seeks to Rwanda?) its is a bit tone deaf, there's been a couple of other things going on over the last few weeks...
WEll as the saying goes,
Suella Braverman was born Sue-Ellen. As someone with dual heritage myself - European and Asian, I implicitly mistrust people who seem to reinforce their ethnicity.
So, is she going to go? (again!)
My favourite tweet so far:
https://twitter.com/TobyonTV/status/1585536367626489858?t=aNTxhBDghzaKNNsCOVPC8g&s=19
I doubt she will last long for sure.
I can't help feeling the sooner she goes the better everyone is- even Rishi Sunak, who gets to appoint someone non-mental and (hopefully) competent
someone non-mental
Yep, that's where the bar is. Non-mental. Trouble is this shower limbo dance
Yep, that’s where the bar is.
It certainly is!
Sunaks problem is that he needs to pick a replacement from one of the other far right headbangers to keep that part of his party in check
I fear it'll be another braverman : ignorant, dishonest, incompetent, but smart enough to know that banging the culture war drum will make a certain demographic, ignore your shortcomings
I doubt sunak will change his mind and remove her; from his - and the tories - perspective a united front is essential.
If she decides to go - unlikely, I think - that will be presented as her personal decision.
A re-shuffle in a few months may see her depart but that's far from certain.
Pretty Vacant says hi.
Isn't Pretty Vacant one of the old forumites?
The MP she'd been sharing documents with has a reputation for being a hard-right loon from the hang 'em brigade who allegedly has links to the nastier factions of the GOP. Opinion piece from, er Computer Weekly
The veteran Tory MP Sir John Hayes has been disclosed as a secret adviser to Suella Braverman, with some colleagues believing he has been influential in the home secretary’s rise from backbencher to a great office of state.
He seems nice.
Jess Philips was tweeting about him today