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Why do so many people on here argue with TJ?

This is a cyclists forum WTF does this happen? Is it 'cos they are all wrong and he's right?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:39 pm
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do you want a 5min arguement or the full half hour?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:40 pm
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I hope you avoided swerving while you posted that from your BMW?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:41 pm
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i have not argued with TJ I tend to agree with him.
DNATHT - does not apply to helmet threads.
Some people on here are argumentative apparently 😯


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:43 pm
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Because he challeges peoples views and is outspoken-I like the guy as he can have some good points at times.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:48 pm
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I can't help replying to 'holier than thou' posts, particularly when they go along the lines of 'you are an idiot for having your view, because my view is quite clearly correct'. Ahem, 'even though it isn't'.

It doesn't help when certain comments that get in the way of their 'correct-ness' get glossed over and ignored.

Some people seem to think that you can apply things in black & white to a situation where some grey is needed. Am I allowed to call them muppets?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:48 pm
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Because people [s]would[/s] have a[s]n otherwise[/s] sad and lonely life


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:49 pm
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What tyres for arguing with TJ?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:52 pm
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nobtwidler - it won't matter what you use; they'll always be wrong.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:54 pm
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Why do so many people on here argue with TJ?

It's a sport. It's good fun. TJ is good at it, and it's possible to have a good old banter with him without him copping a strop and calling everyone an A-hole. I reckon he's a nice bloke, one day I shall meet up with him I reckon.... 🙂


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 4:59 pm
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Believe it or not, bearing in mind the amount of traffic/threads on this site I think most arguments on here are quite good-natured and well behaved, compared with some forums.
Its fairly rare that the mods have to intervene 'cos someone resorted to calling someone else 'a big jobbie.'
I think theres a certain respect for peoples rights to start a good rammie!
BTW, I generally find myself agreeing with TJ,

Except he's too wishy-washy on the 'H' debate- " all h****t-wearers are effeminate losers, afraid to skite their nappers off the ground' is how I'd put it 😉


 
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He he he

I will try to give some sort of sensible answer.

On some subjects my views are far from the norm but based on knowledge not just the conventional view - I hope to make people think and maybe see the light.

On some ( such as the cars today) I think people on here are being hypocritical twonks and enjoy a bit of a wind up and making them be explicit in their hypocrisy

Sometimes its just pure devilment for the sport of debating.

I have tried to learn to learn, to apologise when wrong and not to wind folk up too much. I have learned that if one lives by the sword one must die by it as well.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:10 pm
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I reckon anyone who thinks that two people riding the same bike is a good idea, deserves to get some stick, imo.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:14 pm
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Posted : 10/02/2010 5:17 pm
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cos he enjoy's it, we all do, it is fun.
what makes teej a bit differant tho is that if you get under his skin, he sulks/throw's his teddy out/goes away.
he did it over there>>>> a while ago.
also, he is like a few others on here.............he likes to pull the 'IST OR ISM' card if he does not like your belifs/points of view.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:18 pm
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says it all really....

About what ? You ?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:20 pm
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"It is only the intellectually lost who ever argue."


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:24 pm
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Why do so many people on here argue with TJ?

Because otherwise he'd probably argue with himself, and nobody wants to see that.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:25 pm
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he likes to pull the 'IST OR ISM' card if he does not like your belifs/points of view

That's not the TJ I know.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:25 pm
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Thank you al.

I am flattered to get this speshul thread BTW


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:29 pm
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No worries TJ, just being honest - there's too many folk defending real points on that basis.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:31 pm
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Why do so many people on here argue with TJ?

Because otherwise he'd probably argue with himself, and nobody wants to see that.

What do you mean "probably", did you not mean to say definitely.

I for one would happily pay half my licence fee to see him argue with himself.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:32 pm
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cynic-al
why am i not suprised by your loyalty to him........ffs 🙄

feel free to pull me apart, i will reply later..


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:36 pm
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.......would happily pay half my licence fee

😕 What licence fee ? And why do you only want to pay half of it ? .............who's going to pay the other half ?


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:38 pm
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No problem with him here. Not physically met him but a very nice bloke in my experience.

I once posted for advice under my previous persona. He replied and was a thoroughly sterling chap.

I don't think that he is argumentative for arguments sake, just believes in putting his point of view forward, which after all is what a forum is for.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:40 pm
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ton, I rib him more than most and have p***ed him off many times, so I have no idea what you are on about.

I guess you could prove your point or disprove mine, rather than undermine it...


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:40 pm
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Why do so many people on here argue with TJ?

Because it's fun!

Besides, as mentioned above, he's worth arguing with, as he's actually quite an intelligent chap. He's almost always wrong, of course.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:45 pm
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He's slightly lower on the Throw An Insult Scale than RB and has therefore avoided a ban. I blame the NHS


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:49 pm
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Why am I reminded of the "argument" sketch from Monty Python? 😉

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Why do you think people use STW? I came here for an argument...


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:52 pm
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No you didn't


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 5:53 pm
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Thats just contradiction


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:15 pm
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No it isn't.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:18 pm
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Oh yes it is


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:20 pm
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It is not.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:22 pm
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Agueing is an exchange of mutually incompatible views backed up by facts - it is not mere contradiction


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:23 pm
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No it isn't


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:24 pm
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Yes it is!


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:26 pm
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Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:28 pm
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One basic (inarguable) truth is that noone argues with the c**t with the most nuclear weapons.

I'm off to enrich some uranium 🙂


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:32 pm
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I'm off to enrich some uranium

No you're not.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:33 pm
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Awright, I'm gonna make a wee cup of tea first, but the weapons of mass destruction ARE on the 'to-do' list later. Honest.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 6:38 pm
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The reason people argue with him is that he is even less capable of letting it lie than I am. TerminatorJeremy absolutely WILL NOT STOP!

I agree with him on a lot of things but sometimes he's a bit impractical. On politics he is a diehard left winger which is frequently not a pragmatic stance, in my experience. Despite agreeing in theory. I'm not sure TJ appreciates the practical considerations of running a country, say.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 7:23 pm
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I get the impression I'm debating with TJ, hope he feels the same.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 8:27 pm
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Despite agreeing in theory. I'm not sure TJ appreciates the practical considerations of running a country, say.

Indeed - I don't agree that much with some of his theories, though I'm sure his heart is in the right place which is preferable to most paid politicians. But it's the latter point which puts me off him as a benign dictator 😉


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 8:48 pm
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He he he

I am no diehard left winger. I only appear like that against the tories on here.

More of a liberal and deffo more of a green

aracer - you know the country would be a better place if I was in change. Vote TJ for real ale, hardtails with gears and trolls free on the NHS


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 8:51 pm
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I am no diehard left winger. I only appear like that against the tories on here.

I couldn't agree more.

........and they make me appear to be an ultra-leftist...........despite the fact that I am anti-trot leftist.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 9:07 pm
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We should recruit some hard lefties to STW. Now that would be funny.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 9:36 pm
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A hard lefty
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Posted : 10/02/2010 9:47 pm
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cynical, i thought you and teej where riding buddies???
if i was wrong, accept my apologies. 😳


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 10:12 pm
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We do know each other offline Ton but Al is an honest chap and does not always see eye to eye with me. He would have no hesitation in saying I was wrong if he thought I was.


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 10:29 pm
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I usually find myself on the same side as TeeJ - he's one of the good guys 🙂


 
Posted : 10/02/2010 10:47 pm
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He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.


 
Posted : 11/02/2010 8:12 am
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It's not my imagination then.... I must have been living in a cosy bubble in my part of the country as I was truly beginning to think that tories were just a horrible dream from my youth... then I came here and could almost perceptably FEEL the naive pompous swagger..


 
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