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stones and lbs is easy enough, I seem to have the intervals imprinted now
11st = 154lbs (yes, there are some on here that are aiming for 11st targets and even some that are already in that camp. Charlatans!)
12 = 168
13 = 182
14 = 196
15 = 210
16 = 224 (there's a fair few more in this echelon.....)
But kg to lbs is just a pita.
Sorry, this is the 21st century so I use Kg. If you must use outdated measurements then multiply by 2.2 will be close enough.
Tongue most definitely in cheek 😉
While I think it is only fair to reduce theotherjonv's work and provide in the units of his choice. I can't help but be reminded of this:
http://imgur.com/gallery/iDOzAa5
Metric all the way.
Personally I prefer metric but most people started supplying in st and lbs so i went with the flow.
Now everyone's decided it'll be a laugh to change their minds. On the plus side I've already lost half a pound (0.227kg if you must) just from the exertion of recalculating them all on my calculator.
hang on, a bit of excel fu can convert lbs to kg and vice versa. Probably stone too as I guess we don't have my STW people under 20kg so you can make an assumption that any low number is stone.
Am I too late? Have emailed you Jon.
Anyway, the time has come to accept that I cannot drink and eat like a teenager anymore. My racing weight is 154lbs, last seen in 2013, but I'm aiming for a more realistic 162lbs by month 6.
Height 5'9" Age 38
Current weight (as of Jan 2) 177lbs
Month 1 target 172 lbs
Month 3 target 167 lbs
Month 6 target 162 lbs
kg <-> lbs is easy in excel (times or divide by 2.2 as above)
kg/lbs to stones and lbs is a massive PITA in excel (from previous Fat Club running).
So do I need to send all my current weight and target stuff in again in lbs? Or just lbs from now on?
In fact, here you go as a rough mess about.
=IF(A2<30,A2*14,IF(A2<120,A2*2.2,A2))
Assumptions are weight is in A2.
If less than 30 the number is in stone (I guess we have nobody >= 30 stone)
If less than 120 the number is in kg (nobody weighs under 8.5 stone)
Otherwise it's in lbs
It converts them all to lbs. Obviously if someone puts 12 stone 5lbs then you're on your own but if you record it as =12+5/14 then it'll also work.
No, just lbs from now on.
Once all the new members are in and it dies down a bit I might copy the worksheet over and then recalc everything in kg as well, but all inputs will remain in lbs (or st and lbs if you want, as above i can do them in my head now)
and this is being done on google docs so not all excel functionality translates, thanks.
Not convinced the "mediterranean diet" is working for me.
Spanish eating schedule = massive dinner late at night ?
Maybe around for rides March onwards in Hampshire, Winchester / Southampton or occasional schlep upto Swinley. Could "lead/guide" (I am always last uphill) in Surrey Hills if people fancy a (half) day out. Can do xc style and a few hills / bidleways rather than shuttling trails. Anything from 30-60km by May/June. Still planning to do 40km Winchester to Hamble (most of the climbing (only 250m) in first 10k then downhill to coast), train back or leave a car. Could be a nice early summer day out, seaside and beer reward 😉
That "formula" still works on google docs... obviously you've got it sorted though 🙂
To clarify.
Now - 118.6kg 😳 (261 lbs)
1 month goal - 115.6kg (255 lbs)
3 month goal - 109.6kg (242 lbs)
6 month goal - 100.6kg (222 lbs)
Is that sill optimistic? I thought a couple of lbs a week seemed ok?
Chub Club rides
Rob likes this idea!
Am in Reading, but train Mon - Thurs evenings, so riding generally limited to Sundays.
Could take the odd evening off for a pootle.
I think you're going to be hungry 🙂
On my 1400-1500 calories I'm famished and that's about the same weight loss. I can up it tonight as I'm going to be riding 😉
@grenosteve - generally the slower the weight loss the more likely you are to maintain your final weight. A crash diet makes the body revert to its inbuilt "There's a famine coming up" response so you end up continually fighting that: you are saying "I need to lose weight" and your body is saying "I need to lay down some reserves to deal with this upcoming famine". Think back to when you were last your target weight, it's likely to be in the order of years if not decades so your body's got used to "the new you", you need to give it time to adjust to how you want it to be. Not saying that you should take ten years to lose the weight but think long term rather than trying to lose it all in two months or whatever.
Somewhere between 0.5Kg and 1Kg per week is probably the upper limit. There'll be weeks where you lose a couple of Kg but that's as likely to be from extra exercise or other factors.
On my 1400-1500 calories I'm famished
You don't have to be - there are a few tricks that you can employ
1/ Find out what foods fill you up (generally for me = protein, so maybe some lean chicken as a snack staves off the need to go for the biscuits). I do 5:2 so on the 2 days I generally have eggs / omelette for breakfast to get me through to evening meal.
2/ You can kid your tummy that it's 'full' by drinking warm / hot water. Which is rank, but with a bit of flavour (like a bit of a stock cube, or some bovril or marmite or chilli sauce) it's palatable. Or green tea, or some other metrosexual type drink. In calories terms it's <10 so starjump while waiting for the kettle and you'll actually be better off!
3/ 'No-one was ever hungry on a skydive' In other words instead of sitting there thinking about being hungry, do something that occupies you until the hunger passes.
But kg to lbs is just a pita.
No it's not. Just double the kg figure then add on 10% of the new number.
So for 70kg: double 70 to get 140, then add on 14 to get 154lbs.
89.2kg here by the way, up from 87.7 at the beginning of Dec. Since we're sharing.
theotherjonv - that's what I am doing... I have to work during the day but my "habit" at work is to snack when I get peckish as I can't always eat meals on time etc. This is just adaptation.
Just double the kg figure then add on 10% of the new number.
But it isn't is it?
That's only good as far as small kg's goes, once you get into bigger numbers the extra 0.005 becomes relevant.
So what's 89.2kg in lbs then. Properly, in your head? 178.4 + 10% = 196.24 - but then add on the other half a pound due to the inexact conversion - so 196.7 or so??? A real PITA.
@theotherjonv Quite a bit of our calorie intake is habitual/ritual in nature: a biscuit with your cup of tea; a chocolate from the tin that's being handed round; etc. One technique for identifying these is to keep a food diary and against each and every item put a number 1 - 5 indicating how hungry you were at the time, where 5 is absolutely starving and 1 means you just ate it "because" (note that all alcohol should be logged as zero). No doubt there are apps that will do something similar.
Once you see what your eating habits truly are (and you have to be honest since the only person being lied to is yourself) then you can start to change them, either by cutting out the snacks/habitual eating or by replacing with healthier or lower calorie foodstuffs.
Re: converting Kg to lbs. You don't have to be 100% exact since it's not the absolute value that's important but the change and since you are applying the same error to both old and new values the percentage change will be the same. I wouldn't trust any bathroom scales to have an accuracy of better than 0.5Kg anyway so 88.57Kg might as well be 88.5Kg. 70g is sod all, drinking a cup of tea or having a leak will change your weight by a greater amount.
3/ 'No-one was ever hungry on a skydive' In other words instead of sitting there thinking about being hungry, do something that occupies you until the hunger passes.
I tried to start a Skydiving Club for dieting, but it just never took off.
Quite a bit of our calorie intake is habitual/ritual in nature
I agree. It's certainly a factor and a food diary is usually quite a stark realisation when you add up the little bits of extra we all indulge in. There are of course others - portion control; psychological, etc.
I lost a decent amount 4 years ago, from 16st to 13st give or take. Now I'm back at 15st. A year ago i was still 13st something, albeit a double digit something but not much more than a few pounds off a happy weight for me, which would be around 13-7. But instead of the improving seasons leading to more activity leading to shedding those few lbs, I got depression instead. i couldn't be arsed to ride, my weight rose and I started to comfort eat instead. Spot how all that turned out........
That lead to this http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/inspire-me-please which in turn leads back to this http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/stw-chub-club-2017
bottom line, we've fixed on lbs now. It's irrelevant how easy or accurate it is to convert because we aren't ****ing using kg 😉
So, as I need to send in my current weight, can I guess at 19 stone and give my Jan target as 14? 😉
ps. I refuse to do it in lbs as that's like, American innit.
I went through a similar cycle (sic) at around the same time with similar weight loss and regain. Need to shed a few twigs (or branches) 😳
I'd have preferred kg as it's more "pro", but at least with lbs you get two for the price of one.
I'm not the type for a proper diet or food diary, but I'm aiming to try to cut my snack intake by about half initially.
I have become worryingly cake-dependent over the last year, so I reckon there are some easy gains to be made.
I'm not the type for a proper diet or food diary, but I'm aiming to try to cut my snack intake by about half initially.I have become worryingly cake-dependent over the last year, so I reckon there are some easy gains to be made.
My thoughts too, plus cut out mid-week drinking. That should reduce my calorie intake a fair bit. If that isn't enough to shift the lard, I'll have a look at the 5:2 diet.
@ransos - I used the 5:2 diet, went from 100Kg to 78Kg in around 6 months, now back at 88Kg but I think that somewhere around 82Kg is about right for me with current work/lifestyle.
Not every diet regime works for everyone though, my mate lost a similar amount but by a different plan.
I started using my fitness pal in November. I wanted to loose some weight before Christmas and try to come out of the other side the same weight as I was mid December. Not easy when you have works do's and big meals with family etc..
It almost worked - I was 120kg in November, and 118kg mid December. I'm quite happy I only put on .6 of a kg over the two weeks of Christmas, and I'm sure after commuting all this week I'll be back to 118.
I would advise everyone to try if for a week or so. I don't weigh food or go too overboard with it, just take an educated guess based on the packet sizes etc... It really opens your eyes to what's in food.
I learnt that a nice tea (roasted pepper filled with couscous, a Cajun seasoned roast chicken breast and a dollop of mint raita) has less calories than a flapjack from the local café - that I've had with my dinner every working day for the last 5 years!
I learnt that a nice tea (roasted pepper filled with couscous, a Cajun seasoned roast chicken breast and a dollop of mint raita) has less calories than a flapjack from the local café - that I've had with my dinner every working day for the last 5 years!
😯
*thinks of all the lardy cakes eaten with every lunch for the past couple of months or so 😥
I am sure you can cut down a lot on a few obvious things (pasta, spuds, rice / preprepared foods / bad snacks / booze )
That's me f###ed then! That's all my main food groups right there (rice aside, can't stand the stuff).
ps. I refuse to do it in lbs as that's like, American innit.
Couldn't agree more! I've been fighting a (what seems like) one man battle against the Americanisation (note the "s" not a "z") of our English language for many years now, I'll be damned if I'm going to stoop to their backwards measuring system!
Besides... Aren't we all proud Europeans on here? We should all be embracing the metric system much as we have the European Union! 😉
Anyway... On a serious note about weight loss... A few years ago I tried my own version of iDave's diet. That is to say I wasn't quite so hardline as he was about some foods, but tried to cut out carbs as much as possible and replace with veg, lean meats, eggs etc.
I lost 7lb in the first week! Yes, the first week!!!
My portion sizes were huge! I felt constantly hungry, so I ate enormous portions to counter this. Omelettes made with 6 eggs for instance, 2 chicken breasts instead of one, tonnes of veg and beans etc.
Yes I fell off the wagon quite quickly (proving that lasting weight loss comes from being able to maintain a regime that works for you), but if you need to lose weight fast, just cut the refined carbs out of your diet and replace with veg. You'll be shocked how quickly the weight falls off. You'll also crave carbs in a way only a 40 a day smoker that's just gone cold turkey would understand...
(note the "s" not a "z")
"...ization" is a perfectly correct, perfectly English spelling. It's not an Americanisation like 'color' or 'thru', although it's often trotted out by people who rage against such things 😉
[i]The suffix -ize has historically been used on words originating from Greek. -ise was used, especially as -vise, -tise, -cise and -prise, on words that come from various roots (usually via French). In the 19th century, it became common in the United Kingdom (due to French influence) to use -ise also on words that had historically been spelled -ize. -ise is also common in Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. -ize remains, however, the spelling used by the influential Oxford University Press; it has also always been the spelling used in the United States and Canada.[/i]
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ise#Usage_notes
I've got really bad toothache and I'm thinking of cancelling my dentist appointment as I've hardly eaten anything in the last 24hrs. I could really be on to something here.
I've got really bad toothache and I'm thinking of cancelling my dentist appointment as I've hardly eaten anything in the last 24hrs. I could really be on to something here.
I lost about 3kg during a bacterial throat infection, because I found swallowing extremely difficult. Mind you, my pee turned brown so I wouldn't recommend it...
Slow first day back at work IHN? 😉
On the subject of ailments and weight loss. Last time I had gastroenteritis I lost 10lb in 3 days!!! Again couldn't recommend it though, effective as it was I'm sure much of that was fluid loss anyway. If someone had handed me a gun at the time, I'm pretty sure I'd have ended it then and there!
Slow first day back at work IHN?
You betcha 🙂
In answer to the where on the world are you question, I'm in South Wales, between Cardiff and Swansea, in the valleys if anyone is local and fancies pushing me up the hills
I'm in the Louth / Grimsby are of Lincs. First day calorie counting today; not as hard as I had feared. Laying off the beer will be a bit dull.
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Anyone else watching "How to lose weight well" on Channel 4 right now? Actually a fair bit more informative than I thought it might be...
Finally weighed myself today. Jesus. How the hell did that happen? 😯
I'm 5'6" and, according to the scales, 14 stone 😳
No doubt ambitious targets, but if I stop being the lazy cow I was in 2016, they'll hopefully be doable.
1 month 188lbs
3 months 172lbs
6 months 148lbs
I've just had a donner kebab. There.... I've said it.
I didn't eat the pitta bread though. So we're all good, right? 😀
So we're all good, right?
No.
You disgust me.
*goes back to eating whittled down carrot sticks*
Protein, no refined carbs. Sounds good to me. 🙂
think the new battery in my scales is wrong
measured 256lbs (116kg)
anything under 220lbs (100kg) by 6 months would be good
gonna try hard this time
Salad too. It's a winner! 😀
the valleys if anyone is local and fancies pushing me up the hills
I'm always interested in new valleys trails, drop me a line.
think the new battery in my scales is wrongmeasured 256lbs (116kg)
anything under 220lbs (100kg) by 6 months would be good
gonna try hard this time
Could you wire trees on a turbotrainer? I still outbiff you by a lb anyway. 🙂
no, but could probably eat a kebab while on the turbo !
TINAS... I will join you for some chubby action in swinley. Mondays 6.30 would suit (as would pretty much any other day apart from friday).
Live about 1 min from start of blue so pretty flexible.
I usually ride my chubby like me bike (29+) but happy to cross or single speed it if others want to mix it up a bit.
I reckon we meet start of blue just because that's easier for more people to join in. I have set up a Doddle poll so anyone who wants to join us can register:
https://doodle.com/poll/qpakah2hmvfnp5cg
Hope I'm not too late to join in?
Desperately need to shift some lard and this will be another motivation. Need to play less golf and ride my bike more (if it can still take me) as well as cutting out snacks and beer. My Wife is a fitness junky so I have somebody close who is supporting me, just need to be less lazy and actually join her in the gym when she tells me to get off my fat arse!
Weighed on Monday at 298 lb 😯
1 month Target - 288 lb
3 month Target - 270 lb
6 month target - 250 lb
I've just had a donner kebab. There.... I've said it.I didn't eat the pitta bread though. So we're all good, right?
It's worth remembering that this doesn't all have to be Ryvita and mung beans, and eating nice food will make the whole thing more enjoyable and effective. If you steer away from the doner and towards the shish kebab it's a very healthy meal; grilled meat, salad, bit of carb and some chilli sauce to pep up the metabolism. Plus it's effing delicious 🙂
Kieran added.
Now 60 names 😯 This means i will not be chasing you individually for weigh ins!! I will post up on the thread at the appropriate time, and also send an email but then I need a simple response from you to my email containing
Your stw name
Your weight in lbs.
(If you have it in kg and need help converting, Cougar has offered to do it for you using his simple double it, add a number, take away your birthday, divide by your mother's maiden name and then add 3 technique. Or multiply by 2.205 if you want an accurate answer)
Weigh in day is every other Friday (except end Mar when there's an extra to account for 13 weeks in a quarter) but I'll remind you anyway, and I'll plan on doing the updates for Sun evening so there's no issue if you don't get me the data on Friday itself. I just like Friday because it's before the weekend and hence I can look good before releasing the reins slightly at the w/e, and also so i get the w/e to input your updates.
If you don't give me a figure I'll just roll over the last one you had. No 'expulsions' for non-reporting here, although obviously if you do decide to leave let me know and I'll delete you and avoid having to track you.
I'll leave it open until end of today for any last minute joiners, then will email the assembled mass (!) with a link where you can see the info.
Kieran - MemberHope I'm not too late to join in?
*stalks profile quickly*
Aaah, [i]that[/i] Kieran. Long time no see/ride.
Give me a shout if you fancy bringing the STW Cotswold Massiv (oh, the irony) back to life chap.
I've just emailed across my goals, hope its not too late for me to join.
I'm in.
Fell off my bike on some ice in 2013, tore ankle ligaments, put on a stone while I couldn't ride. I've maintained the gain since then. Time to shift it 🙂
Weighed in on Monday - 151 lbs
1 month target - 146 lbs
3 month target - 141 lbs
6 month target - 136 lbs
Email sent
Cheers
disco_stu and gerti, in.
I'm in too. theotherjonv, email sent!
Weighed in on Jan 1st before I spotted this thread - 113kg at 1.90cm. Not quite the heaviest I've ever been, but not far off 🙁
I'm also up for some Swinley Chub action - work at the end of the M3, so a 25min blast down in the car for me.
My toothache diet plan seems to be going well. So far MyFitnessPal has just 3 entries in the last 36 hours.
Mon dinner - Stella Artois 1200 cal
Tues lunch - Brioche swirl 155 cal
Tues dinner - tin of beans and pork sausages - 388 cal
Must remember to buy more Stella.
Another late entry to STW chub club, email sent.I hope I can squeeze in. 171lbs
1 month 167lbs
3 months 161lbs
6 months 154lbs at which point I will have BMI 21.4 (middle of healthy)
rs-89 and wally added. 950 stone of us now 😯
Almost as much as the Tongan pack.
regretting starting this yet jonv? 😉
I hadn't envisaged it being so big.....
as my wife said to me on our honeymoon.
She says that to all of us, I think it's just her standard line.
She was looking at Yosemite at the time.
Don't worry, Jon. By the end you'll only be getting about 10 emails.
😀
Can I be in too?
89.1kg.
im in,
Do you need a height? might be interesting to see how obese we all are.
It's worth remembering that this doesn't all have to be Ryvita and mung beans, and eating nice food will make the whole thing more enjoyable and effective. If you steer away from the doner and towards the shish kebab it's a very healthy meal; grilled meat, salad, bit of carb and some chilli sauce to pep up the metabolism. Plus it's effing delicious
Now now, stop poking fun at the fatties just cos you've only got a stone to lose! 😉
Motivational video #4531
@andybrad - there's a similar thread on the bearbones forums (I thought cycling was meant to keep us fit and healthy? 🙄 ) where you give target weight then current weight, BMI and gut circumference. 100Kg is somewhat different on someone 1.5m tall vs someone 2m tall.
Note that BMI is more suited to a population measurement than an individual but it is at least a reasonably objective measurement. It's also aimed at generally sedentary subjects and doesn't deal with very athletic subjects, like rugby players, very well.
Get some body fat calipers, £2 on Amazon 🙂
Can I be in too?
89.1kg.
If you actually read the thread, yes I am sure 😉
We've already had a "standards" argument. It's lbs and 1, 3 and 6 month targets. Email with username in the profile.
I hadn't envisaged [s]it[/s] my gut being so big.....
Perfect tagline for a weight loss thread ...
theotherjonv as the number of chubbies joining is increaseing by the minute, if you need any help at all then I'm more than happy to do so.
Molly, you can happily join but as Jamba noted need your targets rather than just starting point.
Muggo - thanks but now the s/sheet is set up I think it should be OK. 65 data points every 2 weeks shouldn't be too big an issue.
Ok no problem.
I thought cycling was meant to keep us fit and healthy?
There's the rub. I don't particularly consider myself unhealthy (at least not in a physical sense) compared to the general population. I'm carrying too much around the middle for my liking but my cholesterol is low, BP at the upper limits of acceptable but still acceptable, I can walk up and down hills for hours, I could get on the bike and ride for several hours at a reasonable intensity and up big hills without needing to get off and push, I can sprint for a bus without collapsing with hypoxia. I'm just too heavy for my liking, and if i was lighter i could ride further / faster and with even more enjoyment.
andybrad in