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was just watching a youtube video about Eliud Kipchoge going to attempt a sub 2 hour marathon later this year.

personally i think he will do it. just looking at all his achievments in long distance running he definitely has the ability to break it i reckon. the man is amazing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliud_Kipchoge

just to put it into perspective,he will have to run a mile every 4 min 34 sec or 13.1 mph. insane 😦


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 4:27 pm
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I couldn’t ride a bike for that long at that pace


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 4:31 pm
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me neither houns lol just mindblowing speed he has to run at.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 4:34 pm
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I ran my first marathon this year at the age of 49 and think I did alright finishing in 3:56.
With training and 20 years off my age I think I may have managed 3:15.
2 hours is truly superhuman but I think he’ll do it.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 4:39 pm
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I'd love to see him do it. I think it is possible and someone will break it soon.


 
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Microdosing, pacing, new shoes, and that secret drink thing I’ve forgotten the name of. It’ll happen.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 4:45 pm
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Maurten energy drink ?


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 4:56 pm
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Maurten energy drink ?

No not that.

There’s some £1000/litre stuff that’s magic that I can’t remember the name of.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 5:28 pm
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hat secret drink thing I’ve forgotten the name of.

Rich


 
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ketones


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 5:38 pm
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C sharp?


 
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https://hvmn.com/ketone-ester


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 5:40 pm
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3 pack for under £100. Seems a bargain if you're anywhere near the top level.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 6:01 pm
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Don't think i'll be trying that.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 6:04 pm
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Apparently according to an eminent sports scientist I heard talk recently, the biggest barrier to this is managing heat loss. If you get hot, you slow down. Acclimatisation to the conditions you run in is one of the keys to this along with other factors.

I found this surprising and interesting as it seems obvious when it is pointed out.

No idea if sub 2 hours is possible though.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 6:05 pm
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he's only doing it to make the rest of us look bad.


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 6:11 pm
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As I understand it he is going to be intensively paced. A group will shelter him from the wind and they will change at regular intervals to maintain freshness.
It is on a circuit, doing laps.
It will not count as a world record because all the conditions have been broken.

But...he is cetainly good enough on his past form. However the usual questions will still be asked. And they won't be answered!!!


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 9:11 pm
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I’m still f***ed from my last sub 2hr marathon 🙁 I’m not doing it again !


 
Posted : 06/07/2019 9:14 pm
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Fastest I've ever run a mile is 4:50. Downhill 😀

He's going substantially faster than that, on the flat, for 26 miles. That's quite difficult to comprehend.


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 6:59 am
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Great little vid showing you how you had to run for his last world record.


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 7:18 am
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just to put it into perspective,he will have to run a mile every 4 min 34 sec or 13.1 mph. insane

And it really wasn't long ago (especially in human athletic evolution) that breaking 4 minutes for just 1 mile was seen as amazing.
Same with all top athletes though and I am useless at running but having ridden bikes all my life I am still amazed at the speed 25 mile TTs are raced at compared to my best efforts. Maybe I should have done a bit of training in my years of cycling...


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 7:53 am
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He only needs to go 1 second per mile faster than on his previous attempt 2 years ago, should be simple 🙂


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 8:26 am
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A few years ago, me and my lad tried an experiment where he was on his bike and I was running alongside*, to get to 13mph and see how long we could maintain it, we were both done by about 800m or so, it felt like full on sprinting. Insanely fast.

* and this was back when I could do a sub 40mins 10k, so I was a pretty reasonable casual runner.


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 8:28 am
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just to put it into perspective,he will have to run a mile every 4 min 34 sec or 13.1 mph. insane 😦

True...but he's already 98% of the way there so no matter how insane that sounds to us mere mortals, to him its only a few percent improvement so within grasp. I'm not sure how much faster it is possible for a human to run a marathon, but I'm sure the sub 2hr marathon is possible. There is nothing special about 2hrs so no sensible reason why it isn't possible. It's not a physical barrier, it's just the way we happen to have decided to carve up time, he's just chasing the world record like other athletes in other sports, slowly chipping away at it.

Apparently according to an eminent sports scientist I heard talk recently, the biggest barrier to this is managing heat loss. If you get hot, you slow down.

Makes sence. This is how we evolved sweat glands from hair follicles and why we don't have fur....our ability to sweat and regulate our body temperature enabled humans to be able to run down Gazelles by running them to the point of collapse due to heat exhaustion. Us humans seem to be supremely adapted to long distance running, especially in hot conditions...which is amazing to me with my laboured lolloping run. I managed a half marathon this year...but it wasn't pretty. I think my Neanderthal gene content has scuppered my ability to run.


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 8:49 am
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I can't run kilos at 4m34 😭


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 9:14 am
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I have to get a right sweat on to do that pace over 26 miles on the hybrid bike!
mind you, if I lost 2 stone, was his age & the bike didn't weigh 30lbs........

I can't comprehend anyone running that fast.
What speed does a top sprinter reach in a 100mtr race?


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 9:29 am
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https://www.topendsports.com/resources/records/speed.htm

The day after Usain Bolt's 9.58 100m world record, the IAAF released details of the split times for that race. The time for each 20m distance of the race was recorded. For Bolt, the fastest interval (60m to 80m) was run at an average speed of 44.72 km/hr (27.79 mph, 12.42 m/s).


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 9:37 am
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enabled humans to be able to run down Gazelles by running them to the point of collapse due to heat exhaustion

Be cautious of evolutionary "just so stories" . There has been two groups that there is evidence for this behaviour, Kalahari Bushmen (and the technique seems quite modern), and somewhat incongruously  a family that became socially isolated on the Siberian steppe, and literally had no other way of killing animals for a while, and even they reported that they only ever did it in extremis. There is not currently, a satisfactory answer to "did early humans use this as a hunting technique" or "did we evolve hairless bodies to make running more efficient". It is only an hypothesis, and it's not even the strongest theory on hair loss in one particular species of primate. (it seems to have probably been environmental) It may only have been a useful by-product/adaptation.


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 10:24 am
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Makes sence. This is how we evolved sweat glands from hair follicles and why we don’t have fur….our ability to sweat and regulate our body temperature enabled humans to be able to run down Gazelles by running them to the point of collapse due to heat exhaustion.

Nah. That’s no longer thought to be true. Google aquatic ape theory. We don’t have hair cos we spent most of our time on the beach.


 
Posted : 07/07/2019 3:29 pm

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