[Closed] STW Chub Club 2017

No. Because tomorrow's Monday.

Weigh in day is every other Friday (except end Mar when there's an extra to account for 13 weeks in a quarter) but I'll remind you anyway, and I'll plan on doing the updates for Sun evening so there's no issue if you don't get me the data on Friday itself. I just like Friday because it's before the weekend and hence I can look good before releasing the reins slightly at the w/e, and also so i get the w/e to input your updates.

If you don't give me a figure I'll just roll over the last one you had. No 'expulsions' for non-reporting here, although obviously if you do decide to leave let me know and I'll delete you and avoid having to track you.

Has anyone else found how the first kilo or so drops off fairly easily?

I don't know the science behind "Christmas bloat" but I've decided it's a thing!

It's the sugar withdrawals. It's messing with me faculties.

motivation and willpower are strong. You've been imbibing 4000 calories a day, mainly in confectionary and booze. It's not a major surprise the first few lbs go quick. We'll need the support in March when it gets a bit harder......

theotherjonv - Member

You've been imbibing 4000 calories a day

😯

I seem to have been able to cut down on my meal portions a bit, slow and steady approach, will cut down a bit more as we go along and try to take out the bad and replace with the good.

A definite stumbling block is "biscuits with a cuppa" when watching tv in the evenings. I assume the answer is to either pick fruit instead (I mean choose a fruit, not actually go out into the orchard and work as a distraction) or stop watching Telly from the sofa - to break the routine?

I assume the answer is to either pick fruit instead (I mean choose a fruit, not actually go out into the orchard and work as a distraction) or stop watching Telly from the sofa - to break the routine?

Or to just do it with willpower. I'm shit at changing routines but I can manage the willpower thing okay.

I've taken to making healthier snacks (than chocolate bars/biscuits) to help out when I'm hungry. I've got a ride at lunchtime and I'm getting hungry already so I have this sort of bread-fritata thing with courgettes and spinach which is reasonably low on calories but high in protein and other good stuff. It'll mean I don't ride starving at least.

A definite stumbling block is "biscuits with a cuppa" when watching tv in the evenings. I assume the answer is to either pick fruit instead (I mean choose a fruit, not actually go out into the orchard and work as a distraction) or stop watching Telly from the sofa - to break the routine?

Do you really need to be told that the answer is simply "don't have the biscuits"? If you really have the need to do something more complicated than that, you could replace them with a portion of MTFU.

I think I might play the Tough Love role in the Chub Club 🙂

as noted a page or two ago, willpower enough isn't enough for most people. It sounds to me that biscuits with a cuppa is more of a habit than a willpower thing. Can you do without the cuppa, have a glass of water instead.

Or restrict to a cuppa and [u]A[/u] biscuit instead of biscuits?

I often snacked in the evenings. I find that having nothing and either playing on the Xbox or reading helps pass the time until I'm tired enough to go to bed is what is working for me.
The test will be after night rides as I tend to pig out a bit after them because I don't eat before and so I'm starving by the time I get in.

Cheeky weigh in in the office this morning as the scales there I believe are more accurate than the ones at home, and I have weighed on these scales throughout last year and for the start of these topic so keeping it consistant, todays weight 229.2 (down from start weight of 236)

(I try to weigh first thing as I get into office, this is done before breakfast/coffee or anything as i really struggle to eat for the first hour or so)

I think jonv is the good, to my bad, cop.

Was 117.2 Friday morning. This morning I'm 116.1! How did that happen! Happy though, as long as it keeps going that way.

I'm really craving a sugary snack this morning though, and we still have a mountain of left over chocolate at work. Going to resist though, I want to maintain my record of not eating any chocolate/sweets in 2017!

How did we all get on over the weekend?

I was working lates and resisted the usual takeaway option and took in a homemade meal both nights, so that's a win for me 🙂 Working also meant no alcohol, so off to a good start.

Good luck with keeping the 'no choc/sweets' streak going grenosteve 8)

Took a "Before" selfie in the full length mirror last night to give me something to compare when I am well buff in 6 months time.

Immediately deleted it when I realised I looked like creepy serial killer, Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs posing in front of a mirror.

Immediately deleted it when I realised I looked like creepy serial killer, Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs posing in front of a mirror.

Well, you didn't have to tuck it between your legs

Yes. Yes I did. 🙂

Weigh in day is every other Friday

That'll teach me to not look in the thread for a couple of days.

You've got (pointless) mail.

I actually put on weight! No exercise, 2x pies and a roast dinner over the weekend.

How did we all get on over the weekend?

Week days I'm fine, weekends are much more of a challenge.

On a positive note I've somewhat unbelievably maintained my no crisps/pastry products and general snacking rule. On a not so positive note I went to the footy at the weekend, with the associated massive stomach-lining fry up, followed by all day drinking. Hey ho.

I think that's all the mince pies out my system now.

No exercise, all diet this week, but then a high initial weight drop is always expected due to all that water weight pissing off.

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I feel the need to share with the group.

My name is Simon, and I've just had a (large) sausage roll.

*sobs*

Might be okay. How many calories in snout and anus?

I just ate it you pervert.

My name is Simon, and I've just had a (large) sausage roll.

My name isn't really Rob and I've just eaten a MASSIVE amount of stir-fried veg flavoured with Chinese 5 spice. Nommy, healthy and (possibly a little too) filling.

Won't need to eat agen for a while...

Being prepared with low-calorie meals to nosh throughout the day is important in reducing one's chubbness

First day back at work today and it's fair to say work lunch is bloody rubbish with no crisps 😥

Lamb tagine followed by Christmas cake. I made need to throttle back a bit.

I just ate a curry and a naan. The curry was pretty healthy (prawn, almost no oil used in making it etc) but I think the naan has buggered it up for me.

****, just had a sandwich. It was like a starter. Starving now. Should have had the fish butty 🙁

I just ate one of these:

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They're pretty good for the lazy cook, as you just microwave the pouch as is, and eat. £2, so about the same as a portion of chips. Plus filling and only 400 calories.

...I give myself 2 weeks before I crack.

I had a freshly made veggie curry with brown basmati and quinoa for lunch.

Not telling what I ate last night though.

Blackberry porridge for breakfast (258Kcal) and lamb tagine with quinoa tonight (430Kcal)

6 lbs lost in a week on the Blood sugar Diet.

Michael Mosley is such a sellout.

Weekend was OK.
Went out for an hour on the bike on Saturday morning on just a coffee. Had an omelette when I got back.
Sunday was a longer ride, and set off after having a bagel with (non-sweetened) peanut butter. Resisted the urge to pig out upon return.

Keeping to home prepped lunches at work (veg and a bit of fruit); and largely prepared from scratch food at home (altho Pizza - just half - on Friday evening).

Have not touched booze since last year (am not counting the half a bitter on New year day).

Keep it up everyone and good luck (not that you'll need it - you're all disciplined!)

£2, so about the same as a portion of chips.

Two quid for chips? Ooh, lah dee dah.

Chakaping, you weigh about 12st ! You sure you're in the right thread ?

Two quid for chips? Ooh, lah dee dah.

Large portion. 🙁

Edit: I just had to check my local chippy to see what they charge, seems I was in the right ball park.

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[i]I think I might play the Tough Love role in the Chub Club [/i]

Aaah - Willpower. Why didn't I think of that ..?

That's me sorted then

😉

Chakaping, you weigh about 12st ! You sure you're in the right thread ?

I'm a touch over 12st yeah, but I've got to hold my hand up to being a bit of a skinny chubster. I ride quite a lot but then eat a lot of crap.

I'd been getting fitter anyway in recent years, but plateaued a while ago and might now be getting slower - so I reckon I need to try to break my crisp & cake habits.

I'm a touch over 12st yeah, but I've got to hold my hand up to being a bit of a skinny chubster. I ride quite a lot but then eat a lot of crap.

I'd been getting fitter anyway in recent years, but plateaued a while ago and might now be getting slower - so I reckon I need to try to break my crisp & cake habits.

Fair enough 🙂 you seemed neither slow nor fat when we rode...

Maybe that says more about me than you 😉

Trying to stick to <1500 cals a day and <50g of carbs

It's bloody hard work! 😈 🙄

you seemed neither slow nor fat when we rode...

Thanks, I could definitely stand to shed a few pounds - or at least get a bit more lean.

🙂

Jamie - Member
I just ate one of these:

you poor poor thing 🙁

you poor poor thing

It wasn't too bad.

Ok, it wasn't a burger, but now is the time for penance, young Padawan.

Also, I now know there is a thing called a wheatberry. Is it a fruit or a grain?!!? Madness.

How did we all get on over the weekend?

Did OK; me and the good lady are doing dry January as we are both doing a weight loss thing and it's a lot easier if you don't drink as it's a combination of alcohol calories and the associated snack / junk food that usually make is us pile the weight on. The hope is that by the end of January we will be into the swing of things and a bit more disciplined. Lost a couple of pounds already so it's so far so good.

Did ok, didn't get out for a ride but did do my 2 scheduled runs, one pushing my 1 year in the pram for 5k. Food wise was good yesterday as I was busy, today not so good. Find work really hard as I get bored easily between my patients so look for food to fill the gap.

Don't eat breakfast at the moment so any filling/tasty ideas to start the day? Home made soup for lunch and dinner is always decent so they are both sorted. Just breakfast and avoid snacking!

Also just got the turbo out again so will be zwifting again soon as well as running

[I]Jamie - Member
7lbs in a week?
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Well, this is STW!
😉

[I]Edit: I just had to check my local chippy to see what they charge, seems I was in the right ball park.[/I]
Chippy with online tariff? Goodness, that is posh!

[I]rocco - Member
Don't eat breakfast[/I]
Sounds as though you know Hora?

did 30 miles on saturday
swapped my lunchtime cob and crisps for a pitta bread with some ham and salad, or a cup a soup
dinner was mussels (plain) on egg noodles and plenty of veg - bit of chilli sauce to liven it up

and a planned 15-20 miler tomorrow eve

once i get to spring and starts working 7 days a week for 4-6 weeks I find it more difficult to get out on a longer ride

I'm with SuperJohn, rocking the dry January gig. Diet's been pretty good, roughly based on Slimming World but with the occasional not-too-unhealthy sidetrip to the offplan world of sushi and coconut water. One thing I've not done enough of yet is exercise, one 3 mile run yesterday, but will try and make it a bit more regular (or even a little bit regular).

Dry January here, although it's enforced rather than voluntary (work). Trying and so far succeeding to stick to 1800-1900 calories per day, for a 2lb/week fat loss. 10 miles/day on the turbo. Unfortunately the scales here are possibly out of sync with the ones at home: 10lb loss so far, apparently...

Sounds like a mixed bag over the weekend, but I reckon that even being conscious of what you're putting in your mouth (even if it's rubbish) helps you eat less.

Which is what I told myself last night after I had a large glass of red and 4 ferrero rocher from the Christmas pile.

Jamie, I'm just so sad for you 😯 😆

20 minute of round-the-clock intervals on the rollers this morning. Only managed (nearly) two sets, it was brutal. My fitness is clearly 'not what it was' 😯

Jamie, I'm just so sad for you

I eat the wheatberries, so no-one else has to.

Today I am having a gluten and dairy free chicken tikka meal.

....living the dream.

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In conjunction with just about every female I know Mrs Binners is doing Weigh****chers (or Fat Club, as she calls it), so I'm in with a fighting chance. She's more willpower than me, so there will be stern looks if I weaken and suggest a takeaway.

She just posted up the following rules. I'm not sure they're all applicable to this thread, but here goes...

Fat Club Rules:

1. You'll wear the exact same clothes to weigh in every week - "I don't care how nice my new jeans are, denim costs lbs and I ain't sacrificing pizza all week only to have my weight loss sabotaged by some heavy fabric."

2. Likewise, if you have had a bad week mainlining chocolate, you'll spend an extra 10 minutes getting dressed in the morning trying to figure out which clothes weigh less. Yes it's f#@king freezing and it's the middle of January but I WILL wear that floaty chiffon beach dress that only weighs 100 grams.

3. There's always someone called Sandra who'll bore the crap out of everyone at group with a 20 minute sob story about how she's put on 3lb because she ate 20 sausage rolls at her cousin's wedding buffet, Again. STFU Sandra, keep it short and sweet, none of us have eaten before group and we're getting hunger/angry.

4. You will not eat anything at all before weigh in... even if it's at 7pm.

5. You'll be furious at your own body because without fail every week, you need a big poo as soon as you get in from class. Hello bowels, i could have done with this help before I got on the scales!

6. There's always someone in class called Karen who goes on 42 cruises a year.

7. You think the X Factor have good sob stories? Wait until you try and see someone justify putting on 2lbs at a WW class.

8. You will not be able to resist Instagramming your tea every night complete with point value - even though no one else knows wtf you're on about and your culinary skills mean that although it tastes fit, it looks like cat sick.

9. You'll have a speech prepared for when someone says, "Thought you were on a diet, should you be eating pasta?" - Well, ACTUALLY Dave..."

10. You've lost 3lbs, yessss! Time to celebrate with a chippy on the way home and a bottle of prosecco.

11. You will legit save all your weekly points and live on nothing but stir frys so you can down an entire bottle of wine on a Saturday night.

12. Points eaten during a hangover or from your fella's plate don't count.

13. Points you don't record in your food diary don't count

14. You've joined at least 3 times before and next time you join you just smile at the consultant like nothing ever happened and you totally didn't ignore the 10 'U ok hun?' texts she sent you last year.

15. Positive vibes only - never hate on anyone. Apart from that woman from group that actually LOST weight over xmas - the smug cow.

16. You did an internal fist pump when you found out Iceland started doing Slimming World ready meals. Because you was getting a bit sick of microwaving jacket potato and beans every day in the office canteen.

17. Every time mullerlight release a new flavour yoghurt you go out and buy 36 of them and get sick of eating them after 3 days.

18. You're the only person you know who eats curly wurlys.

19. No count/ F&H chips save lives.

20. You'll go out for a meal with all the best intentions but as soon as you're 2 glasses of wine in, your mentality is 'eat first, point later".

21. Actually, your mentality is 'eat first, point later" about most things. Don't tell your consultant.

22. You keep swerving your consultant's friend request on Facebook 'cos you can't be dealing with the guilt of her seeing pics of your Friday night Dominos feasts.

23. If it's 1 point for half a pack of something, and 3 points for the whole pack then obviously if you eat the whole pack and have a little gap of at least 5 minutes between halves then it's deffo only 2 points now.

24. Frylight is your best mate.

25. You've taken 'unlimited wholewheat pasta' as a personal all you can eat challenge at least once until you realise it's 'eat until you feel satisfied, not eat until you think you might pass out'

26. You'll turn on healthy foods you once loved. Avocado you big fraud, you told me you were all 'good fats' but for 9 you can PISS OFF.

27. Due to the huge amounts of fruit and veg you're eating you could probably legally declare yourself as a wind farm and solve the global energy crisis
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28. The price of fruit and veg compared to a Maccies and KFC makes you fume and you realise you've turned into your mum.

29. There's always one gang of women who always sit together in the same seats every week and you're working up the courage to get to group early and sit there because you wanna see the shit hit the fan.

30. When you get asked to do the weigh ins or the raffle you know you've made it into the upper echelons of the groups's social hierarchy.

31. You can't figure out why chocolate bars are decreasing in size but the point values are staying the same.

32. There's always a loud mouth in group who blames her weight gain on eating too many bananas.

33. You know exactly how many points are in every different alcohol without checking.
Group can sometimes feel like an AA session.

34. If you see a fellow member in the super market you automatically check their trolley contents on the sly.

35. If you see a fellow WW member eating out you automatically check their plate to see if they've chosen to be good or bad.

36. If you see your WW consultant whilst out for a meal or shopping you hide

I have eaten loads of bananas this week.

Fat Club Rules:

1. You'll wear the exact same clothes to weigh in every week - "I don't care how nice my new jeans are, denim costs lbs and I ain't sacrificing pizza all week only to have my weight loss sabotaged by some heavy fabric."

Binners and his missus are confirmed never nudes.

Always weigh yourself naked. As the diet gods intended.

Jamie, that looks quite tasty. Thanks for your wheatberry self sacrifice. Has anyone goggled WTF a wheatberry is yet?

Binners Rule #3 made me LOL

Just raided Lidl and came away with peppers, carrots, beetroot (cooked) and sugarsnap peas. Enjoyed the Yellow pepper eaten like an apple. Thinking is eating these raw will be filling and take up some bread and cheese stomach space?

Blackberry porridge for breakfast (258Kcal) and lamb tagine with quinoa tonight (430Kcal)

Unless you're eating about 1000cals during the day you're not eating nearly enough.

Result? your body will be panicking, and storing fat reserves, which is not what you want.

Still hoovering up Christmas goodies here 😳 but hopefully shaguary + more running will balance that out

Jamie, that looks quite tasty.

It was bloody lovely. If it didn't say it was gluten/dairy free then I would never had known. Managed the odd feat of having crunchy vegetables after microwaving....decent chunks of chicken as well.

As for wheatberries, I have decided there are just some things that man is not meant to know.

warton

Result? your body will be panicking, and storing fat reserves, which is not what you want.

No it won't.

Careful now, no arguing over what works and what doesn't and why, dem's da rules.

No it won't.

Yes it will.

Everyone else just skip forward to page 27.

warton

Result? your body will be panicking, and storing fat reserves, which is not what you want.

No it won't.

just a query, and not looking for an arguement, tis a genuine question

if thats the case how does the 5/2 work?

just a query, and not looking for an arguement, tis a genuine question

if thats the case how does the 5/2 work?

If I'm honest, I don't know - does it work, long term?

sorry for questioning peoples weight-loss ideas, and I am no expert. But, it's a fairly widely held view that if you start massively under-eating, and i would say 1000 calories is classed as that, your body goes into survival mode and will store fat and find other energy sources to burn (muscle)

happy for people to say I'm wrong, i don't want it to turn into an argument, and good luck to everyone trying to lose weight.

ps, this is an interesting article on diet [url= https://www.onnit.com/academy/12-week-fat-loss-nutrition-plan-part-1/ ]ONNIT[/url]

If I'm honest, I don't know - does it work, long term?

My wife's been doing it for about 18 months - she's keeping the weight off so far...

I never thought I'd see an ONNIT article linked here.

That's O-N-N-I-T. Add the code for 10% off!

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5:2 - how does it work?

Acc to the 'science' because you eat normally on the off days, your body doesn't adjust to a massive cut in calories and hence doesn't go into survival mode. It's one of the cautions, don't think that by doing 600 cals twice a week and then trying to do 1200 cals the other 5 that you'll do better (equally doing 600 cals twice a week and 6000 on the other 5 also doesn't work)

https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/food-thought-fast-day-starvation-mode/

Does it work long term?

After I'd hit target (and prob overshot a bit compared to where i wanted to be long term) I survived on a modified version for 2 years. I wasn't as strict on the 600 as i had been (bit more slack on portion control, but still well within say 800-1000/day on the on days) and some weeks would only do it for one day depending on mood and activity. If i felt weight was going back on, a couple of weeks of being diligent would check and reverse it.

It's only since depression and comfort eating that the weight's gone back on - 1.5 stone in broadly a year. Not a failure of the 5:2 per se, a failure of me in general. Without the black dog hanging around I can see no reason why i couldn't do modified 5:2 for 'ever'

your body goes into survival mode and will store fat

Unfortunately my body has been stuck on this setting for 20 years now 😀

Cheers for the responses and answers only reason I'm asking is that I have been logging everything (on mfp) just to see how I go and looking at yesterday for an example I struggled* to eat more than 1150 calories, and 'earnt'470 from gym work, my concern is that am I actually going to be doing more harm than good

*literally forced a paleo bar down last night as I felt I had to get over 1000, reason being I had been sub 1000 for a few days last week

To be fair, I would have to force a paleo bar down.

...and I eat wheatberries.

Warton - you may be surprised to know not everything we thought true about diets actually is!!

I'm following Dr Michael Moseley's 8 week Blood Sugar diet. 800Kcal per day, low carb high protein and fat, for 8 weeks is the full version, or you can 5/2 it as long as you eat "med style" low carb for the rest of the week.

Lunch today was 2 poached eggs, mushrooms & smoked salmon. I'm cooking chicken Korma and chickpea flatbreads as we speak!

Oh, and I've lost 7lbs in a week.

But is it sustainable?

Tonight is MTB night with the local lads, so will be interesting to see how my body will cope on reduced calories. I'm going to take it steady, and have some reserve low carb seedy flapjacks I made today as an emergency reserve. Not having a pint in the pub afterwards will be tough, and the chef does us a big free platter of chips too 🙁

have them. One day, particularly one with a chunk of exercise in won't make a big difference vs 11 or 12 of being good.

That's the mistake we all make, focussing on the 'bad' instead of the good.

Maybe. Maybe next week. Tonight is a bit of an experiment in how I can exercise on the diet.

been eating ok most of the time and commuted for the first time today to my new job and did about 15 miles today as went the wrong way for a bit... then crashed on the way home and gave myself some nice road rash on my hip, hopefully i've shaved enough off to help on the friday weigh in 😆

Getting a bit impatient with the fact that I've got a chesty cough and what feels like a strained rib muscle, so exercise is out as a precaution. Hoping that it's better enough to try a turbo session tomorrow night, as I'm itching to match my healthy diet with a healthy workout routine.