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how does that work?

Getting balloon gas and I normally tip the tank into the gap behind the front seats of the mighty Grand C max.

Just seen a lady in her gym gear with biceps no bigger than my wrist pick the tank up and put it in the boot of her car.

She picked it up like it was a fake plastic tank.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:21 am
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She's not strong.

You are weak.

Your strength has leaked out of the holes in your shoes and shorts.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:24 am
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Hers has more helium in it, so it's obviously lighter. Surprised it didn't float away.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:24 am
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Just seen a lady in her gym gear with biceps no bigger than my wrist pick the tank up and put it in the boot of her car.

Strength from the core? Lift properly with your body not your arms


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:24 am
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Super W/Kg FTP. 😉


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:25 am
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what do you actually do that makes you strong other than have *bulk*

Likely she is actually conditioned and strong rather than just bulky.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:27 am
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Sure she's not a Cyborg?

There was a documentary about them a few years back, they look just like us..


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:34 am
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sounds like the new instructor (army PTI) at the Boot Camp I go to.

Tiny....at a guess I'd say a 22/24 inch waist but loading the kit into her van she's throwing weights and sandbags about like confetti.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:40 am
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If anyone is interested the tank weighs about 37 kg.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:43 am
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Strength not necessarily proportional to size of muscles.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:46 am
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The only real answer is to challenge her to a jelly-wrestle (or baked beans if you both prefer) in a paddling pool

On watching the video we'll be able to judge the merits of the contestants for ourselves


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:48 am
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Your strength has leaked out of the holes in your crocs

FTFY Perchy.


 
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FTFY Perchy.

Unfortunately, that's not the case.  At least the holes in Crocs are supposed to be there.

Please don't make me find the picture of the homemade ventilated footwear or the shorts. Think of the kittens.

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/ive-been-inventing-again/


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:51 am
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If anyone is interested the tank weighs about 37 kg.

I'm far from muscly but can carry our 47kg cooker gas from the car OK.  it's more the size that is awkward.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:51 am
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Strength not necessarily proportional to size of muscles

Yeah, but he said "no muscles" -that's quite a phenomenon.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:52 am
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She picked it up like it was a fake plastic tank.

Does she live with a broken man? And has a green watering can?


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 11:55 am
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no muscles


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:00 pm
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^ Loving your work Stevet1


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:01 pm
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That's no nerves, skin too. I bet she had some skin at least. Otherwise thread would be slightly different.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:03 pm
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Correct lifting technique wins every time. I’ve seen tiny, skinny urchins squatting phenomenal weight and body builder types struggle with the same. Functional versus aesthetic innit

Unless it was this lady and then it must’ve been magic


 
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I’ve seen tiny, skinny urchins squatting phenomenal weight and body builder types struggle with the same. Functional versus aesthetic innit

Although, the only competitive body builder I know is insanely strong and his DL, BP and Squat are just off the charts (he is jacked up to the eyeballs and eats over 8000 calories a day).


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:11 pm
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She has an efficient trained CNS you however do not!  😉


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:14 pm
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37kg isn't that much. When I was 16 I could carry two bags of potatoes at once (25.2 kg bags) and I weighed less than 10st. It's all about technique.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:24 pm
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Skeletons always look so bloody happy.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:27 pm
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Skeletons always look so bloody happy.

Yep.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 12:49 pm
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Eh? Whose that?


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 1:00 pm
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"Just seen a lady in her gym gear with biceps no bigger than my wrist"

My wife fits that description and deadlifts a few times that weight.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 1:12 pm
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Eh? Whose that?

Davina McCall.....


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 1:31 pm
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That Davina pic has killed another part of my younger self


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 1:37 pm
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Where the tendons connect to the bones can have a considerable effect on translating the force provided by the muscles into effective strength.

No ****ing way is that Davina McCall!


 
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Whilst all the internet bench presser's are assembled.

The current wisdom is that high reps and low weights builds bulk, low reps and high weight builds strength.

Cycling is very low weight, very high reps, is the only reason we don't all look like Arnie down to metabolism due to longer exercise sections?


 
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Davina McCall…..

She was never even a real junkie.


 
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The current wisdom is that high reps and low weights builds bulk, low reps and high weight builds strength.

Not AIUI

Strength: 3-5 reps high weight

Bulk 8-10 reps a bit less weight

Endurance : lots and lots of reps much lower weight.


 
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Where the tendons connect to the bones can have a considerable effect on translating the force provided by the muscles into effective strength.

I'd agree with that. I remember some years ago having arm wrestles in the pub with my mates and we'd often find that A could beat B and B could beat C (so it would stand to reason that C was the weakest) but C could beat A – we put it down to the physiology of each person, arm lengths, connection points etc.


 
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She was never even a real junkie.

The best Jaqueline mcCafferty sketch made, just above the choux buns episode!


 
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I’ve seen tiny, skinny urchins squatting phenomenal weight and body builder types struggle with the same. Functional versus aesthetic innit

Yeah, muscles in the right place, and technique.

When I was younger I used to be into archery.  We used to get new members, big strapping blokes, wanting to try the heaviest bows we had.  They'd then completely fail to draw it, the club would hand it to me - a scrawny teenager probably 9 stone wet through - and I'd pop it straight to full draw.  Difference being, I'd been shooting for years.


 
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Not AIUI

Strength: 3-5 reps high weight

Bulk 8-10 reps a bit less weight

You are correct, although when a weight lifter talks about "high reps" they are actually talking about that 8-12 rep range. "High reps" does not mean hundreds or even tens of reps, and "low weight" will still be a significant amount of weight, just not close to their 1RM. Also most body builders will be pretty strong because, let's face it, big muscles will generally be able to generate a lot of force. Arnie, although he wasn't a strongman per-se, could deadlift over 300kg in his day, which is no mean feat.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 2:05 pm
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what do you actually do that makes you strong other than have *bulk*

Have short limbs.

Have tendons attached at "the right places"

Have long muscles, vs short ones.

Thick dense bones seem to go along with lots of the above and having "resilient" joints and tendons and so on.

All of that is rather fixed around about 9 months before you get started on the full fat milk.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 3:54 pm
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your tank was metric and her's was imperial?


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 4:31 pm
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Where the tendons connect to the bones can have a considerable effect on translating the force provided by the muscles into effective strength.

Isn't there a song about that?

Davina MacCall is nothing if not obsessive.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 4:39 pm
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For strength training, time under tension is key. Go and listen to Louis Simmons talk about it. Nobody knows more about strength training than him.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 4:44 pm
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Poor Davina looks terrible in that piccy!


 
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Time under tension and long rests in between and keeping well clear of going to failure.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 4:56 pm
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@twinw4ll, why keeping well clear of going to failure?


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 5:07 pm
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Dorian Yates was on the JRE last year and some of the stuff he talked about was fascinating. Like when he couldn't do the positive part of the rep anymore he'd get someone to get him into position. And hed only do the negative part until that was a total failure. Again, time under tension


 
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So basically do your squats slowly?

Or, on the bike, singlespeed?


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 5:28 pm
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(he is jacked up to the eyeballs and eats over 8000 calories a day).

Is being jacked enough though?

Surely he needs to be tanned and juicy too?


 
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Not necessarily slowly. Just, no rest at the top, keep it moving, and keep the set going for between 30 to 60 seconds. Rep count is ultimately immaterial. IIRC there is quite a bit of research highlighting that length of time as the most productive for bulk.

The above is typical strongman training BTW. On stuff like tyre flips or carry events, think about how long they go for. Lots of bulk works for them.

Single shot strength sports like olympic and powerlifting drop to sub 5 reps because they're not into bulk for the sake of bulk. Power to weight of the lifter is much more important.

Masses of overlap between the two though.

Going to failure generally is bad for recovery times. Without significantly increasing any strength or growth benefits. Extraordinarily useful for geared up lifters though, as their recovery abilities go through the roof hence can tolerate much more of that sort of thing. Short and sweet wins for natural lifters.


 
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Poor Davina looks terrible in that piccy!

I think you're mistaking thin with unhealthy. She's 50 and looks like she trains and diets well, or did I miss something? Anorexic that is not.


 
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Poor Davina looks terrible in that piccy!

I think you’re mistaking thin with unhealthy. She’s 50 and looks like she trains and diets well, or did I miss something? Anorexic that is not.

I would say she looks terrible in that picture. If that’s healthy looking then I never want to look healthy. She looks ill


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 7:01 pm
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Hence why my 90kg bulked up son was not able to lift as much as his 54kg female cousin* - quite a lesson for the 19yr old boyo

*married to powerlifting gym owner had nothing to do with it 🤔


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 7:22 pm
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Poor Davina looks terrible in that piccy!

Yeah, but still....


 
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Going to failure generally is bad for recovery times.

Thats interesting. So if I am trying to both lift and ride bikes I should keep it at 98% effort to save myself for riding.


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 8:01 pm
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Yeah, but still….

Jeez Perchy, she looks like Dot Cotton wi a six pack!


 
Posted : 06/09/2018 10:52 pm
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On the upside then, you could just drink the beer.


 
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