[Closed] STW Chub Club 2017

TINAS... I will join you for some chubby action in swinley. Mondays 6.30 would suit (as would pretty much any other day apart from friday).

Live about 1 min from start of blue so pretty flexible.

I usually ride my chubby like me bike (29+) but happy to cross or single speed it if others want to mix it up a bit.

I reckon we meet start of blue just because that's easier for more people to join in. I have set up a Doddle poll so anyone who wants to join us can register:

https://doodle.com/poll/qpakah2hmvfnp5cg

I'm on my singlespeed, but may be tempted to bring the fatty out if my legs feel upto it.

The Lookout works just as well, I'm tight fisted and come from that direction anyway so refuse to drive the extra 5 minutes in order to pay to park! I'd have suggested the divecrew car park, but the potholes are getting beyond a joke!

Slightly amended tubby busting plan:
18:15 From Muzzy's and ride in from there.
18:30 from the trailhead at the Lookout.

Times are prompt and rule #87 is in effect, arrive 15minutes early if you want to faff, put your rack in the back of the car, piss, eat kebab.

I'll post an actual thread at the weekend to see if any non-tubby but still unfit want to join in.

Note that BMI is more suited to a population measurement than an individual but it is at least a reasonably objective measurement. It's also aimed at generally sedentary subjects and doesn't deal with very athletic subjects, like rugby players, very well.

Yea, but 90% of people are kidding themselves if they think they're the one on the right.............

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@theotherjonv - That's the problem with "general" guidelines, the distribution curve is too narrow so as soon as you aren't sedentary then then guidelines don't fit. Even at slightly below my current weight, I'm good for 200Km ITTs. Obviously another 5Kg or 6Kg less weight would be even better.

At the other end of the scale I've seen a guideline for racing cyclists: take height in inches and that's your weight in Kg. So if you are 6ft tall, 72", then you should weight 72Kg. If I applied that to myself then I'd look like Keith Richards warmed up (old Spitting Image joke), I've not been that weight since around puberty!

I'll play if I may?

208lbs now
targets:
202lbs 27th Jan
192lbs 31 March
185 30th June

Thanks very much and good luck everyone!

At the other end of the scale I've seen a guideline for racing cyclists: take height in inches and that's your weight in Kg. So if you are 6ft tall, 72", then you should weight 72Kg. If I applied that to myself then I'd look like Keith Richards warmed up (old Spitting Image joke), I've not been that weight since around puberty!

I used a racing weight calculator for endurance athletes and it put me at about 64kg.

I fully accept that's the weight I'd need to be to race at elite level, but fortunately I don't have any plans to do so.

🙂

At the other end of the scale I've seen a guideline for racing cyclists: take height in inches and that's your weight in Kg.

Can someone donate me 10kg of chub, I seem unable to get up to my racing weight... 😀

@cha****ng - yeah, about forty years too late for me to consider being at that level 😳

One calculator gives a range of 60-75Kg and another reckons 80Kg. That's a 33% difference! This [url= http://www.runningshoesguru.com/2014/11/a-formula-to-calculate-your-ideal-running-weight/# ]running one[/url] uses something similar to what I mentioned earlier, namely 2lbs for every inch of body height then uses a fudge factor, for me that would come out at around 66Kg which is even less likely than 75Kg.

@fifeandy - I'll happily donate some of mine 😆

Should those of us who have signed up be expecting anything in our email inboxes?

Can i get some thoughts on mixed nuts and raisins as a snack?

I bought some to graze on as a substitute for pastries and chocolate! But, I've just seen the calories on the pack and it's pretty awful. My colleague kindly pointed out that I could've had two crunchies for the same calories!

Surely nuts and raisins are better from a nutrition point of view despite the calories? They definitely help my feel fuller for longer so I guess there's that to factor in....

Moderation, innit.

Should those of us who have signed up be expecting anything in our email inboxes?

I got nothing. Was hoping for a welcome back with complimentary coupons for the local spa and fitness centre, but nope.

Worse diet plan ever.

I got nothing. Was hoping for a welcome back with complimentary coupons for the local spa and fitness centre, but nope.

Worse diet plan ever

That was only for those of us that signed up to the gold level plan.

Surely nuts and raisins are better from a nutrition point of view despite the calories? They definitely help my feel fuller for longer so I guess there's that to factor in....

There is of course the MTFU option; don't snack. It's more often habit than necessity.

Should those of us who have signed up be expecting anything in our email inboxes?

"Oi!.....Fatty! ......Put that cake down and go for a walk!"

Motivational, innit?

73 kg starting weight - like to get to 65 - but also add muscle so we'll see how that goes....

@IHN

There is that!

I don't tend to eat breakfast though. I just never feel hungry when I wake up but then I start to feel it mid-morning. So that's were the nuts come in. I can't get through until lunch without anything so I need to find something I can eat then that also fits around work. I guess it's just moderation as Jamie says. I guess I just never clocked how calorific it is for what, to me, seems a relatively healthy option.

Should those of us who have signed up be expecting anything in our email inboxes?

Once entrance closes tonight - then I'll send a link out to everyone.

then I'll send a link out to everyone.

A link is some kind of chocolate bar, yes?

I haven't had a packet of crisps, or anything pastry based for 4 days now. My body has just gone into toxic shock

I don't tend to eat breakfast though. I just never feel hungry when I wake up but then I start to feel it mid-morning. So that's were the nuts come in.

Option 1 - eat breakfast. Then you will get through to lunch.

Option 2 - If you do need to snack, lean protein - like diced chicken breast. For variation I make mini 'quiches' - 2 eggs, some spinach, bit of tabasco or Worcestershire sauce, all whisked up in a jug. Pour into small silicone muffin or cake cases and then microwave until done. Then you can snack on those when the time comes that you're hungry.

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I haven't had a packet of crisps, or anything pastry based for 4 days now. My body has just gone into toxic shock

Yesterday was the first day for, well, er, I don't know, that my booze consumption was zero. I really, really struggled to get to sleep, I'm not sure that's a good sign 😐

For variation I make mini 'quiches'

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are you calling me a racist?

Not at all, you obviously have a thing for 'dusky' men; look at the dildo you're holding 🙂

E mail sent. I'm in.

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nothing received. You're not.

(yet)

Curses to your obscure middle initial and my poor reading skills!

Sent to the right address now (I hope)

yep, right address but info still missing.....

Dammit! Told you my reading skillz were poor! Info sent.

It's coz my eyelids are too chunky to open fully and me fingers is too fat to type. 😳

Currently 13.5 to 14st plan to get to 12.5 to 13st by end of march but when my wife is a great cook and doesn't want me to loose any weight I'm gonna have a struggle on my hands

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/dry-january-man-accused-of-putting-long-term-health-before-mates-20170104119600 ]Some sage advice from the Mash[/url] unless you get too carried away 😀

LBS PLEASE FOR ANYONE ELSE THINKING OF JOINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can i get some thoughts on mixed nuts and raisins as a snack?

Not necessarily totally bad 1. depends on the size of the portion, a small handful will be fine (although the raisins are especially sugar dense), tipping the whole packet into your gawping maw, less so. 2. still better than chocolate, 3. but better still would be have a good breakfast, and try either drinking water when you're hungry, or as jonv points out, try something without sugar; like protein.

Can i get some thoughts on mixed nuts and raisins as a snack?

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Some sage advice from the Mash unless you get too carried away

Can't check your link as off potatoes 🙁

[i]Not convinced the "mediterranean diet" is working for me.[/i]

Spanish eating schedule = massive dinner late at night ?

No - where we are they only eat a small meal at night. The big meal is late afternoon. My problem is with the other 5 meals a day!

Hope I'm not too late to join in.

Currently 196lbs (89kg) with a 37" waist. Want to get back to 176lbs (80kg) with a 33" waist.

Month 1 192 lbs
Month 3 184 lbs
Month 6 176 lbs

Just........

Have now emailed everyone with a link (read only I hope) to the spreadsheet. Check your details, email me any amends if needed, keep the discussion ongoing on here (and the epic bantz) and first weigh in is in 9 days time.

Go it and it looks good.

Just made a big pan of winter veg soup. Let battle commence . . .

Not to be a special snowflake, but did anyone else not get the email?

Edit: Found it in Gmail's spam folder. Guessing the Chub Club got it rerouted.

no bounced emails at my end - sent to your gmail address you used to email me.

edit - seen your edit now

Yep, mine was in my spam folder as well, now flagged as 'not spam'. Great job John V!

No email and checked Spam 😕

IGM

Nice work Margot 🙂

Got mine thanks - it was in spam!!

9 days to first weigh-in,madness,I'll have to saw a leg off !!

Mmmm spam.

9 days to first weigh-in,madness,I'll have to saw a leg off !!

Yeah, but the first target date is till 27th, so you can hold off the self amputation till then.

Tiger - no bounced email my end, let me send you another to the address you used to send me your targets and is the one I've saved, which I note is different to the one in your profile.

Nice work jonv

More Chins than a Chinese phonebook in that spreadsheet! But not for much longer let's hope...

Mine was also in the spam folder for some reason.

What time of day are people weighing themselves. Pre-turbo I weighed myself last night and was 1.5kg lighter than after breakfast. I'm happy to take the weight loss but I guess I need to pick one time of day.

First thing in the morning is standard?

1st thing, post pee, pre dump.

Did 30km of commuting on Tuesday, 45km of (hilly) commuting yesterday and have eaten under my calorie goal all week.

This mornings commute was very slow and steady!

I've even resisted the mountain of unwanted chocolate and shortbread that everyone brought into the office!

Doing well so for in 2017! 🙂

Not sure about hitting the strava climbing challenge this month though, I'm sure it was 4500m last year, it's 7500m this year!

Not sure about hitting the strava climbing challenge this month though, I'm sure it was 4500m last year, it's 7500m this year!

Yeah I saw that, and thought they had gone too far for this time of year.

I'm going to try to put some rides in in Zwift on the mountain route. The weather here is variable but not in any sort of good way. It's around zero today but slush all over the roads. Tomorrow it's going to be -7 with frozen slush. Maybe I'll try the MTB tomorrow.

Weighing? Get up, have a pee, get on scales. Basically it's the one time of day least likely to be affected by other factors like eating or exercise.

Doesn't really matter when you weigh yourself, just as long as it's the same every week. Likewise with using the same day, hence why i like to do it friday am before any weekend excesses* - even then I see that it wouldn't matter if I chose Monday morning instead as long as it was always Monday morning - the difference is what matters (but i still prefer Friday because the absolute will also be smaller)

* not that my excesses are vast, but I'm 5:2ing this which means 2 fast days (M or Tu and W or Th usually depending on my work and travel schedule), staying as good as I can be on non-fast days (clean eating where poss, trying to manage to about 2200cals/day, trying to get a couple of proper exercise sessions in as well) and then Sat/Sun still being good but if we're going out with the family to eat then we're going to enjoy it.

I also like Fridays for the purposes of running chubclub because I then have the w/end to do the updates. So - it's Fridays for you lot as well.

I also caught up on the TV diet / eating program yesterday and one other (simple, but obvious) change I'm making is I'm going to chew my food more. I counted chews last night eating 'normally' and it's usually 10 or so and swallow. I really choz it down. 35 chews seems excessive, but increasing to 25 seemed to be achievable and it gives my gut chance to feel full at the same rate as it is filling as opposed to continuing to shovel stuff in and then the full feeling catching up.

Yeah, I need to eat more slowly/chew more too. This should also lead to a reduction in burpage/fartage, which will have the added benefit of reducing the whinging from MrsIHN.

Really impressed to see the enthusiasm and commitment here...best of luck to all of you. I'm a few pounds over racing weight myself but don't feel the need to join in, it will come off easily enough now christmas is over and I'm training again properly.

ask us again in 2 week's time 😉

I've got some good motivation to keep me on track, my brother was my size around 18 months ago but now he's a proper racing snake (I think he's under 12 stone now, and about 6ft tall).

He's got an FTP of around 350, came 7th in the last kielder 101 (!!) and has just started with a proper coach.

I'll get severe abuse from him if I fail! Plus he's really supportive, even gave me a better garmin than the one I had.

It'll be nice to do some epic rides with him again, at the min on our 2/3 hours rides he gets bored and I'm struggling by the end.

My other goal for this year is to do a 100km ride. Been about 8 years since I've done that...

Well I just walked in to our absolutely brilliant local bakery and when faced with rows of delicious pies, pasties and sausage rolls, purchased a tuna salad roll/bap/barm/whatevs

It was really nice too

I haven't had a single packet of crisps this year

I don't know who I am any more 😥

Well I just walked in to our absolutely brilliant local bakery and when faced with rows of delicious pies, pasties and sausage rolls, purchased a tuna salad roll/bap/whatevs

It was really nice too

purchased a tuna salad roll/bap/barm/whatevs

Now just to get rid of the bread, and you're there!

What kind of a life is that?!!!

What kind of a life is that?!!!

Fat and happy or thin and miserable.

Flick a bride.

Pick a side.

Round doesn't have sides.

True. But is does have back....

Fat and happy or thin and miserable.

Apparently Kate Moss once said "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"

I can only assume she's never tasted a good lamb tikka jalfrezi, pilau rice, stuffed paratha, couple of poppadoms and a selection of pickles.

True. But is does have back....

....and also pi. 😉

I can only assume she's never tasted a good lamb tikka jalfrezi, pilau rice, stuffed paratha, couple of poppadoms and a selection of pickles.

I imagine she never has an appetite. No idea why.

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That and 60 Marlboro reds a day will have prevented the unbridled and truly life-affirming joy of the 3am donner kebab with everything on

On balance I think I'm winning 🙂

IHN Kate has a special routine, a friend of a friend was once hired to do catering at weekend house party she hosted. They ate nothing and she tried to leave without paying for the food. Allegedly.

So far I am going in the wrong direction 😐

They ate nothing and she tried to leave without paying for the food. Allegedly.

So far I am going in the wrong direction

And I'm in the wrong business!

A catering business where you only have to display the food so it looks nice, but nobody eats it, so you get to scoff yourself silly AND get paid for the privilege!

Apparently Kate Moss once said "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"

That's the same as people who say that sex "isn't all that"... They're doing it wrong!

I can only assume she's never tasted a good lamb tikka jalfrezi, pilau rice, stuffed paratha, couple of poppadoms and a selection of pickles.

Close, but I reckon the Indian down the road from my GF's flat wins... Can't remember the name of it, but they do a Chicken Tikka Jalfrezi main in a thick lamb mince sauce, and I have a side of Bombay Aloo too. Mixed together it's EXACTLY how you might imagine a spicy Shepherds pie with some chicken tikka chunks thrown in for good measure!

All after a few popadoms, lashings of onion salad (there was a thread all about how to brew the most rancid farts a few months ago, it's a winner trust me!), a stuffed pepper (hey, gotta get some veg in there somewhere eh!) and all washed down with a few pints of Cider... Don't normally stop for dessert, normally got a couple of Cornetto's or (even better) a Vienetta in the fridge waiting for when we get back!

Anyone else surprised I'm [b]only[/b] 13st5?!?! I'm beginning to wonder how I manage... 😳

Nothing tastes better than a 3am kebab. [b]NOTHING!!![/b]

had a minor wobble today and ate some sweets that are hanging around that I have avoided the rest of this week, but today was a more physical day than usual in work so hopefully balances out!

Should have a new battery for my light delivered tomorrow as well so I can start riding to work on monday. Not weighed at very consistent times of day to be accurate so far but looks like a few pounds have gone ( I hope)

Don't sweat it. That's why I advocate weighing at most weekly, if not fortnightly. A bad day measured daily will show as a gain, and it's harmful to the mentality. One bad day out of 7 or 14, has the same effect of course but you don't get that feeling of having 'failed' when the fortnight still shows as a 4lb loss even if it 'could' have been 4.5 or 5.

Which you haven't of course - we're all human and a treat every now and then is perfectly OK. It's a long term game this, not one of who lost most today.

Nothing tastes better than a 3am kebab. NOTHING!!!

Goodness Gracious Me did a great radio sketch about having spotted a gap in the market for lunchtime kebabs as the current offerings where nonwhere near as good as the late night ones

Week one (unofficial) weigh in: 87.9 kg, down from 88.7.

Solid start; no booze and back walking the mile to work, that's what that is.

I suspect my original scales were a little out but I weighed in at 83.6 down from 86 at the weekend. I could just claim to be an awesome dieter but I guess the old scales were probably 1kg out at least.

That said, I've been pretty good with the food, not had a bevvy and it's bloody freezing here so burning more to keep warm. Real impact (I suspect) is about 1kg in the last week.

So... fist bump/high five to IHN and a self-five to me.

I'm late to the party but have just sent a mail.

Weight now - 93kg
1 Month - 90KG
3 month - 87KG
6 month - 85KG

Or something like that anyway, not really sure on how to manage the progression but I do know 85kg is the end goal.

I am 6'4" to add some sense to those weights but want to get to something close to a "climbers weight".