[Closed] STW Chub Club 2017

please go back and read the thread then :rollseyes:

specifically 2 pages back.

please go back and read the thread then :rollseyes:

specifically 2 pages back.

Good luck all.

Too late for me too, but I'm just about to embark on the 8wk 800Kcal Blood Sugar Diet. Looking to drop from 100 to 85kg, long term looking to eat low carb lean meat. Time to shift the spare tyre & fight for some KOMs!!

This oughtto be on a shared spreadsheet of somekind. So anyone join, at any time such as Lunge and not be excluded.

@lunge
You eat all you like now 😉 until 2018.

Ps does the "p" symbol stand for pie 😉

First week weigh in for me - although is interimm before first official next week.

And down 4lbs/1.8kg. Happy with start.

Be interested to see what approaches different people are using. For me I am looking to cut down on sugar (never really added sugar as such - but fairly sure I was consuming sugar rich foods). That in combination with cutting out the booze altogether, taking my own lunch to work, and keeping away from all bad snacks (crisps, pastries, biscuits, etc.) seems to be working.

Good luck to everyone else

Just a bit of an observation from quite a few of the posts on here; a lot of people are saying [i]"I'm going to do [insert eating regime here (low carb/paleo/HFLC blah blah)][/i]. Which is great, at first, but at the end of the day they're all 'diets', and it's been shown many times that, eventually, people fall off the diet wagon.

If you want to lose it and keep it lost (and assuming you're not properly obese, where more drastic action would be needed), you should perhaps be thinking more about [i]"I'm going to make the following subtle lifestyle changes (like no drinking in the week, snacking between meals etc)"[/i]. If the changes are subtle, but effective, they're more likely to stick in the long term.

Just a thought.

Be interested to see what approaches different people are using.

My plan is this........Eat less. Move around more.

I'm not a fan of "diets". I'm using MFP to log all my food because I really want to re-train myself to eat right, not just loose weight fast then go back to how I have been eating.

Plus -

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If the changes are subtle, but effective, they're more likely to stick in the long term.

That's more or less my approach. My big vices were snacking during the day and a couple of drinks in the evening. I'm still going to have a few drinks tomorrow but weekday booze is out and snacks are gone too.

Be interested to see what approaches different people are using.

My plan is this........Eat less. Move around more.

Sounds complicated. Are you sure?

My big vices were snacking during the day and a couple of drinks in the evening. I'm still going to have a few drinks tomorrow but weekday booze is out and snacks are gone too.

taking my own lunch to work

Amen brothers.

Sounds complicated. Are you sure?

It's currently proving much more complicated than anticipated.

Especially the "Eat Less" bit....... 🙁

Had an interim weigh in. Lost 1kg / 2lb. Pleased as haven't been able to exercise for a week after picking up a bit of knee injury (on the mend though).

Just cut out chocolate/pastries, no booze, salad for lunch. Not much else really. Eating the same evening meals. No food after evening meal.

I appreciate the sentiment and good advice of eating less and moving more.

But there have been plenty of threads which argue that it's not always that simple, or more to the point a little more direction/guidance on what "less of" would be ideal.

I find it completely frustrating that (and I know there's plenty of vested interests) despite this (in my view) being quite scientific, that the "experts" can't agree on the most effective way of sustaining weight loss.

Sugar is an interesting one - reading up on the NHS live well website they state that sugar g/100g of the food is low when 5g/100g or less and high when >20gsugar/100g foodstuff. Given me something tangible to check out.

Clearly cutting out the rubbish is good, along with the obvs like booze; but I want to see the "best" way . By focussing on sugar, at least I can still eat (a bit) of life's good'uns like cheese!

If you want to lose it and keep it lost (and assuming you're not properly obese, where more drastic action would be needed), you should perhaps be thinking more about "I'm going to make the following subtle lifestyle changes (like no drinking in the week, snacking between meals etc)". If the changes are subtle, but effective, they're more likely to stick in the long term.

That's what I'm trying to do. I haven't actually cut anything out altogether, just drinking less alcohol, fewer cakes etc. My bathroom scales tell me I've either lost 1lb or 3lb. I think it's time to buy some new scales...

Main vices for me are Coca Cola, biscuits dipped in tea (mmmm - I'll put the kettle on now) and stupid-big portions of everything.

Also my policy of finishing a packet of sweets/biscuits once opened.

If I can crack these vices to start with them it will help.

Eat less. Move around more

This is my least favourite sentence in the English language after "plus VAT"

this sums it up quite well:

[url= http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-eat-less-move-more-is-the-least-helpful-diet-adv-1686146359 ]http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-eat-less-move-more-is-the-least-helpful-diet-adv-1686146359[/url]

My approach is to cut out grain keep refined sugars low and focus on clean fats, lean protein and vegetables.

sorry lunge, that came across harshly when what i meant was the lbs bit. i apologise.

Likewise dantsw13; if you want to email me your details --> IN LBS <-- 😉 then I'll add you too.

@redthunder. Experience of shared docs at work is that someone always manages to **** it up hence why I prefer to run it as i am, thanks. But if you want to do it differently next year........

I think most people when they read "eat less" don't just eat 3/4 of a pie instead of a whole pie, they just cut out pies and replace it with something else. I could be wrong but I just don;t think the majority of people are so stupid as to think that by eating 80% of a mars bar they're doing much good (mind you, some people are extremely stupid, even the smart ones).

re: people's approach to changing their lifestyle and eating habits (aka diet, but I don't want to use that term for its negative connotations)

As I said early on in the thread, all approaches are valid if they work for you. It's perfectly OK to share experiences on here and to motivate each other in the process but please can we avoid it descending into another fight about why 'diets' don't work and so on. Start another thread if you want, or seek out the million or so that already exist.

Some people will approach by the basic method of eating less shit and exercising more. Some will do that in a more structured way, with dictats about what constitutes 'shit' and so on. Some might even go completely over to a meal replacement regime before reverting to eating 'normally'. i don't know, and ultimately I don't really care - if it works for you then go ahead, just don't judge each other based on what works for them and what works for you being different.

docgeoffyjones

Eat less. Move around more

This is my least favourite sentence in the English language after "plus VAT"

I think [b][i]"calories in vs calories out"[/i][/b] is equally risible. It's explaining the why not the how. It's equivolent to saying "[i]if you want to be a father just have sex with a woman"[/i] well, yes but there's a lot more to it.

mazz

I find it completely frustrating that (and I know there's plenty of vested interests) despite this (in my view) being quite scientific, that the "experts" can't agree on the most effective way of sustaining weight loss.

People vary massively, in terms of tolerances, cravings, activity levels etc. I don't think there will be a best way for everyone. For me it was cutting out sugar and refined carbs along with eating lots of healthy fats.

Losing weight is very much like....

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?

It starts off with a chubby, and ends up with you losing your (man)fat?

?

I'll be a bit drunk and it'll all be done in a couple of minutes?

I think most people when they read "eat less" don't just eat 3/4 of a pie instead of a whole pie, they just cut out pies and replace it with something else. I could be wrong but I just don;t think the majority of people are so stupid as to think that by eating 80% of a mars bar they're doing much good (mind you, some people are extremely stupid, even the smart ones).

I've emailed my details - thanks!

Ah, we've hit the point of the thread where diets start being discussed.

One thing I'm not doing is calling it a diet. Except in the terms of "I'm changing my usual diet" as opposed to "I'm on a diet". For me the former is hopefully long-term the latter short term.

Guys ... I don't know if you knew this, but I've just been reliably informed, by the person who's just put a sausage and cheese panini down in front of me, that everything consumed on the lunchtime of Full Fat Fridays is calorie free 😀

Ive got no idea what im going to do. However ive read lots of websites that tell me i should eat clean and weight lift. In reality none of this is going to happen.

Im unsure how to progress without willpower.

everything consumed at lunchtime on the FFF is calorie free

I'm working to the similar plan that discounted M&S Christmas puds have proportionally discounted calorie values.
On my third so far this week.

please can we avoid it descending into another fight about why 'diets' don't work and so on.

+1 for keeping the thread for our chub-busting progress and avoiding the theory/dogma/bollocks.

There are hundreds of threads on here already where we can benefit from the wisdom of internet know-it-alls.

play your favourite piece of music whenever you leave something on your plate.

Now that the fancy new forum provides a Private Messaging capability are we submitting our updates via PM rather than e-mail now?

@ andybrad

1/ good article on willpower here http://lifehacker.com/5662132/youve-got-a-limited-supply-of-willpower-so-use-it-wisely and why it's not the be-all and end-all

2/ that said, it's a skill (the article likens it to a muscle) and can be trained; if you rely on it too much at the start you'll wear it out even easier. Willpower is more often used as 'don't do' - don't eat cakes, don't eat crisps, don't have a cigarette, etc...... use it for positive instead - if I can get through to lunch I'll allow myself a biscuit this afternoon with coffee - and then once you've had lunch you might not want the biscuit after all.

@ perchy - erm.... don't know, that was first I'd heard of it. How does it work / where do the messages arrive?

@theotherjonv - PM sent for testing purposes!

Edit : at the same time you sent me one for the same reason, it would seem.

might work - but looks a bit glitchy currently (message text was over the top of the message headers, etc.)

Let's stay with email for now, by the time we're all thin again it'll be fixed.

- and further - seems like as well as a PM I also get an email telling me I got a PM, so unless I can turn that off, doing it by PM will mean i get 72 emails as well as a load of hard to read PM's as opposed to just 72 emails.

I'm unconvinced so far.....

I stick to email. More reliable.

As jonv said do whatever you think works for you..

Heres my approach and feel free to rip the whatever if you like

If in a few weeks/months time its not working then I will know that for me its the wrong approach if however it does.....

So quite simply im 236lb so need to do something as weight has crept up over the years (41years old)

What I have decided to do is the following

Cut out the alcohol, I'm not a regular drinker but could do £100 over a weekend going out for quality not quantity ale (how daft does that sound when you see the value of the spend?)

Cut out the sugar, never was a big fan of sweet stuff, even though I enjoy baking cakes, so instead I will bake for freinds/family

White Carbs, (Bread/Rice/Pasta/Potatoes) now this is a funny one as i have always found myself feeling bloated after indulging in these, and yes i know there is not a lot finer than fresh oven hot bread with cold butter and decent cheese, but as i can nver exercise restraint when i start, I feel for me its best to step away from it, in fact I have cut out bread completely for the time being, just sto see how i feel.

So I have taken a kind of paleo approach as someone described it to me, nothing preprepared and just fresh meat fish and vegtables and fruit, talkes a little meal prep, but so far so good.

Thats the food now about the exercise part, I enlisted a PT mid December, and i have a programme i am workiing on 2-3 days a week, which I then mix with a coomute on the other 3-2 days dependant, then maybe either a swim or a play on the muddy bike at the weekend

So 6 days into January and how do I feel, well my energy level is up a little this may be a result of the fact that im sleeping better, or could be a combination of no alcohol and just tired from exercise.

So thats me so far, I hope everyone is doing well and as I said pull my current method to pieces, but i will wait and see if it works, if not I'll eat my hat, well maybe not my hat, as its macro nutrient content i'snt in line with my eating plan.

Edit.. Wow its like my longest post..

Down from 118.6kg to 117.2kg 🙂 having a good first week.

Out for a pub meal tonight though, wish me look picking something healthy!

I have a saddle sore.

I've only ridden 10 sodding miles, and it's a proper bloody, puss filled & erupting one.

My arse currently looks like sudocream cat.

I have a stinking cold which put paid to plans for a ride this morning and will most likely scupper a 100km ride this weekend.

It's also making me eat sugary things so my brain will function enough to work (freelances don't get sick days).

🙁

I've only ridden 10 sodding miles, and it's a proper bloody, puss filled & erupting one.

*puts down sandwich*

Here's a good recipe that seems to keep me away from Takeaways (or at least helps)

I posted this on STW on another diet thread 6 years ago!!!

[i]This recipe was invented by me has no exact amounts and is not in anyway authentic but it is tasty and seems healthy.

Make all of this in a really big pan

Fry 2 massive onions chopped into big(ish) pieces in as little oil (teaspoon?) as you dare. If you’ve got some garlic throw that in as well, can't hurt, and when you think they are looking nice, add a bit of water to the pan. They should be sort of brown(ish) and soft.

Chuck in some tinned tomatoes, 2 or 3 tins usually does it, (depends on how tomatoey you like it).

Chop up 2 Butternut Squashes in to pieces that are a bit bigger than an oxo cube and throw them in the pot.

Slice up 3 red & 3 green chilies

Some mixed herbs and a bit of paprika go in

Peas, peppers, raisins, apple all seem to work well.

Throw in a liberal amount of curry power (half of one of those Tesco pots usually)
Simmer for about an hour to break down the squash and thicken.

And because you've made loads put into old chinese tubs and freeze. Easy dinner when your knackered and fancy a takeaway.

Tastes good, eat with brown rice add a bit chicken do what you like, no rules

Apart from 1 teaspoon of oil and curry powder everything that goes in is pretty good for you
[/i]

HTH 😀

*puts down sandwich*

Have a cherry danish instead.

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1 week in, 2lb gone here too. Down from 187 to 185...

So far all I've done is cut down intake (not cut out) of various things including sugar, refined carbs. Oh and I've not had a drink since the 29th Dec either...

One "diet" that has been recommended to me is to cut out carbs in the evening full stop. I'm normally a glutton in the evening, which is a bad habit I know. Really going to focus on eating less food in the evening, and eat my dinner earlier than normal (10pm is quite common for me!). Cut the potatoes out of my evening meal last night (so just had chicken and veg) and didn't miss them as much as I thought I would, but woke up feeling a lot less bloated than I would normally.

Next step will be to gradually start pre preparing more meals, eating healthier equivalents etc.

Like IHN says, to keep the weight off it's got to become habit. I know I can lose a stone in 2 weeks if I need to, I'd just live on cabbage soup and only drink water or black coffee! Don't fancy even starting it mind, let alone trying to keep it up!

Well the toothache was upgraded to abscess and has helped me lose over 5lbs since Tuesday. Only calorie intake has been from soup and stella. The antibiotics have started to work now though, so concerned that once my mouth isn't so sore that I might start eating again.

Soup and Stella? Officially proven to be the diet of champions

mboy

One "diet" that has been recommended to me is to cut out carbs in the evening full stop. I'm normally a glutton in the evening, which is a bad habit I know. Really going to focus on eating less food in the evening, and eat my dinner earlier than normal (10pm is quite common for me!).

Apparently the "no carbs in the evening rule" is based on a survey from the 80s which showed that people who ate carbs in the evening were likely to be fatter.

Unsurprisingly people who generally eat carbs late at night are less athletic, and more often the type of carbs people eat at night are likely to be crisps, chips pizzas etc this is compounded by the fact that salty carbs will make your body hold water making you appear to have gained weight, but there's nothing magical about carbs at night as opposed to other foods.

Sorry if that comes across as

chakaping
theory/dogma/bollocks.

or

the wisdom of internet know-it-alls.

Just remember folks, the first week is the easiest, and more weight comes off.

Gets harder soon 😀

I haven't weighed myself, but have been reAlly good this week. No bread, fizzy drinks or beer. Have been running and high speed dog walking ( a slower form of running which can also result in dislocated shoulders) . This evening however the depression has kicked me in the bollocks and I have eaten a shit load of pizza and coke (no hookers tho ). Back on the wagon again tomorrow. Rice instead of bread, no fuzzy drinks, very low sugar intake etc etc....

I have eaten a shit load of pizza and coke (no hookers tho )

Glad to hear it.

Eating hookers is against the law.........and they go right on yer hips.

I believe you can eat them ou..... no best not you don't know where they've been!

This evening however the depression has kicked me in the bollocks and I have eaten a shit load of pizza and coke

Did you have them in the house already?

Mrs Vader bought them home and cooked them. So I would have been having chicken and veg... still what's done is done. Work it off tomorrow....

Just remember folks, the first week is the easiest, and more weight comes off.

Awesome! I put on 4 ounces...

Shite, last month I put my gym membership on hold as I was having surgery on a toe, I've just discovered it didn't come into force until this month...

..that's toe bad.

Don't be so de-feet-ist, schribvkckejenddebdsskkchh6.

Just eaten a big packet of Doritos with the kids and washing it down with a lager. Not been a good day diet wise.

Good job the weigh in is Friday mornings!

**** sake...

Rang the GF asking what she wanted for dinner, trying to be good I said "how about something light and healthy like a stir fry"...

Chicken Kebab and chips was her response!

🙄

So glad it's not just me!!!

binners - Member
Soup and Stella? Officially proven to be the diet of champions

I'm sure some former fatty celeb will be promoting the soup and stella diet with a book and dvd in the near future.

**** sake...

Rang the GF asking what she wanted for dinner, trying to be good I said "how about something light and healthy like a stir fry"...

Chicken Kebab and chips was her response!

Maybe she prefers you chubby?

Chicken Kebab and chips was her response!

To be honest you went about it all the wrong way.

If you had rang saying "What would you like from the takeaway; I'm thinking a greasy kebab", you would have elicited a response that would have inferred "I'd like the total opposite to what you're suggesting".

You'd get man-points for listening to what she said, you'd get what you wanted, plus some exercise into the bargain for being such a great bloke.

..and let's face it, no gusset was ever wrecked with the line:

how about something light and healthy like a stir fry?

Major pangs earlier ended up running errands after work so was late back..

I'm just glad I cleared all temptation from house, so turned left over chicken into a banging curry with cauliflower rice

Not as good as a regularf riday night special, but the chilli kick helps

2.5lbs down this morning despite a crap day yesterday food wise. Treating as a blip and forgetting about it. Got a run later and 1st club ride with my new bike club tomorrow, going to be hanging off the back!

Good going Rocco, sounds like a decent start! I had 2/3rds of a bottle of red and an entire lindt bear last night *facepalm*

I've got 2 late shifts this weekend, which usually involves takeaway pizza/Chinese/curry for dinner, but instead I've just lifted my roast veg and cajun spiced chicken breasts out of the oven to take with me. 8)

Maned to get 7lbs off as of yesterday (they are probably just the ones I gained over a few days at Xmas) bit last night I went out for a meal for my birthday and had a few drinks so will have gained a bit back

7lbs in a week?

I am very very fat so there is plenty to lose 😉 and I ate even more than normal for the week before I started this.

but I am not taking any other than the fornightly weight as fact as as mentioned that could just be a good day in terms of what it appears like.

perfect example, where weight fluctuates. If you weigh next week and you're 6lbs down on starting weight you should be delighted but the impulse is to be disappointed because you're a lb higher than this one-off 😉

I [s]am[/s] [b]used to be[/b] very very fat

but now you aren't as fat. Go you!

Had to move our sheds today, Christmas chub came in handy for once, I could apply body weight to just shunt them round. They're in place now so I can lose it all now.

Had to move our sheds today, Christmas chub came in handy for once, I could apply body weight to just shunt them round. They're in place now so I can lose it all now.

I know what you mean - got a new king size mattress delivered today. Had to get the old one down the stairs - with bend - and into the back of the car, then to the tip, back out the car, up the ramp and into the skip.

Back home, new mattress up the stairs - with bend - and onto the bed.

I'm going back to the tip tomorrow to buy their skip of mattresses. There is a market for some sort of Boot Camp exercise class involving shoving large heavy mattresses round a field, and when you've had enough you can drop it on the ground for a rest 😀

You could call yourself Daniel Bedinfield.

😀

MoreCasha Bedinfield surely

:applause:

So no weigh in tomorrow, correct?